"This Message was brought to you by the Counter-Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defence of The People's Republic of China. Stay tuned for a list of recently jailed Falung Gong agitators."
Kidding aside, you're right.
I have a friend from Shanghai, and it is as you say.
As it turns out, bullets aren't responsible for killing people.
A bullet fired from a gun does not cause death! It's the injury that causes death. If the injury happens to be caused by a bullet, that's the injury's fault. But just firing bullets does not kill people.
Some bullets cause injuries that cause death, but some bullets cause injuries that don't cause death. Also some injuries caused by things other than bullets do cause deaths, and some deaths happen without injuries.
You can't tell, by just looking at a bunch of bullets, which ones would cause a deadly injury, which ones would cause a non-deadly injury, and which ones would fall harmlessly somewhere or end up in the drywall.
Finally some bullets are never fired.
So stop trying to blame the bullets. Bullets don't kill people.
Oh, lovely AC. I work for a fortune 200, in healthcare.
We've sunk $20+M in one project for 1 app. Granted the app is very complex, with all sorts of crap in it. I am sure we've passed the 100,000 man hours mark too in the last 8 months. It's got some.NET, some Classic ASP, some jsp on weblogic, some MSSQL stored procs, some informatica scripts, some Oracle databases, several MSSQL databases, tibco, SOAP, Perl, python scripts, and FTP drop and reads to outside vendors. Requires 9 production servers just for the front-end data entry and reporting, and an untold number of servers on the back end.
Also, we are required by law not to disclose the data (HIPAA), so no, agreements can't be made for confidentiality.
And, ah, imagine that, our company's book value increased by 67% in the past year. You should have bought some stock, no? Instead of calling us ID10Ts.
For the rest of you fellow slashdotters, sorry to have humored such a trollish remark. I'll stop now.
System logs are for the machine's administrators and for software developers, not researchers.
If you guys want research material, build your own systems and sink in the tens of miillions of dollars to do that. If your app is decent you'll have more log data that you could possibly wish for.
I think the US military could have handled things better. But there aren't that many nice ways to interrogate people.
In a perfect world, nobody dies. In our world, people die, some horribly, some slowly and horribly. The key is to have as few people die horribly as possible.
When you say gitmo, I assume you're referring to the Detention Program, not the base itself.
I don't really care what happened to a few hundred people, tortured or otherwise. More than 5 million people died in France between 1940 and 1945. Both my grandfathers fought in the war. One spent 2 years in a german labor camp. I'm callous. My mother was born in 1943, near Paris, France. Two SS officers were quartered upstairs. They made sure my mother had enough calcium in her diet.
Not that I don't feel an emotional bond with them at the individual level. I wish I could go "make things right" with each one. I wish I could invite them in, offer them tea and biscuits, and talk of their dreams for the future, of their youth, of the women they have loved and either have married or hope to; of their children, brothers, and sisters.
The world is the strangest place, and pain is everywhere; and joy too.
The military doesn't make the "guilty" and "innocent" distinction.
The military distinguishes between people by what side of their weapons they're on.
The persons held at the U.S. Naval Station in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba are nothing more than enemy combatants who don't currently have the means to inflict harm upon the United States and its Allies. It is the US Government's contention that these people do have the desire and the determination to inflict harm on the United States and its Allies and would do so were they in possession of liberty of movement and adequate instruments of war. It is therefore the unofficial policy to "break" these people so that they will either suffer death and/or no longer be determined to inflict harm upon the United States and its Allies.
This way of thinking, while reminiscent of methods used by many of History's most reviled tyrants such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao, is nevertheless effective at reducing the capabilities of an ideologically motivated enemy.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why the business of war is ghastly. We are a fierce and warlike people, and we are the best in the world at it. All strong nations have at one time or another demonstrated their willingness to inflict unimaginable suffering on defenseless human beings. The poor sools at Gitmo are simply casualties of war.
That it is in our nature as a people to seek tranquility, harmony, and peaceful relations with one another is simply the demonstration that we do not engage in war for the pleasure of it, but rather out of necessity to protect the lives and opportunities of those that are dear to us. Yet we do not think that war is not necessary; to the contrary, it is because we are so dedicated to freedom, equality, and the pursuit of happiness that we are willing to fight those who would enslave us.
All kidding aside, that's a very good question. I personally look forward to seeing it addressed.
Remember, people: If you disagree with the policies of these mega corps: hit them where it hurts. Don't send them money. Don't buy their products, consume their media, or support their advertisers.
If you can't help yourself because you've _got_ to consume their content, then you have no self-control and therefore are ripe for the pickings. Can't blame them really. Blame yourself.
Does that mean the school is responsible once the "child" is at home? In front of his computer? In his ROOM?
Excuize me, but stupid rules like that is why people like me (a taxpayer) don't want to give school and school administrators more money. And I'm gonna turn 37 this month, and I have a child. So don't think this bitterness at the gross inefficiencies of American schools will pass. It's been festering for 20 years.
I hate it when the manager asks: "How are you going to solve this?" and I reply: "The solution is simple: do X, upgrade hardware Y, and install Z. Then connect C to D and enable port N for traffic. Finally, do W and A."
Then the manager says: "We can't upgrade the hardware, we can't open port N. How would you do it now?"
I reply: "Can't be done."
I usually give them the "You have a horse in a horse trailer. How do you drive the horse to you Cousin's ranch 100 miles away? Oh, you can only use a porsche 911. You are not allowed to user a Ford F-350 or any other heavy duty vehicles."
The result is usually this: "It's different!"
And I reply: "Yes, because in the horse case you know enough to not ask a question like that."
The moral to my story: "Management generally has zero clues how things really work in IT, and therefore are not even qualified to ask pertinent questions."
I tell people in IT that I can fix the problem in 10 minutes of coding but that the 10 minutes can happen anytime during 8 hours, and that the other 7.8333 hours will be used for getting my brain warmed up. They look at me funny and I tell them that it's like nasa firing a rocket in space. It takes a year of preparation for a 10 minutes result. Until you've prepared, you can't launch. And if they prepare for 6 months and get reassigned to another project midstream, no launch. No satellite in orbit; no result. Mentally I have to get in "the zone" and some days I can manage 2 hours, some days nothing. But no zone: no code. Once in the zone, however, I can make code that makes the app look like magic.
How do I get in the zone? Not at meetings, that's for sure.
I get in the zone by being balanced, stress-free, rested, focused, and interested. If I'm worrying; if I'm interrupted, if I'm hungry, exhausted, bored: no zone and no code.
Oh, I can answer email, clean my desk, talk to people and draw cute diagrams in visio, but no code.
Each time I am interrupted, I drop out of the zone.
Lastly: when I am sad: no zone whatsoever. Since reading and posting slashdot makes me happy in a weird geeky sort of way, it's a way to get to the zone.
So, manager: If I need you, be there instantly. Otherwise, I don't want to see you hovering. You're distracting me: and if distraction: no zone; no code.
Where do you think all the people running the servers and writing the software and seamlessly operating an integrated network with more than 1 billion nodes come from? From teenagers that talked like that and that had the attitude of "They don't like us, so we don't like them, no, no we don'tz like them, precious, no, we hatez the filthy little businessmenz."
Get it in your head: when you hear 600,000 teens vocalizing that "microshaft suxxors" and these have IQ 2 standard deviations up from the median, you can almost read the writing on the wall, with the meltdown happening in 5-10 years.
These teens and rebels with keyboards and root have been saying that since before 1997.
You're correct. What I generally do though is inform the appropriate team of the perf issues and they throw more money at the hardware, and then the problem goes away.
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You mean people in the UK drive stolen cars with the original license plates?
And, what's this? They drive the cars? I thought they would become little parts in the aftermarket.
Drug pushers take cabs.
What's a Gatso?
Don't misread that you dyslexic perv.
Ah, in logic, the word "yet" is synonymous to "and".
"This Message was brought to you by the Counter-Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defence of The People's Republic of China. Stay tuned for a list of recently jailed Falung Gong agitators."
Kidding aside, you're right.
I have a friend from Shanghai, and it is as you say.
It's Totalitarian, btw.
"Smoking bans, minimum wage laws even zoning laws are all inherently evil, yet the majority of /. readers will think I'm nuts for saying so."
I happen to agree with you.
Rule number one of business: It's Always Management's Fault.
As it turns out, bullets aren't responsible for killing people.
A bullet fired from a gun does not cause death! It's the injury that causes death.
If the injury happens to be caused by a bullet, that's the injury's fault. But just firing bullets does not kill people.
Some bullets cause injuries that cause death, but some bullets cause injuries that don't cause death.
Also some injuries caused by things other than bullets do cause deaths, and some deaths happen without injuries.
You can't tell, by just looking at a bunch of bullets, which ones would cause a deadly injury, which ones would cause a non-deadly injury, and which ones would fall harmlessly somewhere or end up in the drywall.
Finally some bullets are never fired.
So stop trying to blame the bullets. Bullets don't kill people.
There's two of us and 290 million of them. Who's going to change?
Besides, I lived in France. It's no better.
The key is that if you work hard, at least you CAN.
This country is not going straight to hell, since, well, countries don't go to hell. Or heaven, for that matter.
"We made money so we must be right!"
Welcome to America.
Carl, turn in your geek badge.
Podcasting is for people who do not want commercials.
If commercials are put on podcasts, guess what's going to happen to podcasting.
Oh, lovely AC. I work for a fortune 200, in healthcare.
.NET, some Classic ASP, some jsp on weblogic, some MSSQL stored procs, some informatica scripts, some Oracle databases, several MSSQL databases, tibco, SOAP, Perl, python scripts, and FTP drop and reads to outside vendors. Requires 9 production servers just for the front-end data entry and reporting, and an untold number of servers on the back end.
We've sunk $20+M in one project for 1 app. Granted the app is very complex, with all sorts of crap in it. I am sure we've passed the 100,000 man hours mark too in the last 8 months. It's got some
Also, we are required by law not to disclose the data (HIPAA), so no, agreements can't be made for confidentiality.
And, ah, imagine that, our company's book value increased by 67% in the past year. You should have bought some stock, no? Instead of calling us ID10Ts.
For the rest of you fellow slashdotters, sorry to have humored such a trollish remark. I'll stop now.
I will echo that: No!
System logs are for the machine's administrators and for software developers, not researchers.
If you guys want research material, build your own systems and sink in the tens of miillions of dollars to do that. If your app is decent you'll have more log data that you could possibly wish for.
And to reply to myself yet again...
a ult&module=all&branch=DOM_AGNOSTIC_BRANCH&branchty pe=match&dir=&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=ma tch&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=all&mindate=&maxdate= &cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
Checking history at mozilla's bonzai server:
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=def
and finding all sorts of python-related things...
Ah, thanks. I'll check these out...
0 08865.html, by Brendan Eich.
I read also that there is a python for mozilla firefox in the works (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/
Interestinger...
I think the US military could have handled things better. But there aren't that many nice ways to interrogate people.
In a perfect world, nobody dies. In our world, people die, some horribly, some slowly and horribly. The key is to have as few people die horribly as possible.
When you say gitmo, I assume you're referring to the Detention Program, not the base itself.
I don't really care what happened to a few hundred people, tortured or otherwise. More than 5 million people died in France between 1940 and 1945. Both my grandfathers fought in the war. One spent 2 years in a german labor camp. I'm callous. My mother was born in 1943, near Paris, France. Two SS officers were quartered upstairs. They made sure my mother had enough calcium in her diet.
Not that I don't feel an emotional bond with them at the individual level. I wish I could go "make things right" with each one. I wish I could invite them in, offer them tea and biscuits, and talk of their dreams for the future, of their youth, of the women they have loved and either have married or hope to; of their children, brothers, and sisters.
The world is the strangest place, and pain is everywhere; and joy too.
"guilty until we say otherwise"?
Ah, my good friend, let's not delude ourselves.
The military doesn't make the "guilty" and "innocent" distinction.
The military distinguishes between people by what side of their weapons they're on.
The persons held at the U.S. Naval Station in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba are nothing more than enemy combatants who don't currently have the means to inflict harm upon the United States and its Allies. It is the US Government's contention that these people do have the desire and the determination to inflict harm on the United States and its Allies and would do so were they in possession of liberty of movement and adequate instruments of war. It is therefore the unofficial policy to "break" these people so that they will either suffer death and/or no longer be determined to inflict harm upon the United States and its Allies.
This way of thinking, while reminiscent of methods used by many of History's most reviled tyrants such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao, is nevertheless effective at reducing the capabilities of an ideologically motivated enemy.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why the business of war is ghastly. We are a fierce and warlike people, and we are the best in the world at it. All strong nations have at one time or another demonstrated their willingness to inflict unimaginable suffering on defenseless human beings. The poor sools at Gitmo are simply casualties of war.
That it is in our nature as a people to seek tranquility, harmony, and peaceful relations with one another is simply the demonstration that we do not engage in war for the pleasure of it, but rather out of necessity to protect the lives and opportunities of those that are dear to us. Yet we do not think that war is not necessary; to the contrary, it is because we are so dedicated to freedom, equality, and the pursuit of happiness that we are willing to fight those who would enslave us.
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Whatever happened to embedding python in firefox. That would be bitching: APAX
She was late to work one morning?
All kidding aside, that's a very good question. I personally look forward to seeing it addressed.
Remember, people: If you disagree with the policies of these mega corps: hit them where it hurts. Don't send them money. Don't buy their products, consume their media, or support their advertisers.
If you can't help yourself because you've _got_ to consume their content, then you have no self-control and therefore are ripe for the pickings. Can't blame them really. Blame yourself.
Does that mean the school is responsible once the "child" is at home? In front of his computer? In his ROOM?
Excuize me, but stupid rules like that is why people like me (a taxpayer) don't want to give school and school administrators more money. And I'm gonna turn 37 this month, and I have a child. So don't think this bitterness at the gross inefficiencies of American schools will pass. It's been festering for 20 years.
Law of the Land? Ahhh, define "Land".
Amen!!!
I hate it when the manager asks: "How are you going to solve this?" and I reply:
"The solution is simple: do X, upgrade hardware Y, and install Z. Then connect C to D and enable port N for traffic. Finally, do W and A."
Then the manager says: "We can't upgrade the hardware, we can't open port N. How would you do it now?"
I reply: "Can't be done."
I usually give them the "You have a horse in a horse trailer. How do you drive the horse to you Cousin's ranch 100 miles away? Oh, you can only use a porsche 911. You are not allowed to user a Ford F-350 or any other heavy duty vehicles."
The result is usually this: "It's different!"
And I reply: "Yes, because in the horse case you know enough to not ask a question like that."
The moral to my story: "Management generally has zero clues how things really work in IT, and therefore are not even qualified to ask pertinent questions."
I tell people in IT that I can fix the problem in 10 minutes of coding but that the 10 minutes can happen anytime during 8 hours, and that the other 7.8333 hours will be used for getting my brain warmed up. They look at me funny and I tell them that it's like nasa firing a rocket in space. It takes a year of preparation for a 10 minutes result. Until you've prepared, you can't launch. And if they prepare for 6 months and get reassigned to another project midstream, no launch. No satellite in orbit; no result. Mentally I have to get in "the zone" and some days I can manage 2 hours, some days nothing. But no zone: no code. Once in the zone, however, I can make code that makes the app look like magic.
How do I get in the zone? Not at meetings, that's for sure.
I get in the zone by being balanced, stress-free, rested, focused, and interested. If I'm worrying; if I'm interrupted, if I'm hungry, exhausted, bored: no zone and no code.
Oh, I can answer email, clean my desk, talk to people and draw cute diagrams in visio, but no code.
Each time I am interrupted, I drop out of the zone.
Lastly: when I am sad: no zone whatsoever. Since reading and posting slashdot makes me happy in a weird geeky sort of way, it's a way to get to the zone.
So, manager: If I need you, be there instantly. Otherwise, I don't want to see you hovering. You're distracting me: and if distraction: no zone; no code.
Sigh.
If you're a developer and you want to do your thing, use debian.
If you need an OS to replace windows xp on a laptop, put (k)ubuntu on it. Use that to ssh into your debian server.
When time comes to upgrade, you just reformat the laptop and get a later version of (k)ubuntu from a cd.
ubuntu is just a throw-some-os-on-a-box so somebody can go to the intarweb and have something to plug in a usb camera into.
Debian is enterprise-grade server software.
Yes, and that would be your mistake.
Where do you think all the people running the servers and writing the software and seamlessly operating an integrated network with more than 1 billion nodes come from? From teenagers that talked like that and that had the attitude of "They don't like us, so we don't like them, no, no we don'tz like them, precious, no, we hatez the filthy little businessmenz."
Get it in your head: when you hear 600,000 teens vocalizing that "microshaft suxxors" and these have IQ 2 standard deviations up from the median, you can almost read the writing on the wall, with the meltdown happening in 5-10 years.
These teens and rebels with keyboards and root have been saying that since before 1997.
As Rafiki would say: "It is time".
You're correct. What I generally do though is inform the appropriate team of the perf issues and they throw more money at the hardware, and then the problem goes away.