Like so many argueing against open-source, all of your premises are equaly valid for proprietary-source software also. Your OSSapp gets abanduned vs. your app vendor going tits-up or getting aquired and the app dropped; whats the difference?
Paying for an custom featured added to an OSS vs. payng to change your business practises to fit comercial software; what's the difference?
it all depends on the sitsuation, you have to do your own cost to benifit analysis.
the md5 of the file is there so you can check the file against your own md5sum of the file, if the sums don't match, you know that the file was garbled between the time the original sum was made and your own sum was made; it's there to guard against transmittion errors. The sign on the otherhand not only confirms an intact transfer, but also authenticates that the file was actualy signed by a known entity.
I remember seeing on TV a story about the guy that invented the laser, he had drawing of how the thing needed to be built, which was exactly how the HeNe gas lasers were eventaly built, but the PTO refused the patent on the grounds of no prototype, which was techncaly impossible to build at the time. After twenty years of fighting the PTO in court, he eventual won his patent and got a boat load of money, because the patent was effective for the 17 years after being granted, and everybody and his brother was using the things; if the patent was granted at the time of application, he would have gotten zip! Some where between these two extremes is where we need to be.
If it's not commercial you're relying on people with nothing better to do than write software for you.
That's why IBM invested a billion dollars into linux developement? A lot of heavy lifting in linux is done on paid company time by professional programmers. How much of what's in Windows began life as a cheesey share-ware program or utility that was assimalated by BillGatus of borg?
Wish I could have seen Daryl's face when that was shown durring the superbowl! Also wish that the "linux kid" was more of a self-confident, capable but young bussiness type rather than a child prodegy type.
If the court finds that "based on" is the same as deriative of, IBM is in bad shape.
Copyright (c) International Business Machines Corp., 2001 This program is free software;... Author: Dipankar Sarma (Based on a Dynix/ptx implementation by Paul Mckenney.... IBM has breached Sequent's obligation of confidentiality by contributing portions of the Software Product (including System V source code, derivative works, modifications, and methods based thereon) to open source development of Linux and by using UNIX development methods in making modifications to Linux 2.4.x kernel and above, which are in material part, unauthorized derivative works of the Software Product, including but not limited to DYNIX/ptx-based NUMA technology, source code and methods, RCU source code and methods, and SMP source code and methods.
IBM-authored code is the stuff that I imagine to be easiest to remove JFS, it's utilities and Enterprise Volume Management System. It's also the stuff that is least likely to be part of System V because JFS was also used in OS2 warp as I understand it. Taking out the sequent code on the other hand will seriously hurt SMP, threads, performance on Intel single processors using hyperthreading and athlon-64/opterons.Of course I'm not a kernel developer or a lawyer so mileage may vary
No not really, by copyrighting software, your protecting the implimentation of a "method" for 90 years, but others are free to impliment the "method" using original source code, this is reverse-engineering. However with a patent on the "method" is protected for 17 years, so even if the method is reverse-engineered, it's still got protection. Personaly I don't understand why the PTO doesn't require that the un-copyrighted source code needed to implement a method isn't required to be filed; a software prototype or model of the "device or method". That would allow others to patent improvements to the original patent; would that build a fire under developers asses to improve their products!
I would hope that as a DBA, if you hired me as a sub-contractor, or even as a sub-of-a-sub-of-a-sub, that the database I was given to develope the prototype of the app with would be populated with dummy data. Posting of the data on the Internet runs afoul of New York state's confidentiality laws, not to mention some federal laws for example:"M,Tue. & Fri when mother attends treatment program and therapy,( approx. 20 hrs per wk)" sure looks like a HIPPA violation to me (IANAL ect.) at $50K/occurance, it passed thru 5 hands, 1 the Livingston County Department of Social Services, 2 Mark Dennis, 3 Genesee Community College, 5 RentACoder.com, 6. The programmer who took the job that $250K in potential fine for just one database record!
It always struck me as ironic that the same people crying the loadest about protecting children, are usualy intrumental in getting them hurt.
I don't think this is true, in even the slightest bit. Actualy your wrong, there is tons for grunt work to do that's perfect for advanced amateurs. Not many Pro's will devote rare big-appature telescope time to looking to see if there might be a new supernova or commet visable.
any type of rain would cause complete signal loss. I've never had that problem on a system that I aimed, however I have seen a couple professional instalations with that problem. The Pro's are almost always an over-worked Independant contractor paid flat-rate, so he gets the same for a 1 hour job as he does for an all day sucker. So His goal is to get you to sign-off on the job as quick as possible, not to get you a signal that'll stay usable under less than ideal conditions.
SCO connection is a red herring
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The linked mailing-list at,Math.org reports the preliminary disassembly show that the worm only resolves the name SCO.com, and is unhappy if the name doesn't resolve. My guess is that have the name resolve shows the worm that an active internet connection exists, with out tipping it's hand too badly. In test environments the worm didn't attact SCO.com no matter what the computer's date was set to.
windows staff is cheaper If that is true, and personaly I believe it, it's because Microsoft has managed to commoditize Microsoft staff. Seems like everybody and his brother has written a book on getting an MCSE, or an A+ cert. You can find MCSE's on the sales staff, and I'm talking about commercial, shrink-wrapped sales, not specialized custom apps.
I know this sounds like flamebait, and I don't mean it that way, but the truth is that there are a lot of people who got a Microsoft cert, after taking a brain-dump course only because they wanted their ticket punched. Of course all of these TCO studies are going to ignore the expense of repairing the damage these cert jockeys, that's both in-house damage and collateral damage caused when their collective bummbling allow the nest worm to blast thru the internet.
The problem is that most people don't have three-button mice.
Poppy-cock, most people do have at least three buttons on their mouse now, the last two button mouse in our office was connected to a P60, Packard-Bell. The mice with a scroll wheel register as 5 buttons, left, right, scroll wheel straight down is middle and rolling forward and backward are 4 and 5. Your case is an exception rather than the norm.
These customers have no interest in anything but the most accurate result. There are so many factors involved with the TCO of any software/Business system that accurate measure is impossible. If the Local Comm College is cranking out MCSE's a dime a dozen, the admin cost's will be less than where MCSE's are in demand. How many times does a Bussiness change it's partices to fit the predjudices of a commercial software package, and incur training expenses rather than use a custom package that does exactly what you want? If the latest virus whipes out net traffic, and my ATM card gets whiped out because the PIN number gets currupted three times, does company B's accounts get charge with the cost of replacing bank A's ATM card for me?
I caught that too, even in Michigan, we have a few "sacred cow" employers, that realy have to kiss the pooch to get any critical press coverage. In fact by applying the "sacred cow" filter to the article, in comes out extremely deragatory.
Well let's see Indian programers typicaly make 16.7 times the national per capital GDP (India GDP per capita $480 / Typical salary for a programmer $8,000) American Programmer make 2.3 (Typical salary for a programmer $70,000 / GDP per capita $35,060) I think the Indian programmers are living pretty large.
a DBA is basicaly a registered alias, it offers no protection that I'm aware of. DBA, Doing Business As, it actualy point to your assets. I've seen corp's with DBA as well as sole proprieterships, here in MI. your jurisdiction many be different. Get Competent legal and accounting advise.
Is SCO dying? I'd say that SCO is the proverbial dead man walking. 1. their technology is decades old. 2. any goodwill with end-users has been destroyed before they purchased any IP 3. any goodwill with developers has been destroyed after they purchased any IP 4. any IP they purchased has been picked clean of anything valuable, through numerous sales and mergers. What we are seeing now is like watching a corparate version of "Faces of Death". They're like the kid in school walking arround with a "kick me" sign taped to his back, except thet put the sign on and are still whining about being kicked.
The Ann Arbor area has a lot of companies that'll install your T1 or partial-T, internet and local-long distance telephone sevice into one package. last time we looked at it it was almost cost effective for a dental office, and that was about 6 years ago, competion for the dollar has gotten a bit stiffer since then.
The bounce to the bird is irrelevant for downloads and uploads (you only experience the lag once),
My experience seems different, FTP upload speed has a major suckage factor; there is just too much hand shaking going on. In fact if you're uploading a new website, with a lot of directory depth and a ton of smallish file, 56K dial-up will kick digital satelites ass up arround it's ears.
Satelite is optimized from cramming data down, not up.Of course if your just web browsing mostly, it'll make quite a difference, if the server your browsing can keep up
Do they have to refund everyone who was coerced into buying licenses?
As John Wayne once said, "Life is tough, life is tougher when your stupid." The "licenses" is to hold harmless, or is lay terms they agree not to sue you, if there is nothing to sue over, they still haven't sued you, and fullfilled their agreement; no refund due!
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Like so many argueing against open-source, all of your premises are equaly valid for proprietary-source software also.
Your OSSapp gets abanduned vs. your app vendor going tits-up or getting aquired and the app dropped; whats the difference?
Paying for an custom featured added to an OSS vs. payng to change your business practises to fit comercial software; what's the difference?
it all depends on the sitsuation, you have to do your own cost to benifit analysis.
the md5 of the file is there so you can check the file against your own md5sum of the file, if the sums don't match, you know that the file was garbled between the time the original sum was made and your own sum was made; it's there to guard against transmittion errors. The sign on the otherhand not only confirms an intact transfer, but also authenticates that the file was actualy signed by a known entity.
I remember seeing on TV a story about the guy that invented the laser, he had drawing of how the thing needed to be built, which was exactly how the HeNe gas lasers were eventaly built, but the PTO refused the patent on the grounds of no prototype, which was techncaly impossible to build at the time. After twenty years of fighting the PTO in court, he eventual won his patent and got a boat load of money, because the patent was effective for the 17 years after being granted, and everybody and his brother was using the things; if the patent was granted at the time of application, he would have gotten zip! Some where between these two extremes is where we need to be.
If it's not commercial you're relying on people with nothing better to do than write software for you.
That's why IBM invested a billion dollars into linux developement? A lot of heavy lifting in linux is done on paid company time by professional programmers. How much of what's in Windows began life as a cheesey share-ware program or utility that was assimalated by BillGatus of borg?
1 commercial of the pre-pubescent "linux-kid"
2 commercials for erectile dysfunction medicine
1 half time showing of Jannet's titty
I sense a conspiracy, time to get some tin-foil condoms! Just remember, erections lasting more than 4 hours require intervention.
Wish I could have seen Daryl's face when that was shown durring the superbowl! Also wish that the "linux kid" was more of a self-confident, capable but young bussiness type rather than a child prodegy type.
Kewl, new wallpaper for my computer at work!
IBM-authored code is the stuff that I imagine to be easiest to remove JFS, it's utilities and Enterprise Volume Management System. It's also the stuff that is least likely to be part of System V because JFS was also used in OS2 warp as I understand it. Taking out the sequent code on the other hand will seriously hurt SMP, threads, performance on Intel single processors using hyperthreading and athlon-64/opterons.Of course I'm not a kernel developer or a lawyer so mileage may vary
No not really, by copyrighting software, your protecting the implimentation of a "method" for 90 years, but others are free to impliment the "method" using original source code, this is reverse-engineering. However with a patent on the "method" is protected for 17 years, so even if the method is reverse-engineered, it's still got protection. Personaly I don't understand why the PTO doesn't require that the un-copyrighted source code needed to implement a method isn't required to be filed; a software prototype or model of the "device or method". That would allow others to patent improvements to the original patent; would that build a fire under developers asses to improve their products!
I would hope that as a DBA, if you hired me as a sub-contractor, or even as a sub-of-a-sub-of-a-sub, that the database I was given to develope the prototype of the app with would be populated with dummy data. Posting of the data on the Internet runs afoul of New York state's confidentiality laws, not to mention some federal laws for example:"M,Tue. & Fri when mother attends treatment program and therapy,( approx. 20 hrs per wk)" sure looks like a HIPPA violation to me (IANAL ect.) at $50K/occurance, it passed thru 5 hands, 1 the Livingston County Department of Social Services, 2 Mark Dennis, 3 Genesee Community College, 5 RentACoder.com, 6. The programmer who took the job that $250K in potential fine for just one database record!
It always struck me as ironic that the same people crying the loadest about protecting children, are usualy intrumental in getting them hurt.
I don't think this is true, in even the slightest bit.
Actualy your wrong, there is tons for grunt work to do that's perfect for advanced amateurs. Not many Pro's will devote rare big-appature telescope time to looking to see if there might be a new supernova or commet visable.
any type of rain would cause complete signal loss.
I've never had that problem on a system that I aimed, however I have seen a couple professional instalations with that problem. The Pro's are almost always an over-worked Independant contractor paid flat-rate, so he gets the same for a 1 hour job as he does for an all day sucker. So His goal is to get you to sign-off on the job as quick as possible, not to get you a signal that'll stay usable under less than ideal conditions.
The linked mailing-list at,Math.org reports the preliminary disassembly show that the worm only resolves the name SCO.com, and is unhappy if the name doesn't resolve. My guess is that have the name resolve shows the worm that an active internet connection exists, with out tipping it's hand too badly. In test environments the worm didn't attact SCO.com no matter what the computer's date was set to.
windows staff is cheaper
If that is true, and personaly I believe it, it's because Microsoft has managed to commoditize Microsoft staff. Seems like everybody and his brother has written a book on getting an MCSE, or an A+ cert. You can find MCSE's on the sales staff, and I'm talking about commercial, shrink-wrapped sales, not specialized custom apps.
I know this sounds like flamebait, and I don't mean it that way, but the truth is that there are a lot of people who got a Microsoft cert, after taking a brain-dump course only because they wanted their ticket punched. Of course all of these TCO studies are going to ignore the expense of repairing the damage these cert jockeys, that's both in-house damage and collateral damage caused when their collective bummbling allow the nest worm to blast thru the internet.
The problem is that most people don't have three-button mice.
Poppy-cock, most people do have at least three buttons on their mouse now, the last two button mouse in our office was connected to a P60, Packard-Bell. The mice with a scroll wheel register as 5 buttons, left, right, scroll wheel straight down is middle and rolling forward and backward are 4 and 5. Your case is an exception rather than the norm.
These customers have no interest in anything but the most accurate result.
There are so many factors involved with the TCO of any software/Business system that accurate measure is impossible.
If the Local Comm College is cranking out MCSE's a dime a dozen, the admin cost's will be less than where MCSE's are in demand.
How many times does a Bussiness change it's partices to fit the predjudices of a commercial software package, and incur training expenses rather than use a custom package that does exactly what you want?
If the latest virus whipes out net traffic, and my ATM card gets whiped out because the PIN number gets currupted three times, does company B's accounts get charge with the cost of replacing bank A's ATM card for me?
I caught that too, even in Michigan, we have a few "sacred cow" employers, that realy have to kiss the pooch to get any critical press coverage. In fact by applying the "sacred cow" filter to the article, in comes out extremely deragatory.
Well let's see
Indian programers typicaly make 16.7 times the national per capital GDP (India
GDP per capita $480 / Typical salary for a programmer $8,000) American Programmer make 2.3 (Typical salary for a programmer $70,000 / GDP per capita $35,060) I think the Indian programmers are living pretty large.
a DBA is basicaly a registered alias, it offers no protection that I'm aware of. DBA, Doing Business As, it actualy point to your assets. I've seen corp's with DBA as well as sole proprieterships, here in MI. your jurisdiction many be different. Get Competent legal and accounting advise.
Is SCO dying? I'd say that SCO is the proverbial dead man walking.
1. their technology is decades old.
2. any goodwill with end-users has been destroyed before they purchased any IP
3. any goodwill with developers has been destroyed after they purchased any IP
4. any IP they purchased has been picked clean of anything valuable, through numerous sales and mergers.
What we are seeing now is like watching a corparate version of "Faces of Death". They're like the kid in school walking arround with a "kick me" sign taped to his back, except thet put the sign on and are still whining about being kicked.
The Ann Arbor area has a lot of companies that'll install your T1 or partial-T, internet and local-long distance telephone sevice into one package. last time we looked at it it was almost cost effective for a dental office, and that was about 6 years ago, competion for the dollar has gotten a bit stiffer since then.
The bounce to the bird is irrelevant for downloads and uploads (you only experience the lag once),
My experience seems different, FTP upload speed has a major suckage factor; there is just too much hand shaking going on. In fact if you're uploading a new website, with a lot of directory depth and a ton of smallish file, 56K dial-up will kick digital satelites ass up arround it's ears.
Satelite is optimized from cramming data down, not up.Of course if your just web browsing mostly, it'll make quite a difference, if the server your browsing can keep up
either that or they'll say they meant silver colored metal, like zinc or aluminun
Bush's interests are very much on the "for-profit" side of things.
I'm sure that after the Florida election brewhaha, Bush is going to be impressed with SCOX choise of lawyers too.
Do they have to refund everyone who was coerced into buying licenses?
As John Wayne once said, "Life is tough, life is tougher when your stupid."
The "licenses" is to hold harmless, or is lay terms they agree not to sue you, if there is nothing to sue over, they still haven't sued you, and fullfilled their agreement; no refund due!