So why not build the PV cells in the roof of your business to supplement the incoming hydrogen supply? Of course PV panels are probably too expensive now to make it cost effective, but in the long run, consider the ecomomy of scale when a few 10s of thousands of filling stations all get into the act.
Just because you don't want to hear/read it, doesn't mean it isn't interesting to some of us. I, for one, like to read about the issues relating to such a switch, and I still think it's cool that gov't agencies are even considering Linux as a viable solution.
Think of it like a war propaganda machine: Every battle we win (or we even/look/ to be winning) will get reported as a morale booster for the troops and the public back home.:-)
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Man, I gotta drink me some of that Ganges water...
In this case, it/is/ pretty simple. If you don't like RedHat for one reason or another, there are a great many companies around who would love to take the money you were sending to RH for support...
Well, I haven't touched a pie menu yet, but I'm game to try it out... SOMETHING new has to be done, but no one ever seems to have any real ideas (like I don't).
I'm sitting here using Windowmaker on RH8 because I can't stand the 'panel' interface currently in vogue. I am more comfortable doing one thing at a time (but with extra side things keeping me up to date -- like gaim and system monitors). But it's still not comfortable, and I'm always poking around for something new.
Too bad I didnt' see your original post when you wrote it, this one shoudl rightfully be modded down as off topic.:)
You're correct about the panels, but the batteries that the panels charge are probably just as environmentally damaging, and they do break down after just a few years.
I think you're right about most of F1, but the fact is right now Ferrari is just too far ahead of the rest of the guys. After the second or third turn, it's not a question of who will win, it's simply a question of whether or not Schu can avoid wrecks and not suffer any mechanical breakdowns...
Maybe next year will be different.
One reason your "nerds will go for F1" might fail in the U.S. is simply the lack of F1 exposure. Another is the cost: You can find 'stock car' racing all over the states, accessible to anyone who wants to get involved. F1 is quite an exclusive club...
Wait. You mean numerous policy speeches, the state of the union, plans (desires) for drilling in Alaska.
You hear it all the time: We must reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Whether or not you believe it is based primarily on two things: Your own political affiliation, and your level of paranoia.
I'll have to disagree that it's hard to find, or expensive info.
You can, for instance, locate and map such places on a site like http://www.hazardmaps.gov. The info is also provided on the 'free' (as in your tax dollars already paid for it) HAZUS product from FEMA.
But you're right on one thing: Private pilots don't have any problem getting info, and us/. wackos (ooo cult gatherings, yay) don't really need to know, do we?
I agree with you for the most part, though if you keep your head down, you can believe whatever you want around here... at least for now.:)
One thing though: You mention people driving around in their SUV's as though they shouldn't be doing so. The trouble with that is, who's going to tell them not to? Government?
I enjoy readin the worries of people before these acts get put into law. One suspects that as soon as the civil liberties are taken too far away, revolt will follow (probably in the form of electing the "other" party).
However, I'm not sure what you mean, bringing in the accelerated tax cut. What could be wrong about handicapping what gov't can do to us by restricting the amount of money they take from us?
Sounds pretty good to me. Oh no! Our favorite projects might not get funded. Such a shame.
But taken to the base level, both current major political parties want one thing: Big, caretaker government.
Neither is particularly great with human freedoms. Democrats believe I should not be allowed to keep what I make, and force me to do things I don't care to do with my property. Republicans are more likely (though certainly not guaranteed) to give me more leeway with my own property, but want to tell me what I should and should not think.
Tell me, then. Why should I vote for either party?
First time I had to do a 1040, I forgot how to do basic arithmetic to the tune of $400 or so, which they sent back to me. Quickly and pleasantly enough, too.
Of course, the next year, I messed up (though this time it was because the forms are so completely fucked up and such an insult to modern humanity that it makes me vote Libertarian every fucking chance I get. Ahem, erm, sorry about that) and they sent me an equally-pleasant bill for a few hundred...
Of course, for the refund they just gave me the difference. For the bill, the difference included a few bucks in interest....:)
It's funny how the rants of frightened leftists get modded up and responded to by other frightened leftists.
And reasoned responses by someone like you would likely be labeled as the wacky right wing response...
I particularly liked your explanation of the 'paper tiger' thinking of the fundamentalists. Quite correct, and maybe you'll change the minds of a frightened leftist or two. Well, probably not.
And you know what, he's right. Fact is, you do have a choice where you live. If you believe that safety is of utmost concern, and terrorists are at the top of your "danger list", perhaps Peoria, Des Moines, or Lincoln, Nebraska would be a better choice for your home.
However, you're also right: The original scared Manhattenite surely is within his rights to demand a police state. Happily, he's still in the minority...
Though I'm curious... when "you" (since I don't know if you really believe the police state is the Way to Go) succeed and we have no rights (but we feel safer), what will you do when the Next Big Thing comes up, and you're no longer allowed to "out-organize" anyone because organizing into groups is considered a terrorist activity?
I wasn't sure whether to mod or to reply, but I'll reply in the hopes that you'll read it and learn something. Keep learning about Linux, because many the issues you've brought up are wrong. I'll just focus on the server part of your argument.
For servers, why not recommend it for small companies? Then when they want new stuff, they'll come to you and pay you money. Hard to believe, I know. However, if they are stingy and want to do everythign themselves, it's VERY easy to do most day-to-day server tasks, like adding a user.
Don't tell me that you can't write up a quick reference sheet that says "To add a user, log in as root and type the following: adduser -g users blah blah blah."
You would have to do the same thing for a windows install ("To add a user, open the control panel, then open Administrative tools, then open Computer Management, then go to Users, right click and add New..."). It's no harder or easier without "a local expert".
Adding a printer in RH is exceedingly easy, at least as easy as in Windows. Printtool provides an exceedingly simple GUI to add printers.
"Most computers come with windows" is not necessarily the case. Small companies often use white box suppliers, who can avoid putting windows on if you wish. You can also get Dell servers with no OS, I've done that recently. Also, you can't tell me that the initial cost isn't important for small companies. If I can say to someone that their server will be even $100 cheaper, and more reliable (see next para), they're going to notice.
Reliability IS better on Unix and always has been. I don't see that changing any time soon, though perhaps now XP is "close enough" for desktop use.
Your paragraph about Security leaves many hints that either you aren't an actual IT professional, or a very new one. Your "security through obscurity" comment directed at Linux is the particular phrase I'm looking at. There is, for instance, no way an email-borne virus on any common Linux email client could destroy a machine.
Trying to educate you on every issue is far too difficult in this silly forum. However, I'd suggest you don't toss Linux out with the bathwater just because you aren't as experienced or as business savvy as you try to make us believe...
"Troll-bait"-flinging moderators be damned, but I agree with you... now the important question is, what arena are you contracting in, and how can some of the rest of us get in that action?:)
If "yo" hurts you so bad, just pretend I wrote "Hey", or "Hey bucko", or "Hello?", or some other such phrase.
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Yo, read the article. Please. They are/proving/ that there are real savings to be had.
I think the original poster didn't say "No licensing", did he? He said "Savings on future licensing". Even with support costs, it'll be cheaper. You don't pay support costs for MS?
But again, read the article: There is real-world proof.
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Since when did blatant conspiracy theory become insightful?
Maybe they killed the programs because they were wasting a huge amount of money and getting little commercial interest. Apply Occam's Razor.
Damn them for trying to profit.
So why not build the PV cells in the roof of your business to supplement the incoming hydrogen supply? Of course PV panels are probably too expensive now to make it cost effective, but in the long run, consider the ecomomy of scale when a few 10s of thousands of filling stations all get into the act.
Just because you don't want to hear/read it, doesn't mean it isn't interesting to some of us. I, for one, like to read about the issues relating to such a switch, and I still think it's cool that gov't agencies are even considering Linux as a viable solution.
/look/ to be winning) will get reported as a morale booster for the troops and the public back home. :-)
Think of it like a war propaganda machine: Every battle we win (or we even
Man, I gotta drink me some of that Ganges water...
Man, you are a bitter, bitter person. I'd stop reading this site if I were you.
More Free than just about anywhere else you'd like to name.
Also, public education is quite affordable. Noone says you gotta go to Harvard.
Say what? Mountain Dew regular isn't sweet enough for some people?
Heck, I like Code Red, but is it really that much sweeter than the regular nectar of the gods??
In this case, it /is/ pretty simple. If you don't like RedHat for one reason or another, there are a great many companies around who would love to take the money you were sending to RH for support...
Well, I haven't touched a pie menu yet, but I'm game to try it out... SOMETHING new has to be done, but no one ever seems to have any real ideas (like I don't).
:)
I'm sitting here using Windowmaker on RH8 because I can't stand the 'panel' interface currently in vogue. I am more comfortable doing one thing at a time (but with extra side things keeping me up to date -- like gaim and system monitors). But it's still not comfortable, and I'm always poking around for something new.
Too bad I didnt' see your original post when you wrote it, this one shoudl rightfully be modded down as off topic.
You're correct about the panels, but the batteries that the panels charge are probably just as environmentally damaging, and they do break down after just a few years.
I think you're right about most of F1, but the fact is right now Ferrari is just too far ahead of the rest of the guys. After the second or third turn, it's not a question of who will win, it's simply a question of whether or not Schu can avoid wrecks and not suffer any mechanical breakdowns...
Maybe next year will be different.
One reason your "nerds will go for F1" might fail in the U.S. is simply the lack of F1 exposure. Another is the cost: You can find 'stock car' racing all over the states, accessible to anyone who wants to get involved. F1 is quite an exclusive club...
Wait. You mean numerous policy speeches, the state of the union, plans (desires) for drilling in Alaska.
You hear it all the time: We must reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Whether or not you believe it is based primarily on two things: Your own political affiliation, and your level of paranoia.
I'll have to disagree that it's hard to find, or expensive info.
/. wackos (ooo cult gatherings, yay) don't really need to know, do we?
You can, for instance, locate and map such places on a site like http://www.hazardmaps.gov. The info is also provided on the 'free' (as in your tax dollars already paid for it) HAZUS product from FEMA.
But you're right on one thing: Private pilots don't have any problem getting info, and us
I agree with you for the most part, though if you keep your head down, you can believe whatever you want around here... at least for now. :)
One thing though: You mention people driving around in their SUV's as though they shouldn't be doing so. The trouble with that is, who's going to tell them not to? Government?
Tinfoil is right.
I enjoy readin the worries of people before these acts get put into law. One suspects that as soon as the civil liberties are taken too far away, revolt will follow (probably in the form of electing the "other" party).
However, I'm not sure what you mean, bringing in the accelerated tax cut. What could be wrong about handicapping what gov't can do to us by restricting the amount of money they take from us?
Sounds pretty good to me. Oh no! Our favorite projects might not get funded. Such a shame.
But taken to the base level, both current major political parties want one thing: Big, caretaker government.
Neither is particularly great with human freedoms. Democrats believe I should not be allowed to keep what I make, and force me to do things I don't care to do with my property. Republicans are more likely (though certainly not guaranteed) to give me more leeway with my own property, but want to tell me what I should and should not think.
Tell me, then. Why should I vote for either party?
Yeah, they do that now and then. :)
:)
First time I had to do a 1040, I forgot how to do basic arithmetic to the tune of $400 or so, which they sent back to me. Quickly and pleasantly enough, too.
Of course, the next year, I messed up (though this time it was because the forms are so completely fucked up and such an insult to modern humanity that it makes me vote Libertarian every fucking chance I get. Ahem, erm, sorry about that) and they sent me an equally-pleasant bill for a few hundred...
Of course, for the refund they just gave me the difference. For the bill, the difference included a few bucks in interest....
It's funny how the rants of frightened leftists get modded up and responded to by other frightened leftists.
And reasoned responses by someone like you would likely be labeled as the wacky right wing response...
I particularly liked your explanation of the 'paper tiger' thinking of the fundamentalists. Quite correct, and maybe you'll change the minds of a frightened leftist or two. Well, probably not.
And you know what, he's right. Fact is, you do have a choice where you live. If you believe that safety is of utmost concern, and terrorists are at the top of your "danger list", perhaps Peoria, Des Moines, or Lincoln, Nebraska would be a better choice for your home.
However, you're also right: The original scared Manhattenite surely is within his rights to demand a police state. Happily, he's still in the minority...
Though I'm curious... when "you" (since I don't know if you really believe the police state is the Way to Go) succeed and we have no rights (but we feel safer), what will you do when the Next Big Thing comes up, and you're no longer allowed to "out-organize" anyone because organizing into groups is considered a terrorist activity?
I wasn't sure whether to mod or to reply, but I'll reply in the hopes that you'll read it and learn something. Keep learning about Linux, because many the issues you've brought up are wrong. I'll just focus on the server part of your argument.
For servers, why not recommend it for small companies? Then when they want new stuff, they'll come to you and pay you money. Hard to believe, I know. However, if they are stingy and want to do everythign themselves, it's VERY easy to do most day-to-day server tasks, like adding a user.
Don't tell me that you can't write up a quick reference sheet that says "To add a user, log in as root and type the following: adduser -g users blah blah blah."
You would have to do the same thing for a windows install ("To add a user, open the control panel, then open Administrative tools, then open Computer Management, then go to Users, right click and add New..."). It's no harder or easier without "a local expert".
Adding a printer in RH is exceedingly easy, at least as easy as in Windows. Printtool provides an exceedingly simple GUI to add printers.
"Most computers come with windows" is not necessarily the case. Small companies often use white box suppliers, who can avoid putting windows on if you wish. You can also get Dell servers with no OS, I've done that recently. Also, you can't tell me that the initial cost isn't important for small companies. If I can say to someone that their server will be even $100 cheaper, and more reliable (see next para), they're going to notice.
Reliability IS better on Unix and always has been. I don't see that changing any time soon, though perhaps now XP is "close enough" for desktop use.
Your paragraph about Security leaves many hints that either you aren't an actual IT professional, or a very new one. Your "security through obscurity" comment directed at Linux is the particular phrase I'm looking at. There is, for instance, no way an email-borne virus on any common Linux email client could destroy a machine.
Trying to educate you on every issue is far too difficult in this silly forum. However, I'd suggest you don't toss Linux out with the bathwater just because you aren't as experienced or as business savvy as you try to make us believe...
"Troll-bait"-flinging moderators be damned, but I agree with you... now the important question is, what arena are you contracting in, and how can some of the rest of us get in that action? :)
Wow, nice job belittling the guy for having a little fun. I'm sure you put up with all kinds of crap where you work.
I'd like to think that some people (including some, shocker, adults!) would rather live with a little idealism and self-respect.
Old man, sometimes, adults can suck it up and quit at a place rather than putting up with obnoxious or rude working conditions.
Some day I hope you'll understand that there are things more important than paychecks.
YO YO YO boyyyyyyyyyyyyy
What can I say, I'm so urban it hurts.
If "yo" hurts you so bad, just pretend I wrote "Hey", or "Hey bucko", or "Hello?", or some other such phrase.
Yo, read the article. Please. They are /proving/ that there are real savings to be had.
I think the original poster didn't say "No licensing", did he? He said "Savings on future licensing". Even with support costs, it'll be cheaper. You don't pay support costs for MS?
But again, read the article: There is real-world proof.
So we should do anything at all? Spending on IT will happen every year, why not take some and start rolling towards OSS stuff? Makes sense to me.
:)
Though I love your comment about your wife and shopping: Funny because it's so very true.