The allowedness of dogs (fictional) and otherwise, or people, and the encompassing nature of certain sigs are certainly complicated things; perhaps superficially ugly, or at least plain. But they may also belie a quixotic universe of complexity. They are the product of not just the stated, but the implied, inferred and unexplored. The most perceptive truths and funniest jokes by their elemental nature aren't things everyone can share in. But for those who do so share, they are a joy. For they know that, in a small way, they have stretched across their small corner of the universe to truly touch the mind of another.
Also Lupus Yonderboy flaming the Doctress Neutropia in the style of the Adam West Batman TV Show is funny.
Actually I think God started appearing on coins immediatly following the civil war, if I'm not mistaken. Telling that it took not only the passing of a century between the nations founding, but a war that nearly destroyed it, before those words could find their way to government endorsment.
I happen to find the "e pluribus unum" a more useful, and even poignant sentiment. That more than any magic guy in the sky is america's strength.
Get a koolance solution. It's not even necessarily DIY anymore.
I'd say, find a mom and pop shop where they don't come off as used car salesmen, and see what they can hook you up with. Assuming you don't want to build it yourself.
In a way it's actually a pretty insightful observation, even if the person making it isn't terribly insightful.
People aren't pissed of at microsoft. They're pissed off at the unintuitive complexity of software solutions. While, in most instances, there are probably a lot of good reasons for the complexity, there still is something to be said for asking the question. The failures in addressing that particular issue or even in explaining failings to the layman, are a pretty serious knock on computer science in general.
I think what was so amusingly unfunny about the whole thing is that the pledge sans, under god, was written by someone with standing in the church. He knew that government and religion were not chocolate and peanut butter, and should be kept seperate; for the protection of the faithful, as well as the secular.
It took souless whoring politicians to go where clergy feared to tred. "If we add, 'Under God' to the pledge of allegiance, then not only will we keep kids of drugs, we'll defeat the commie bastards in a way that rampant consumerism never will!"
I don't think the pledge itself offered much in the way of indoctrination. The effectiveness of such social policies, both cold war and current, might stem more from the uniformity of the message from seemingly different sources as opposed to the daily ritual. Kids probably don't recognize and treat it with the same seriousness adults do, and with good reason.
See once your "work" gets thrown out into the wild like that, especially if it becomes a treasured part of people's experience, it's not really all yours anymore. You still created it, but now it's soul belongs to the people that embraced it.
The prequels are not Star Wars, and depending on how things turn out, their game might or might not be Bard's Tale.
A name is just a name. Would any pile of crap by the name of "a rose" not smell as foul?
On one of the Crazy Box challenges I was trying to open for a friend who had the game, I was pushed past even the limits of self control instilled by the Ninja Gaiden games.
After picking up all the people from all over the board, behind all the obsticals, and making the tremendous jump, and navigating the narrow, windy, unlevel, flanked by the seemingly omnipresent bottomless pits, I reached the goal with my precious time slipping away. With time left the guys started piling out of my taxi. As the last turns to give me a high five for a job well done, the clock hits zero, and a giant "FAILED" assaults the center of the screen. In that moment, I understood the kind of white hot burning anger that can only be depicted in Warner Brothers cartoons, and Hulk comic books.
Wouldn't you then run the risk of a dual use machine like a PDA or a laptop bringing in a worm and crushing the soft pink nakked interior of the network within your boarders?
And wasn't security by wishful thinking the impetus for the problem to begin with?
Yeah not really. The Real Ghostbusters episode "No One Comes To Lupusville" will answer many of those "points". (need real player) Seems like White Wolf's stuff is just as derivative as anything that comes out of hollywood.
The episode of The Real Ghostbusters I mentioned featured was not a simple versus, but a full on secret war with many werewolves vs. many vampires.
Appearently, it's called No One Comes To Lupusville and if you've got real player installed, you can even watch it there. Definately an underrated cartoon series.
What exactly are the similarities? When I saw trailers for the movie, it looked like a tech-noir incarnation of a The Real Ghostbusters episode with an obligitory romantic subplot.
There certainly was some supposition on my part. But it involves China, a planned economy, japan is somewhat given to protectionist measures itself....
But your measurment is just as questionable isn't it? What exactly are we counting OEM and retail sales? Do servers, and corporate desktops count? Surveys of webservers? Instances of virtual machines on top of the line IBM hardware? Routers? Smart routers?
10% is definately what I would consider a lower bound.
It seems to me, that the role of government is to make sure resources are available enabling the market to function. There are plenty of choices, with, if I might be so bold, a plurality of Slashdot readers considering Microsoft the worst choice available. The fact that an overwhelming majority people chose microsoft in no way suggests the ever expanding list of ever improving canidates is somehow critically inadaquate.
I think a lot of the more vocal supporters here sometimes forget that for most people a computer isn't a toy or a workbench, but a tool who's sole function is to save time, and that any computer that consumes time is a failure.
Wow, spam to a hotmail account, that is a novel idea. I've never even heard of someone doing something like that. I mean the audacity of someone to send all commercial and general public correspondance to one place, and use the filters to allow specifc email, like amazon and slashdot and sort them into folders on an account, which happens to be portable, so when one moves and changes cable systems, it stays the same, it's just so, wait, practical. But that's aside from the fact that it was one of the few emails you could use with nextels back when they were first web enabled. (And I got modded down for flamebaiting?)
Microsoft's most significant threat apart from collusion by foriegne governments* is the next microsoft, ibm, intel, halogen. The next killer patented app that everyone has got to have. Hell, from people gushing about OS X on slashdot, one might think apple was nearing the cusp of just such a position.
Let's be clear about what you're supporting. You and the wunderkin geniuses of slashdot are in large part advocating:
1) Governments, like the US for instance a ~10 to 14 trillion dollar GDP should enter industries, as a government as opposed to a source of capital. 2)They should use that vast reserve of cash to produce a product and dump it into the market of that country (or hell continent/hemisphere) 3) They should do so with the express purpose of excluding companies from other regions from that regions market.
Drop me a line, I'm interested to find out how that workers paradise stuff will work out.
A vernture capital firm backing the next big thing(TM) be it wonder OS or otherwise probably isn't going to face much pressure from someone like Microsoft while they nurture the flegling economic powerhouse, and unlikely to sell cheap.
It's impressive how little you know about microsoft in general. They're just the evil empire, but have you taken advantage of any of the projects offered up by people at microsoft research? Universe on the desktop, hey Microsoft people are helping with federating that data! Building the best telescope in the world, connecting it to the internet, and viola everyone can be a profesional star gazer. How about free photo shop and paint shop pro plugins, and help to write your own in haskell? Naw. They're evil and only care about money.
Clue: All companies care about money. Most companies care about image. And those that have a lot of the first invest a lot in the second. This usually translates to free stuff if you know where to ask. The fact is, you're a kid, who doesn't know an better, but can preach to the converted of slashdot, and most importantly in the VAST minority. Seriously, the fact that you thought your best examples were economies utterly annhilated by war with the governments at the time putting money into rebuilding heavy industry, and the role of government in taxing expensive behaviors tells me a lot about how little you've thought about this particular development.
You do make a good point about the cost of buying in to an industry. To bad the barrier for entry into the software industry is pretty cheap.
A cartel of governments with an annual GDP in the 5 trillion range producing an OS with the intent of "compeating" with a company in the neighborhood of a thousand times smaller is not the free market. They should innovate. Small business loads, grad students. But ultimately governments making software isn't a whole lot better than governments making airplanes or computer chips. Microsoft does have a case. And they probably should get the US to go to step up to the plate, especially considering how little of the MS software in use throughout asia was paid for.
Yeah, but how many people actually make use of that even now? Before MSDS they could still look up toxicity, it was much more difficult of course, but if you don't know what it does, but it's a solvent or heavy metal, seems like it'd be worth looking into. I'm not even guessing at the ignorance, my money is big on the apathy.
Yeah, that works for swim goggles for me, but not my lab goggles. It was a problem in college when I had to use HF. That always made me a just little nervous. (I'm also kinda clumsy) It is surprising how blasie one can become around horrible chemicals. HF was the only one that kept making me nervous.
But I've gotta imagine if I somehow managed to shatter a jug of 1 Ph HCl it wouldn't take long for the fumes to mess me up. I always tried to closely follow standards, but even at a university, there were rules, and practices. It wasn't uncommon to see unlabled beakers with a sign that just said don't touch, and some illegible initials. I can't imagine what the standards might fall to in an enviroment where everyone knows each other, and many have been doing this for decade+ after they got comfortable with "Don't Touch" and "Mine".
I don't even know if Osha can solve stuff like that. No one hated Osha more than the insturment makers. They had giant posters ridiculing osha policies (the Osha version of a Cowboy comes to mind). They knew what they were doing, and like the way they did it. (It's worth noting these guys weren't shop teachers. They'd been doing it more, better, longer, and had all their fingers.)
A) Can't always stop it. B) Powerful solvents are rarely good for you. Same for heavy metals. C) Not everyone read MSDS like they should. D) Proper saftey gear can be very uncomfortable and unwieldy, esspecially if it's fitted correctly. (I fog up goggles like you can't believe, even when I put anti-fog crap in them.) E) Stress can accelerate cancer.
I got kicked off of Enworld, for making a south park reference. I could have been mad about that I suppose, but it was so funny. They objected to the phrase "Hippie Joo" (Eric spells it in the ladder to heaven episode iirc). They thought either Jews didn't want to be called hippies or hippies objected to being called jews. Even though they said they suspected I was joking, they thought it was too over the top, and they didn't want to risk offending anyone's delicate sensibilities. Religion being such a touchy subject. Well that's what the way it was explained by a guy emailing me from an email address containing a "666."
The boundries of any complex system are, err should be, expected to be quirky. Ascii pic's of colonoscopy, fp's, posts of linked stories with serrupticiously added sexual references modded to +5 informative, moderator wars breading posts with 20+ mods. One can consider them tedious obsticals judging them by what one wishes they might be, or just take them for what they are (delightful eccentricities).
Ultimately, normal isn't just boring, in excess it's also pretty abnormal.
I wonder if any universities have tried to write a distributed computing app along the lines of seti. Require it to connect to the university network, it grabs itself maybe 50 megs of hd space, and a fraction of all the new computers people bring to campus, in addition to all the computer lab gear belong to their massive number crunching problems. Make another version available to alumni, or even institutions as some form of corporate sponsorship.
Then if it got popular, and they were really clever, they could sell off a part of that computational power they amassed to solve other peoples problems providing for funding for new versions and new supercomputing clusters.
The grant money that flows into a public research and occasionally teaching institution can be stagering, and absolutely dwarf the money students pay in tuition (sometimes by a factor of 10!). A better question might be, why don't the gradstudents donating their labor, possibly to patents that will be controlled by the university, recieve more consideration, and fair labor law protections.
But I would bet this will be not too dissimilar in use from the HP Itanium2 referenced earlier on slashdot. I would bet one of the paramount concerns this cluster would look at is the effect of farm runoff, and probably climatology too among other things.
Slashdot Mirror
The allowedness of dogs (fictional) and otherwise, or people, and the encompassing nature of certain sigs are certainly complicated things; perhaps superficially ugly, or at least plain. But they may also belie a quixotic universe of complexity. They are the product of not just the stated, but the implied, inferred and unexplored. The most perceptive truths and funniest jokes by their elemental nature aren't things everyone can share in. But for those who do so share, they are a joy. For they know that, in a small way, they have stretched across their small corner of the universe to truly touch the mind of another.
Also Lupus Yonderboy flaming the Doctress Neutropia in the style of the Adam West Batman TV Show is funny.
Between lables, filters and searching, gmails a pretty decent replacement for BBDB and emacs.
Make them into a sculpture of the Goatse.cx guy and leave it on Spielberg's driveway with a big bow around it?
Actually I think God started appearing on coins immediatly following the civil war, if I'm not mistaken. Telling that it took not only the passing of a century between the nations founding, but a war that nearly destroyed it, before those words could find their way to government endorsment.
I happen to find the "e pluribus unum" a more useful, and even poignant sentiment. That more than any magic guy in the sky is america's
strength.
You know, I still have my Apple II GS. It's actually boxed up in my computer room waiting for me to figure out what to do with it.
Get a koolance solution. It's not even necessarily DIY anymore.
I'd say, find a mom and pop shop where they don't come off as used car salesmen, and see what they can hook you up with. Assuming you don't want to build it yourself.
In a way it's actually a pretty insightful observation, even if the person making it isn't terribly insightful.
People aren't pissed of at microsoft. They're pissed off at the unintuitive complexity of software solutions. While, in most instances, there are probably a lot of good reasons for the complexity, there still is something to be said for asking the question. The failures in addressing that particular issue or even in explaining failings to the layman, are a pretty serious knock on computer science in general.
I think what was so amusingly unfunny about the whole thing is that the pledge sans, under god, was written by someone with standing in the church. He knew that government and religion were not chocolate and peanut butter, and should be kept seperate; for the protection of the faithful, as well as the secular.
It took souless whoring politicians to go where clergy feared to tred. "If we add, 'Under God' to the pledge of allegiance, then not only will we keep kids of drugs, we'll defeat the commie bastards in a way that rampant consumerism never will!"
I don't think the pledge itself offered much in the way of indoctrination. The effectiveness of such social policies, both cold war and current, might stem more from the uniformity of the message from seemingly different sources as opposed to the daily ritual. Kids probably don't recognize and treat it with the same seriousness adults do, and with good reason.
See once your "work" gets thrown out into the wild like that, especially if it becomes a treasured part of people's experience, it's not really all yours anymore. You still created it, but now it's soul belongs to the people that embraced it.
The prequels are not Star Wars, and depending on how things turn out, their game might or might not be Bard's Tale.
A name is just a name. Would any pile of crap by the name of "a rose" not smell as foul?
Based of old Diku code, and popular back in the day. Still well maintained, nice peoples, fun stuff.
However, I can't mud, it's like alcoholism or something. I'm fine with it so long as I never do it.
Still a great mud. Don't take my word for it, ask google
Official MadROM Page: http://gq.cyberhqz.com/%7Emadrom/
MadROM Photo Gallery: http://www.amicrazy.com/cgi-bin/madrom.pl
MadROM MudClient page: http://gq.cyberhqz.com/cgi-bin/madclients.cgi
On one of the Crazy Box challenges I was trying to open for a friend who had the game, I was pushed past even the limits of self control instilled by the Ninja Gaiden games.
After picking up all the people from all over the board, behind all the obsticals, and making the tremendous jump, and navigating the narrow, windy, unlevel, flanked by the seemingly omnipresent bottomless pits, I reached the goal with my precious time slipping away. With time left the guys started piling out of my taxi. As the last turns to give me a high five for a job well done, the clock hits zero, and a giant "FAILED" assaults the center of the screen. In that moment, I understood the kind of white hot burning anger that can only be depicted in Warner Brothers cartoons, and Hulk comic books.
Wouldn't you then run the risk of a dual use machine like a PDA or a laptop bringing in a worm and crushing the soft pink nakked interior of the network within your boarders?
And wasn't security by wishful thinking the impetus for the problem to begin with?
Yeah not really. The Real Ghostbusters episode "No One Comes To Lupusville" will answer many of those "points". (need real player) Seems like White Wolf's stuff is just as derivative as anything that comes out of hollywood.
The episode of The Real Ghostbusters I mentioned featured was not a simple versus, but a full on secret war with many werewolves vs. many vampires.
Appearently, it's called No One Comes To Lupusville and if you've got real player installed, you can even watch it there. Definately an underrated cartoon series.
What exactly are the similarities? When I saw trailers for the movie, it looked like a tech-noir incarnation of a The Real Ghostbusters episode with an obligitory romantic subplot.
There certainly was some supposition on my part. But it involves China, a planned economy, japan is somewhat given to protectionist measures itself....
But your measurment is just as questionable isn't it? What exactly are we counting OEM and retail sales? Do servers, and corporate desktops count? Surveys of webservers? Instances of virtual machines on top of the line IBM hardware? Routers? Smart routers?
10% is definately what I would consider a lower bound.
It seems to me, that the role of government is to make sure resources are available enabling the market to function. There are plenty of choices, with, if I might be so bold, a plurality of Slashdot readers considering Microsoft the worst choice available. The fact that an overwhelming majority people chose microsoft in no way suggests the ever expanding list of ever improving canidates is somehow critically inadaquate.
I think a lot of the more vocal supporters here sometimes forget that for most people a computer isn't a toy or a workbench, but a tool who's sole function is to save time, and that any computer that consumes time is a failure.
Wow, spam to a hotmail account, that is a novel idea. I've never even heard of someone doing something like that. I mean the audacity of someone to send all commercial and general public correspondance to one place, and use the filters to allow specifc email, like amazon and slashdot and sort them into folders on an account, which happens to be portable, so when one moves and changes cable systems, it stays the same, it's just so, wait, practical. But that's aside from the fact that it was one of the few emails you could use with nextels back when they were first web enabled. (And I got modded down for flamebaiting?)
Microsoft's most significant threat apart from collusion by foriegne governments* is the next microsoft, ibm, intel, halogen. The next killer patented app that everyone has got to have. Hell, from people gushing about OS X on slashdot, one might think apple was nearing the cusp of just such a position.
Let's be clear about what you're supporting. You and the wunderkin geniuses of slashdot are in large part advocating:
1) Governments, like the US for instance a ~10 to 14 trillion dollar GDP should enter industries, as a government as opposed to a source of capital.
2)They should use that vast reserve of cash to produce a product and dump it into the market of that country (or hell continent/hemisphere)
3) They should do so with the express purpose of excluding companies from other regions from that regions market.
Drop me a line, I'm interested to find out how that workers paradise stuff will work out.
A vernture capital firm backing the next big thing(TM) be it wonder OS or otherwise probably isn't going to face much pressure from someone like Microsoft while they nurture the flegling economic powerhouse, and unlikely to sell cheap.
It's impressive how little you know about microsoft in general. They're just the evil empire, but have you taken advantage of any of the projects offered up by people at microsoft research? Universe on the desktop, hey Microsoft people are helping with federating that data! Building the best telescope in the world, connecting it to the internet, and viola everyone can be a profesional star gazer. How about free photo shop and paint shop pro plugins, and help to write your own in haskell? Naw. They're evil and only care about money.
Clue: All companies care about money. Most companies care about image. And those that have a lot of the first invest a lot in the second. This usually translates to free stuff if you know where to ask. The fact is, you're a kid, who doesn't know an better, but can preach to the converted of slashdot, and most importantly in the VAST minority. Seriously, the fact that you thought your best examples were economies utterly annhilated by war with the governments at the time putting money into rebuilding heavy industry, and the role of government in taxing expensive behaviors tells me a lot about how little you've thought about this particular development.
You do make a good point about the cost of buying in to an industry. To bad the barrier for entry into the software industry is pretty cheap.
A cartel of governments with an annual GDP in the 5 trillion range producing an OS with the intent of "compeating" with a company in the neighborhood of a thousand times smaller is not the free market. They should innovate. Small business loads, grad students. But ultimately governments making software isn't a whole lot better than governments making airplanes or computer chips. Microsoft does have a case. And they probably should get the US to go to step up to the plate, especially considering how little of the MS software in use throughout asia was paid for.
Yeah, but how many people actually make use of that even now? Before MSDS they could still look up toxicity, it was much more difficult of course, but if you don't know what it does, but it's a solvent or heavy metal, seems like it'd be worth looking into. I'm not even guessing at the ignorance, my money is big on the apathy.
Yeah, that works for swim goggles for me, but not my lab goggles. It was a problem in college when I had to use HF. That always made me a just little nervous. (I'm also kinda clumsy) It is surprising how blasie one can become around horrible chemicals. HF was the only one that kept making me nervous.
But I've gotta imagine if I somehow managed to shatter a jug of 1 Ph HCl it wouldn't take long for the fumes to mess me up. I always tried to closely follow standards, but even at a university, there were rules, and practices. It wasn't uncommon to see unlabled beakers with a sign that just said don't touch, and some illegible initials. I can't imagine what the standards might fall to in an enviroment where everyone knows each other, and many have been doing this for decade+ after they got comfortable with "Don't Touch" and "Mine".
I don't even know if Osha can solve stuff like that. No one hated Osha more than the insturment makers. They had giant posters ridiculing osha policies (the Osha version of a Cowboy comes to mind). They knew what they were doing, and like the way they did it. (It's worth noting these guys weren't shop teachers. They'd been doing it more, better, longer, and had all their fingers.)
A) Can't always stop it.
B) Powerful solvents are rarely good for you. Same for heavy metals.
C) Not everyone read MSDS like they should.
D) Proper saftey gear can be very uncomfortable and unwieldy, esspecially if it's fitted correctly. (I fog up goggles like you can't believe, even when I put anti-fog crap in them.)
E) Stress can accelerate cancer.
I got kicked off of Enworld, for making a south park reference. I could have been mad about that I suppose, but it was so funny. They objected to the phrase "Hippie Joo" (Eric spells it in the ladder to heaven episode iirc). They thought either Jews didn't want to be called hippies or hippies objected to being called jews. Even though they said they suspected I was joking, they thought it was too over the top, and they didn't want to risk offending anyone's delicate sensibilities. Religion being such a touchy subject. Well that's what the way it was explained by a guy emailing me from an email address containing a "666."
The boundries of any complex system are, err should be, expected to be quirky. Ascii pic's of colonoscopy, fp's, posts of linked stories with serrupticiously added sexual references modded to +5 informative, moderator wars breading posts with 20+ mods. One can consider them tedious obsticals judging them by what one wishes they might be, or just take them for what they are (delightful eccentricities).
Ultimately, normal isn't just boring, in excess it's also pretty abnormal.
I was under the impression that there were seti@home clients available for linux and macs.
I wonder if any universities have tried to write a distributed computing app along the lines of seti. Require it to connect to the university network, it grabs itself maybe 50 megs of hd space, and a fraction of all the new computers people bring to campus, in addition to all the computer lab gear belong to their massive number crunching problems. Make another version available to alumni, or even institutions as some form of corporate sponsorship.
Then if it got popular, and they were really clever, they could sell off a part of that computational power they amassed to solve other peoples problems providing for funding for new versions and new supercomputing clusters.
The grant money that flows into a public research and occasionally teaching institution can be stagering, and absolutely dwarf the money students pay in tuition (sometimes by a factor of 10!). A better question might be, why don't the gradstudents donating their labor, possibly to patents that will be controlled by the university, recieve more consideration, and fair labor law protections.
But I would bet this will be not too dissimilar in use from the HP Itanium2 referenced earlier on slashdot. I would bet one of the paramount concerns this cluster would look at is the effect of farm runoff, and probably climatology too among other things.