I know a lot of people who do deny using Fortan, or ever knowing it. I didn't realize that it would be such a big deal to make a joke about something that really happens. The fact is that of the people that originally learned Fortran, I know a lot that regret every learning it. I don't see how I was being a troll, but I'm sorry I stepped on your precious programming language's toes.
Spammer? No. Honestly, When I wrote that I confused MPAA with some government agency. I apologize. I don't understand how you get "Spammer" from this, but I dispute that. Again, I was mistaken thinking the MPAA was something else (not sure what I was thinking about at the time), perhaps a gov't agency.
You brought up one of my favorite court cases of all time, and didn't even include the quote? In Cohen vs California, Judge Harlen said: "One man's vulgar is another man's lyric" -- The most spiffy quote I've ever heard...
I don't know where you've been, but most households have Internet Explorer installed. In IE, you can arbitrarily delete history. One record at a time. That's even worse than the "Clear-all"'s of the past generation. Duh.
Specifically, the MPAA ratings system is not an "unconstitutional restriction of free speech", it is free speech - in the form of an economically enforced blacklist.
Haha, explain to me how you justify that? Speech is being intercepted, checked for "vulgarity", and if there is "vulgarity" in it, it is stopped. That's censorship, and censorship does not equal free speech. I still don't understand how economics figure into this whole thing, but to each his own.
When I was 11, I knew how to detect and delete all these security mechanisms, and more. We're talking about a kid here. I know that my parents tried to passively control me (thank god they didn't put some program on my computer, I'd be a lot worse right now), and I hated them for it. I came out better in the end by being exposed to everything that's bad, and sometimes interesting. Porn is sometimes harmful, but not always. In fact, now that I've gotten over the "porn craze" (Friends of mine were a lot more into than I was, I'd frequently get asked if the computer whiz knew any good porn sites), I prefer more artistic oriented photographs and drawings.
You can't try to limit someone's ability to think. Perhaps you think you're doing them a favor by extending their childhood just a bit longer, but this reminds me of trying to delay pregnancy for stupid reasons. This whole "Military Camp" ideal really needs to stop. Eventually, everybody can defeat a security mechanism put in place to stop them. I hacked into my school's novell recently and found a way to easily and effectively view what I felt I wanted to view.
My question for all of you is.. What exactly are you protecting these kids from? Hate, Violence, Pornography? Sex? You can't do it. It just isn't possible. The more you try to keep someone away from something, the bigger their motivation becomes. Like when your parents wouldn't let you watch killing scenes on TV.. What's the first thing you did when they left the house? Exactly.
When George Carlin originally ran his "Seven Dirty Words" skit, I believe it was only the first 7. "Fart", "Turd" and "Twat" are all.. Well, not particularly bad words.
I might be mistaken, but it's usually the AOL disks that end up in landfills. I have around 500 AOL DVD-holder's with the stickers stripped off, but no AOL cds. On the other hand, I have almost all of my old Linux versions, just backed up for silly reasons. Not to mention I have a few Microsoft CDs I'm going to throw out. I didn't realize "Wine with Julia Child" was an integral part of using a computer.
If you are going to make a laptop keyboard ergonomic, focus on making it bigger and more expandable first. There's nothing more cramping than having to fit five fingers in a four inch space. Perhaps a keyboard that pulled out to it's full capacity once the laptop was settled? Just an idea.
It should really be observed that 'I, Cringely' is on the list of Slashboxes. I can't believe this was posted in the news, when so many other good articles of his didn't get submitted by viewers who were *just browsing*. I'm suprised the editor didn't catch this as well.
$14.95 a month? I doubt it. I mean, I have enough money to do that, but when I can just as easily write a program that would search for an mp3 I wanted? No way. Perhaps $8/mo, but that'd only work for so long. All these 13 year old kids are going to want some way to download things really cheap. I still remember downloading Photoshop, just because of the high price tag. So many people wanted it, it was easily crackable (client-side security doesn't work!), and I think that's what is going to happen with MP3s.
Remember, about a day after WMAs got released, someone put out a [fuck.exe] that removed the copy protection.
I'm not at all suprised. All I ever heard on the news was "Napster and MP3.com's MyMP3.com". I don't doubt that the music industry will win out if they propose solutions that will make it not worth the time. (Downloadable music for $3 a month, say).
I'm glad the X-Files are coming back, but they didn't have to cancel the lone gunman. In my opinion, the downfall of the show was when they put it on Friday. I just have Sunday nights reserved for Fox. Friday's are more NBC-based.;)
I think getting yourself shipped somewhere else sounds like a good idea, if that's your only option. I'd still look, though. There's more than one way to skin a penguin.
I think the problem with this super-media is it's price. Sure, you can go buy a DVD disc for $20, but when CD-Rs are running at $.20 a peice, why bother? I sure as hell am going for the cheap alternative, even if it takes me a tiny bit of exchange time. However, I'm never one to turn down new technologies. Then again, they said Rambus would be super-great too. So far, the benchmarks are saying otherwise.
This is on Slashdot for a couple of reasons. Namely, if you've read the FAQ, they post news that they feel is reflective to the general community. Obviously, by even entering this thread, you have some interest. Most of us probably had to deal with this same bullshit when we were younger, and therefore makes a good psychological discussion peice. I don't see why it wouldn't be on Slashdot, it makes total sense that it reflects the general population.
This happens forever, over and over. The idiots of society (read: Gomfie) piss off people and drive them to insanity. When the authorities, the people that should be proud of these kids for learning shit, rebel against them, and hurt them.. What other choice is left? I surely don't think a 13 year old has many choices, especially when thrown into an environment where they can never function.
Not that us creative/smart individuals don't have enough pressure on us from the community at large, but we also have to deal with authority. It's total bullshit that all of us have to go through this, and you know, it's not fair. I'm sick of the politics, the prejudices, and the indeniable stupidity of the world.
Guess what will happen? People will weep about this for a couple days, think about it, then move on. Nobody ever thinks about what impact their little comments have on society, especially those who are so irresponsibly immature. I would say just to throw them all in a jailcell, but I'm sure that would be per to some ignorant politicans wishes, as well.
Who cares what other people think? Linux will still be there. People who care will still write code for it. Linux will continue to get better. Anyone who doesn't use it is losing out but it's their loss, not yours.
Wrong! By not being a popular operating system, we loose a lot of support in the "driver" front, and although populating Linux through the newbie community might be a bad idea, you'll probably reach a few techies that will implement Windows technologies on Linux. I'd say one of the big problems right now with Linux is it's inability to adapt to new technologies, like Windows can. Sure, Windows is about as versatile as Mandrake in the auto-detection front, but they have companies making drivers for them so it works.
Example? I can't use Linux on my newly-bought OEM machine because it includes Ultra ATA/100 support on the motherboard. I'm not certain this is the problem, of course, but Windows seems to work fine with it. Right now, if I tell someone I'm going to buy them a computer, they automatically assume it includes something from Bill Gates, the rich guy.
The whole point of getting interested is so that Linux does not get pushed through, and only marketed to "techies who want a toy". We need it not only to be "not old technology", but we need it to lead the way as a standard precdent. We'll be the DDR SDRam against the RDRam struggle. (Cheaper/Faster)
Linux will continue to get better, but there is harm in thinking that you can keep it all to yourself.
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I know a lot of people who do deny using Fortan, or ever knowing it. I didn't realize that it would be such a big deal to make a joke about something that really happens. The fact is that of the people that originally learned Fortran, I know a lot that regret every learning it. I don't see how I was being a troll, but I'm sorry I stepped on your precious programming language's toes.
Seeka
Spammer? No. Honestly, When I wrote that I confused MPAA with some government agency. I apologize. I don't understand how you get "Spammer" from this, but I dispute that. Again, I was mistaken thinking the MPAA was something else (not sure what I was thinking about at the time), perhaps a gov't agency.
Seeka
You brought up one of my favorite court cases of all time, and didn't even include the quote? In Cohen vs California, Judge Harlen said: "One man's vulgar is another man's lyric" -- The most spiffy quote I've ever heard...
Seeka
I don't know where you've been, but most households have Internet Explorer installed. In IE, you can arbitrarily delete history. One record at a time. That's even worse than the "Clear-all"'s of the past generation. Duh.
Seeka
Specifically, the MPAA ratings system is not an "unconstitutional restriction of free speech", it is free speech - in the form of an economically enforced blacklist.
Haha, explain to me how you justify that? Speech is being intercepted, checked for "vulgarity", and if there is "vulgarity" in it, it is stopped. That's censorship, and censorship does not equal free speech. I still don't understand how economics figure into this whole thing, but to each his own.
Seeka
When I was 11, I knew how to detect and delete all these security mechanisms, and more. We're talking about a kid here. I know that my parents tried to passively control me (thank god they didn't put some program on my computer, I'd be a lot worse right now), and I hated them for it. I came out better in the end by being exposed to everything that's bad, and sometimes interesting. Porn is sometimes harmful, but not always. In fact, now that I've gotten over the "porn craze" (Friends of mine were a lot more into than I was, I'd frequently get asked if the computer whiz knew any good porn sites), I prefer more artistic oriented photographs and drawings.
You can't try to limit someone's ability to think. Perhaps you think you're doing them a favor by extending their childhood just a bit longer, but this reminds me of trying to delay pregnancy for stupid reasons. This whole "Military Camp" ideal really needs to stop. Eventually, everybody can defeat a security mechanism put in place to stop them. I hacked into my school's novell recently and found a way to easily and effectively view what I felt I wanted to view.
My question for all of you is.. What exactly are you protecting these kids from? Hate, Violence, Pornography? Sex? You can't do it. It just isn't possible. The more you try to keep someone away from something, the bigger their motivation becomes. Like when your parents wouldn't let you watch killing scenes on TV.. What's the first thing you did when they left the house? Exactly.
Seeka
When George Carlin originally ran his "Seven Dirty Words" skit, I believe it was only the first 7. "Fart", "Turd" and "Twat" are all .. Well, not particularly bad words.
Seeka
Does anyone know if Borg Vessels can run linux? I'd like to find out, since this one comes close to resembling a Borg cube.
Seeka
I might be mistaken, but it's usually the AOL disks that end up in landfills. I have around 500 AOL DVD-holder's with the stickers stripped off, but no AOL cds. On the other hand, I have almost all of my old Linux versions, just backed up for silly reasons. Not to mention I have a few Microsoft CDs I'm going to throw out. I didn't realize "Wine with Julia Child" was an integral part of using a computer.
Seeka
If you are going to make a laptop keyboard ergonomic, focus on making it bigger and more expandable first. There's nothing more cramping than having to fit five fingers in a four inch space. Perhaps a keyboard that pulled out to it's full capacity once the laptop was settled? Just an idea.
Seeka
We're going to have one more Jurassic Park sequel. I can imagine it now... Jurrasic Park: AI Attacks!
Seeka
It should really be observed that 'I, Cringely' is on the list of Slashboxes. I can't believe this was posted in the news, when so many other good articles of his didn't get submitted by viewers who were *just browsing*. I'm suprised the editor didn't catch this as well.
Seeka
$14.95 a month? I doubt it. I mean, I have enough money to do that, but when I can just as easily write a program that would search for an mp3 I wanted? No way. Perhaps $8/mo, but that'd only work for so long. All these 13 year old kids are going to want some way to download things really cheap. I still remember downloading Photoshop, just because of the high price tag. So many people wanted it, it was easily crackable (client-side security doesn't work!), and I think that's what is going to happen with MP3s.
Remember, about a day after WMAs got released, someone put out a [fuck.exe] that removed the copy protection.
Seeka
I'm not at all suprised. All I ever heard on the news was "Napster and MP3.com's MyMP3.com". I don't doubt that the music industry will win out if they propose solutions that will make it not worth the time. (Downloadable music for $3 a month, say).
Seeka
Do these things come auto-equipped with cruise control?
Seeka
I'm glad the X-Files are coming back, but they didn't have to cancel the lone gunman. In my opinion, the downfall of the show was when they put it on Friday. I just have Sunday nights reserved for Fox. Friday's are more NBC-based. ;)
Seeka
We should all light a candle and take a picture from outerspace to represent the current structure of the WWW. This is cool news.
Seeka
I think getting yourself shipped somewhere else sounds like a good idea, if that's your only option. I'd still look, though. There's more than one way to skin a penguin.
Seeka
I think the problem with this super-media is it's price. Sure, you can go buy a DVD disc for $20, but when CD-Rs are running at $.20 a peice, why bother? I sure as hell am going for the cheap alternative, even if it takes me a tiny bit of exchange time. However, I'm never one to turn down new technologies. Then again, they said Rambus would be super-great too. So far, the benchmarks are saying otherwise.
Seeka
This is on Slashdot for a couple of reasons. Namely, if you've read the FAQ, they post news that they feel is reflective to the general community. Obviously, by even entering this thread, you have some interest. Most of us probably had to deal with this same bullshit when we were younger, and therefore makes a good psychological discussion peice. I don't see why it wouldn't be on Slashdot, it makes total sense that it reflects the general population.
Seeka
I disagree. Simply said.
Seeka
This happens forever, over and over. The idiots of society (read: Gomfie) piss off people and drive them to insanity. When the authorities, the people that should be proud of these kids for learning shit, rebel against them, and hurt them.. What other choice is left? I surely don't think a 13 year old has many choices, especially when thrown into an environment where they can never function.
Seeka
Not that us creative/smart individuals don't have enough pressure on us from the community at large, but we also have to deal with authority. It's total bullshit that all of us have to go through this, and you know, it's not fair. I'm sick of the politics, the prejudices, and the indeniable stupidity of the world.
Guess what will happen? People will weep about this for a couple days, think about it, then move on. Nobody ever thinks about what impact their little comments have on society, especially those who are so irresponsibly immature. I would say just to throw them all in a jailcell, but I'm sure that would be per to some ignorant politicans wishes, as well.
Seeka
Who cares what other people think? Linux will still be there. People who care will still write code for it. Linux will continue to get better. Anyone who doesn't use it is losing out but it's their loss, not yours. Wrong! By not being a popular operating system, we loose a lot of support in the "driver" front, and although populating Linux through the newbie community might be a bad idea, you'll probably reach a few techies that will implement Windows technologies on Linux. I'd say one of the big problems right now with Linux is it's inability to adapt to new technologies, like Windows can. Sure, Windows is about as versatile as Mandrake in the auto-detection front, but they have companies making drivers for them so it works. Example? I can't use Linux on my newly-bought OEM machine because it includes Ultra ATA/100 support on the motherboard. I'm not certain this is the problem, of course, but Windows seems to work fine with it. Right now, if I tell someone I'm going to buy them a computer, they automatically assume it includes something from Bill Gates, the rich guy. The whole point of getting interested is so that Linux does not get pushed through, and only marketed to "techies who want a toy". We need it not only to be "not old technology", but we need it to lead the way as a standard precdent. We'll be the DDR SDRam against the RDRam struggle. (Cheaper/Faster) Linux will continue to get better, but there is harm in thinking that you can keep it all to yourself.
Seeka
... and we have an IBM commertial.
Seeka