They are surely more than an index because they do so much intelligent filtering.
As to your other comment, how much of news is based upon summarizing what someone else already said? Most of it, I think. Considering that, most news sources are aggregators, and I think I'd be willing to claim that all aggregators are news sources.
Yeah, so is CNN. But if, for example, CNN failed to cover the 9/11 story as it happened claiming it would affect confidence in our nation, I'd be a bit upset.
Google, like CNN, is a news source. It's integrity is based upon its ability to report what it has found without bias. Granted, CNN hasn't got a lot of integrity left in this area, but I'd expect that if something REALLY major happens, they'd report it to me.
In my mind, previously, google had a lot of integrity: I think they've been doing accurate search stuff without bias for a long time. They seem a bit less moral now. Let's hope they don't end up selling all their morals.
Well, yeah, if you bought your computer just to be a SNES emulator, you're crazy. Even assuming you bought your machine as a purely entertainment device, you can do a lot better than that.
Along those lines, I do eventually have a purely entertainment machine, probably a Micro-ITX, equipped with five or so of my favorite emulators, a DVD burner, and TV card. Yes, it'll cost more than $60. However, it would be cheaper than if I got all of the features such a system would provide separately. However, it'll be smaller, and as quiet, with only 60 watts of maximum power consumption.
Actually, for what I want it to do, most of the time it is.
I think you must be looking at these things through rose-colored glasses. I still remember the Nintendo skipping frames (not really frames, but it's a simplification that makes sense) a bit when there were more than 10 enemies on the screen. I remember some old games that were impossible to beat with no save game feature. Worst of all, I remember when my games got too dusty to use, and I'd have to fiddle with them for twenty minutes or so to get them to work.
None of these are problems on modern emulators, and the good ones have other features I like. Zsnes has the most features I really like, such as searching (to cheat) and a fast-forward button (for cutscenes I've watched a bazillion times).
I don't see what's so great about having the original controller. Personally, I like the controller that I have. I can use it on all my old game systems without having to get used to the feel of the new system. To me, being able to use a PC gamepad is a feature that is lacking in the old console systems.
In fact, I'd probably be willing to, for instance, buy a modern gaming system if I could get it in the form of a graphics or PCI card and DVD drive specifically because I like the features that an emulator provides so much that I don't really want to go without them.
This thing has the processing capability of a modern GPU with more memory on a card than a modern PDA.
It sells for $150, but comes with stuff you'd find on a $500 PDA - i.e. a touchscreen, wireless, microphone, and unlike most, it actually has TWO screens. Considering the format, I also see no reason why it couldn't be used to watch DIVX encoded movies - at that size you could easily compress a full DVD to DIVX with no loss in quality.
They could sell an add-on "workboy" cartridge for $200 and it'd still be worth it if it was expandable. Or maybe linuxDS will happen? Either way, this is a heck of a deal on a PDA.
Actually, unlike humans and pets, it's easy to give a soul to a program - provabley so. I personally give a heart and soul to every program I write with the help of this header:
Bad ram has crossed the ocean, They now begin to pour, Out from the boat and up the shore, Two by two they enter computers, And soon they number more, Three by three as well as four by four, Soon the stream of RAM gets wider Then it becomes a river, River becomes an ocean, Carrying ships that bear,
But murders are only people who killed someone. Spammers are like lawyers: they're not actually people. And the subspecies who writes stuff for them aren't even spammers.
Questions of "innocence" and "guilt" do not apply to these species; they don't have a concept for these things.
Hopefully, one day, we will find a way to teach such things to these strange, primitive beings so that they can live beside humans in our struggle against the species that dominates this planet and threatens to wipe us out: politicians.
Wow...last one huh? All the ones since then haven't had a majority. Truly incredible.
Of the many, many, democrats who have sat in office, none have won by popular vote since Carter. Surely, this is not a fluke, as the American people showed that time and time again, they did not want the president enough to give the party a majority. It was not a message to the party that they didn't like the candidate: it was that they didn't like the party.
Truly an unusual statistic. Let me go look at how many that is.....
One. There's only been one, and there've only been four presidents since Carter. I might as well say, "before Clinton, there wasn't a democrat in the White House since Carter" or "It's been four years since we've had a democrat in the White House."
This statistic does not carry enough trials to convey significant information. How about one that does? No republican candidate has ever won the White House without Ohio.
To be fair, if you do any cutting edge stuff (using justifiably beta software), you do have to occasionally hack the code yourself if you want it to work, and I have done so, but I certainly don't think that knowing how to use "configure", "make," "make install" is paramount to understanding compilation, much less using portage. Nor do I actually think that only people who understand the languages used in OSS development and how to use Gentoo should use Gentoo, as my sig implies.
If you were stranded in a strange place, and you couldn't speak the language and had to rely totally on people you didn't know, and had nothing else to do besides eat and sleep, don't you think you'd be pretty inclined to learn the language?
See, you have to sell all your tech stuff to afford the jacket and pants. What you actually end up putting in the pockets is tissues to wipe your eyes while you mourn the passing of your beloved gadgets.
As far as womens clothing, have you ever seen a dress with pockets? Or shirts for women with shirtpockets? Not that they'd necessarily make dresses for women, but it shows the point: you don't get a lot of pockets on dresses. And yet, somehow, womens clothing is often more expensive.
How can they compete? Their clothing has (unsightly?) pockets, unlike the apparently desirable non-functional women's clothing.
What they should really do is make lingerie, since women wear that for guys anyway. Just picture it: first, think of the most attractive woman you've seen in lingerie. Now imagine that inside that lingerie has hidden gadgets in it. To me, that attractive woman is now much more well-endowed.
Of course, this would only work based upon the assumption that geek guys have significant others, so...I don't know. Probably wouldn't work.
They have, and you're right. Probably people have said what I'm about to say a lot too, though I haven't seen it.
I'd prefer not to pay for the advertising, publicity or artists I don't like. Right now all of these costs are subsidized into the all CDs.
If they just put a bunch of the stuff on the shelf in plain white envelopes with the artist's name and the name of the CD on them, they could sell them the way they sell books. Occasionally, they'd put a picture of the artist on it if they'd think it would sell, but not one taken or printed at great expense.
Some stuff would be made in home-recording studios, and audiophiles would know the difference (there's a surprising number of badly recorded stuff on the market now, btw), but people would still buy it.
People who didn't sell would not make a lot more CDs. People who did would sell more. Publishers could afford it because the cost of production would be way less because they're only publishers, not advertisers.
"If John Wayne had been a Linux user, he would have used Gentoo."
I don't know...could John Wayne even use a PC? He seems more like the Linspire kind of guy. Actually, which distro is it that runs on PCs that have been shot with a rifle out of frustration?
'Cause I think that's the one John Wayne would be running.
It's an interpreted language that can't even do evals or operator overloading.
Yeah, that's a real keeper.
To me, high level, modern scripting languages have a list of things that they allow, such as introspection, running code generated on the fly, OOP, and operator overloading. This is by no means a complete list, it's just one that lets you know that VB doesn't fit my definition of a modern scripting language.
It's one that needs to be left in the dust along with C and ASM for high level work. I hear that Microsoft is bringing it up to speed, but your "use modern stuff" argument doesn't fly with me right now.
Not sure...lets see how close I can get.
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I'm sure it's going to end up being bad, but I'll give it a shot:
First of all, no case. It'll work without one, so I'm not including it in my attempt. Given this, along with the fact that I'm using old, slow and therefore cooler processors, no cooling should be needed.
Second, I'm ignoring labor. If you can put Linux on your machine yourself, you can build it yourself.
Cheapest new CPU I could find was a PII-266 for $6:
At this point, I might add that all of these things actually have free shipping in case you want to do this.
With the exception of power supplies, which are cheap, harddrives go bad the fastest, so people are always buying up the surplus ones. It makes it a lot harder to find old stock that hasn't been sold.
So I'd like to consider it separately. Right now we're at $63.
The cheapest harddrive I could find in 4 minutes of searching (about that for the other stuff) was a 20GB 7200 drive for $30 with shipping.
So...we're done at $93. You might also have to buy an IDE cable. I was just hoping that the harddrive or the motherboard or the CDRom drive came with one.
Using this same procedure, you can probably get a case for about $20. Same low quality. But why bother with such cheap parts? Keep 'em in a shoebox.
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They are surely more than an index because they do so much intelligent filtering.
As to your other comment, how much of news is based upon summarizing what someone else already said? Most of it, I think. Considering that, most news sources are aggregators, and I think I'd be willing to claim that all aggregators are news sources.
Yeah, so is CNN. But if, for example, CNN failed to cover the 9/11 story as it happened claiming it would affect confidence in our nation, I'd be a bit upset.
Google, like CNN, is a news source. It's integrity is based upon its ability to report what it has found without bias. Granted, CNN hasn't got a lot of integrity left in this area, but I'd expect that if something REALLY major happens, they'd report it to me.
In my mind, previously, google had a lot of integrity: I think they've been doing accurate search stuff without bias for a long time. They seem a bit less moral now. Let's hope they don't end up selling all their morals.
Well, yeah, if you bought your computer just to be a SNES emulator, you're crazy. Even assuming you bought your machine as a purely entertainment device, you can do a lot better than that.
Along those lines, I do eventually have a purely entertainment machine, probably a Micro-ITX, equipped with five or so of my favorite emulators, a DVD burner, and TV card. Yes, it'll cost more than $60. However, it would be cheaper than if I got all of the features such a system would provide separately. However, it'll be smaller, and as quiet, with only 60 watts of maximum power consumption.
Actually, for what I want it to do, most of the time it is.
I think you must be looking at these things through rose-colored glasses. I still remember the Nintendo skipping frames (not really frames, but it's a simplification that makes sense) a bit when there were more than 10 enemies on the screen. I remember some old games that were impossible to beat with no save game feature. Worst of all, I remember when my games got too dusty to use, and I'd have to fiddle with them for twenty minutes or so to get them to work.
None of these are problems on modern emulators, and the good ones have other features I like. Zsnes has the most features I really like, such as searching (to cheat) and a fast-forward button (for cutscenes I've watched a bazillion times).
I don't see what's so great about having the original controller. Personally, I like the controller that I have. I can use it on all my old game systems without having to get used to the feel of the new system. To me, being able to use a PC gamepad is a feature that is lacking in the old console systems.
In fact, I'd probably be willing to, for instance, buy a modern gaming system if I could get it in the form of a graphics or PCI card and DVD drive specifically because I like the features that an emulator provides so much that I don't really want to go without them.
This thing has the processing capability of a modern GPU with more memory on a card than a modern PDA.
It sells for $150, but comes with stuff you'd find on a $500 PDA - i.e. a touchscreen, wireless, microphone, and unlike most, it actually has TWO screens. Considering the format, I also see no reason why it couldn't be used to watch DIVX encoded movies - at that size you could easily compress a full DVD to DIVX with no loss in quality.
They could sell an add-on "workboy" cartridge for $200 and it'd still be worth it if it was expandable. Or maybe linuxDS will happen? Either way, this is a heck of a deal on a PDA.
Actually, unlike humans and pets, it's easy to give a soul to a program - provabley so. I personally give a heart and soul to every program I write with the help of this header:
#ifndef "heartandsoul_h"
#define "heartandsoul_h"
int heart;
int soul;
#endif
Bad ram has crossed the ocean,
They now begin to pour,
Out from the boat and up the shore,
Two by two they enter computers,
And soon they number more,
Three by three as well as four by four,
Soon the stream of RAM gets wider
Then it becomes a river,
River becomes an ocean,
Carrying ships that bear,
Bad RAM!
Where did this come from?
But murders are only people who killed someone. Spammers are like lawyers: they're not actually people. And the subspecies who writes stuff for them aren't even spammers.
Questions of "innocence" and "guilt" do not apply to these species; they don't have a concept for these things.
Hopefully, one day, we will find a way to teach such things to these strange, primitive beings so that they can live beside humans in our struggle against the species that dominates this planet and threatens to wipe us out: politicians.
Wow...last one huh? All the ones since then haven't had a majority. Truly incredible.
....
Of the many, many, democrats who have sat in office, none have won by popular vote since Carter. Surely, this is not a fluke, as the American people showed that time and time again, they did not want the president enough to give the party a majority. It was not a message to the party that they didn't like the candidate: it was that they didn't like the party.
Truly an unusual statistic. Let me go look at how many that is.
One. There's only been one, and there've only been four presidents since Carter. I might as well say, "before Clinton, there wasn't a democrat in the White House since Carter" or "It's been four years since we've had a democrat in the White House."
This statistic does not carry enough trials to convey significant information. How about one that does? No republican candidate has ever won the White House without Ohio.
Does it have Mount Rainier support?
Because I would very much like to use them in Linux the same way I use a harddrive.
I don't think it does. In fact, I haven't yet found any DL drives that have Mount Rainier support.
You seem to have caught my point there.
To be fair, if you do any cutting edge stuff (using justifiably beta software), you do have to occasionally hack the code yourself if you want it to work, and I have done so, but I certainly don't think that knowing how to use "configure", "make," "make install" is paramount to understanding compilation, much less using portage. Nor do I actually think that only people who understand the languages used in OSS development and how to use Gentoo should use Gentoo, as my sig implies.
It's just funny. Lighten up.
Please go tell any other anti-zealots you know to do the same.
If you were stranded in a strange place, and you couldn't speak the language and had to rely totally on people you didn't know, and had nothing else to do besides eat and sleep, don't you think you'd be pretty inclined to learn the language?
No, that ends up not being a problem.
See, you have to sell all your tech stuff to afford the jacket and pants. What you actually end up putting in the pockets is tissues to wipe your eyes while you mourn the passing of your beloved gadgets.
As far as womens clothing, have you ever seen a dress with pockets? Or shirts for women with shirtpockets? Not that they'd necessarily make dresses for women, but it shows the point: you don't get a lot of pockets on dresses. And yet, somehow, womens clothing is often more expensive.
How can they compete? Their clothing has (unsightly?) pockets, unlike the apparently desirable non-functional women's clothing.
What they should really do is make lingerie, since women wear that for guys anyway. Just picture it: first, think of the most attractive woman you've seen in lingerie. Now imagine that inside that lingerie has hidden gadgets in it. To me, that attractive woman is now much more well-endowed.
Of course, this would only work based upon the assumption that geek guys have significant others, so...I don't know. Probably wouldn't work.
They have, and you're right. Probably people have said what I'm about to say a lot too, though I haven't seen it.
I'd prefer not to pay for the advertising, publicity or artists I don't like. Right now all of these costs are subsidized into the all CDs.
If they just put a bunch of the stuff on the shelf in plain white envelopes with the artist's name and the name of the CD on them, they could sell them the way they sell books. Occasionally, they'd put a picture of the artist on it if they'd think it would sell, but not one taken or printed at great expense.
Some stuff would be made in home-recording studios, and audiophiles would know the difference (there's a surprising number of badly recorded stuff on the market now, btw), but people would still buy it.
People who didn't sell would not make a lot more CDs. People who did would sell more. Publishers could afford it because the cost of production would be way less because they're only publishers, not advertisers.
you've never seen the Linux kernel until you've read it in the original Klingon.
To accept binaries is dishonorable.
He whose distro is not compiled from source will never enter the halls of Stovakor.
Any ko'tal who cannot compile his apps to brings dishonor upon his family, and is a weak piece of baktag.
We do not allow the weak to live.
"If John Wayne had been a Linux user, he would have used Gentoo."
I don't know...could John Wayne even use a PC? He seems more like the Linspire kind of guy.
Actually, which distro is it that runs on PCs that have been shot with a rifle out of frustration?
'Cause I think that's the one John Wayne would be running.
Since it's public, I'll just surf on over to Gmail and get myself an account...WHAT? I CAN'T?!!!
But you said it was public!!!
I guess I'll just have to hope that somebody gives me a private invitation so that I can become a beta-tester.
Kind of like Bloody Stupid Johnson from the discworld series (find him), his stuff is worth seeing for the utter scope of stupidity.
It's an interpreted language that can't even do evals or operator overloading.
Yeah, that's a real keeper.
To me, high level, modern scripting languages have a list of things that they allow, such as introspection, running code generated on the fly, OOP, and operator overloading. This is by no means a complete list, it's just one that lets you know that VB doesn't fit my definition of a modern scripting language.
It's one that needs to be left in the dust along with C and ASM for high level work. I hear that Microsoft is bringing it up to speed, but your "use modern stuff" argument doesn't fly with me right now.
I happen to have a 440BX, and I've got a PII in my Intel 440BX right now. Anyway, I meant 440ZX. Same thing applies.
t el /440ZX/
http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/chipsets_d/In
But you're right about the SDRAM. Don't know what was going through my head there.
Glade is good, but not as flexible as it could be. It's a bit of a pain to port glade apps to the web, for example.
So now there's wxglade which is making some headway, (it uses the ultra-portable wxwidgets).
Shipping was free from every place I found stuff.
So your argument is wrong.
Ah yes. It's totally not worth it. Nobody could possibly make it into a business
I'm sure it's going to end up being bad, but I'll give it a shot:
First of all, no case. It'll work without one, so I'm not including it in my attempt. Given this, along with the fact that I'm using old, slow and therefore cooler processors, no cooling should be needed.
Second, I'm ignoring labor. If you can put Linux on your machine yourself, you can build it yourself.
Cheapest new CPU I could find was a PII-266 for $6:
Compatible motherboard Intel 440BX for $10
Lets go with a good 64MB of ram. This one uses EDO, which is $8.
Then we add a a 4MB AGP video card for $6,
a sound card for $6,
and a 10/100 LAN card for $4.
Power supply for $14.
8x CDROM drive for $9,
At this point, I might add that all of these things actually have free shipping in case you want to do this.
With the exception of power supplies, which are cheap, harddrives go bad the fastest, so people are always buying up the surplus ones. It makes it a lot harder to find old stock that hasn't been sold.
So I'd like to consider it separately. Right now we're at $63.
The cheapest harddrive I could find in 4 minutes of searching (about that for the other stuff) was a 20GB 7200 drive for $30 with shipping.
So...we're done at $93.
You might also have to buy an IDE cable. I was just hoping that the harddrive or the motherboard or the CDRom drive came with one.
Using this same procedure, you can probably get a case for about $20. Same low quality. But why bother with such cheap parts? Keep 'em in a shoebox.