.. and if you decide to pork the ole' lady behind your 8ft privacy fence, your neighbor gets it on tape and sells it to realneighborsdoingit.com? Would you be cool with that?
Quote: "Terminal Services does not change the number of devices accessing and using a software application, it merely provides another avenue to access the software through. So licensing Microsoft Office doesn't change at all regardless if Terminal Services is used or not. You still need one license per device accessing and using the Microsoft Office application."
I guess if you came up with some way of limiting concurrent access to 5 users at a time, then *technically* you might not violate the license since you'd only have 5 devices using it at any given time. You'd still have 100 total devices though, which I'm sure MS' lawyers would jump on..
1. Once you start learning German (you get a fair bit of Swedish/Norwegian/Danish/Dutch/Afrikaans for free.) The same could be said for Latin, but it doesn't have any practical use.
Not really for the scandinavian languages. Yeah, some words maybe somewhat similar, but the same is true for e.g. English/Swedish. Most kids I went to school with found it harder to learn German than English (but of course it did help that 50% of TV programming was in English with sub titles)
Yeah exactly. Or look at Sweden. No mass shootings EVER. And to those who say we need to put religion back in the schools, most of Europe (or at least the northern part) is full of 'godless heathens'. Yet people over there seem to have higher moral standards. How is that?
I agree. People in Europe often slam Americans for being racist, etc. Well I've been living in the American south for the last 6 months or so and I have to say that people here are way more tolerant than I'm used to. And if you're to believe what others say about the south, this is supposed to be the most bigotted part of the country...
Oh I'm sure you can find some real bigots out in the country side but I've yet to meet any.
BTW, in case you're interested, I've also yet to see a pickup truck with a gun rack in the back. I am very disappointed.;-)
As a Swede I'll tell you that on average, Sweden is probably the most MS-loving country on the planet, possibly apart from the US, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Though I agree with what you're saying of course. Or they could've used Solaris, QNX, VxWorks or whatever. Oh well. It's not like this thing is more than an expensive high tech toy for the navy to play with anyway.
What? Are you saying there's no if-statements in PL/SQL? SQL*Plus itself doesn't have them but there's nothing stopping you from just typing some PL/SQL code with if-statements into it. As for "you can't write DDL with it", I'm not sure what that you're referring to but you most certainly can write DDL in both SQL*Plus AND PL/SQL:
SQL*Plus:
SQL> create table foo (...);
PL/SQL:
.. if (something) then
execute immediate 'create table foo (...)'; end if;
One database per server? Are you running it on Windows? Don't... Granted, each instance CAN eat 100-200MB ram (or more..) depending on your shared pool size, etc. but I never had any problems running a bunch of databases on pretty low end servers (later versions do require a lot more RAM but much of that can be fixed by throwing out all the Java stuff. I can write my stored procedures in PL/SQL just fine.)
Besides, RAM is cheap and great for performance.
About create database, yes you do need to install the data dictionary views too and it's an extremely good idea to create some additional tablespaces and rollback segments but hey, that's a pretty good thing to do with any database.
Yeah as another poster pointed out, we do have plenty of steel and lumber. In fact, you can just go to your local HomeDepot or Lowes and check some of it out. Why ship lumber across the world from Sweden to North America? Well, the climate is pretty cold but with much less variations than in Canada and some northern states and this makes the trees grow in a nice, slow and steady pace which gives a much denser and stronger wood. (For you american readers, it can get *really* hot in parts of Canada in the summer)
As for quality and lifespan, why don't you check out american vs. swedish cars or where the U.S. got the cameras for the apollo missions? (Though I have to admit that my wife's '97 buick has held up pretty well for a car with 175k miles on the meter)
Anyway.. I don't think we have a culture of making throwaway crap but I will say that IKEA which another poster mentioned has historically had a pretty bad reputation in Sweden too even though they improved a *lot* in the last 10-15 years or so. When I grew up in the 70s, there was consistently parts missing, the pieces wouldn't fit together, lots of plastic crap, etc. I still don't have a problem buying their products now but if I'm looking for something special, I go somewhere else first.
The disposable computer might in part be a result of two things: The paper industry in Sweden is *huge* - you might have seen the name SCA on paper towel holders, etc. (and they grow forests too, speaking of lumber). The other factor is that we have a long history of research in printing technologies such as some pioneering work in bubble jet printing in the early 70s. Put that together and I don't know.. maybe a computer on a piece of paper is a logic extension of that. (!?!?)
By the way, are you sure your Pergo floor was made in Sweden?
Yeah, the US government *could* send a couple of bombers off to Vanuatu. But they don't need to. (And I'm quite sure they'd neither want to nor dare to either).
All it takes is an airtight trade embargo. Sure, Vanuatu probably has little or no exports, but they're bound to need some American products, computer gear for example.
And even if Vanuatu doesn't give a shit about that (which is possible seeing as they've probably never relied very much on technology in the first place), it would still be effective against a country like Estonia.
You call "incorporating Linux functionality into Caldera/SCO OS8" favorable towards the Linux community? Me, I would call that survival instincts...
Yeah, SCO used to be the leading x86 UNIX vendor and yeah, they USED to be extremely arrogant towards Linux, calling it a toy OS, etc. But I think they got pretty scared when all their ISVs started moving their software to Linux.
(NOTE: I'm talking ISVs who used to target SCO systems.)
So like, what else can they do? They're dead without the applications. Making their OS run Linux apps might be their only way out. Run the Linux apps and sell on the "flexible" licensing and superior clustering (Compaq NonStop clusters.. which is being ported to Linux. Running on Unixware, it was the worst piece of shit I've ever seen though I've no idea whose fault that was)
Wasn't it just C# they submitted to the ECMA? And besides, so what?
First of all, that doesn't stop Microsoft from adding features to the language later on. Sure, it won't be 'Standard C#' but what do they care? Probably as much as compiler vendors cared about the C and C++ standards when they added their own extensions there.
Second, who cares about the language. It's a small language and what really counts is all the libraries written for it. I bet they didn't submit all of those to the ECMA.
Also, there's nothing stopping anyone from implementing a competing Java VM. Many already have. I browsed through the changelog for IBMs Jikes once (long time ago), and there were plenty examples where they had been unsure of how to interpret the standard. In every one of those cases, they had gone and asked Sun about it and received plenty helpful responses.
Remember, Sun's contributed loads of technology to the community in the past, things like NFS, NIS/YP, NIS+ and so on. And I haven't heard of a single case where they've tried to stop anyone else from implementing these things. I'd be very surprised if they don't have a bunch of patents for that stuff.
Off course, in the NFS case, they contributed the original NFS code to BSD Unix and that probably made any lawsuits regarding NFS implementations impossible.
Anyway.. I can't really prove that Java is more 'trustworthy' than.NET but there IS a big difference in how the respective companies have acted in the past even if Sun hasn't been as open about Java as they could've been. But the main reason for that I think is because of all those lawsuits they've filed against Microsoft.
I don't think they give a shit about opensource Java VM or class library implementations as long as noone abuses their trademarks. And why should they? As long as their developers aren't total morons, they will still have a huge lead. Anyone just working on implementing the current specs will always be left behind since those specs represent what Sun's developers were researching years ago.
Why are you talking about BSD the whole time? As far as I know, most(?) of the rendering farms they've been using in Hollywood lately have been running Linux.
And as another poster already mentioned, playstations also use MIPS CPUs. Including the PS2.
Did you ever consider that perhaps Sony and Nintendo didn't use the top of the line CPUs? Or why do you think they can sell a Playstation 2 for $200 when SGI workstations run at what? $5000 and up?
Yes, sure MS has turned over C# to a standard committee.
But I don't think that matters. Unless LOADS off people start developing.NET apps on Linux/Unix very soon, Microsoft is still going to be the ruling force behind.NET.
If or until this changes, the great majority of.NET developers will encounter.NET first on Windows, all the books on the market will be about.NET on Windows and so on. That means that the open source community will constantly have to play catch up with Microsoft each time they release a new version or new tools or libraries.
In the end, I think this is a no-win situation.(If you're interested in alternatives to Microsoft's platforms). I think all this will do is lure developers away from Linux and Unix. They might start out with.NET on Linux or something, but after a while, I think a lot of them will realise they have to switch to Windows because all the new, cool libraries are Windows-only. Yeah,.NET is supposed to be portable, but I'll bet that a lot of the stuff will be specific to Windows anyway (think ActiveX).
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.. and if you decide to pork the ole' lady behind your 8ft privacy fence, your neighbor gets it on tape and sells it to realneighborsdoingit.com? Would you be cool with that?
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Pretty sure that bold part should be 323 ;)
I'm not sure you can do this legally.
That is, the 5 PCs in the corner should be ok. But according to this blog post (which, granted, is over 5 years old,) RDP / VNC is not:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mssmallbiz/archive/2007/08/08/4298215.aspx
Quote: "Terminal Services does not change the number of devices accessing and using a software application, it merely provides another avenue to access the software through. So licensing Microsoft Office doesn't change at all regardless if Terminal Services is used or not. You still need one license per device accessing and using the Microsoft Office application."
I guess if you came up with some way of limiting concurrent access to 5 users at a time, then *technically* you might not violate the license since you'd only have 5 devices using it at any given time. You'd still have 100 total devices though, which I'm sure MS' lawyers would jump on..
Why does an industrial robot care if its 2038 or 1901?
Because if it's 1901, it has not been "born" yet. Duh.
For goodness sake
Shouldn't that be "For goodness's sake"? ;)
Goodness' ;)
. Is half the population of the US grossly malnurished? No.
Actually, yes. Just in a different way...
1. Once you start learning German (you get a fair bit of Swedish/Norwegian/Danish/Dutch/Afrikaans for free.) The same could be said for Latin, but it doesn't have any practical use.
Not really for the scandinavian languages. Yeah, some words maybe somewhat similar, but the same is true for e.g. English/Swedish. Most kids I went to school with found it harder to learn German than English (but of course it did help that 50% of TV programming was in English with sub titles)
(Sweden rules)
Thank you for acknowledging that.
Yeah exactly. Or look at Sweden. No mass shootings EVER. And to those who say we need to put religion back in the schools, most of Europe (or at least the northern part) is full of 'godless heathens'. Yet people over there seem to have higher moral standards. How is that?
I agree. People in Europe often slam Americans for being racist, etc. Well I've been living in the American south for the last 6 months or so and I have to say that people here are way more tolerant than I'm used to. And if you're to believe what others say about the south, this is supposed to be the most bigotted part of the country...
;-)
Oh I'm sure you can find some real bigots out in the country side but I've yet to meet any.
BTW, in case you're interested, I've also yet to see a pickup truck with a gun rack in the back. I am very disappointed.
As a Swede I'll tell you that on average, Sweden is probably the most MS-loving country on the planet, possibly apart from the US, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Though I agree with what you're saying of course. Or they could've used Solaris, QNX, VxWorks or whatever.
Oh well. It's not like this thing is more than an expensive high tech toy for the navy to play with anyway.
Because Bill Gates and Dennis Ritchie are already inductees.
Yeah but they moved it AWAY from MY birthday you insensitive clod!
As for "you can't write DDL with it", I'm not sure what that you're referring to but you most certainly can write DDL in both SQL*Plus AND PL/SQL:
SQL*Plus:PL/SQL:One database per server? Are you running it on Windows? Don't...
Granted, each instance CAN eat 100-200MB ram (or more..) depending on your shared pool size, etc. but I never had any problems running a bunch of databases on pretty low end servers (later versions do require a lot more RAM but much of that can be fixed by throwing out all the Java stuff. I can write my stored procedures in PL/SQL just fine.)
Besides, RAM is cheap and great for performance.
About create database, yes you do need to install the data dictionary views too and it's an extremely good idea to create some additional tablespaces and rollback segments but hey, that's a pretty good thing to do with any database.
Ok. I'm swedish so..
Yeah as another poster pointed out, we do have plenty of steel and lumber. In fact, you can just go to your local HomeDepot or Lowes and check some of it out.
Why ship lumber across the world from Sweden to North America? Well, the climate is pretty cold
but with much less variations than in Canada and some northern states and this makes the trees grow in a nice, slow and steady pace which gives a much denser and stronger wood. (For you american readers, it can get *really* hot in parts of Canada in the summer)
As for quality and lifespan, why don't you check out american vs. swedish cars or where the U.S. got the cameras for the apollo missions? (Though I have to admit that my wife's '97 buick has held up pretty well for a car with 175k miles on the meter)
Anyway.. I don't think we have a culture of making throwaway crap but I will say that IKEA which another poster mentioned has historically had a pretty bad reputation in Sweden too even though they improved a *lot* in the last 10-15 years or so. When I grew up in the 70s, there was consistently parts missing, the pieces wouldn't fit together, lots of plastic crap, etc. I still don't have a problem buying their products now but if I'm looking for something special, I go somewhere else first.
The disposable computer might in part be a result of two things: The paper industry in Sweden is *huge* - you might have seen the name SCA on paper towel holders, etc. (and they grow forests too, speaking of lumber).
The other factor is that we have a long history of research in printing technologies such as some pioneering work in bubble jet printing in the early 70s.
Put that together and I don't know.. maybe a computer on a piece of paper is a logic extension of that. (!?!?)
By the way, are you sure your Pergo floor was made in Sweden?
Yeah, the US government *could* send a couple of bombers off to Vanuatu. But they don't need to. (And I'm quite sure they'd neither want to nor dare to either).
All it takes is an airtight trade embargo. Sure, Vanuatu probably has little or no exports, but they're bound to need some American products, computer gear for example.
And even if Vanuatu doesn't give a shit about that (which is possible seeing as they've probably never relied very much on technology in the first place),
it would still be effective against a country like Estonia.
You call "incorporating Linux functionality into Caldera/SCO OS8" favorable towards the Linux community? Me, I would call that survival instincts...
Yeah, SCO used to be the leading x86 UNIX vendor and yeah, they USED to be extremely arrogant towards Linux, calling it a toy OS, etc. But I think they got pretty scared when all their ISVs started moving their software to Linux. (NOTE: I'm talking ISVs who used to target SCO systems.)
So like, what else can they do? They're dead without the applications. Making their OS run Linux apps might be their only way out. Run the Linux apps and sell on the "flexible" licensing and superior clustering (Compaq NonStop clusters.. which is being ported to Linux. Running on Unixware, it was the worst piece of shit I've ever seen though I've no idea whose fault that was)
Sorry 'bout that. I must've eaten something bad on Christmas because I fart constantly. The smell of the trolls gets lost in the noise so to speak.
And besides, so what?
First of all, that doesn't stop Microsoft from adding features to the language later on. Sure, it won't be 'Standard C#' but what do they care? Probably as much as compiler vendors cared about the C and C++ standards when they added their own extensions there.
Second, who cares about the language. It's a small language and what really counts is all the libraries written for it. I bet they didn't submit all of those to the ECMA.
Also, there's nothing stopping anyone from implementing a competing Java VM. Many already have. I browsed through the changelog for IBMs Jikes once (long time ago), and there were plenty examples where they had been unsure of how to interpret the standard. In every one of those cases, they had gone and asked Sun about it and received plenty helpful responses.
Remember, Sun's contributed loads of technology to the community in the past, things like NFS, NIS/YP, NIS+ and so on. And I haven't heard of a single case where they've tried to stop anyone else from implementing these things. I'd be very surprised if they don't have a bunch of patents for that stuff.
Off course, in the NFS case, they contributed the original NFS code to BSD Unix and that probably made any lawsuits regarding NFS implementations impossible.
Anyway.. I can't really prove that Java is more 'trustworthy' than
I don't think they give a shit about opensource Java VM or class library implementations as long as noone abuses their trademarks. And why should they? As long as their developers aren't total morons, they will still have a huge lead. Anyone just working on implementing the current specs will always be left behind since those specs represent what Sun's developers were researching years ago.
As far as I know, most(?) of the rendering farms they've been using in Hollywood lately have been running Linux.
And as another poster already mentioned, playstations also use MIPS CPUs. Including the PS2.
Did you ever consider that perhaps Sony and Nintendo didn't use the top of the line CPUs? Or why do you think they can sell a Playstation 2 for $200 when SGI workstations run at what? $5000 and up?
Professional journalists investigate their facts.
The real question should be: why the fsck do you associate Jordan with terrorism and how do you think the Jordanians reading it feels about that?
If your comment was supposed to be funny, it wasn't. And I'm not even from Jordan or any other Middle east country.
Yes, sure MS has turned over C# to a standard committee.
.NET apps on Linux/Unix very soon, Microsoft is still going to be the ruling force behind .NET.
.NET developers will encounter .NET first on Windows, all the books on the market will be about .NET on Windows and so on.
.NET on Linux or something, but after a while, I think a lot of them will realise they have to switch to Windows because all the new, cool libraries are Windows-only. Yeah, .NET is supposed to be portable, but I'll bet that a lot of the stuff will be specific to Windows anyway (think ActiveX).
But I don't think that matters. Unless LOADS off people start developing
If or until this changes, the great majority of
That means that the open source community will constantly have to play catch up with Microsoft each time they release a new version or new tools or libraries.
In the end, I think this is a no-win situation.(If you're interested in alternatives to Microsoft's platforms).
I think all this will do is lure developers away from Linux and Unix. They might start out with