LOL - So after posting I decided to try the latest ad-aware (this being my 4th try over the course of many months) and viola! v5.62 runs fine on my laptops that it refused to run on before - sweet!
I tend not to install much shareware for precisely this reason - so I've tried Ad-aware a number of times over the past year. Crashes on Win2K like clockwork. Differnet machines, installs, etc - Always crashes - not sure if its Mozilla, or what. But the only computer I ever got it to run on was a Win98 box (my kids machine) and it found little. Anyone else seem to have torubles like this?
Yeah, why are people so happy about this, when they would be foaming at the mouth if Microsoft wanted to charge you $5/month?
Simple - I can install RedHat for free. I have to buy M$ at a cost of $100-$200 every year or two for each machine. Too expensive for me for what I get.
Thats why I never used RHN - too expensive for my little LAN of 5 or 6 machines. But $60/year for the service seems like a great deal. And I can't help but feel lik ewhen $ goes to RedHat its almost a donation where money sent to M$ feels like gettin grobbed - can't explain why though:)
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Um, yeah and if you cache the page itself with all teh links back to their advertising provider, they'll still get all teh ad views and clicks they would have if you viewed their page on their server. The only thing a/. cache screws up is the stats for the content page itself. Seems to me you cache the HTML page linked to - it will still point back to ad banners and stuff. Sure folks use relative addressing - easily fixed with teh cache script - insert absolute URL for links/images without it, etc.
Another zero to the end of the avg Linux uptime...would be a more precise measurment of the same exact value as before. In other words, no difference in reliability. I hope this was a pathetic attempt at humor rather than an example of his math skills.
If it was a decimal. Seems to me if the average uptime of linux boxen went from 1000 days to 10000 days, things are improving. Whose math skills are suspect here?
Alan Cox: Another zero to the end of the average Linux uptime, [...]
Love it! As for the/.ing - I jumped in right when the story popped up and PHP_Nuke was already showing 803 guests online so it went down fast and hard!
I'm curious if they'll settle down to always being up against the cap you've set (that's my bet), or if they will be collectively rational enough to curb their own behavior (ha!).
Thats the million dollar question, but the network guys had to do something. There was no easy way to selectively reduce the bandwidth usage given the adaptive nature of some of these P2P programs. So to avoid getting lynched by the other universities that used our pipe (and being forced to pay a larger share of the overall pipe costs due to avg usage levels) the cap was put in place and the students notifed. Info included how to limit the bandiwdth usage of the more common P2P programs - hopefully they'll do the right thing;)
True. However, port usage reports showed it was mostly music sharing/P2P programs. Also - the bandwidth usage was peaking during the day when students were in class...
I've got proof, at least from our university. We hit 400-500Mb/s usage on our Internet pipe. We put a bandwidth limit on the dorm network of 25Mb/s and overall usage dropped to 70-90Mb/s You do the math.
Sure, legitimate bandwidth use is high. But student use of bandwidth is huge.
The university I work at has a huge pipe (1Gb I think) shared with two other local universities. Generally we use the least amount of the bandwidth, but at one point our usage had hit like 500Mb/s Needless to say teh other schools were freaking - they were losing packets due to teh pipe being so full. Well, our dorms are on their own network. Sure enough, thats where most of the bandwidth was going. Blocking Kazza/Morpheus and co is tough since it'll switch and seek out other ports. So the only solution was to limit the total bandwidth for the dorms to 25Mb/s Sure enough, once that block went in place our usage overall dropped to like 90Mb/s. 300-400Mb/s of bandwidth just for the dorms????
The students were upset since their pipe was now slam full and they had trouble getting out, but the response basically was - stop running servers and stuff for music that suck up bandwidth and you'll be able to get on the Net to do the stuff you need to do. Its not perfect, but for now it works and keeps us from totally saturating our pipe.
My ISP is also my cable TV and phone service provider...
$100 - yeah I can see that (and pay that now for my DSL, Sat TV, and phone service) But $230? No way!
I agree with the comment of Apple having a subversive way of getting folks to run *nix at home. I'm a Linux & Windows guy. I've never liked Macs. MacOS was too touchy feely without any way to really get at teh guts (thats why I like regedit - if I really feel ina destructive mood I can knock my PC into the dirt!) Seriously - I hated WIndows for its lack of stability, but didn't feel MacOS 8 or 9 was much better.
Well, we recently had a Mac user in our area have his HD crash and burn. While I was swapping out the HD he was complaining about how often it crashed, etc, etc. So on a whim I installed OS 10.1 for him. All I can say is wow - what an amazing OS. Not from a "look Ma, a bash prompt" and not necessarily for me - I like my Gnome desktop. But from an average user's perspective, OS X is sweet! The interface is very nice - and it is so stable. The user made that very comment "Why hasn't it crashed on me?" He used to have crashes all the time. Now he has the other Mac users asking if they can upgrade anytime soon.
No its not perfect. but Apple really managed to finally create a non-technical user desktop and OS built around a stable fast core. Good for them, I hope it really works out for them. I'll stick with Linux case its fun, but my wife, anotehr Mac user at work complains about usign Windows to do stuff at home - maybe she'll get an iMac for her birthday with OS X - nah - the new ones are too ugly:) Don't want people to think my LCD screen took a dump on my desk:)
Yes, in an ideal world we'd produce electricity without producing hazardous waste, etc. But the bottom line is we're building up loads of waste. Its got to be stored somewhere and somewhere secure. Like a previous poster said, talk about an ideal target for a terrorist. Many of these power companies have the waste stored outside on cemet pads surrounded by motion sensors, razor wire fence, armed guards and such, but a determined terrorist could still get to it if he wanted. This stuff needs to be stored in a secure location. Here in NC, our local power co, CP&L stores its waste in holding pools, allowing for denser storage of the fuel rods. There was a huge fight with a nearby county about the expansion of those pools (Currently only one is in use and CP&L wanted to bring another online) Both sides spent millions claiming the other was wrong. But in the end? Its an easy target. One well placed technician who knows his stuff could find a way to empty that pool or disable the cooling system and you've got three mile island all over again as teh rods boil off the water and start a reaction - remember, these things aren't inside a cement surrounded reactor vessel - they're open on top for access.
What kills me is millions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted in non stop fights over this site. Yes, nobody wats it in their backyard and if I lived near the site (like within a few hundred miles) I'd probably think about moving. But in this world if its not a nuclear dump, its a real dump, a highway going through your house, high tension utility wires, etc. I'm currently in teh study area for a divided highway, with oone of the routes going straight through our house. Sucks huge not knowin if you'll still be allowed to own your house X years from now - nice to know that none of us realyl OWN our land:)
I never thought the current show was all that great. The cartoon had a twisted bent to it that was enjoyable from time to time. Course, I never watch cartoons - its for the kids, yeah - that's it. he kids.
I predict that if Staroffice 6 really does kick some ass, and Ximian's exchange plugin works as promised...
Good point. I've found SO 6.0beta to be wonderful. I run it on both WIn 2K and Linux and am very happy with it so far. Any noticable quirks for me are minor (like why does auto spell always come up disabaled, etc) The filters are night and day better than anything before them. No, its not a 100% replacement for Office, but I'm not lookin gfor that. I'm looking for a client which the 90% of my users who don't need all teh features of Office can use. Even at $40, if Sun decides to charge, it'll be worth it in volume (since I'm sure the price will drop for the enterprise)
That said, I think Sun would be better off not charging for 6.0 They need on kick butt Office release which folks can adopt and few will adopt ian unproven suite if they have to pay for it. Get them hooked, then maybe with 6.5 or 7.0, charge for the upgrade. Folks that are convinced will pay while those that want free as in beer will stick with 6 It would help the penetration of Linux into the desktop. Of course I wonder if distros like RedHat will just pay Sun some cash and include SO in their distros. Only time will tell.
Geezus christ, what has slashdot come to that articles like this get 5 - funny?
Well, it almost made Pepsi come out my nose - I thought it was hilarious and would have mod'ed it up if it wasn't at +5 already. Its funny - PR dorks are supposed to choose their words carefully.
A month? For updates to Gnome and other products I need to purchase? I just can't see how $120/yr is a good value (ok $99.95 if I buy it a year at a time). Of course Redhat wants $240/yr per machine. Yes, I know bandwidth is expensive, etc, etc and Ximian needs to make money. I'm all for that. But the pricing seems a bit off. Hell - for $120 or $240 a year I can buy windows and still get updates to it (teh few there are;) ) for free.
I'm not saying everything has to be free. But come on! For example - I've got 3 desktops (me and kids) and a laptop. All run Redhat. Do I have to buy subscriptions for each (I do with RedHat) That's $400/yr just to auto update my packages? I hate dependency problems as much as the next guy but that's nuts.
I agree with the poster - I'll be doing my upgrades overnight and send Ximian what I feel is fair value for the desktop and the service.
I lived in NY near Stewart-Newburgh airport which is where many of the C5A Galaxy's are based. These huge things are unreal - watching one come in for a landing is amazing - they seem to almost hover in midair - they're so big they almost appear to not be moving as they come in.
One of the runways at Stewart ends near some trees and there is a road cut through those trees along the edge of the airport. YOu can't see the runway from the road. One time I was driving along on a sunny day when everything went dark. One of the C5's had just taken off - the thing was so low it looked like it was skimming the trees, and it flew right over us. Seeing something that large fly right over you at a low altitude is amazing - it startled me so much to this day I can't believe I stayed on the road.
But you take my post out of context. This whole story is about home users that use VPN to access work - not branch offices synching SQL DBs. A branch office SHOULD pay business class rates - fine. But few if any home users using VPN to log into work are going to do bandwidth intensive stuff. Yes, some will - some ALWAYS do, but in most cases the bandwidth usage is light - trust me - I managed a remote access group - our problem was never bandwidth for connected users - it was just the sheer # of users who wanted to be logged in at one time - but the traffic going into and out of the RA network was light even at our concetration point.
I've got a VPN switch at my house to I can tunnel in from work if necessary - nuff said:) I have friends who tunnel in as well to access files on my box. So yes there are some folks who use VPN to do non business stuff. VPN is not some magic thing that requires business class service - hell you can use it (varely) over dialup. This is just an attempt to get more $$$ for the SAME service. Sur e- business class accounts might get better QOS - but obviously the folks using VPN from home DON'T NEED IT. Otherwise they woudl already have business class accounts. So don't rationalize this by saying they get more - they don't need it - they just need Internet access to get into work networks from home from time to time - its a total waste of money otherwise. Business class accounts are for businesses to access the net from their place of business.
Why would they do this? Because business accounts use more bandwidth on average.
Bull. Show me stats - real stats that back this up. Residential users actually use more bandwidth than a business user @ home ever would. Gnutella, Browsing heavy graphical sites, etc. Most business users use VPN to check.... email. Maybe access a file server but how many files will they work on at once?
This is typical telco mindset being applied by cable companies - jack up business rates for the same service you provide to homes since you lose money on residential service. Then try to get as many folks on business lines as possible. Same thing happened with dial up - telcos wanted us to have business lines for hoem dialup users into our corporate networks - and we did - why? The IT managers wanted 'business class' support on these lines to get problems fixed faster - like it was gonna shut the company down if manager X couldn't dial in from home on his 2nd phone line and the telco hadn't committed to having it fixed by X hours. (um - what about the first)
I chuckle at all the ISP issues out there - just like banks - the bigger monoliths screw you while you get GREAT service and such from smaller ones. My ISP is a mom/pop phone company that got bought by another company that specialized in running mom/pops. We have excellent service (DSL), great rates, and they are pretty laid back about how you use it (no blocks - not even port 25, etc)
I refuse to pay for extra receivers. THink about it. 2 receivers for your two cars (if you're married or very rich:) ) plus at least one receiver on teh Home AV system. Will it still be $10/month? If so I'd sign up - seems worth it. Or will I get charged another $3-$5 for each additional receiver? I've been a DISH subscriber for years and it just irks me to have to pay $5/month for each extra receiver for additional rooms/TVs. It makes me feel like I'm getting less value.
Nope - from XM's customer agreement:
b) Multiple XM Radios.
If you add additional XM Radios to your account, you may purchase a separate subscription for each one (see Section 5).
That's $30 a month - no way in the world am I paying that - sorry.
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LOL - So after posting I decided to try the latest ad-aware (this being my 4th try over the course of many months) and viola! v5.62 runs fine on my laptops that it refused to run on before - sweet!
I tend not to install much shareware for precisely this reason - so I've tried Ad-aware a number of times over the past year. Crashes on Win2K like clockwork. Differnet machines, installs, etc - Always crashes - not sure if its Mozilla, or what. But the only computer I ever got it to run on was a Win98 box (my kids machine) and it found little. Anyone else seem to have torubles like this?
Simple - I can install RedHat for free. I have to buy M$ at a cost of $100-$200 every year or two for each machine. Too expensive for me for what I get.
Thats why I never used RHN - too expensive for my little LAN of 5 or 6 machines. But $60/year for the service seems like a great deal. And I can't help but feel lik ewhen $ goes to RedHat its almost a donation where money sent to M$ feels like gettin grobbed - can't explain why though :)
Um, yeah and if you cache the page itself with all teh links back to their advertising provider, they'll still get all teh ad views and clicks they would have if you viewed their page on their server. The only thing a /. cache screws up is the stats for the content page itself. Seems to me you cache the HTML page linked to - it will still point back to ad banners and stuff. Sure folks use relative addressing - easily fixed with teh cache script - insert absolute URL for links/images without it, etc.
If it was a decimal. Seems to me if the average uptime of linux boxen went from 1000 days to 10000 days, things are improving. Whose math skills are suspect here?
Alan Cox: Another zero to the end of the average Linux uptime, [...]
Love it! As for the /.ing - I jumped in right when the story popped up and PHP_Nuke was already showing 803 guests online so it went down fast and hard!
Thats the million dollar question, but the network guys had to do something. There was no easy way to selectively reduce the bandwidth usage given the adaptive nature of some of these P2P programs. So to avoid getting lynched by the other universities that used our pipe (and being forced to pay a larger share of the overall pipe costs due to avg usage levels) the cap was put in place and the students notifed. Info included how to limit the bandiwdth usage of the more common P2P programs - hopefully they'll do the right thing ;)
True. However, port usage reports showed it was mostly music sharing/P2P programs. Also - the bandwidth usage was peaking during the day when students were in class...
I've got proof, at least from our university. We hit 400-500Mb/s usage on our Internet pipe. We put a bandwidth limit on the dorm network of 25Mb/s and overall usage dropped to 70-90Mb/s You do the math.
The university I work at has a huge pipe (1Gb I think) shared with two other local universities. Generally we use the least amount of the bandwidth, but at one point our usage had hit like 500Mb/s Needless to say teh other schools were freaking - they were losing packets due to teh pipe being so full. Well, our dorms are on their own network. Sure enough, thats where most of the bandwidth was going. Blocking Kazza/Morpheus and co is tough since it'll switch and seek out other ports. So the only solution was to limit the total bandwidth for the dorms to 25Mb/s Sure enough, once that block went in place our usage overall dropped to like 90Mb/s. 300-400Mb/s of bandwidth just for the dorms????
The students were upset since their pipe was now slam full and they had trouble getting out, but the response basically was - stop running servers and stuff for music that suck up bandwidth and you'll be able to get on the Net to do the stuff you need to do. Its not perfect, but for now it works and keeps us from totally saturating our pipe.
Sure - but who in their right mind would install a root capable tool and NOT restrict access by IP?
Yeah, but no way this got done in this little amount of time given how Microsoft worked to secure the Xbox system and inner workings. Can we say hoax?
LOL - I think /. needs a new section "Hoax of the Day" :)
My ISP is also my cable TV and phone service provider... $100 - yeah I can see that (and pay that now for my DSL, Sat TV, and phone service) But $230? No way!
Well, we recently had a Mac user in our area have his HD crash and burn. While I was swapping out the HD he was complaining about how often it crashed, etc, etc. So on a whim I installed OS 10.1 for him. All I can say is wow - what an amazing OS. Not from a "look Ma, a bash prompt" and not necessarily for me - I like my Gnome desktop. But from an average user's perspective, OS X is sweet! The interface is very nice - and it is so stable. The user made that very comment "Why hasn't it crashed on me?" He used to have crashes all the time. Now he has the other Mac users asking if they can upgrade anytime soon.
No its not perfect. but Apple really managed to finally create a non-technical user desktop and OS built around a stable fast core. Good for them, I hope it really works out for them. I'll stick with Linux case its fun, but my wife, anotehr Mac user at work complains about usign Windows to do stuff at home - maybe she'll get an iMac for her birthday with OS X - nah - the new ones are too ugly :) Don't want people to think my LCD screen took a dump on my desk :)
What kills me is millions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted in non stop fights over this site. Yes, nobody wats it in their backyard and if I lived near the site (like within a few hundred miles) I'd probably think about moving. But in this world if its not a nuclear dump, its a real dump, a highway going through your house, high tension utility wires, etc. I'm currently in teh study area for a divided highway, with oone of the routes going straight through our house. Sucks huge not knowin if you'll still be allowed to own your house X years from now - nice to know that none of us realyl OWN our land :)
I never thought the current show was all that great. The cartoon had a twisted bent to it that was enjoyable from time to time. Course, I never watch cartoons - its for the kids, yeah - that's it. he kids.
Good point. I've found SO 6.0beta to be wonderful. I run it on both WIn 2K and Linux and am very happy with it so far. Any noticable quirks for me are minor (like why does auto spell always come up disabaled, etc) The filters are night and day better than anything before them. No, its not a 100% replacement for Office, but I'm not lookin gfor that. I'm looking for a client which the 90% of my users who don't need all teh features of Office can use. Even at $40, if Sun decides to charge, it'll be worth it in volume (since I'm sure the price will drop for the enterprise)
That said, I think Sun would be better off not charging for 6.0 They need on kick butt Office release which folks can adopt and few will adopt ian unproven suite if they have to pay for it. Get them hooked, then maybe with 6.5 or 7.0, charge for the upgrade. Folks that are convinced will pay while those that want free as in beer will stick with 6 It would help the penetration of Linux into the desktop. Of course I wonder if distros like RedHat will just pay Sun some cash and include SO in their distros. Only time will tell.
Well, it almost made Pepsi come out my nose - I thought it was hilarious and would have mod'ed it up if it wasn't at +5 already. Its funny - PR dorks are supposed to choose their words carefully.
A month? For updates to Gnome and other products I need to purchase? I just can't see how $120/yr is a good value (ok $99.95 if I buy it a year at a time). Of course Redhat wants $240/yr per machine. Yes, I know bandwidth is expensive, etc, etc and Ximian needs to make money. I'm all for that. But the pricing seems a bit off. Hell - for $120 or $240 a year I can buy windows and still get updates to it (teh few there are ;) ) for free.
I'm not saying everything has to be free. But come on! For example - I've got 3 desktops (me and kids) and a laptop. All run Redhat. Do I have to buy subscriptions for each (I do with RedHat) That's $400/yr just to auto update my packages? I hate dependency problems as much as the next guy but that's nuts.
I agree with the poster - I'll be doing my upgrades overnight and send Ximian what I feel is fair value for the desktop and the service.
One of the runways at Stewart ends near some trees and there is a road cut through those trees along the edge of the airport. YOu can't see the runway from the road. One time I was driving along on a sunny day when everything went dark. One of the C5's had just taken off - the thing was so low it looked like it was skimming the trees, and it flew right over us. Seeing something that large fly right over you at a low altitude is amazing - it startled me so much to this day I can't believe I stayed on the road.
But you take my post out of context. This whole story is about home users that use VPN to access work - not branch offices synching SQL DBs. A branch office SHOULD pay business class rates - fine. But few if any home users using VPN to log into work are going to do bandwidth intensive stuff. Yes, some will - some ALWAYS do, but in most cases the bandwidth usage is light - trust me - I managed a remote access group - our problem was never bandwidth for connected users - it was just the sheer # of users who wanted to be logged in at one time - but the traffic going into and out of the RA network was light even at our concetration point.
I've got a VPN switch at my house to I can tunnel in from work if necessary - nuff said :) I have friends who tunnel in as well to access files on my box. So yes there are some folks who use VPN to do non business stuff. VPN is not some magic thing that requires business class service - hell you can use it (varely) over dialup. This is just an attempt to get more $$$ for the SAME service. Sur e- business class accounts might get better QOS - but obviously the folks using VPN from home DON'T NEED IT. Otherwise they woudl already have business class accounts. So don't rationalize this by saying they get more - they don't need it - they just need Internet access to get into work networks from home from time to time - its a total waste of money otherwise. Business class accounts are for businesses to access the net from their place of business.
Bull. Show me stats - real stats that back this up. Residential users actually use more bandwidth than a business user @ home ever would. Gnutella, Browsing heavy graphical sites, etc. Most business users use VPN to check .... email. Maybe access a file server but how many files will they work on at once?
This is typical telco mindset being applied by cable companies - jack up business rates for the same service you provide to homes since you lose money on residential service. Then try to get as many folks on business lines as possible. Same thing happened with dial up - telcos wanted us to have business lines for hoem dialup users into our corporate networks - and we did - why? The IT managers wanted 'business class' support on these lines to get problems fixed faster - like it was gonna shut the company down if manager X couldn't dial in from home on his 2nd phone line and the telco hadn't committed to having it fixed by X hours. (um - what about the first)
I chuckle at all the ISP issues out there - just like banks - the bigger monoliths screw you while you get GREAT service and such from smaller ones. My ISP is a mom/pop phone company that got bought by another company that specialized in running mom/pops. We have excellent service (DSL), great rates, and they are pretty laid back about how you use it (no blocks - not even port 25, etc)
Nope - from XM's customer agreement:
That's $30 a month - no way in the world am I paying that - sorry.