You can choose a particularly inopportune time, for them, to decide to resolve the issue. With their attention and resources divided, they won't try to fight for long. If you're holding up a ticket line, or arguing with the manager how you bought tickets for such and such a time, and they want to screw you after the fact etc while people are trying to get to the theater, or the snack line, in one of those holiday mobs. Who wants to deal with that, it's just not worth 20 bucks. They have a "customer relations" log, you've got a damn good reason to make them use it.
As others said, the credit card company might either write it off, or make the movie theater do it. Since they were dicks about it, be sure to give the tickets to people who'll use them.
Complain to the company's head quarters, explain how the manager expected a sign after the fact to some how mitigate the company's mistake. I might go so far as to organize a sizable outting of friends to their greatest local competator. I'd take a picture of a large number of happy young people in front of the other companies logo (you don't even have to know the people or even be going to any movie actually), and send them copy with my complaint. Why not offer up a complimentary letter to the other company if all goes well.
Then there are the better business bureau, local chambers of commerce. If you suspect it's happening on a large scale, why not offer up a letter to the office of your state's attorney general. Who's to say it was an accident. Either way, a large corporate bully cheating a great many people out of small amounts of money that aren't practical to fight over is either a job for Batman or Johnny Law. Now that Batman is trying to pull down a crisp $57 per showing Johnny Law is going to have to step up.
But the best might be to pursue it at least far enough that you get a story that ends up funny in some respect. Funny stories are fun to hear, fun to tell, and will provide endless opportunties to bust that companies not so good name. When you've got telling the story down, post it publically. Vault.com, for example. The funny story can even be about the letters, Don Novello style. You could, for instance, write a letter to Mars Candy, or whoever makes M&M's, detailing your horrible movie experience as the reason you can no longer, in good conscience, continue to be one of their valuable customers. Their response may be ammusing, and include coupons for free candy. Because, 20 bucks is 20 bucks. But funny stories, those are forever. Like that time I was attacked by midgets before a showing of Full Metal Jacket, sure at the time I wasn't thrilled, but in retrospect... come on.
It would infringe on my patent for the combination of simple symbols, representing sound parts, into fundemental conceptual building blocks that are then aranged within a formal structure to clearly communicate any and all manner of information. It was granted last week.
I wonder how much I owe AOL in back royalties for all that mudding I did in the 90's?
I'd make the observation that, by your logic, the idea of the FBI keeping files on say.... John Lennon, for instance, should just be accepted as all part of the effort to fight communism. And if an unnamed government source, ala Richard Jewel, accidently leaked, at the height of The Beatles popularity, that Lennon had a particular affinity for child porn, as long as the government prints an official appology on A23 in the smallest italics the intelligence community can afford, it's just part of the price we all must pay.
You sir, are a bonafide optimist. I, however, consider myself more pragmatic. I find myself unable to place my faith in a "higher power", and unwilling to place it, perhaps more precariously, in my fellow man.
Why would Kenneth Lay lie, he's a shareholder too! As an example.
Well if you consider turning the latest american weaponry over to the sworn enemies of The United States, and her people, that might be treason. Which involves a short, yet permanent, prison stay.
Risk implies trust. If our government doesn't trust us, can we trust it? If we do, how much freedom are we risking, and for what?
I think those are significant questions that should be answered, probably in exhaustive detail. But appearently questioning the people who answer to you is offically unamerican (if the insipid talking heads are to be believed). It's vaguely reminiscent of that old McCarthy news reel footage in a way. Which is why I'm not worried. How'd that end up? McCarthy is an american villain, poor ol' J Edgar a joke, MLK a canonized hero Ali a living legend. When the executive branch has detailed records of Justice Thomas's prefered Long Dong Silver rentals, who's knows what kind of civil liberties crusader he'll turn into. He may even regain his powers of speech.
Among other things, Poindexter violated his officers loyalty oath, and helped make it possible for Osama to get some of those Stinger missles. Hardly a saint. He and Ollie, by all rights, should be fighting wild dogs for scraps of meat in urine soaked alleys, but not enough oral sex was involved to warrent much investigation.
If someone came alone tomorrow or in the next decade and figured out a way put people on the moon and make money by putting more people on the moon, he would all but reduce NASA to a footnote. And NASA would have at least directly lead to that innovation.
While Bamboo Johnson's uncontrolled decent into a bush might have been the first one with alerons, his innovation didn't lead to that next big innovation. The proof is that his accomplishment has remained obscure for a century. Sony proved it with Betamax, and Microsoft is built on it. It's not first or best that carries the day, it's popularity. (Which continues to enjoy unprecidented popularity.)
Crashing into bushes has remained relatively unpopular until the birth of Steve-O, who's lead something of a renaissance in the areas of bush crashing and nut stapling. Maybe your local hero will find his richly deserved recognition in that area, in which he appeares to have accomplished much.
Footnote for Einstein: When the president of a superpower is redistributing a significant amount of a planet's resources to build a superweapon based significantly on ideas teased from your intuition, those ideas are officially commercially viable. But why quibble with the facts, when your sarcastic assertions are a little more true, and a little less supportive that you thought.
Science can also be funny. I remember when I was looking up some info on how Nickle-Titanium shape memory alloys work, I came across what I suppose I would describe as "a flame" in Physical Review Letters (B, IIRC). In the somewhat dry and subdued language of well respected journals, one set scientists bagged on the paper written by another set in less than flattering detail.
Hmmm it doesn't seem funny upon my retelling. But maybe the PhD equivalent of "take that pen outta yer ass, 'cause your paper stinks" gets extra points because I just didn't expect it.
I take it you didn't catch the Monday Night Football game where John Madden got all meteorological with the tellistrator. God damn that was so sweet I felt it in my heart.
Yeah too bad natural selection doesn't really apply to human social networks. An observation Darwin himself first made if I'm not mistaken.
Humans protect one another and share resources in innovative ways. The upper management would float away on a cloud of money while the people who weren't at fault find themselves in court tearing at what's left of the looted corporate carcass to get their pensions, 401k's or even just their last paycheck.
Look at Enron. The officers of that company left a swath of destruction so wide it's counted only to the nearest billion. You think Kenny Lay isn't going to be living in a mansion while he sees his kids off to ivy league schools and pulls down huge consulting fees after all is said and done? Christ, Bush is trying to appoint a friendly family friend who's being sued for fraud so he can "bring integrity back to the SEC!"
Appearently, the meaning of integrity has changed a lot over the years.
A funny aside. When I was a frisky metallurgical engineering student back in the day. We were told we had to take an ethics class. And unlike lawyers, we as engineers couldn't afford to pay it lip service. If we cheat, people might well die. In scores. Fair enough, I'd always thought of myself as a pretty ethical person; a trait I can't say has served me well, incidently. If you ever doubt the world is cast in shades of grey, subtle variations of hue, your ethics professor telling you it's ok to lie on your resume will swiftly disabuse you of that notion.
But doesn't the directory design in 2000 let you organize things into nice little containers where you could then delegate responsibilities? And doesn't windows 2000 have a "taskpad" or something, that you could say use the delegation infrastructure to give someone close to the convienent units, embodied in the little containers, the very limited ability of modifying passwords.
I get the distinct impression your employers aren't using the features that come with the very expensive software, that they're buying the very expensive service for. I can't really say whether its a security, or even a software issue. The problem seems obfuscated by significant human resource difficulties.
As an aside, I can't say I'd be opposed to learning what company we're speaking of. I've taken enough of a bath in the market, and this would certainly seem like a good indicator to sell.
I have to say, I find the comment itself about as funny as Sienfeld's stand up (read a flaming puppy), but God damn, put it together with the moderation and it's pretty funny.
There was nothing thought provoking in Solaris. It was pathetic.
It's a tale about a very bad psychologist who failed tragically, publically, and through his own cruelty, who is trusted greatly by people spending billions of dollars, and friends who had to be aware of what he did to his wife.
The film is so riddled with internal inconsistancies, that any mental masturbation Soderbergh wishes to engage in becomes contrived and idiotic.
The Sixth Sense told the same tale better. And more recently The Salton Sea did too.
And then the brutal cliches. Soderbergh is a merciless ass.
If you have to see something Clooney and Soderbergh had a hand in, see Far From Heaven. So good they may just have put up their money.
Solaris is a bad scifi exposition made for idiots who want to think of themselves as smart. Ed Wood couldn't have done it worse.
Their still pretty bad as far as price/performance in laptops. But the desktop I saw was a little over, not too bad, but DAMN pretty. Way prettier than even a nice mac.
And of all places I saw it at Sam's Club. Go figure.
Ok, I understand how someone might not want to be associated with the Klan or especially the Rosie O'Donnel Fan Club. But the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes?
I must say. As entertaining as that particular installment of SNL was. The convention skit, the revolving resturant enterprise. My favorite is and always will be his impression of Ollie North in the Ollie North: The Mute Marine sketch. The fact that Ollie has a job not associated with holding a cardboard sign at highway exits is testimate to the fact that the episode, and skit in particular, is not rerun enough.
That was the only thing I didn't by about that episode of south park. Edwards is such an attention whore, he'd proudly accept a Biggest Douche in the Universe Lifetime Achivement Award. People would be clapping and he'd be on TV.
Who do you think you are to argue with a "Physics Genius"? His finely honned powers of critical thinking, obviously see the problem more accurately than you.
If for some reason he doesn't require any sort of proof to believe that a hairy man ape is plotting against us while perfecting monster dunks so mass rad Darryl Dawkins' nuts will retract themselves and become ovaries, but does require physical proof that something isn't real, THAT'S why he's a genius!
We should just trust him. It's the internet, why would he lie?
I have to say the whole situation surrounding that. I remember an interview with one of the tribal elders where he stated that scientists shouldn't be allowed to study him to figure out where he came from and what kind of life he lived because their oral history made it clear that they were the first, and that there were no others, so he must have been one of them QED.
It's always a tragedy when, esentially, religion pushes science around and prevents us from expanding upon our understanding.
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If they're being dicks to you, be dicks to them.
... come on.
You can choose a particularly inopportune time, for them, to decide to resolve the issue. With their attention and resources divided, they won't try to fight for long. If you're holding up a ticket line, or arguing with the manager how you bought tickets for such and such a time, and they want to screw you after the fact etc while people are trying to get to the theater, or the snack line, in one of those holiday mobs. Who wants to deal with that, it's just not worth 20 bucks. They have a "customer relations" log, you've got a damn good reason to make them use it.
As others said, the credit card company might either write it off, or make the movie theater do it. Since they were dicks about it, be sure to give the tickets to people who'll use them.
Complain to the company's head quarters, explain how the manager expected a sign after the fact to some how mitigate the company's mistake. I might go so far as to organize a sizable outting of friends to their greatest local competator. I'd take a picture of a large number of happy young people in front of the other companies logo (you don't even have to know the people or even be going to any movie actually), and send them copy with my complaint. Why not offer up a complimentary letter to the other company if all goes well.
Then there are the better business bureau, local chambers of commerce. If you suspect it's happening on a large scale, why not offer up a letter to the office of your state's attorney general. Who's to say it was an accident. Either way, a large corporate bully cheating a great many people out of small amounts of money that aren't practical to fight over is either a job for Batman or Johnny Law. Now that Batman is trying to pull down a crisp $57 per showing Johnny Law is going to have to step up.
But the best might be to pursue it at least far enough that you get a story that ends up funny in some respect. Funny stories are fun to hear, fun to tell, and will provide endless opportunties to bust that companies not so good name. When you've got telling the story down, post it publically. Vault.com, for example. The funny story can even be about the letters, Don Novello style. You could, for instance, write a letter to Mars Candy, or whoever makes M&M's, detailing your horrible movie experience as the reason you can no longer, in good conscience, continue to be one of their valuable customers. Their response may be ammusing, and include coupons for free candy. Because, 20 bucks is 20 bucks. But funny stories, those are forever. Like that time I was attacked by midgets before a showing of Full Metal Jacket, sure at the time I wasn't thrilled, but in retrospect
It would infringe on my patent for the combination of simple symbols, representing sound parts, into fundemental conceptual building blocks that are then aranged within a formal structure to clearly communicate any and all manner of information. It was granted last week.
I wonder how much I owe AOL in back royalties for all that mudding I did in the 90's?
I'd make the observation that, by your logic, the idea of the FBI keeping files on say .... John Lennon, for instance, should just be accepted as all part of the effort to fight communism. And if an unnamed government source, ala Richard Jewel, accidently leaked, at the height of The Beatles popularity, that Lennon had a particular affinity for child porn, as long as the government prints an official appology on A23 in the smallest italics the intelligence community can afford, it's just part of the price we all must pay.
You sir, are a bonafide optimist. I, however, consider myself more pragmatic. I find myself unable to place my faith in a "higher power", and unwilling to place it, perhaps more precariously, in my fellow man.
Why would Kenneth Lay lie, he's a shareholder too! As an example.
Well if you consider turning the latest american weaponry over to the sworn enemies of The United States, and her people, that might be treason. Which involves a short, yet permanent, prison stay.
Risk implies trust. If our government doesn't trust us, can we trust it? If we do, how much freedom are we risking, and for what?
I think those are significant questions that should be answered, probably in exhaustive detail. But appearently questioning the people who answer to you is offically unamerican (if the insipid talking heads are to be believed). It's vaguely reminiscent of that old McCarthy news reel footage in a way. Which is why I'm not worried. How'd that end up? McCarthy is an american villain, poor ol' J Edgar a joke, MLK a canonized hero Ali a living legend. When the executive branch has detailed records of Justice Thomas's prefered Long Dong Silver rentals, who's knows what kind of civil liberties crusader he'll turn into. He may even regain his powers of speech.
Among other things, Poindexter violated his officers loyalty oath, and helped make it possible for Osama to get some of those Stinger missles. Hardly a saint. He and Ollie, by all rights, should be fighting wild dogs for scraps of meat in urine soaked alleys, but not enough oral sex was involved to warrent much investigation.
You totally shoot yourself in the foot.
If someone came alone tomorrow or in the next decade and figured out a way put people on the moon and make money by putting more people on the moon, he would all but reduce NASA to a footnote. And NASA would have at least directly lead to that innovation.
While Bamboo Johnson's uncontrolled decent into a bush might have been the first one with alerons, his innovation didn't lead to that next big innovation. The proof is that his accomplishment has remained obscure for a century. Sony proved it with Betamax, and Microsoft is built on it. It's not first or best that carries the day, it's popularity. (Which continues to enjoy unprecidented popularity.)
Crashing into bushes has remained relatively unpopular until the birth of Steve-O, who's lead something of a renaissance in the areas of bush crashing and nut stapling. Maybe your local hero will find his richly deserved recognition in that area, in which he appeares to have accomplished much.
Footnote for Einstein: When the president of a superpower is redistributing a significant amount of a planet's resources to build a superweapon based significantly on ideas teased from your intuition, those ideas are officially commercially viable. But why quibble with the facts, when your sarcastic assertions are a little more true, and a little less supportive that you thought.
Science can also be funny. I remember when I was looking up some info on how Nickle-Titanium shape memory alloys work, I came across what I suppose I would describe as "a flame" in Physical Review Letters (B, IIRC). In the somewhat dry and subdued language of well respected journals, one set scientists bagged on the paper written by another set in less than flattering detail.
Hmmm it doesn't seem funny upon my retelling. But maybe the PhD equivalent of "take that pen outta yer ass, 'cause your paper stinks" gets extra points because I just didn't expect it.
I take it you didn't catch the Monday Night Football game where John Madden got all meteorological with the tellistrator. God damn that was so sweet I felt it in my heart.
Yeah too bad natural selection doesn't really apply to human social networks. An observation Darwin himself first made if I'm not mistaken.
Humans protect one another and share resources in innovative ways. The upper management would float away on a cloud of money while the people who weren't at fault find themselves in court tearing at what's left of the looted corporate carcass to get their pensions, 401k's or even just their last paycheck.
Look at Enron. The officers of that company left a swath of destruction so wide it's counted only to the nearest billion. You think Kenny Lay isn't going to be living in a mansion while he sees his kids off to ivy league schools and pulls down huge consulting fees after all is said and done? Christ, Bush is trying to appoint a friendly family friend who's being sued for fraud so he can "bring integrity back to the SEC!"
Appearently, the meaning of integrity has changed a lot over the years.
A funny aside. When I was a frisky metallurgical engineering student back in the day. We were told we had to take an ethics class. And unlike lawyers, we as engineers couldn't afford to pay it lip service. If we cheat, people might well die. In scores. Fair enough, I'd always thought of myself as a pretty ethical person; a trait I can't say has served me well, incidently. If you ever doubt the world is cast in shades of grey, subtle variations of hue, your ethics professor telling you it's ok to lie on your resume will swiftly disabuse you of that notion.
Not to mention divesting ourselves of any ownership of it, and possibly shorting it.
But doesn't the directory design in 2000 let you organize things into nice little containers where you could then delegate responsibilities? And doesn't windows 2000 have a "taskpad" or something, that you could say use the delegation infrastructure to give someone close to the convienent units, embodied in the little containers, the very limited ability of modifying passwords.
I get the distinct impression your employers aren't using the features that come with the very expensive software, that they're buying the very expensive service for. I can't really say whether its a security, or even a software issue. The problem seems obfuscated by significant human resource difficulties.
As an aside, I can't say I'd be opposed to learning what company we're speaking of. I've taken enough of a bath in the market, and this would certainly seem like a good indicator to sell.
Considering where my uncle's credit card number ended up, that might qualify as insightful.
If it is correct, then the next step is to start measuring the properties of element zero (zeronium?)
Neutronium. If you'd spent a little less time with dusty old physics books, and more time with bold, fun comic books, you'd know that, wouldn't you?
Moderators tell YOU what's funny!
I have to say, I find the comment itself about as funny as Sienfeld's stand up (read a flaming puppy), but God damn, put it together with the moderation and it's pretty funny.
There was nothing thought provoking in Solaris. It was pathetic.
It's a tale about a very bad psychologist who failed tragically, publically, and through his own cruelty, who is trusted greatly by people spending billions of dollars, and friends who had to be aware of what he did to his wife.
The film is so riddled with internal inconsistancies, that any mental masturbation Soderbergh wishes to engage in becomes contrived and idiotic.
The Sixth Sense told the same tale better. And more recently The Salton Sea did too.
And then the brutal cliches. Soderbergh is a merciless ass.
If you have to see something Clooney and Soderbergh had a hand in, see Far From Heaven. So good they may just have put up their money.
Solaris is a bad scifi exposition made for idiots who want to think of themselves as smart. Ed Wood couldn't have done it worse.
Their still pretty bad as far as price/performance in laptops. But the desktop I saw was a little over, not too bad, but DAMN pretty. Way prettier than even a nice mac.
And of all places I saw it at Sam's Club. Go figure.
Maybe he'll recieve a baseball cap promoting Scotch for one of the finer American distillers.
hell PCs look downright square when placed next to a Mac.
Have you seen the new viao desktops? God damn they're pretty. I could use it as a center piece only my furniture isn't that nice.
Ok, I understand how someone might not want to be associated with the Klan or especially the Rosie O'Donnel Fan Club. But the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes?
I must say. As entertaining as that particular installment of SNL was. The convention skit, the revolving resturant enterprise. My favorite is and always will be his impression of Ollie North in the Ollie North: The Mute Marine sketch. The fact that Ollie has a job not associated with holding a cardboard sign at highway exits is testimate to the fact that the episode, and skit in particular, is not rerun enough.
That was the only thing I didn't by about that episode of south park. Edwards is such an attention whore, he'd proudly accept a Biggest Douche in the Universe Lifetime Achivement Award. People would be clapping and he'd be on TV.
Who do you think you are to argue with a "Physics Genius"? His finely honned powers of critical thinking, obviously see the problem more accurately than you.
If for some reason he doesn't require any sort of proof to believe that a hairy man ape is plotting against us while perfecting monster dunks so mass rad Darryl Dawkins' nuts will retract themselves and become ovaries, but does require physical proof that something isn't real, THAT'S why he's a genius!
We should just trust him. It's the internet, why would he lie?
You didn't see that episode of Married With Children?
Segate has a 146 GB 10k Cheeta. Price? A NEW CARRRR! Well Kia maybe. That's like a car.
Whatever happened with Kennewick man anyway?
I have to say the whole situation surrounding that. I remember an interview with one of the tribal elders where he stated that scientists shouldn't be allowed to study him to figure out where he came from and what kind of life he lived because their oral history made it clear that they were the first, and that there were no others, so he must have been one of them QED.
It's always a tragedy when, esentially, religion pushes science around and prevents us from expanding upon our understanding.