NDA's are nice...but I've seen them ignored and nothing much could be done about it, unless your company is a BIG one with some powerful attorney's and deep pockets.
Free hint, corporate America - I don't need the actual code in-hand to walk away with anything actually worth stealing from your code.
The implementation amounts to nothing more than mere documentation, to a skilled programmer. The underlying concepts hold all the value, and once I've seen them, you can't make me un-see them. "Oh, what a cool way to schedule garbage collection without sacrificing soft-realtime I/O responsiveness! I'll have to remember that one!" - Done. Your one jewel-amongst-the-dross just became mine.
So whether enforceable or not, the NDA has a hell of a lot more practical use here, as opposed to trying to control physical access to your preeeciousss source code.
The fact that calories instead of joules are used to measure energy stored in food shows that no genuinely new research was done in that area since nineteenth century.
I know, right? Much like all those silly 19th-century-throwback MPG ratings on cars - Those crazy ol' Hollow-Earthers at Tesla and Toyota might as well measure it in furlongs per hogshead of whale-oil!
/ Okay, MPG actually does suffer from many of the same problems as food calories, but KMPL suffers from exactly the same problems despite using nice modern SI units.
Those companies argued that the program impermissibly targets retail customers.
I have to at least partially agree with that argument - Why the hell can't I cash in this, since my home demand curve almost exactly reverses the grid demand curve?
Because if I ever thought I could get away with it, I'd drag Randall Rothenburg (hell, include 98% of his entire industry in that) into a dark alley and kneecap the worthless piece of shit.
And I'd still hold the moral high-ground vs what he does for a living.
Spam is percieved by the recipient, not whomever sends it.
Funny thing about words - They actually have meanings that you don't randomly get to pick to support your entirely fatuous position.
And by the way: How the heck did your response get marked insightful ? Its acually the very opposite of it.
Because I would dare say that most of us can pull up our big-boy undies and just not click the "share" button. If your professional victimhood counts as the most interesting thing about you, however, I can see why you might not appreciate that possibility.
Whoah, put down them irons, cowboy! You can just ignore it when Amazon asks if you want to share your purchase. You don't even need to say "no", you just move along with whatever you wanted to do next.
I hate spam as much as the next guy, but "don't click the goddamned share this button" falls juuust tad short of sending 50M emails a day about Chinese V1@gra.
without stopping to think "do my friends really give a shit?"
So, basically no different from the entire rest of Facebook?
"I just ate a bag of Doritos" - I don't give a shit.
"Look at these pictures of my new puppy/baby/ocelot/car/hairstyle" - I don't give a shit.
"I just bought a new Dyson Vacuum on Amazon" - I don't give a shit.
"Sally has just changed her relationship status to emotional blackmail" - I don't give a shit.
"I just took a great big shit" - Nope, I still don't give a shit.
No. I don't want any alternative services from you fucking parasites. I have auto insurance because my state requires me to, simple as that. The second I can kick you leeches to the curb, we no longer have a "relationship".
Don't offer me coupons, don't offer me maps, don't offer me roadside assistance, don't offer me advice - "Offer" me your absence. Just dry up and blow away like a good little obsolete industry should.
It might make more sense to think of the blockchain not as "a" third-party, but rather, the aggregate universe of third-parties.
No one "owns" it, no one controls it, no "master" copy of it exists anywhere. Instead, it exists as a distributed collection of every BTC transaction ever made, with each distinct block contributed by a random miner.
Or put another way, fish need water to live. You can't really call the ocean a "third party" to their life-cycle.
They haven't "subcontracted" anything to child miners, as nicely inflammatory as that sounds. They bought batteries, simple as that.
And the battery manufacturer didn't subcontract to child miners - They bought individual mass-produced cells and wired them into the desired form factor and electrical characteristics.
And the battery cell manufacturer didn't subcontract to child miner - They bought the various electrolytes and pre-made membranes that get wrapped up and turned into individual battery cells.
And the electrolyte manufacturers didn't subcontract to child miners - They bought simple precursor chemicals that they use as feedstock in producing highly specialized battery electrolytes.
And the precursor chemical manufacturers - Think names like DOW, DuPont, BASF, Exxon, Eastman, etc - didn't subcontract to child miners - They bought cobalt metal on the open commodities market and turned it into convenient, commonly used reagents that have a million and one downstream applications.
Now - The cobalt refiners, theymight have bought directly from the mining companies that in turn use child labor. Of course, they no doubt buy from a huge pool of mostly-legitimate miners and don't have the resources to police every hole in the ground that sends them the occasional barrel of crushed ore.
But yeah, let's blame Samsung here for one small portion of a looong supply chain over which they have little control beyond their immediate vendors.
We already have an amazingly effective drug that targets the body's cannabinoid receptors - Cannabis.
Except, Bial ("unnamed"? WTF, when did Slashdot start trying to protect the guilty?) can't patent good ol' Mary Jane, so instead we have six healthy people's brains destroyed in the name of the almighty Euro.
When I write up a code snippet to answer a question on a website, I get to decide how I want to license that. Not the website... And almost this exact argument has gone to court, BTW - Adobe can't claim any rights whatsoever to Photoshops just because their creators used an Adobe product to make them. Call me crazy, but somehow I doubt the courts would consider the use of a text input box to write a forum post as granting more rights to the tool-maker than they do with Photoshop.
And when I write up a code snippet to answer a question on Stack Overflow, I consider it completely public domain. I give up any and all rights to that code. Go grab it and "Hello World" your little heart out without giving me a lick of credit.
Now - Whether or not that now violates SO's ToS, yes, SO can decide that it does and ban me from contributing. But they don't get to tell me how I copyright my own created works (aka "posts").
Before everybody gets in a big huff, this applies only to devices the employer owns and lets employees use, not personal devices employees bring to work.
My employer has given me a phone, a laptop, a tablet, and a VPN router, all of which I need to care for and feed regularly, outside of normal business hours and (usually) in my own home.
Does it seem reasonable that I need to maintain duplicates of those devices for personal use? And if I pick up the "wrong" iPad while still at home and in private, accidentally visit "www.voteberniesanders2016.com" with it (political preference does not count as a protected class in the US), does it seem reasonable that my employer not only monitor that but could potentially fire me for it?
Before everybody goes all Johnny-Law-And-Order in favor of our corporate masters, keep in mind that the line between "devices the employer owns" and "BYOD" (bought at a discount through my employer's group plan, BTW) has become increasingly blurry, and will continue to blur further.
I never want a fridge with a "warmer-cooler" knob again.
I have never had a fridge with one of those knobs fail to behave as expected. Meanwhile, my current fridge (which I hate) keeps "saving" me from myself by raising the set temperature of the refrigerator part so nothing freezes - Except it has an error of almost 5C, so instead everything stays slightly warmer than entirely safe.
I can hardly wait to have everything part of the IoT! So when can I get Grandma's oxygen generator online? And hey, I need an excuse to clean out the fridge more often anyway, software updates making all the food rot should give me that extra motivation I need.
More seriously, I see a coming resurgence in 100% analog appliances as more and more digital ones become vulnerable to "bugs" (Nest) or vendor lockout (Hue) or actively recalled content (Kindle) - And that doesn't even consider active attacks by malicious entities (whether private or governmental).
1) How the hell does that fall under the ATF's jurisdiction?
2) Who dumps something they can sell as a (heating) fuel?
3) Does Seattle actually have that much of a problem with french fries that they need federal intervention?
4) Why can't you dump a biodegradable substance? Better bulldozed into an empty lot than rotting in a landfill for 150 years...
Of course, on the flip side of this, we routinely get announcements on Slashdot about the latest drama in the WidgetM@ster9500 community, with absolutely no context, explanation of what that means, where it runs (Does it run? Do you code in it? Do you store things in it? Do you spread it on toast?), or why we should care.
So actually, I'll give the OP a pass on this one, at least they tried...:)
We need this because... People needed more encouragement to take the single most despised style of picture in all of human history?
And in other news, Microsoft has released a new app called "Fingernails On A Chalkboard" - Just swipe across the screen to play along with your favorite songs! And for the real connoisseurs, it comes with "styrofoam in a box" and "autotune" modes.
So when you get the scanners removed and a terrorist blows up a plane I flying on - I assume you'll explain to my daughter why daddy isn't coming home?
Yup. "See honey, the government already knows almost every legitimate threat against it, but in the interests of keeping their data collection methods a secret, they let your daddy die."
Of course, even that ignores the fact that you have literally a 100x higher risk of dying on your ride to the airport, than you do of dying in a terrorist attack.
Slashdot Mirror
get over yourself. Your post contributed close to nothing as well
Actually, it did contribute something - It answered the exact same question I - and likely many others - had.
Thank you, Plover, for providing the single most useful bit of information about this story!
Dear friends and family... I look at porn. So do you. Deal with it.
Blackmail me now, suckah!
NDA's are nice...but I've seen them ignored and nothing much could be done about it, unless your company is a BIG one with some powerful attorney's and deep pockets.
Free hint, corporate America - I don't need the actual code in-hand to walk away with anything actually worth stealing from your code.
The implementation amounts to nothing more than mere documentation, to a skilled programmer. The underlying concepts hold all the value, and once I've seen them, you can't make me un-see them. "Oh, what a cool way to schedule garbage collection without sacrificing soft-realtime I/O responsiveness! I'll have to remember that one!" - Done. Your one jewel-amongst-the-dross just became mine.
So whether enforceable or not, the NDA has a hell of a lot more practical use here, as opposed to trying to control physical access to your preeeciousss source code.
The fact that calories instead of joules are used to measure energy stored in food shows that no genuinely new research was done in that area since nineteenth century.
I know, right? Much like all those silly 19th-century-throwback MPG ratings on cars - Those crazy ol' Hollow-Earthers at Tesla and Toyota might as well measure it in furlongs per hogshead of whale-oil!
/ Okay, MPG actually does suffer from many of the same problems as food calories, but KMPL suffers from exactly the same problems despite using nice modern SI units.
Those companies argued that the program impermissibly targets retail customers.
I have to at least partially agree with that argument - Why the hell can't I cash in this, since my home demand curve almost exactly reverses the grid demand curve?
I did say "if I thought I could get away with it".
For all I know, Rothenburg could wipe the floor with me. Only expressing the will, not the ability.
Because if I ever thought I could get away with it, I'd drag Randall Rothenburg (hell, include 98% of his entire industry in that) into a dark alley and kneecap the worthless piece of shit.
And I'd still hold the moral high-ground vs what he does for a living.
Spam is percieved by the recipient, not whomever sends it.
Funny thing about words - They actually have meanings that you don't randomly get to pick to support your entirely fatuous position.
And by the way: How the heck did your response get marked insightful ? Its acually the very opposite of it.
Because I would dare say that most of us can pull up our big-boy undies and just not click the "share" button. If your professional victimhood counts as the most interesting thing about you, however, I can see why you might not appreciate that possibility.
Whoah, put down them irons, cowboy! You can just ignore it when Amazon asks if you want to share your purchase. You don't even need to say "no", you just move along with whatever you wanted to do next.
I hate spam as much as the next guy, but "don't click the goddamned share this button" falls juuust tad short of sending 50M emails a day about Chinese V1@gra.
without stopping to think "do my friends really give a shit?"
So, basically no different from the entire rest of Facebook?
"I just ate a bag of Doritos" - I don't give a shit.
"Look at these pictures of my new puppy/baby/ocelot/car/hairstyle" - I don't give a shit.
"I just bought a new Dyson Vacuum on Amazon" - I don't give a shit.
"Sally has just changed her relationship status to emotional blackmail" - I don't give a shit.
"I just took a great big shit" - Nope, I still don't give a shit.
No. I don't want any alternative services from you fucking parasites. I have auto insurance because my state requires me to, simple as that. The second I can kick you leeches to the curb, we no longer have a "relationship".
Don't offer me coupons, don't offer me maps, don't offer me roadside assistance, don't offer me advice - "Offer" me your absence. Just dry up and blow away like a good little obsolete industry should.
Every single last one of them, from Satoshi down.
I know - Like that fuckin' Santa Claus, the worthless slaver... Don't ever take your eyes off the corrupt bastard!
It might make more sense to think of the blockchain not as "a" third-party, but rather, the aggregate universe of third-parties.
No one "owns" it, no one controls it, no "master" copy of it exists anywhere. Instead, it exists as a distributed collection of every BTC transaction ever made, with each distinct block contributed by a random miner.
Or put another way, fish need water to live. You can't really call the ocean a "third party" to their life-cycle.
They haven't "subcontracted" anything to child miners, as nicely inflammatory as that sounds. They bought batteries, simple as that.
And the battery manufacturer didn't subcontract to child miners - They bought individual mass-produced cells and wired them into the desired form factor and electrical characteristics.
And the battery cell manufacturer didn't subcontract to child miner - They bought the various electrolytes and pre-made membranes that get wrapped up and turned into individual battery cells.
And the electrolyte manufacturers didn't subcontract to child miners - They bought simple precursor chemicals that they use as feedstock in producing highly specialized battery electrolytes.
And the precursor chemical manufacturers - Think names like DOW, DuPont, BASF, Exxon, Eastman, etc - didn't subcontract to child miners - They bought cobalt metal on the open commodities market and turned it into convenient, commonly used reagents that have a million and one downstream applications.
Now - The cobalt refiners, they might have bought directly from the mining companies that in turn use child labor. Of course, they no doubt buy from a huge pool of mostly-legitimate miners and don't have the resources to police every hole in the ground that sends them the occasional barrel of crushed ore.
But yeah, let's blame Samsung here for one small portion of a looong supply chain over which they have little control beyond their immediate vendors.
Atmospherist!
/ Triggered
"Blame" cannabis? No. Blame greed and patent law.
We already have an amazingly effective drug that targets the body's cannabinoid receptors - Cannabis.
Except, Bial ("unnamed"? WTF, when did Slashdot start trying to protect the guilty?) can't patent good ol' Mary Jane, so instead we have six healthy people's brains destroyed in the name of the almighty Euro.
When I write up a code snippet to answer a question on a website, I get to decide how I want to license that. Not the website... And almost this exact argument has gone to court, BTW - Adobe can't claim any rights whatsoever to Photoshops just because their creators used an Adobe product to make them. Call me crazy, but somehow I doubt the courts would consider the use of a text input box to write a forum post as granting more rights to the tool-maker than they do with Photoshop.
And when I write up a code snippet to answer a question on Stack Overflow, I consider it completely public domain. I give up any and all rights to that code. Go grab it and "Hello World" your little heart out without giving me a lick of credit.
Now - Whether or not that now violates SO's ToS, yes, SO can decide that it does and ban me from contributing. But they don't get to tell me how I copyright my own created works (aka "posts").
Before everybody gets in a big huff, this applies only to devices the employer owns and lets employees use, not personal devices employees bring to work.
My employer has given me a phone, a laptop, a tablet, and a VPN router, all of which I need to care for and feed regularly, outside of normal business hours and (usually) in my own home.
Does it seem reasonable that I need to maintain duplicates of those devices for personal use? And if I pick up the "wrong" iPad while still at home and in private, accidentally visit "www.voteberniesanders2016.com" with it (political preference does not count as a protected class in the US), does it seem reasonable that my employer not only monitor that but could potentially fire me for it?
Before everybody goes all Johnny-Law-And-Order in favor of our corporate masters, keep in mind that the line between "devices the employer owns" and "BYOD" (bought at a discount through my employer's group plan, BTW) has become increasingly blurry, and will continue to blur further.
Not with thermostats
I wouldn't bet the farm on that one....
I never want a fridge with a "warmer-cooler" knob again.
I have never had a fridge with one of those knobs fail to behave as expected. Meanwhile, my current fridge (which I hate) keeps "saving" me from myself by raising the set temperature of the refrigerator part so nothing freezes - Except it has an error of almost 5C, so instead everything stays slightly warmer than entirely safe.
I can hardly wait to have everything part of the IoT! So when can I get Grandma's oxygen generator online? And hey, I need an excuse to clean out the fridge more often anyway, software updates making all the food rot should give me that extra motivation I need.
More seriously, I see a coming resurgence in 100% analog appliances as more and more digital ones become vulnerable to "bugs" (Nest) or vendor lockout (Hue) or actively recalled content (Kindle) - And that doesn't even consider active attacks by malicious entities (whether private or governmental).
Grease dumping? Grease dumping?
1) How the hell does that fall under the ATF's jurisdiction?
2) Who dumps something they can sell as a (heating) fuel?
3) Does Seattle actually have that much of a problem with french fries that they need federal intervention?
4) Why can't you dump a biodegradable substance? Better bulldozed into an empty lot than rotting in a landfill for 150 years...
Of course, on the flip side of this, we routinely get announcements on Slashdot about the latest drama in the WidgetM@ster9500 community, with absolutely no context, explanation of what that means, where it runs (Does it run? Do you code in it? Do you store things in it? Do you spread it on toast?), or why we should care.
:)
So actually, I'll give the OP a pass on this one, at least they tried...
I will personally rip that mic out of your pocket.
Your arms must get tired from confiscating cellphones from everyone around.
Who the hell actually wears a "wire" these days? You just start a new voice memo, lock the phone, and stick it back in your pocket.
We need this because... People needed more encouragement to take the single most despised style of picture in all of human history?
And in other news, Microsoft has released a new app called "Fingernails On A Chalkboard" - Just swipe across the screen to play along with your favorite songs! And for the real connoisseurs, it comes with "styrofoam in a box" and "autotune" modes.
So when you get the scanners removed and a terrorist blows up a plane I flying on - I assume you'll explain to my daughter why daddy isn't coming home?
Yup. "See honey, the government already knows almost every legitimate threat against it, but in the interests of keeping their data collection methods a secret, they let your daddy die."
Of course, even that ignores the fact that you have literally a 100x higher risk of dying on your ride to the airport, than you do of dying in a terrorist attack.