From an X-chromosome perspective, it's more funny to read the war between the chauvinists and the white knights.
On a serious note, I'll add my two cents: Don't treat me like I'm your secretary, don't put me on a pedestal. Treat me like a normal cubmate, give me projects appropriate for my level of competency, and if I screw something up call me on it. Really, it's that simple.
I missed the NPR broadcast today, nor have I seen Gloria Allred's accounts; but I saw Sheryl Sandberg as a keynote at the Grace Hopper conference in 2011, and she actually did a solid speech on a very similar topic. IIRC, she discussed the challenges and compromises that women make in technology or other male-dominated field; but she also discussed how that landscape can change, and how women can achieve success both with their family and in a career, similar to your summation of Ms Allred's points.
I'm not sure if Allred was trying to make family/career balance come across as utopian, but I'd take what I heard during Sandberg's keynote more to heart because it is, in fact, not an easy balance to achieve... It goes so far beyond needing an unbiased employer; you also need your sig o's unwavering support, and be able to handle the possibility of living a less traditional (non-hallmark) kind of life. Forget social stigmas within the workplace when there is a giant elephant in the room regarding the roles/duties between husband and wife/mother and father.
You must be single, or have a very understanding partner who lets you bring a cell phone while making love or cuddling.
You must be single too, because if a woman ever caught you looking at your WATCH while love-making/cuddling, you probably would have been a chalk outline at a crime scene by now.
I definitely agree; there is some sacrifice involving kids, and we are most certainly an exception to the norm: we both come from small families who live nearby, with both of our parents giving us the "procreate us some grandkids" speech, and even more luckily both set of parents are in good health.
I think a lot of it has to do with perspective; I grew up in a single-parent household, and my dad struggled to make ends meet.. he couldn't be around all the time, and despite extended family having to help raise myself and my brother, I don't think we ever questioned his devotion to our upbringing even if it meant being a latch-key kid for several years.
With that childhood behind me, I would want my kids to grow up more comfortably than I did *not spoiled - there's a fine line for sure*, and I would hope that either though extended family/a professional nanny, staggered working hours, or the like we'd be able to successfully rear children who were intelligent, of sound mind, and better yet - have ample opportunities that I missed as a lower-class kid.
Not to mention, I've seen several couples who do the "stay at home" thing and their kids become spoiled brats, or mini-antichrists well from the single digits into teens - (Not quite old enough to see how they fare as adults, but I can place bets it doesn't end well.) I think a lot of being a good parent has less to do with parental working hours, and more to do with the level of dedication, care, and love that ensures a positive childhood (sounds completely cheesy, but I'm a firm believer):)
Mod parent up. No good job will ever be MORE distracting than the home; therefore telecommuting should be treated like a "good" workplace and the wife and kids should respect your office hours.
While I think you are correct that *typically* men choose career fields with higher salaries, that doesn't mean that the sig other should feel obligated to sacrifice their job. For instance, I have a job offer standing (for after graduation in May) that pays 20% more than my sig other's current job, and he's been working in his career for 5 years (he's mech engineering, I'm info sec). Although we are a few years away from having kids, I would never ask him to step down from his job, and I would INSTA-divorce if he asked me to do the same - we are both in our ideal field of work.
Planning ahead, we know we wouldn't feel comfortable having our kid in child-care, nor would we trust some rando-teenager to take care of our kids.. but we have retired parents, a friend who is a professional nanny, and other resources we could research to make sure our kid grew up stable without forcing this concept of "stay-at-home" parenting.
I think it's a bit unfair, regardless of gender, to rationalize the non bread-winning partner having to make that kind of decision, unless full-time parenting is something they wholeheartedly WANT to do.
Wow.. that protective order is chock full of lawyer and woman trickery... He has to post that paragraph of BS on his facebook wall EVERY DAY for 30 days?! That right there is the signature of a SERIOUSLY vindictive woman. I'm not even sure vindictive is a strong enough word.
I kind of have to disagree here. Although my mom got custody in my parent's divorce; she managed to fuck up parenting by way of drug use and petty larceny, and one court date later my dad was offered custody. Mind you, this was in Texas too, where maternal custody is (or at least in the 80s/90s, was) favored in divorce/visitation issues.
I agree that courts typically favor women to the point of being unfair, but the justice system tends to take child endangerment at varying levels of severity pretty seriously.
Mod parent up.
I was actually curious to see how people who prefer Apple are reacting to the overwhelming amount of lawsuits being filed, as I'm typically vendor neutral and just buy whatever suits my needs/wants. It's relieving to see all types of users getting annoyed by this.
You do realize that is how some of the most dangerous people ever were voted into office?
Yep, I concur. After all, the timing is just perfect to appease the masses.
Forget parties, look at the public reaction to SOPA - If I wanted to a government position in the upcoming elections, with a topic this hot I'd side with the people voting for me, not necessarily the ones who have/will sign me checks. A few bold statements shunning SOPA/PIPA, and I wind up getting all the advertising I need across newspapers nationwide.
Put many signs to redirect those who are looking for toilets into a small cabinet where they would be Rickrolled, with at least a Rick poster and a player starting to play the pop song as soon as they open the door.
Also set up a camera and display the results on your large HD screen once you have a bunch of funny reactions.
Unfortunately, every trip I've ever had to make to the Apple Store resulted in heartache.. It's like a bad help desk line for any half-competent user.
The final straw happened when I had an issue with my iPhone a little over a year ago.. a couple hard resets and eventually restoring it to factory defaults did not correct the problem. Made an appointment, waited 15 minutes after my scheduled time, was directed to an iPhone "genius", who asked me if I'd hard reset it or restored it, and then told me she couldn't help me any further, and I needed to speak with an "iPhone expert".. and waited another 20 minutes to have a guy simply pitch me purchasing a refurb one for $200.
Needless to say, I sold it for parts and went Android. Haven't looked back since.
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Entertaining and painful. Aquaman knows I wouldn't have put up with half of what that redditor did regardless of my personal/financial circumstances.
IE, my spelling on cubemate*
From an X-chromosome perspective, it's more funny to read the war between the chauvinists and the white knights. On a serious note, I'll add my two cents: Don't treat me like I'm your secretary, don't put me on a pedestal. Treat me like a normal cubmate, give me projects appropriate for my level of competency, and if I screw something up call me on it. Really, it's that simple.
I missed the NPR broadcast today, nor have I seen Gloria Allred's accounts; but I saw Sheryl Sandberg as a keynote at the Grace Hopper conference in 2011, and she actually did a solid speech on a very similar topic. IIRC, she discussed the challenges and compromises that women make in technology or other male-dominated field; but she also discussed how that landscape can change, and how women can achieve success both with their family and in a career, similar to your summation of Ms Allred's points. I'm not sure if Allred was trying to make family/career balance come across as utopian, but I'd take what I heard during Sandberg's keynote more to heart because it is, in fact, not an easy balance to achieve... It goes so far beyond needing an unbiased employer; you also need your sig o's unwavering support, and be able to handle the possibility of living a less traditional (non-hallmark) kind of life. Forget social stigmas within the workplace when there is a giant elephant in the room regarding the roles/duties between husband and wife/mother and father.
You must be single, or have a very understanding partner who lets you bring a cell phone while making love or cuddling.
You must be single too, because if a woman ever caught you looking at your WATCH while love-making/cuddling, you probably would have been a chalk outline at a crime scene by now.
You must be new here. It would have been 15 minutes and 300+ comments before any of us even went and read the article.
I like you, sir. Thanks for the laugh this morning. You're 100% right, and half of those comments would have read "RTFA" :)
Recursive lying... I like it.
/.ers would have debunked it in 15 minutes. Just sayin'.
.. but Brawndo's got electrolytes!
I thought instagram and iphones were big in artist circles. Instagram should already be full of pictures of soy lattes and fixer gear bixes.
FTFY
A world of fixed speed bikes and chai lattes, bro.
I definitely agree; there is some sacrifice involving kids, and we are most certainly an exception to the norm: we both come from small families who live nearby, with both of our parents giving us the "procreate us some grandkids" speech, and even more luckily both set of parents are in good health.
:)
I think a lot of it has to do with perspective; I grew up in a single-parent household, and my dad struggled to make ends meet.. he couldn't be around all the time, and despite extended family having to help raise myself and my brother, I don't think we ever questioned his devotion to our upbringing even if it meant being a latch-key kid for several years.
With that childhood behind me, I would want my kids to grow up more comfortably than I did *not spoiled - there's a fine line for sure*, and I would hope that either though extended family/a professional nanny, staggered working hours, or the like we'd be able to successfully rear children who were intelligent, of sound mind, and better yet - have ample opportunities that I missed as a lower-class kid.
Not to mention, I've seen several couples who do the "stay at home" thing and their kids become spoiled brats, or mini-antichrists well from the single digits into teens - (Not quite old enough to see how they fare as adults, but I can place bets it doesn't end well.) I think a lot of being a good parent has less to do with parental working hours, and more to do with the level of dedication, care, and love that ensures a positive childhood (sounds completely cheesy, but I'm a firm believer)
Mod parent up. No good job will ever be MORE distracting than the home; therefore telecommuting should be treated like a "good" workplace and the wife and kids should respect your office hours.
While I think you are correct that *typically* men choose career fields with higher salaries, that doesn't mean that the sig other should feel obligated to sacrifice their job. For instance, I have a job offer standing (for after graduation in May) that pays 20% more than my sig other's current job, and he's been working in his career for 5 years (he's mech engineering, I'm info sec). Although we are a few years away from having kids, I would never ask him to step down from his job, and I would INSTA-divorce if he asked me to do the same - we are both in our ideal field of work.
Planning ahead, we know we wouldn't feel comfortable having our kid in child-care, nor would we trust some rando-teenager to take care of our kids.. but we have retired parents, a friend who is a professional nanny, and other resources we could research to make sure our kid grew up stable without forcing this concept of "stay-at-home" parenting.
I think it's a bit unfair, regardless of gender, to rationalize the non bread-winning partner having to make that kind of decision, unless full-time parenting is something they wholeheartedly WANT to do.
I like your thinking sir...
Wow.. that protective order is chock full of lawyer and woman trickery... He has to post that paragraph of BS on his facebook wall EVERY DAY for 30 days?! That right there is the signature of a SERIOUSLY vindictive woman. I'm not even sure vindictive is a strong enough word.
I kind of have to disagree here. Although my mom got custody in my parent's divorce; she managed to fuck up parenting by way of drug use and petty larceny, and one court date later my dad was offered custody. Mind you, this was in Texas too, where maternal custody is (or at least in the 80s/90s, was) favored in divorce/visitation issues. I agree that courts typically favor women to the point of being unfair, but the justice system tends to take child endangerment at varying levels of severity pretty seriously.
Mod parent up. I was actually curious to see how people who prefer Apple are reacting to the overwhelming amount of lawsuits being filed, as I'm typically vendor neutral and just buy whatever suits my needs/wants. It's relieving to see all types of users getting annoyed by this.
You forgot the "Who has two thumbs and.." part to your retort.
So.. when will this be publicly available? My K:D ratio for Modern Warfare 2 could use a boost..
You do realize that is how some of the most dangerous people ever were voted into office?
Yep, I concur. After all, the timing is just perfect to appease the masses. Forget parties, look at the public reaction to SOPA - If I wanted to a government position in the upcoming elections, with a topic this hot I'd side with the people voting for me, not necessarily the ones who have/will sign me checks. A few bold statements shunning SOPA/PIPA, and I wind up getting all the advertising I need across newspapers nationwide.
Put many signs to redirect those who are looking for toilets into a small cabinet where they would be Rickrolled, with at least a Rick poster and a player starting to play the pop song as soon as they open the door.
Also set up a camera and display the results on your large HD screen once you have a bunch of funny reactions.
This. Someone mod him up.
I'll see your John Doe, and raise you The Giver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giver
Unfortunately, every trip I've ever had to make to the Apple Store resulted in heartache.. It's like a bad help desk line for any half-competent user. The final straw happened when I had an issue with my iPhone a little over a year ago.. a couple hard resets and eventually restoring it to factory defaults did not correct the problem. Made an appointment, waited 15 minutes after my scheduled time, was directed to an iPhone "genius", who asked me if I'd hard reset it or restored it, and then told me she couldn't help me any further, and I needed to speak with an "iPhone expert".. and waited another 20 minutes to have a guy simply pitch me purchasing a refurb one for $200. Needless to say, I sold it for parts and went Android. Haven't looked back since.