What's very telling is that from 1992 to 1996 the national debt rose 1.3 TRILLION dollars. From 1996 to 2004 is rose that same amount.
So Clinton raises the debt 1.3 trillion in 4 years and another 500 billion in his second term. From 2000 to present the debt was raised another 500 billion dollars.
So where is the 1 Trillion that Bush is responsible for?
That site shows estimates, not facts, for years after 1999. That's considerably out of date and doesn't include sweeping changes in tax lawas since then.
Don't take it personally, Wil, just because some people will always think of you as a trivial character. For that matter, don't take *anything* personally. Life's too short for that.
Bill Hanna was an amazing man. This comes from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bbshop/message/4774 from a listserv for America's oldest male singing society.
***
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:40:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Gary Stamm
Subject: [bbshop] Bill Hanna (1910-2001) A Barbershopper's Perspective
Most of you did not have the opportunity to personally know Bill Hanna, the
SPEBSQSA Honorary Life Member who passed away on Thursday, March 22. But
it's safe to say that he touched all of your lives through his "children":
Fred Flintstone, Yogi Bear, George Jetson, Huckleberry Hound, Scooby-Doo,
Tom and Jerry, and many, many more.
I had the priviledge of working for Mr. Hanna from 1977-1982, an experience
I would not trade for anything. I was director of the educational division
of Hanna-Barbera Productions. We used the classic studio characters to make
educational filmstrips and films for schools. I had the priviledge of
working with top notch artists and voice actors on these projects. You all
know the thrill of perfectly locking a chord and producing a couple of
overtones -- a real goose-bump producer. Well, directing a recording
session with the "human" voices of Fred Flintstone and Yogi Bear produced
even larger bumps for a guy in his 30s who had grown up with these icons.
But my six years at the studio had an additional benefit. During that time
I became well acquainted with Bill Hanna. It had been his idea to use the
characters in the classroom, and although this venture produced a very small
stream of revenue in comparison with the Saturday morning productions, his
personal interest in the project kept him in close contact with me. Mr.
Hanna was a tough business man. It was his role to keep projects on
schedule and on budget. It was not uncommon to pass his office and hear him
barking out orders to someone, or even chewing someone out. But, I learned
that these were always justified, and I also learned that he was generous
and warm to those who did their job well and truly cared about what they
were doing.
Mr. Hanna had a number of interests. He loved boating and had a beautiful
cruiser that he took out on the ocean as often as he could. He loved to
take several days and cruise to Baja California where he would fish and
trade with the local residents. He was also a very staunch supporter of the
Boy Scouts. He himself was an Eagle Scout and credited Scouting with much
of his early development. Like anyone who was faithful to him, Bill Hanna
never forgot Scouting and repaid the organization in many ways.
Mr. Hanna was also a singer. He loved to sing the songs from his childhood,
so when he was introduced to SPEBSQSA and barbershopping in the 1960s, he
became enamored with it. Although he was a member of the Reseda, California
Chapter for a few years, his very hectic work schedule did not permit him to
be an active member.
During my years at the studio, however, I was able to help bring a little
barbershop back to his ears and voice. Once, his staff staged an impromptu
birthday party and invited my quartet to sing Happy Birthday. Mr. Hanna was
not content with one song, nor with simply listening. He insisted on
pushing out our lead and singing his favorite song, "Sweet Sixteen." We
ended up singing far longer than planned. We were surprised when he invited
us to dinner. We were all escorted to one of Hollywood's finer restaurants
where we were regaled with stories of the early days of the studio and how
"The Flintstones" had evolved.
Perhaps the greatest barbershop experiences with Mr. Hanna, however,
occurred on his boat. Mr. Hanna belonged to the South Long Beach Yacht
Club. Every Christmas season the club would have a parade of boats in the
harbor. The boat owners would cover their vessels with lights and
decorations and cruise the harbor for an assembled "audience" and judges.
One year Mr. Hanna had the idea of adding some live entertainment. Many of
the boats would hook up a tape player to a loudspeaker and play Christmas
music. Mr. Hanna went them one better. He had my quartet on board, as well
as a professional actor by the name of Frank Welker. Frank was the voice of
Freddy in the "Scooby-Doo" cartoons, but is also a wonderful impressionist.
Frank and the quartet took turns in front of the microphone. We would sing
a carol and he would do an impression of George C. Scott as Patton, Cary
Grant or dozens of other. At the end of the parade, Mr. Hanna's boat was
awarded the prize as the most entertaining boat.
The other real treat was the Big Billfish Tournament. I mentioned that Mr.
Hanna was a great supporter of Boy Scouts. In 1981 the Los Angeles Boy
Scout Council approached Mr. Hanna with a fund raising idea. Mr. Hanna's
friends at the yacht club would donate boats for a three day marlin fishing
contest off the coast of Catalina Island. The Boy Scouts would find
companies or individuals to sponsor a fisherman for $1,000. Since the
boats, meals and other ammetities were donated by the boat owners the
sponsorships would be pure donations for Scouting. Each boat was to carry
four fisherman. This magic number sparked an idea with Mr. Hanna. He came
to me and asked if I could get a quartet to agree to make the trip if he
would sponsor it. I had no trouble recruiting three of my barbershop
buddies to take a three-day, all expenses paid vacation around beautiful
Catalina Island. We were able to make the trip two years in a row, before I
moved to Kenosha. Both years, five boats (20 fishermen) caught no fish --
but who cared? We had fun, food, drink and beautiful weather. At night,
all the boats would moor together and everyone would gather on one of the
boats for a party. We were the hit of these nights, performing, leading
sing-alongs, and, of course, having Mr. Hanna step in the quartet for a few
numbers, including "Sweet Sixteen".
I left the studio in 1982 and moved to Kenosha to begin another dream job --
working for SPEBSQSA. A few years later, I suggested considering Mr. Hanna
for Honorary Life Membership in the Society. Mr. Hanna had been very
supportive of the Society in the 60s and 70s. He hosted Far Western
District board meetings on his boat and contributed money to buy a series of
administrative training films for the Society. He also had a long
background in music. He dabbled with background music for his first job in
the animation industry at the Harman-Ising Studio. (How foreshadowing that
he was at Harman-Ising even before he was a harmonizer.) Mr. Hanna also
wrote the lyrics for many of the Hanna-Barbera cartoon shows, such as the
"Flintstones", "Yogi Bear" and others. In the 1960s the studio produced a
number of phonograph records. One of these was the story of how Fred
Flintstone put together a quartet to go to the national contest. Also, a
barbershop quartet appeared in the animated film, "Charlotte's Web".
Although the original story did not contain a foursome, Mr. Hanna thought
that the county fair scene deserved one. The committee liked the idea of
honoring Mr. Hanna and the Society Board approved. Mr. Hanna was delighted
at this accolade, and he and his wonderful wife Vi were forever grateful for
the honor bestowed on him by SPEBSQSA.
Just this past February two barbershoppers, Jim Graham who had served on the
Honorary Member Committee and Larry Gilhousen of the Harmony Foundation
staff, arranged to have a Singing Valentine delivered to Mr. and Mrs. Hanna.
Mutual Fun quartet made the call. Even though Mr. Hanna was suffering from
late stages of Alzheimer, he was smiling and attentive to the music. When
the quartet asked if he would like to sing one with them, Mr. Hanna's son
quickly explained that Mr. Hanna really was incapable. At that point Mr.
Hanna rose, gently pushed his son aside and began a clear rendition of
"Sweet Sixteen" as the quartet joined right in.
The Hannas made several generous contributions to Harmony Foundation over
the past 10 years. Last year the Foundation Trustees voted to name the
SingAmerica Endowment Fund in Mr. Hanna's honor. Hopefully, the
SingAmerica, SingCanada-Bill Hanna Endowment Fund will grow and help keep
singing alive in our culture far into the future. He would have loved that.
For those of you who wish to honor a very fine Barbershopper, a truly great
humanitarian, and a man who made us laugh at animals, cavemen and future
space-dwellers, please join me in making a contribution to Harmony
Foundation (6315 Harmony Lane, Kenosha, WI 53143 or through our website
www.harmonyfoundation.org). The first $250 will go to place Bill Hanna's
name on the Keep a Melody Ringing Memorial which hangs in Harmony Hall. The
rest will be placed in SingAmerica, SingCanada-Bill Hanna Endowment Fund so
that future generations can enjoy their voices singing, "Sweet Sixteen" and
perhaps hear an echo from the heavens.
Sing... for life,
Gary Stamm, Executive Director
Harmony Foundation
6315 Harmony Lane, Kenosha, WI 53143
I'm a 20-year-old college student who's never had a credit card. I do have some relatively small loan to pay off when I get out of college. Is it really worth it to get a credit card now when I don't have interest in using it?
As a side note, Penn State uses student ID numbers interchangably with social security numbers. This means that fellow students' social security numbers are easy to come by. Do other colleges follow this dangerous practice?
Nowadays, there are less people with musical talent, but there are still thousands more that still do it today for fun. Easily harmonizable melodies that all ages enjoy, and this is alive and well! Why use Napster when these are online legally?:)
This AC beat me to it. I'm on an ethernet college campus connection and my 90 MB download is going nowhere fast./., couldn't you at least advertise a link to screen shots?
Exactly. If the computers used in voting booths use open-sourced programs and hard copies of the votes are printed out at the same time, then we have a pretty trustworthy system. Open source is necessary to ensure the voting procedure is reliable, and hard copies of the votes as a backup is imperative - you never know when the power could go out.
I think one of the biggest problems with "paper and pencil" ballots is that it's easy to submit an invalid ballot. With an electronic ballot, there would be zero ballots with no holes or more than one hole punched.
For the die-hards, there probably should still be a "None of the above" option. But, with computer checking, invalid forms won't be what decides elections.
I'm not sure why they say it's still a toss-up on tv, but here are the numbers for Florida at 2:07am ET:
2,743,162 for Gore
2,799,648 for Bush
97% precincts reporting
3% left means that there are 171,000 votes left. Since the difference is 33% of that, the remaining votes would have to be 66% for Gore and 33% for Bush in order for Gore to tie - Gore would need even more to win.
Since Gore has to get Florida to win, and since there's pretty much no way he'll have such a win in the last 3%, he loses.
Slashdot Mirror
It is self-hosted and highly responsive. It runs on Java. I'm interested in finding beta testers who are also located in the US.
Exactly. Hold candidates accountable. If candidates don't answer all your questions, don't vote for them.
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/taxes /fed-debt.html
y ears shows that the total public debt increased from 5,674,178,209,886.86 on 09/29/2000 to 6,783,231,062,743.62 on 09/30/2003.
What's very telling is that from 1992 to 1996 the national debt rose 1.3 TRILLION dollars. From 1996 to 2004 is rose that same amount.
So Clinton raises the debt 1.3 trillion in 4 years and another 500 billion in his second term. From 2000 to present the debt was raised another 500 billion dollars.
So where is the 1 Trillion that Bush is responsible for?
That site shows estimates, not facts, for years after 1999. That's considerably out of date and doesn't include sweeping changes in tax lawas since then.
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm#
The Sub $10k jobs are a plenty in the New England area
You mean Sub $100k jobs?!
Don't take it personally, Wil, just because some people will always think of you as a trivial character. For that matter, don't take *anything* personally. Life's too short for that.
For some reason, Babel Fish translates "unterbrechungsfrei" as "noly-break". A much better translation would be "free of interruption".
I know many people on gnutella, irc, kazaa and more who are lamers with 1.4Mhz machines
They *are* lamers... 1.4MHz??
www.nyctourist.com, offering tours of the top of the WTC towers, has incredible pictures from the top. The best ones are here:
http://www.nyctourist.com/wtc_new5.htm
It's very slow though... I'll try and see if I can get a mirror up - maybe someone else can too?
You forgot this one, complete with JPEGs, MPEGs, and phone numbers: http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/cmrr/lhmedia/
A couple of days ago, Reuters claimed that Bush invented a new word.
Then and now, however, one could/can see that google returns 49 uses of the word "hispanically".
A life?
(4:22am as I post this...)
Bill Hanna was an amazing man. This comes from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bbshop/message/4774 from a listserv for America's oldest male singing society.
***
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:40:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Gary Stamm
Subject: [bbshop] Bill Hanna (1910-2001) A Barbershopper's Perspective
Most of you did not have the opportunity to personally know Bill Hanna, the
SPEBSQSA Honorary Life Member who passed away on Thursday, March 22. But
it's safe to say that he touched all of your lives through his "children":
Fred Flintstone, Yogi Bear, George Jetson, Huckleberry Hound, Scooby-Doo,
Tom and Jerry, and many, many more.
I had the priviledge of working for Mr. Hanna from 1977-1982, an experience
I would not trade for anything. I was director of the educational division
of Hanna-Barbera Productions. We used the classic studio characters to make
educational filmstrips and films for schools. I had the priviledge of
working with top notch artists and voice actors on these projects. You all
know the thrill of perfectly locking a chord and producing a couple of
overtones -- a real goose-bump producer. Well, directing a recording
session with the "human" voices of Fred Flintstone and Yogi Bear produced
even larger bumps for a guy in his 30s who had grown up with these icons.
But my six years at the studio had an additional benefit. During that time
I became well acquainted with Bill Hanna. It had been his idea to use the
characters in the classroom, and although this venture produced a very small
stream of revenue in comparison with the Saturday morning productions, his
personal interest in the project kept him in close contact with me. Mr.
Hanna was a tough business man. It was his role to keep projects on
schedule and on budget. It was not uncommon to pass his office and hear him
barking out orders to someone, or even chewing someone out. But, I learned
that these were always justified, and I also learned that he was generous
and warm to those who did their job well and truly cared about what they
were doing.
Mr. Hanna had a number of interests. He loved boating and had a beautiful
cruiser that he took out on the ocean as often as he could. He loved to
take several days and cruise to Baja California where he would fish and
trade with the local residents. He was also a very staunch supporter of the
Boy Scouts. He himself was an Eagle Scout and credited Scouting with much
of his early development. Like anyone who was faithful to him, Bill Hanna
never forgot Scouting and repaid the organization in many ways.
Mr. Hanna was also a singer. He loved to sing the songs from his childhood,
so when he was introduced to SPEBSQSA and barbershopping in the 1960s, he
became enamored with it. Although he was a member of the Reseda, California
Chapter for a few years, his very hectic work schedule did not permit him to
be an active member.
During my years at the studio, however, I was able to help bring a little
barbershop back to his ears and voice. Once, his staff staged an impromptu
birthday party and invited my quartet to sing Happy Birthday. Mr. Hanna was
not content with one song, nor with simply listening. He insisted on
pushing out our lead and singing his favorite song, "Sweet Sixteen." We
ended up singing far longer than planned. We were surprised when he invited
us to dinner. We were all escorted to one of Hollywood's finer restaurants
where we were regaled with stories of the early days of the studio and how
"The Flintstones" had evolved.
Perhaps the greatest barbershop experiences with Mr. Hanna, however,
occurred on his boat. Mr. Hanna belonged to the South Long Beach Yacht
Club. Every Christmas season the club would have a parade of boats in the
harbor. The boat owners would cover their vessels with lights and
decorations and cruise the harbor for an assembled "audience" and judges.
One year Mr. Hanna had the idea of adding some live entertainment. Many of
the boats would hook up a tape player to a loudspeaker and play Christmas
music. Mr. Hanna went them one better. He had my quartet on board, as well
as a professional actor by the name of Frank Welker. Frank was the voice of
Freddy in the "Scooby-Doo" cartoons, but is also a wonderful impressionist.
Frank and the quartet took turns in front of the microphone. We would sing
a carol and he would do an impression of George C. Scott as Patton, Cary
Grant or dozens of other. At the end of the parade, Mr. Hanna's boat was
awarded the prize as the most entertaining boat.
The other real treat was the Big Billfish Tournament. I mentioned that Mr.
Hanna was a great supporter of Boy Scouts. In 1981 the Los Angeles Boy
Scout Council approached Mr. Hanna with a fund raising idea. Mr. Hanna's
friends at the yacht club would donate boats for a three day marlin fishing
contest off the coast of Catalina Island. The Boy Scouts would find
companies or individuals to sponsor a fisherman for $1,000. Since the
boats, meals and other ammetities were donated by the boat owners the
sponsorships would be pure donations for Scouting. Each boat was to carry
four fisherman. This magic number sparked an idea with Mr. Hanna. He came
to me and asked if I could get a quartet to agree to make the trip if he
would sponsor it. I had no trouble recruiting three of my barbershop
buddies to take a three-day, all expenses paid vacation around beautiful
Catalina Island. We were able to make the trip two years in a row, before I
moved to Kenosha. Both years, five boats (20 fishermen) caught no fish --
but who cared? We had fun, food, drink and beautiful weather. At night,
all the boats would moor together and everyone would gather on one of the
boats for a party. We were the hit of these nights, performing, leading
sing-alongs, and, of course, having Mr. Hanna step in the quartet for a few
numbers, including "Sweet Sixteen".
I left the studio in 1982 and moved to Kenosha to begin another dream job --
working for SPEBSQSA. A few years later, I suggested considering Mr. Hanna
for Honorary Life Membership in the Society. Mr. Hanna had been very
supportive of the Society in the 60s and 70s. He hosted Far Western
District board meetings on his boat and contributed money to buy a series of
administrative training films for the Society. He also had a long
background in music. He dabbled with background music for his first job in
the animation industry at the Harman-Ising Studio. (How foreshadowing that
he was at Harman-Ising even before he was a harmonizer.) Mr. Hanna also
wrote the lyrics for many of the Hanna-Barbera cartoon shows, such as the
"Flintstones", "Yogi Bear" and others. In the 1960s the studio produced a
number of phonograph records. One of these was the story of how Fred
Flintstone put together a quartet to go to the national contest. Also, a
barbershop quartet appeared in the animated film, "Charlotte's Web".
Although the original story did not contain a foursome, Mr. Hanna thought
that the county fair scene deserved one. The committee liked the idea of
honoring Mr. Hanna and the Society Board approved. Mr. Hanna was delighted
at this accolade, and he and his wonderful wife Vi were forever grateful for
the honor bestowed on him by SPEBSQSA.
Just this past February two barbershoppers, Jim Graham who had served on the
Honorary Member Committee and Larry Gilhousen of the Harmony Foundation
staff, arranged to have a Singing Valentine delivered to Mr. and Mrs. Hanna.
Mutual Fun quartet made the call. Even though Mr. Hanna was suffering from
late stages of Alzheimer, he was smiling and attentive to the music. When
the quartet asked if he would like to sing one with them, Mr. Hanna's son
quickly explained that Mr. Hanna really was incapable. At that point Mr.
Hanna rose, gently pushed his son aside and began a clear rendition of
"Sweet Sixteen" as the quartet joined right in.
The Hannas made several generous contributions to Harmony Foundation over
the past 10 years. Last year the Foundation Trustees voted to name the
SingAmerica Endowment Fund in Mr. Hanna's honor. Hopefully, the
SingAmerica, SingCanada-Bill Hanna Endowment Fund will grow and help keep
singing alive in our culture far into the future. He would have loved that.
For those of you who wish to honor a very fine Barbershopper, a truly great
humanitarian, and a man who made us laugh at animals, cavemen and future
space-dwellers, please join me in making a contribution to Harmony
Foundation (6315 Harmony Lane, Kenosha, WI 53143 or through our website
www.harmonyfoundation.org). The first $250 will go to place Bill Hanna's
name on the Keep a Melody Ringing Memorial which hangs in Harmony Hall. The
rest will be placed in SingAmerica, SingCanada-Bill Hanna Endowment Fund so
that future generations can enjoy their voices singing, "Sweet Sixteen" and
perhaps hear an echo from the heavens.
Sing... for life,
Gary Stamm, Executive Director
Harmony Foundation
6315 Harmony Lane, Kenosha, WI 53143
Nerdy high-school students talking about killing jock classmates shouldn't be suspended, expelled, or impisoned.
What about Jock classmates talking about killing nerdy high-school students? What if you're the nerdy high-school student?
Hi - I just wanted to say thanks for your response. That's quite an experience you had.
There are countless other activities you can get into that don't need electrisity
What to do, what to do... How about singing? Or playing an instrument?
Also, there are endless sports you can play, and you'll be exercising in the process!
All of these are great fun with other people.
...cover something like over a mile in length: http://www.mooreshire.com/psusteam/
Most schools seem to have a policy that if you don't like using your SSN, they'll generate a number for you to use instead.
Actually, Penn State can do this, but not without some hassle.
I'm a 20-year-old college student who's never had a credit card. I do have some relatively small loan to pay off when I get out of college. Is it really worth it to get a credit card now when I don't have interest in using it?
As a side note, Penn State uses student ID numbers interchangably with social security numbers. This means that fellow students' social security numbers are easy to come by. Do other colleges follow this dangerous practice?
That should be "fewer people", not less. Sorry!
Nowadays, there are less people with musical talent, but there are still thousands more that still do it today for fun. Easily harmonizable melodies that all ages enjoy, and this is alive and well! Why use Napster when these are online legally? :)
This AC beat me to it. I'm on an ethernet college campus connection and my 90 MB download is going nowhere fast. /., couldn't you at least advertise a link to screen shots?
Not every computer needs to be on the net guys!
Exactly. If the computers used in voting booths use open-sourced programs and hard copies of the votes are printed out at the same time, then we have a pretty trustworthy system. Open source is necessary to ensure the voting procedure is reliable, and hard copies of the votes as a backup is imperative - you never know when the power could go out.
I think one of the biggest problems with "paper and pencil" ballots is that it's easy to submit an invalid ballot. With an electronic ballot, there would be zero ballots with no holes or more than one hole punched.
For the die-hards, there probably should still be a "None of the above" option. But, with computer checking, invalid forms won't be what decides elections.
I'm not sure why they say it's still a toss-up on tv, but here are the numbers for Florida at 2:07am ET:
2,743,162 for Gore
2,799,648 for Bush
97% precincts reporting
3% left means that there are 171,000 votes left. Since the difference is 33% of that, the remaining votes would have to be 66% for Gore and 33% for Bush in order for Gore to tie - Gore would need even more to win.
Since Gore has to get Florida to win, and since there's pretty much no way he'll have such a win in the last 3%, he loses.