Really considering the economic damage that crimes like embezzling and worm authoring do, I would definately call that treason. And if they could prove the do'er. Kill'em. I don't care about it as a deterent.
I think gamers in particular are resistant to that sort of marketing. Not that there isn't brand loyalty, but for gamers where it appears it seems to be a particularly intense zealotry. In the form of "Brand X can do no wrong. Your ACME brand games & console, and your mother all eat my bung! PS -- You might not recognize your mom, I shaved her back."
And the gamers who don't pitch their tent in any specific camp, seem to go by what looks best/plays best/or has the best story. I'm sure this is related to building a new game library from scratch with every new generation (yes I know about the playstation, but the people I know with sony gear, don't really play the older titles, and in fact tend to sell them or trade them in.)
Diamonds are a) brittle* and b) shaped against each other, its called "rounding" if I recall.
*There is a substantial difference between strong and tough, metals aren't particularly strong, but they are tough, so inspite of their typically high densities, we still prefer them. We can trust how they fail, and many times when they will.
Interesting idea, but I don't think a slashdot version of Bass Masters will work. Everyone has their two bits worth of karma. How could the tournement be scored? While an eleven hundred way tie might be fine by the hard core open source zealots, I think the rest of us would find it anti-climactic.
Al Franken. I hear he has a book coming out (HAHA).
Worth noting, that until Rupert Murdoc decided to become an american citicen, it was one more thing to blame on the Australians. Hell, FOX was all about white trash. It's like Demi Moore, it comes from a trailer park, cleans up nice, and spends most of it's time hoping you'll forget its ignoble beginings.
What I'm curious about is how Euro's recieve the Daily Show. Supposedly CNN International sandwiches it in between real news programs at some ungodly hour. There's a good chance a part of that Euro audiance doesn't realize it's parody.
I originally wasn't going to respond to this. But it's interesting, your comment. Not to rub salt, but just well, the compliment that it was to every engineer.
They're pretty much the pre-eminent tool makers. But really engineering is all about failing, and hopefully doing so in a controlled manner. And every thing they do is, in a way doomed, and they know it. Nothing last for ever, the tools included. But when someone busts out, with "it can't be the tool it must be the user" (rightly or otherwise) it's an enourmous compliment. It's quite an achivement for a group of people to have their work thought so well of. (Lawyers? Dentists anyone?)
I have to say, it is pretty nice, almost never having to think twice about the tools:). Even if every once in a blue moon that means a little extra disappointment.
Ok, since I'm something of a neophyte, I'm going to show my ignorance and ask, what are the big differences between *BSD and linux. I know they're related. I've been under the impression that they share a relatively wide variety of software. With BSD being thought of as more stable, and linux a little more flashy with some of the software, like wine x, available for it.
When the new genereation of UDMA 66 drives came out (iirc), appearently lilo wasn't ready, if I had a 33, it would have been happy. It was one of those things after the fact, so, I go with lilo, it all looks ok, then the next step of the install mysteriously craps out, so I go to boot into windows to do some email, check out some documentation etc. And that crapped out too. Fortunately, the disk utilites that came with the harddrive did a nice job of planning for just such an emergency. But it was annoying. Turns out that this was a known problem with lilo at the time, but mandrake thought it'd be best to try to bury it, as opposed to prominently mention it.
Tools are far from perfect. And they occasionally fail, even when used as intented.
I'm actually looking to toy around with Linux some. I'd prefer it be easy to install, support a decent array of hardware, and be as painless as possible to gussy up KDE, or Gnome 2.
From what I've seen in discussions like this, is a slight plurality to redhat. (Last time I tried it, that crappy lilo bootloader munged my, not exactly spanking, new harddrive's mbr, preventing a dual boot setup.)
Worthless as an industrial product, yes. Worthless as a teaching example, that we can use our considerable tool making prowess to expand on? Not by a long shot.
The Mariners would ask people wearing "Yankees Suck" T-shirts (and I'm not kidding) to take them off or leave. Pussies. That wasn't an isolated incident, it was acctually a policy. I seem to remember people interviewed by the news crews to be additionally agrivated because they were just out the money (if it was the only shirt they had).
I remember hearing about one guy who lost his season tickets for reselling one game on ebay, the first game he missed in more than a decade.
Overall the NFL is just a bitch organization, and is in desperate need of frequent and severe legal smackdowns in probably every market over a number of issues, and I can't say how much of it involves them as opposed to the individual teams.
Well you can't get far trying to defend the dialogue alone in the first Star Wars. But there are a lot of things that the movie did capitalize on, and I'm convinced by accident. Not the least of which the ability to seriously contemplate the end of our spiecies (deathstar), the promise of what was over the next horizion we appeared ready to take our first steps towards (space. I was a little kid at the time too), the yerning for a better life and not knowing how to get there (luke stuck on his dirtball dreaming of a better life), the idea that one can be inately special and that will shine through when the opportunity appears.... The ancient universal hopes mixed with the new fears and setting, with acting better than the movie deserved carried the day and made it what it was.
But if I was going to blame anything it wouldn't be star wars or even jaws or jurassic park movies far more about playing with an emotion than teling a story.
The way the system is set up now there is little incentive to produce a long running movie. The Studios get all the money from the first few weeks, and progressively less the longer a movie lingers. While it still enhances the bottem line, a great movie that people love earns studios more bragging rights than dollars. So why should we be surprised that they're all about turnover? It is, after all, what we're really paying them for. New product as opposed to quality product. (I'm as bad an offender as anyone, in a given year I average a night out at the movies somewhere between every week and every two weeks).
But short of a theater chain billionaire deciding to set up his own movie studio, and then dictating a new my way or the highway approach to sharing ticket revenues, to which his movie studio immediately agrees, or FTC involvement, I don't see much chance for change. In either case the way would be paved with lawsuits, lies and tears.
In Lucas' book, Skywalking IIRC, a snippet of a conversation between Han an Leia in the Millenium Falcon in The Empire Strikes Back is provided. And DAMN! How did such a dumbass get a job making movies. It's not bad soap opera, it's not even bad mexican soap opera, it's other worldly bad.
You're forgetting game shows. I'm betting it'll be at least until after we've beaten the Zentradi that computers will routinely be competative with humans at idol singing.
Aki Ross might have done ok on Hot Or Not, but there were two gay guys and a chick. And before someone says Larenzo Lamas isn't gay, I'd like to point out that while formerly married to a former playmate there's no proof of sex, and he did wear a neckerchief, in public no less.
Well I can't say for certain with theaters, but I know those ticket clauses hold up pretty well for sporting events. People have lost season tickets for violating them. And I've been to enough football games with drunk people to know that once the stadium staff asks you to go, you go or they get the cops to haul you off. And they will, and there's not going to be much in the way of discussion.
There certainly does need to be some way of handling people who make pests of themselves, and one would certainly hope it's not abused to disuede dissent in those with legitimate gripes. Ticket clauses at least for now seem to do alright for the most part.
I think he acctually comes close to the mark without knowing it though.
What made movies great, were the limitations, and the cleverness that had to be employed to tell the story inspite of those. In the case of movies made today, with the capabilities of computer graphics, the limit is really, cycles, money and imagination. If you've got the coin, then if you can think it, you can see it. With all that choice, it's easy to lose sight of the real aim, telling the story. The crappy animatronic shark in jaws, and its notorious unreliablity being one example. A swift look at the Star Wars prequel making of features makes this painfully appearent. (Not that Lucas has any ability at all to tell a decent story anymore) But look at all the time, money and effort manipulating crap in the computer that not only added nothing in any way to the story, not only would have certainly gone unnoticed even by people who were in the movie, but could have just been done right the first time anyway.
It probably takes a person with a very special talent for clarity to helm a big budget movie now days. To see their story, and find there way to it undistracted by the innumerable possibilities.
Seriously, you people need to take a look at the back of your ticket stubbs. There's writting there.
Most of mine say something like,
"The Management reserves the
right to refuse admission on this ticket by refunding the purchase price.
Valid on date of sale and time of show only and at theater issued only."
But considering the frequency of comments in the same vein as that I'm responding to, they could put almost anything back there and no one would know. Same goes for sporting events, and anything else where a ticket is involved.
You think the climate of all of Europe getting fucked up won't influence politicians? You think that's not a negative side effect?
Oh yeah. That'll pretty much insure the US's new pro-global warming stance. I just recieved a letter from the IRS telling my that next years tax refund will be in home heating credits which will take the form of old tires and diesel fuel.
BAck in the days of yor, I remember a buddy of mine got his first PC.
He went into the BIOS to tweak some of the settings to enhance game performance for, Pirates, or the Ancient Art of War At Sea or something. Anyone he turned off the video memory. A pretty odd option to have in the BIOS at the time if you ask me.
But it was really funny, because I had an apple II GS (F U apple) which was sweet, and so I was of course ignorant of the ways of the PC. But undaunted I volunteered a "That looks important, I'm not sure you wanna do that." Equally undaunted he saved and exited.
Fortunately, it was one of those very rare moments at that age where the last vestiges of a youthful photographic memory still functioned, and I was able to remember how the bios screen was laid out. I miss that guy. He was a lot of fun.
I here by virtually mod you +1 Funny. You'll have to keep score yourself, sorry.
But slightly more seriously, I think ADD is probably more a former evolutionary norm that humanity might be moving away from. It facilitated one kind of group coordination, where small groups of people had to perform many types of tasks and be open to targets of opportunity. But the larger kind of coordination, and hyper-specialization that we now engage in to make the economy go round finds it a little antiquated. So since we've gone through the trouble of inventing neurochemistry....
But on another level, you're right, Clone High was completely sweet and the only thing worth watching on MTV. Ghandi's struggle with ADD, and nasal fixation, not only made me laugh but gave me hope. Which reminds us of Equilibrium, where if the evil puppet masters decide we all should be medicated, for our own good, we should kill the obviously emotional nazi bastards. And really, why couldn't they have just been a little more consistant within the confines of the story? Gah!
Even when the Seattle economy was doing well. We could count on the yearly suicide rate story to cheer us up in the middle of a ninty day drizzel. We have a lot of serial killers per capita too. I don't think anyone has offered up a causation for that correlation.
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Really considering the economic damage that crimes like embezzling and worm authoring do, I would definately call that treason. And if they could prove the do'er. Kill'em. I don't care about it as a deterent.
At boeing surplus you can buy them for a quarter a shot. And they come pre coffee stained!
I think gamers in particular are resistant to that sort of marketing. Not that there isn't brand loyalty, but for gamers where it appears it seems to be a particularly intense zealotry. In the form of "Brand X can do no wrong. Your ACME brand games & console, and your mother all eat my bung! PS -- You might not recognize your mom, I shaved her back."
And the gamers who don't pitch their tent in any specific camp, seem to go by what looks best/plays best/or has the best story. I'm sure this is related to building a new game library from scratch with every new generation (yes I know about the playstation, but the people I know with sony gear, don't really play the older titles, and in fact tend to sell them or trade them in.)
Diamonds are a) brittle* and b) shaped against each other, its called "rounding" if I recall.
*There is a substantial difference between strong and tough, metals aren't particularly strong, but they are tough, so inspite of their typically high densities, we still prefer them. We can trust how they fail, and many times when they will.
Trolling for Karma whores?
Interesting idea, but I don't think a slashdot version of Bass Masters will work. Everyone has their two bits worth of karma. How could the tournement be scored? While an eleven hundred way tie might be fine by the hard core open source zealots, I think the rest of us would find it anti-climactic.
I don't know anyone that watches it
Al Franken. I hear he has a book coming out (HAHA).
Worth noting, that until Rupert Murdoc decided to become an american citicen, it was one more thing to blame on the Australians. Hell, FOX was all about white trash. It's like Demi Moore, it comes from a trailer park, cleans up nice, and spends most of it's time hoping you'll forget its ignoble beginings.
What I'm curious about is how Euro's recieve the Daily Show. Supposedly CNN International sandwiches it in between real news programs at some ungodly hour. There's a good chance a part of that Euro audiance doesn't realize it's parody.
I originally wasn't going to respond to this. But it's interesting, your comment. Not to rub salt, but just well, the compliment that it was to every engineer.
:). Even if every once in a blue moon that means a little extra disappointment.
They're pretty much the pre-eminent tool makers. But really engineering is all about failing, and hopefully doing so in a controlled manner. And every thing they do is, in a way doomed, and they know it. Nothing last for ever, the tools included. But when someone busts out, with "it can't be the tool it must be the user" (rightly or otherwise) it's an enourmous compliment. It's quite an achivement for a group of people to have their work thought so well of. (Lawyers? Dentists anyone?)
I have to say, it is pretty nice, almost never having to think twice about the tools
Or maybe I'm just reading into things.
Ok, since I'm something of a neophyte, I'm going to show my ignorance and ask, what are the big differences between *BSD and linux. I know they're related. I've been under the impression that they share a relatively wide variety of software. With BSD being thought of as more stable, and linux a little more flashy with some of the software, like wine x, available for it.
Please disabuse me.
When the new genereation of UDMA 66 drives came out (iirc), appearently lilo wasn't ready, if I had a 33, it would have been happy. It was one of those things after the fact, so, I go with lilo, it all looks ok, then the next step of the install mysteriously craps out, so I go to boot into windows to do some email, check out some documentation etc. And that crapped out too. Fortunately, the disk utilites that came with the harddrive did a nice job of planning for just such an emergency. But it was annoying. Turns out that this was a known problem with lilo at the time, but mandrake thought it'd be best to try to bury it, as opposed to prominently mention it.
Tools are far from perfect. And they occasionally fail, even when used as intented.
I'm actually looking to toy around with Linux some. I'd prefer it be easy to install, support a decent array of hardware, and be as painless as possible to gussy up KDE, or Gnome 2.
From what I've seen in discussions like this, is a slight plurality to redhat. (Last time I tried it, that crappy lilo bootloader munged my, not exactly spanking, new harddrive's mbr, preventing a dual boot setup.)
Worthless as an industrial product, yes. Worthless as a teaching example, that we can use our considerable tool making prowess to expand on? Not by a long shot.
Didn't some of the recent quantum gate break throughs come on the former heir appearent to Silicon?
The Mariners would ask people wearing "Yankees Suck" T-shirts (and I'm not kidding) to take them off or leave. Pussies. That wasn't an isolated incident, it was acctually a policy. I seem to remember people interviewed by the news crews to be additionally agrivated because they were just out the money (if it was the only shirt they had).
I remember hearing about one guy who lost his season tickets for reselling one game on ebay, the first game he missed in more than a decade.
Overall the NFL is just a bitch organization, and is in desperate need of frequent and severe legal smackdowns in probably every market over a number of issues, and I can't say how much of it involves them as opposed to the individual teams.
Naw, they are different evils. One was malicious, and the other arrogant. Excecute the first guy, and cane the second.
Well you can't get far trying to defend the dialogue alone in the first Star Wars. But there are a lot of things that the movie did capitalize on, and I'm convinced by accident. Not the least of which the ability to seriously contemplate the end of our spiecies (deathstar), the promise of what was over the next horizion we appeared ready to take our first steps towards (space. I was a little kid at the time too), the yerning for a better life and not knowing how to get there (luke stuck on his dirtball dreaming of a better life), the idea that one can be inately special and that will shine through when the opportunity appears.... The ancient universal hopes mixed with the new fears and setting, with acting better than the movie deserved carried the day and made it what it was.
But if I was going to blame anything it wouldn't be star wars or even jaws or jurassic park movies far more about playing with an emotion than teling a story.
The way the system is set up now there is little incentive to produce a long running movie. The Studios get all the money from the first few weeks, and progressively less the longer a movie lingers. While it still enhances the bottem line, a great movie that people love earns studios more bragging rights than dollars. So why should we be surprised that they're all about turnover? It is, after all, what we're really paying them for. New product as opposed to quality product. (I'm as bad an offender as anyone, in a given year I average a night out at the movies somewhere between every week and every two weeks).
But short of a theater chain billionaire deciding to set up his own movie studio, and then dictating a new my way or the highway approach to sharing ticket revenues, to which his movie studio immediately agrees, or FTC involvement, I don't see much chance for change. In either case the way would be paved with lawsuits, lies and tears.
In Lucas' book, Skywalking IIRC, a snippet of a conversation between Han an Leia in the Millenium Falcon in The Empire Strikes Back is provided. And DAMN! How did such a dumbass get a job making movies. It's not bad soap opera, it's not even bad mexican soap opera, it's other worldly bad.
You're forgetting game shows. I'm betting it'll be at least until after we've beaten the Zentradi that computers will routinely be competative with humans at idol singing.
Aki Ross might have done ok on Hot Or Not, but there were two gay guys and a chick. And before someone says Larenzo Lamas isn't gay, I'd like to point out that while formerly married to a former playmate there's no proof of sex, and he did wear a neckerchief, in public no less.
Well I can't say for certain with theaters, but I know those ticket clauses hold up pretty well for sporting events. People have lost season tickets for violating them. And I've been to enough football games with drunk people to know that once the stadium staff asks you to go, you go or they get the cops to haul you off. And they will, and there's not going to be much in the way of discussion.
There certainly does need to be some way of handling people who make pests of themselves, and one would certainly hope it's not abused to disuede dissent in those with legitimate gripes. Ticket clauses at least for now seem to do alright for the most part.
I think he acctually comes close to the mark without knowing it though.
What made movies great, were the limitations, and the cleverness that had to be employed to tell the story inspite of those. In the case of movies made today, with the capabilities of computer graphics, the limit is really, cycles, money and imagination. If you've got the coin, then if you can think it, you can see it. With all that choice, it's easy to lose sight of the real aim, telling the story. The crappy animatronic shark in jaws, and its notorious unreliablity being one example. A swift look at the Star Wars prequel making of features makes this painfully appearent. (Not that Lucas has any ability at all to tell a decent story anymore) But look at all the time, money and effort manipulating crap in the computer that not only added nothing in any way to the story, not only would have certainly gone unnoticed even by people who were in the movie, but could have just been done right the first time anyway.
It probably takes a person with a very special talent for clarity to helm a big budget movie now days. To see their story, and find there way to it undistracted by the innumerable possibilities.
Most of mine say something like,
But considering the frequency of comments in the same vein as that I'm responding to, they could put almost anything back there and no one would know. Same goes for sporting events, and anything else where a ticket is involved.
Yeah, he's pretty good at that. He's found slashdot's achillies' heel. Short anttention spans and a desire for ever more brief executive summarys.
You would deny the karma whores yet another opportunity to bash Microsoft? What are you some kind of fascist?
You think the climate of all of Europe getting fucked up won't influence politicians? You think that's not a negative side effect?
Oh yeah. That'll pretty much insure the US's new pro-global warming stance. I just recieved a letter from the IRS telling my that next years tax refund will be in home heating credits which will take the form of old tires and diesel fuel.
BAck in the days of yor, I remember a buddy of mine got his first PC.
He went into the BIOS to tweak some of the settings to enhance game performance for, Pirates, or the Ancient Art of War At Sea or something. Anyone he turned off the video memory. A pretty odd option to have in the BIOS at the time if you ask me.
But it was really funny, because I had an apple II GS (F U apple) which was sweet, and so I was of course ignorant of the ways of the PC. But undaunted I volunteered a "That looks important, I'm not sure you wanna do that." Equally undaunted he saved and exited.
Fortunately, it was one of those very rare moments at that age where the last vestiges of a youthful photographic memory still functioned, and I was able to remember how the bios screen was laid out. I miss that guy. He was a lot of fun.
I here by virtually mod you +1 Funny. You'll have to keep score yourself, sorry.
But slightly more seriously, I think ADD is probably more a former evolutionary norm that humanity might be moving away from. It facilitated one kind of group coordination, where small groups of people had to perform many types of tasks and be open to targets of opportunity. But the larger kind of coordination, and hyper-specialization that we now engage in to make the economy go round finds it a little antiquated. So since we've gone through the trouble of inventing neurochemistry....
But on another level, you're right, Clone High was completely sweet and the only thing worth watching on MTV. Ghandi's struggle with ADD, and nasal fixation, not only made me laugh but gave me hope. Which reminds us of Equilibrium, where if the evil puppet masters decide we all should be medicated, for our own good, we should kill the obviously emotional nazi bastards. And really, why couldn't they have just been a little more consistant within the confines of the story? Gah!
Even when the Seattle economy was doing well. We could count on the yearly suicide rate story to cheer us up in the middle of a ninty day drizzel. We have a lot of serial killers per capita too. I don't think anyone has offered up a causation for that correlation.