spending an extra minute to setup my laptop EVERY TIME I want to use it to work the way I want to (and most other people want to).
The point is...Apple sucks, they don't let you do things your way, they make you do things their way. Besides, most Mac fanatics are fags, and I wouldn't really want to be associated with them.
Make movies worth seeing and not these overhyped pieces of garbage like the last two star wars have been. In most cases a movie CAN wait, I've got better things to do
I agree with all of your points except for this one.
Obviously, everybody will agree that the quality of special effects has gotten a lot better over the years. As for the storyline, when was the last time you saw a Star Wars movie before the new episodes came out? When you were 10, a teen-ager, or in your early twenties? These movies are still made for kids and you're bound to be disappointed. If you want a grown-up sci-fi go see something a little darker like The Matrix (under-hyped if anything) or Armageddon (I don't know, I just saw it the other night...on DVD:)
Well, obviously you cared, now didn't you? And if nobody cares what I say than nobody cares what you say, and nobody cares what anybody says, so why don't we all just not say anything?
And it wasn't just the word FUCK, it was the whole immature humor thing, combined with the immediate reliance on cursing to get another point acrossed.
Do I care what you think? No. Do I want to make a point that you don't need to be immature to make a point? Yes. Are you fucking thick? Yes. Thank you.
Yes, if you want to be perceived as an immature little boy for the rest of your life:)
Yes. I'm a 13 year old with a five-digit UID.
Fuck off, newbie.
Oh, your wit is sooo charming. I didn't catch the UID, I just used the obvious evidence to come to that conclusion. You must think I'm a newbie because I didn't laugh at your low-brow attempt at humor. The 'F' word is your best friend isn't it? Always resort to it in an argument don't you? Well, that'll get you far in life, what are you a 'Refuse Engineer'?
Now, run along and post more things about body parts...really the humor lasts forever!
OpenOffice only has to run well enough and do enough.
Sure, but compare that to MSOffice (which, as you admitted, does more) which runs on Windows which has more programs (each of which does more than their *nix counterparts), and has good desktop performance and hardware support with something like Star/Open Office (which does less) running on *nix which has less hardware support, less programs for your average user, and crappy desktop performance.
I'm not sure which one most business users are going to choose.
Try PostgreSQL instead.
Between SQL Server and PostreSQL, which do you think a small business owner with limited knowledge of computers is going to be able to handle using? Does PostreSQL even have a GUI front-end?
Which do you think has more bells and whistles to make programmer's lives easier? Does PostgreSQL have numerous Wizards to help setup mundane things like backups and schedule them, or cleaning up indexes and temp tables? No, you have to hand-code everything in PostgreSQL. However, I also want the flexibility of hand-coding later when I need it (which SQL Server has through scripting and DTS). As a SysAdmin, I don't want to spend my day figuring out syntax to get the job done, I want the computer to do what I want NOW, not after I lookup the right commands! I'm the master and the computer is my slave, not the other way around.
...Windows is no longer a necessity to nearly the same degree that it used to be.
For servers it was never a necessity. Until the Linux desktop can give me the same performance as Windows (i.e. I can drag a window and it actually moves in real-time...I click an icon and the program opens right up...I can go out and buy hardware, plug it in and have the OS recognize it...) Windows is still a necessity.
Please explain how you can install MS Office in that amount of time. Pointing at a file on the network (or a cd) and running a command that says 'install this' is pretty much the fastest way to install anything.
Okay, well I didn't say anything about the amount of time to install but, greatness takes time:) Do you think that opening the command line, finding the path of the installer, and KNOWING the command line to use is faster for the average user than Insert CD...(AutoRun)...Following onscreen instructions? Which do you think is faster for most desktop users? Hmmm?
Furthermore, have you ever heard of SMS Server for Microsoft networks? I guess not. It allows you (as an Admin) to configure installation packages that must be available to users of particular groups (any group). When a user of that group logs onto any machine, that machine checks the SMS Server to make sure that it has the package, if not installs it, and if the package is up to date. An install script can do the same thing. That certainly sounds like less than one command (for the end user) to me.
And I honestly have no idea how you 'maintain' office software.
I am talking about patches (yes it can auto-update, can Puckered-Starfish/Open-Office do that?). Can you roll an update out to hundreds of machines simultaneously? If so, is there a point-n-click way to configure which packages get installed without building your own program? (No)
Of course in all of this you never mentioned anything about any of the other points in my argument. The fact that the very system that Star/OpenOffice is built upon is the crappiest GUI known to man-kind must make it run sooo much better right? For a little experiment, try this: Highlight a section of a spreadsheet in Staroffice, Copy it to the clipboard, open up the word processor, Paste. Next open up any plain-text editor, Paste. Next open up any Email program, Paste. Do the same in Office and compare the results.
Believe me, there's no competition from Star/Open-office...you get what you pay for.
Now we're killing the last Windows desktops, putting Lindows-OS in their place.
That's gonna work really well until the rest of the world moves to the next version of Office.
There is a huge fear of change, and this works in Windows' favor.
And rightly so. Linux cannot, I repeat cannot currently outperform Windows on the desktop. So, stop lying.
But there is no doubt that open software is better built and cheaper to run.
Okay, so you're a troll (oh wait, pro-linux posts with nothing to back them up don't count as trolls here on/.). Yeah, Open Office runs WAY better, can do more, is easier to install and maintain than MS Office (not). MYSQL is MUCH better (and easier to work with) than DB2, Oracle, or SQL Server (not). What does your office actually do? Is it a call center? Is it a server farm? Because that makes all the difference.
Changing costs something. But there is no doubt about the TCO of Linux (and its applications) being lower.
Hmm, well with lower costs, you also get less ability to keep up with the rest of the world. You can't do as much with Linux because not as many Hardware Vendors make drivers for Linux, the GUI and video performance suck compared to Windows (don't even step!), and the software is atrocious (there's no common widget-set that every developer uses like there is on Windows, which is why Windows software performs better and is easier to use and develop!)
So basically, give us all a break and stop lying just to whore karma.
Oh yeah, and I know that this is being modded as 'Troll' or 'Flamebait' when a similar pro-linux post will be 'Interesting'. Well, go ahead, prove me right:)
I don't even get a Newspaper anymore. Why should I pay for delivery when I can use the Web? Personally, I hope the same thing happens to all dead-tree pubs...think of the savings!
Besides, Perl is an ugly hack of a language anyway.
A program is just basically a representation of a mathematical algorithm run by a combined set of logic circuits and electricity, and an algorithm is just a mathematical equation. Does one "discover" Mathematical equations? Not bloddy likely!
So, if I ask you to create a program for me that does x, y, and z then it will take no effort on your part because all of the mathematical equations going into it are already invented? Do you think that all the people at a software development company besides the programmers (Testers, Managers, Human Resources, Executives, etc.) serve no function in getting a product out the door?
I believe that we are discovering algorithms all the time and that we shouldn't be afraid to share them with each other. That being said, the cracking scene IS taking money away from the programmers, which only hurts the community.
These two statements are conflicting, and you just answered your own question. Giving away all of the effort that it took me to discover an algorithm is the same as somebody cracking it. The company basically has no way to make money on it. Now, you're probably going to say "By selling services, just like Richard Stallman says!" but that's bullshit because it's double the work and half the money if I have to discover the algorithm, give it away, build a service, and then hope people subscribe to it (and hope that another company doesn't just come out with the same service).
But I don't think it should be paying money for some closed algorithm. I think it should be paying money to the programmer to find an algorithm for us to use and explore. That way, everyone could see the program and use it in any way they want. If I buy a car, I'm free to take it apart and fiddle with it all I want right? Why not make that the same with computers and software?
Once again, how could the programmer make money if he gives it away (without doing EXTRA work to build a service to tie the algorithm into)?
From the Fortune Article: Companies like Sun, HP, and IBM could derail Linux if they co-opt it--that is, modify it enough so that their versions run well only on their own hardware systems. That is exactly what Sun executives plan to do. They believe the profit motive will prove too strong for IBM, HP, or anyone else to resist making such a play either. "The reality is that profit-making companies like to get paid," Sun's Schwartz says.
And you thought they were being nice...
Rule #404: Open Sourcers must always be positive!
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...it is interesting that IBM, who often claims to be a defender of Open Source Software, would be so negative.
It's interesting that you think that if you're a proponent of Open Source, you can't be negative about something, just because it's also Open Source. Otherwise, how would things that are broken get fixed!?
and just switch hard-drives if you don't want to have Dual Boot. Why go thru all the trouble of setting up Winex when you could just use a real version of Windows that you probably already have lying around somewhere?
AntiAdBlocker allows the internet to keep running even with scumbags like yourself surfing the web and stealing from webmasters. Shame on you.
It's not stealing just because you say so. There has to be a law against it for it to be stealing. I happen to think that people who use popup ads are stealing from me the time it takes to get rid of those ads.
Hogwash. Internet ads are like TV commercials. You watch the TV channel for free and as a condition, they have commercials. It's not unsolicited like a telemarketer. It's an agreement that you watch TV or the internet at a reduced cost if you view the ads.
I've signed no such agreement, therefore I either flip channels during commercials, or put the TV on mute and do something else. If it's allright for them to turn my TV Volume up 2 decibals when a commercial comes on, it's allright for me to not watch them:)
The notion that YOU are being inconvenienced for getting something for FREE is stupid.
Actually, I'm not inconvenienced because I just block the ads silly:)
Internet ads have become more bold because of people like yourself blocking ads and thinking that sites shouldn't have ads.
As a person "like that" I have to say that I don't think sites *shouldn't have* ads at all, they shouldn't have ads that are moving animations in the middle of a paragraph I'm trying to read. It's annoying to try to read something when there is a big block of blinking, whizzing advertising space trying to get your attention.
Shame on YOU for stealing from webmasters. I can't wait till AntiAdBlocker is on every site on the web so scumbags like yourself no longer get a free ride and can't steal from webmasters.
Hmmm, well I hope that people have to deal directly with YOU because then I can rest assured that nobody will buy AntiAdBlocker (from the looks of your extremely unprofessional attitude:)
It has a government which respects free speech yet tries to persuade postal workers to spy on people as they delivered their mail
Anyone have any idea what this person is talking about here?
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Isn't it true that a reporter doesn't have to reveal their sources? Why does the person publishing the benchmark have to be the one who agreed upon initial install? I think I'd like to try this just to mess with MSFT.
The latest version of Norton Ghost makes a boot floppy that you use so you can ghost your hard drive...alas, my laptop lacks one and I haven't been able to.
I'm sure there's some way to do it, but if I wanted to jump thru hoops I would be using Linux:)
They're letting other companies run their own servers that will be inter-operable with the rest of the AIM network, if i understand it correctly.
This is great, and now I think we all see the reason why they didn't want interoperability in the first place...it puts more strain on their servers! This solves everyones problem, unless its some sick plan to distribute crappy server software that will blow up competing company's systems!
I wonder if they're providing binaries, source, or specs for the server software?
Slashdot Mirror
Or...
The point is...Apple sucks, they don't let you do things your way, they make you do things their way. Besides, most Mac fanatics are fags, and I wouldn't really want to be associated with them.
I don't know how good they are but check out Noble Systems.
I agree with all of your points except for this one.
Obviously, everybody will agree that the quality of special effects has gotten a lot better over the years. As for the storyline, when was the last time you saw a Star Wars movie before the new episodes came out? When you were 10, a teen-ager, or in your early twenties? These movies are still made for kids and you're bound to be disappointed. If you want a grown-up sci-fi go see something a little darker like The Matrix (under-hyped if anything) or Armageddon (I don't know, I just saw it the other night...on DVD :)
Well, that's all I've got to say about that.
If not...why does it exist? Why not just get the Blender sources and add what you want into it?
And it wasn't just the word FUCK, it was the whole immature humor thing, combined with the immediate reliance on cursing to get another point acrossed.
Do I care what you think? No. Do I want to make a point that you don't need to be immature to make a point? Yes. Are you fucking thick? Yes. Thank you.
Yes, if you want to be perceived as an immature little boy for the rest of your life :)
Yes. I'm a 13 year old with a five-digit UID.Fuck off, newbie.
Oh, your wit is sooo charming. I didn't catch the UID, I just used the obvious evidence to come to that conclusion. You must think I'm a newbie because I didn't laugh at your low-brow attempt at humor. The 'F' word is your best friend isn't it? Always resort to it in an argument don't you? Well, that'll get you far in life, what are you a 'Refuse Engineer'?
Now, run along and post more things about body parts...really the humor lasts forever!
You're disgusting. You know you don't have to be obnoxious to make a point. What'r you 13 years old?
Sure, but compare that to MSOffice (which, as you admitted, does more) which runs on Windows which has more programs (each of which does more than their *nix counterparts), and has good desktop performance and hardware support with something like Star/Open Office (which does less) running on *nix which has less hardware support, less programs for your average user, and crappy desktop performance.
I'm not sure which one most business users are going to choose.
Try PostgreSQL instead.Between SQL Server and PostreSQL, which do you think a small business owner with limited knowledge of computers is going to be able to handle using? Does PostreSQL even have a GUI front-end?
Which do you think has more bells and whistles to make programmer's lives easier? Does PostgreSQL have numerous Wizards to help setup mundane things like backups and schedule them, or cleaning up indexes and temp tables? No, you have to hand-code everything in PostgreSQL. However, I also want the flexibility of hand-coding later when I need it (which SQL Server has through scripting and DTS). As a SysAdmin, I don't want to spend my day figuring out syntax to get the job done, I want the computer to do what I want NOW, not after I lookup the right commands! I'm the master and the computer is my slave, not the other way around.
For servers it was never a necessity. Until the Linux desktop can give me the same performance as Windows (i.e. I can drag a window and it actually moves in real-time...I click an icon and the program opens right up...I can go out and buy hardware, plug it in and have the OS recognize it...) Windows is still a necessity.
Okay, well I didn't say anything about the amount of time to install but, greatness takes time :) Do you think that opening the command line, finding the path of the installer, and KNOWING the command line to use is faster for the average user than Insert CD...(AutoRun)...Following onscreen instructions? Which do you think is faster for most desktop users? Hmmm?
Furthermore, have you ever heard of SMS Server for Microsoft networks? I guess not. It allows you (as an Admin) to configure installation packages that must be available to users of particular groups (any group). When a user of that group logs onto any machine, that machine checks the SMS Server to make sure that it has the package, if not installs it, and if the package is up to date. An install script can do the same thing. That certainly sounds like less than one command (for the end user) to me.
And I honestly have no idea how you 'maintain' office software.I am talking about patches (yes it can auto-update, can Puckered-Starfish/Open-Office do that?). Can you roll an update out to hundreds of machines simultaneously? If so, is there a point-n-click way to configure which packages get installed without building your own program? (No)
Of course in all of this you never mentioned anything about any of the other points in my argument. The fact that the very system that Star/OpenOffice is built upon is the crappiest GUI known to man-kind must make it run sooo much better right? For a little experiment, try this: Highlight a section of a spreadsheet in Staroffice, Copy it to the clipboard, open up the word processor, Paste. Next open up any plain-text editor, Paste. Next open up any Email program, Paste. Do the same in Office and compare the results.
Believe me, there's no competition from Star/Open-office...you get what you pay for.
Okay, I'll bite
Now we're killing the last Windows desktops, putting Lindows-OS in their place.That's gonna work really well until the rest of the world moves to the next version of Office.
There is a huge fear of change, and this works in Windows' favor.And rightly so. Linux cannot, I repeat cannot currently outperform Windows on the desktop. So, stop lying.
But there is no doubt that open software is better built and cheaper to run.Okay, so you're a troll (oh wait, pro-linux posts with nothing to back them up don't count as trolls here on /.). Yeah, Open Office runs WAY better, can do more, is easier to install and maintain than MS Office (not). MYSQL is MUCH better (and easier to work with) than DB2, Oracle, or SQL Server (not). What does your office actually do? Is it a call center? Is it a server farm? Because that makes all the difference.
Changing costs something. But there is no doubt about the TCO of Linux (and its applications) being lower.Hmm, well with lower costs, you also get less ability to keep up with the rest of the world. You can't do as much with Linux because not as many Hardware Vendors make drivers for Linux, the GUI and video performance suck compared to Windows (don't even step!), and the software is atrocious (there's no common widget-set that every developer uses like there is on Windows, which is why Windows software performs better and is easier to use and develop!)
So basically, give us all a break and stop lying just to whore karma.
Oh yeah, and I know that this is being modded as 'Troll' or 'Flamebait' when a similar pro-linux post will be 'Interesting'. Well, go ahead, prove me right :)
I don't even get a Newspaper anymore. Why should I pay for delivery when I can use the Web? Personally, I hope the same thing happens to all dead-tree pubs...think of the savings!
Besides, Perl is an ugly hack of a language anyway.
So, if I ask you to create a program for me that does x, y, and z then it will take no effort on your part because all of the mathematical equations going into it are already invented? Do you think that all the people at a software development company besides the programmers (Testers, Managers, Human Resources, Executives, etc.) serve no function in getting a product out the door?
I believe that we are discovering algorithms all the time and that we shouldn't be afraid to share them with each other. That being said, the cracking scene IS taking money away from the programmers, which only hurts the community.These two statements are conflicting, and you just answered your own question. Giving away all of the effort that it took me to discover an algorithm is the same as somebody cracking it. The company basically has no way to make money on it. Now, you're probably going to say "By selling services, just like Richard Stallman says!" but that's bullshit because it's double the work and half the money if I have to discover the algorithm, give it away, build a service, and then hope people subscribe to it (and hope that another company doesn't just come out with the same service).
But I don't think it should be paying money for some closed algorithm. I think it should be paying money to the programmer to find an algorithm for us to use and explore. That way, everyone could see the program and use it in any way they want. If I buy a car, I'm free to take it apart and fiddle with it all I want right? Why not make that the same with computers and software?Once again, how could the programmer make money if he gives it away (without doing EXTRA work to build a service to tie the algorithm into)?
And you thought they were being nice...
It's interesting that you think that if you're a proponent of Open Source, you can't be negative about something, just because it's also Open Source. Otherwise, how would things that are broken get fixed!?
...not the means to an end. The difference between me killing someone to save the world or to make myself a million dollars is huge.
and just switch hard-drives if you don't want to have Dual Boot. Why go thru all the trouble of setting up Winex when you could just use a real version of Windows that you probably already have lying around somewhere?
the internet to keep running even with scumbags like yourself surfing the
web and stealing from webmasters. Shame on you.
It's not stealing just because you say so. There has to be a law against it for it to be stealing. I happen to think that people who use popup ads are stealing from me the time it takes to get rid of those ads.
Hogwash. Internet ads are like TV commercials. You watch the TV channelfor free and as a condition, they have commercials. It's not unsolicited
like a telemarketer. It's an agreement that you watch TV or the internet at
a reduced cost if you view the ads.
I've signed no such agreement, therefore I either flip channels during commercials, or put the TV on mute and do something else. If it's allright for them to turn my TV Volume up 2 decibals when a commercial comes on, it's allright for me to not watch them :)
The notion that YOU are being inconvenienced for gettingsomething for FREE is stupid.
Actually, I'm not inconvenienced because I just block the ads silly :)
Internet ads have become more bold because of people like yourself blockingads and thinking that sites shouldn't have ads.
As a person "like that" I have to say that I don't think sites *shouldn't have* ads at all, they shouldn't have ads that are moving animations in the middle of a paragraph I'm trying to read. It's annoying to try to read something when there is a big block of blinking, whizzing advertising space trying to get your attention.
Shame on YOU for stealing from webmasters. I can't wait till AntiAdBlockeris on every site on the web so scumbags like yourself no longer get a free
ride and can't steal from webmasters.
Hmmm, well I hope that people have to deal directly with YOU because then I can rest assured that nobody will buy AntiAdBlocker (from the looks of your extremely unprofessional attitude :)
Just get one of the *numerous* add-in products for IE that work way better (in my personal experience) than the ones built-in to Opera and Mozilla.
See this post: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=38010&cid=4074 998 My favorite one is Panicware.com's Popup Stopper.
Find it at:
http://www.panicware.com/product_companion.htmlI haven't seen a popup window in 6 months :)
It has a government which respects free speech yet tries to persuade postal workers to spy on people as they delivered their mail
Anyone have any idea what this person is talking about here?
Isn't it true that a reporter doesn't have to reveal their sources? Why does the person publishing the benchmark have to be the one who agreed upon initial install? I think I'd like to try this just to mess with MSFT.
No, ***Nobody uses linux for anything but servers, so give it up***
The latest version of Norton Ghost makes a boot floppy that you use so you can ghost your hard drive...alas, my laptop lacks one and I haven't been able to.
:)
I'm sure there's some way to do it, but if I wanted to jump thru hoops I would be using Linux
why should it be called the AOL Instant Messenger network? Shouldn't we call it something else like the "General Instant Messenger" network?
They're letting other companies run their own servers that will be inter-operable with the rest of the AIM network, if i understand it correctly.
This is great, and now I think we all see the reason why they didn't want interoperability in the first place...it puts more strain on their servers! This solves everyones problem, unless its some sick plan to distribute crappy server software that will blow up competing company's systems!
I wonder if they're providing binaries, source, or specs for the server software?