I know, right? Expecting people to pay back the loans they agreed to... And even threatening to *gasp* take back big-ticket items like houses and cars used as collateral for the mortgages? Might as well just give out bank-branded kneecapping sticks, amirite?
Banks certainly have their flaws, and make no mistake, we have some outright bad-actors like Wells Fargo. But as a whole, I have zero sympathy for people whining that their creditors actually dare to expect repayment. If you can't afford something, don't buy it.
Well, I still haven't seen any smoking guns just yet
Really???
So if CowboyNeil came out and admitted to editing your posts because he disagrees with your politics, would you have a problem with that?
This isn't speculation, Spez admitted to depriving Reddit of its default protections under 47 U.S.C. 230. Spez didn't just commit a minor faux pas, he opened Reddit-the-company to serious legal liability as a result of his thin skin.
He then got caught in a leaked chat transcriptconspiring with a handful of top default mods to find a way to ban T_D (y'know, the only sub openly supporting the goddamned president-elect of the United States of Fucking America without pissing off the userbase too much.
And you want a smoking gun? Hey, does this video footage of the gun firing repeatedly count?
/ Jesus, when will Slashdot allow HTML entities, never mind actual *gasp* Unicode!
I don't even keep location services turned on except when I need to use my phone as a GPS, never mind allow any apps to access it.
Why the hell would I want to share my location with Uber? Oh, right - "Location data could also be used to provide new channels of revenue for the digital platform. This could include serving ads of local businesses". Yeah, kindly fuck right off, Uber.
VMs are a great thing - You can actually test your backups from 30 years ago without committing more than token resources to the task. Windows 2020? No, it runs just fine in CP/M 3.1, thanks!
And although you make a technically-valid point about "licensed", let's not kid ourselves - Does your company not insist on a "reasonable access to our own data in perpetuity" clause? If not, fire your lawyers ASAP; and even then, you have a 0% chance of getting caught for mounting an old server without network access for an hour to pull off some ancient data (yes, that would be "wrong", add it to the 27 other "wrong" things we all do on a daily basis).
in the 80's and 90's, many businesses required their workers to save all paper invoices going back 10 years for audit
Okay... That might still have made sense in the 80s. By the 90s I'd have called it already an archaic throwback in the name of "because we've always done it that way". And the 90s ended seventeen years ago.
it is also much easier for a careless worker to catastrophically delete ALL electronic invoices with a single keystroke
If the average worker even has the power to do that, you already have a much, much bigger problem than whether or not you use paper. Heck, even with physical access to the server room and all the passwords I could ever want, the worst I could intentionally do would only involve the loss of one day's work and require my replacement to request a copy of yesterday's backup set (and maybe some new hardware if I went crazy with a fire-axe).
and not being able to work more than 40 hours a week without massive complaints!
Not a millennial, but I think you've intentionally ignored the reasons for that, in both directions. First, they can work far more than 40 hours (and will, in pursuit of their own interests). They just have no interest in wasting their time trying to prove their loyalty to a company they know will send them packing at the first sign of an economic downturn. And second, they ridicule the idea of religiously working nine-to-five, five days a week, fifty weeks a year, for forty years, because they never unplug. If they spend three hours of "their own" time every day answering emails or researching work problems, why should they still sit in a chair for eight hours just to humor a PHB that can't move beyond the mindset of "if I can't see you, you must not be working"?
I work with quite a few people who "need" to print things every day.
First of all, the vast majority of things they print don't require printing in the first place. As an almost stereotypical example, we have one lady who:
* Prints out every PO (that she creates in our ERP system) and puts it in filing cabinet #1.
* When she gets a packing slip, she manually matches them up, staples them together, moves them to cabinet #2, then records the PO as received in the ERP.
* Then when the invoice comes... Ditto, cabinet 3 (if she receives it by email, she actually prints that so she can physically staple them together).
* When she sends payment to the vendor... cabinet 4.
* Finally, when the payment clears, she stamps it as processed and files it away forever in the dungeon, "just in case" she needs to reference it sometime in 2046.
I've tried explaining that she can run a recon right in the ERP for every single phase of that, including attaching emails/PDFs/whatever directly to the workflow, but she doesn't "trust" the computer (aka "once upon a time I screwed up and deleted something, so I'll just do the whole damned thing by hand until the end of time").
Second, also related to trusting computers - I've shown people how to print to PDF. Nope, computer might crash (mind you, we have reliable offsite backups going back to the frickin' 1980s).
Finally, people seem to have a disconnect between the idea of computer files vs paper files. How could they ever find that one invoice among thousands of PDFs? Because y'know, you can't just organize them exactly the same way you do paper files, never mind the fact that you can just search for any bit of text in the document and almost instantly find every reference to WidgetCo going back to the beginning of time.
The paperless office will eventually exist. It just won't arrive until the Boomers and their hatred of trees finally gets the hell out of the workforce.
The US hasn't actually charged Assange with anything. Obama can't pardon someone for crimes that don't exist; he also can't pardon someone on behalf of another country (Sweden).
All the major auto manufacturers have abused the DMCA when it comes to their computers, and I vehemently oppose that (but good luck finding a car that doesn't apply to)...
But this? This moves us into a whole different ballpark of abuse.
Fourth'ing the GGGP - I had fully planned to buy a Tesla as my next car (probably five-ish years from now). If this policy stands, despite having no intention of ever actually renting my car out, fuck Tesla.
blindingly fast peak download speeds of around 5Gbps.
And why, exactly, would I want that? So I can hit my monthly data cap in a mere 16 seconds?
Oh, but the carriers will increase caps accordingly? Bullshit. My cap went from "nonexistent" before 3G, to "10GB EVDO throttled down to unlimited 1xRTT" with 3G, to "10GB +$10/GB" with 4G. I don't see the carriers as likely to give up easy money just because new tech means we can rack up overage charges even faster.
I appreciate the lesson in pronunciation (sincerely, I don't mean that as sarcasm); but TFA didn't pull that particular transliteration out of their asses - The Western world has used "Asgard" as the standard spelling for at least a century.
Sometimes, we don't get it right - Tao Te Ching. Bane Sidhe. The entire Welsh language... This "project" has sooo much more wrong with it than the name, no need to resort to picking nits.:)
I fall into this group, and while the reason definitely involves "frustration", it has nothing to do with stupidity or difficulty learning the new system. Instead, I use my tablet for navigation in my car for one very, very trivial reason:
Easy to say, not so easy to do when it happens to you.
For starters, having a job makes it much, much easier to find a new one. Telling your employer to go pound sand has a way of leading to unemployment in short order.
Second, very few Americans have any sort of massive bank of accrued leave; meaning unless they keep working, two weeks from now, they stop getting paid.
And finally, companies often make these situations too good to turn down - Train your replacement, and we'll give you a bonus of six+ months' salary, but only if you stay until they tell you to.
Sure, we may all feel morally indignant about these situations, but how many of us would really choose "unemployment" over a check for $80k? I'd dare say not very many.
No, My Gentle Fool, there isn't. It is entirely possible that 1-2-3-4-5 could be _Everybody's_ Password.
You've missed my point entirely. "12345" is the fifth numeric password an attacker would try (after "1", "12", "123", and "1234"). It doesn't matter how securely you store it or how long each guess takes, if an attacker has a reasonably high chance of guessing it by a mere educated guess.
Sure, you could lock the account after X guesses - But then you've just given me a trivial way of locking out the legitimate account-holder as well - Arguably, a lot of kids just out to raise some hell rather than seriously wanting to compromise your accounts would prefer that (applied on as large a scale as possible) than actually guessing the right password. "Oh, look, we just locked the entire Microsoft staff out of their own network, ha-ha!"
Any Password, hashed in any number of many ways repeatedly, and yet each one with a unique Time Stamp embedded and invisible, should do the trick.
That accomplishes nothing more than slowing down any brute force attempts. It certainly doesn't somehow magically make one of the top few million passwords more secure. Or, looked at another way, let's say you use such a horrendously complex hash that each guess takes a whole second. You've just handed any potential attackers a trivial on/off switch to DOS'ing (no leading "D" required) your site, as your poor server farm tries to keep up with just a handful of bad login attempts per second.
Time Stamps supposedly assigned to certain Alpha Decay Chains stuck out like three sore thumbs upon later Analysis.
Would you care to provide a link on how timestamped audit trails have anything to do with brute-force password cracking? It sounds like you've mixed up two separate concepts here. Yes, you can make an RTPS virtually tamper-proof; that doesn't have much in common with proving my identity to Facebook from a previously untrusted computer.
What form of "properly hashed and securely stored" would make a five character numeric-only password even remotely acceptable?
Mind you, I don't disagree with your premise - The problem here has nothing to do with end-users, and everything to do with expecting them to remember over a hundred distinct "secure" passwords. But that glaring flaw aside (which leads people to use the least secure password a site will let them, and reuse it at every site they can), there *is* still such a thing as a pathetically weak password.
We've all seen, and can debate the exact accuracy of the relevant XKCD strip, but the general idea holds true - We'd all do a hell of a lot better to use memorable three to five word phrases, than trying to squeeze something we can almost remember into leetspeak with an extra random character or two tacked on at the end.
I largely play "Idle" games these days, lacking the time to really get into much more involved than that... And even there you'll find a die-hard community that considers anything other than manually sitting there for hours at a time and clicking furiously as "cheating" (in games where the core mechanic amounts to "level up your resource-producers and come back tomorrow to do it again").
Mind you, many such games' devs have gone so far as to provide straightforward javascript hooks solely for the purpose of more efficient botting; but, good luck arguing that with a purist.
/ (and show me a human who claims to legitimately have the "click a million times" achievement in any game, and I'll show you a liar with an autoclicker.;)
"Registrant Organization: IMDb.com, Inc.
Registrant Street: Legal Dept, PO Box 81226,
Registrant City: Seattle
Registrant State/Province: WA"
Dear California: How about "go fuck yourself". That a good answer?
Oh, you don't want IMDB operating in your state? Perhaps you could build some sort of Great Firewall. That's worked out so well for China (and North Korea).
Back in my college days, we had a saying about student-run experimental design: "Psychology is the study of females ages 18 to 22 with above-average intellect and an interest in psychology".
Although that does mean you need to eventually check your results on a larger, more random pool of participants, it doesn't flat-out make those first-round results invalid. It just means you can get (at least) two papers out of the same results, verifying (or refuting) the external validity of the initial results.;)
The more data that people use in aggregate, the more capacity that Verizon has to build or everyone's data slows down.
Bandwidth does not equal monthly usage.
If Verizon said "we want to implement a time-of-day based surcharge to help reduce network congestion", we could reasonably discuss the merits of using financial rather than technical means of throttling heavy users.
Charging me per GB of 2am Windows updates, however, counts as nothing short of rent seeking via regulatory capture. Every single unused bit of capacity of my nearest cell tower gets wasted forever. It neither costs Verizon more, not saves them a penny, to ever have a tower sitting idle; and thanks to a complete (intentional) failure of the FCC to properly allocate spectrum as a public good, you and I can't simply say "screw you, Verizon, I'll put up my own cell network!"
The entire concept of paying per multiple of hamburgers is ridiculous anyway.
I know, right? Because, just like bandwidth, hamburgers come off an endless conveyor-belt steadily spitting out X million hamburgers per second and each one that doesn't get scooped up and eaten goes to waste forever!
Now tell us what fraction of the total length of that line actually fell within city limits rather than "middle of the ocean/desert"?
And that woefully low number comes from a line you cherry-picked. Try again by throwing two darts at a map and draw your line through them - Repeat. Repeat. Now tell us what fraction of those lines ever even intersect a city.
Slashdot really needs to ban ACs. You worthless wastes of electrons get less useful and more hostile every year.
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I know, right? Expecting people to pay back the loans they agreed to... And even threatening to *gasp* take back big-ticket items like houses and cars used as collateral for the mortgages? Might as well just give out bank-branded kneecapping sticks, amirite?
Banks certainly have their flaws, and make no mistake, we have some outright bad-actors like Wells Fargo. But as a whole, I have zero sympathy for people whining that their creditors actually dare to expect repayment. If you can't afford something, don't buy it.
Well, I still haven't seen any smoking guns just yet
Really???
So if CowboyNeil came out and admitted to editing your posts because he disagrees with your politics, would you have a problem with that?
This isn't speculation, Spez admitted to depriving Reddit of its default protections under 47 U.S.C. 230. Spez didn't just commit a minor faux pas, he opened Reddit-the-company to serious legal liability as a result of his thin skin.
He then got caught in a leaked chat transcript conspiring with a handful of top default mods to find a way to ban T_D (y'know, the only sub openly supporting the goddamned president-elect of the United States of Fucking America without pissing off the userbase too much.
And you want a smoking gun? Hey, does this video footage of the gun firing repeatedly count?
/ Jesus, when will Slashdot allow HTML entities, never mind actual *gasp* Unicode!
I don't even keep location services turned on except when I need to use my phone as a GPS, never mind allow any apps to access it.
Why the hell would I want to share my location with Uber? Oh, right - "Location data could also be used to provide new channels of revenue for the digital platform. This could include serving ads of local businesses". Yeah, kindly fuck right off, Uber.
Quite. It wculd if it worked. It doesn't work.
Those worthless morons at NASA apparently disagree with you. As would the British, Chinese and Germans.
VMs are a great thing - You can actually test your backups from 30 years ago without committing more than token resources to the task. Windows 2020? No, it runs just fine in CP/M 3.1, thanks!
And although you make a technically-valid point about "licensed", let's not kid ourselves - Does your company not insist on a "reasonable access to our own data in perpetuity" clause? If not, fire your lawyers ASAP; and even then, you have a 0% chance of getting caught for mounting an old server without network access for an hour to pull off some ancient data (yes, that would be "wrong", add it to the 27 other "wrong" things we all do on a daily basis).
in the 80's and 90's, many businesses required their workers to save all paper invoices going back 10 years for audit
Okay... That might still have made sense in the 80s. By the 90s I'd have called it already an archaic throwback in the name of "because we've always done it that way". And the 90s ended seventeen years ago.
it is also much easier for a careless worker to catastrophically delete ALL electronic invoices with a single keystroke
If the average worker even has the power to do that, you already have a much, much bigger problem than whether or not you use paper. Heck, even with physical access to the server room and all the passwords I could ever want, the worst I could intentionally do would only involve the loss of one day's work and require my replacement to request a copy of yesterday's backup set (and maybe some new hardware if I went crazy with a fire-axe).
and not being able to work more than 40 hours a week without massive complaints!
Not a millennial, but I think you've intentionally ignored the reasons for that, in both directions. First, they can work far more than 40 hours (and will, in pursuit of their own interests). They just have no interest in wasting their time trying to prove their loyalty to a company they know will send them packing at the first sign of an economic downturn. And second, they ridicule the idea of religiously working nine-to-five, five days a week, fifty weeks a year, for forty years, because they never unplug. If they spend three hours of "their own" time every day answering emails or researching work problems, why should they still sit in a chair for eight hours just to humor a PHB that can't move beyond the mindset of "if I can't see you, you must not be working"?
I work with quite a few people who "need" to print things every day.
First of all, the vast majority of things they print don't require printing in the first place. As an almost stereotypical example, we have one lady who:
* Prints out every PO (that she creates in our ERP system) and puts it in filing cabinet #1.
* When she gets a packing slip, she manually matches them up, staples them together, moves them to cabinet #2, then records the PO as received in the ERP.
* Then when the invoice comes... Ditto, cabinet 3 (if she receives it by email, she actually prints that so she can physically staple them together).
* When she sends payment to the vendor... cabinet 4.
* Finally, when the payment clears, she stamps it as processed and files it away forever in the dungeon, "just in case" she needs to reference it sometime in 2046.
I've tried explaining that she can run a recon right in the ERP for every single phase of that, including attaching emails/PDFs/whatever directly to the workflow, but she doesn't "trust" the computer (aka "once upon a time I screwed up and deleted something, so I'll just do the whole damned thing by hand until the end of time").
Second, also related to trusting computers - I've shown people how to print to PDF. Nope, computer might crash (mind you, we have reliable offsite backups going back to the frickin' 1980s).
Finally, people seem to have a disconnect between the idea of computer files vs paper files. How could they ever find that one invoice among thousands of PDFs? Because y'know, you can't just organize them exactly the same way you do paper files, never mind the fact that you can just search for any bit of text in the document and almost instantly find every reference to WidgetCo going back to the beginning of time.
The paperless office will eventually exist. It just won't arrive until the Boomers and their hatred of trees finally gets the hell out of the workforce.
The US hasn't actually charged Assange with anything. Obama can't pardon someone for crimes that don't exist; he also can't pardon someone on behalf of another country (Sweden).
Why the hell do people insist on calling an on-prem NAS a "private cloud"?
"Can I have a glass of water, please?" "Sure, would you like to see our menu of premium bottled rain, or is water from our private indoor river okay?"
All the major auto manufacturers have abused the DMCA when it comes to their computers, and I vehemently oppose that (but good luck finding a car that doesn't apply to)...
But this? This moves us into a whole different ballpark of abuse.
Fourth'ing the GGGP - I had fully planned to buy a Tesla as my next car (probably five-ish years from now). If this policy stands, despite having no intention of ever actually renting my car out, fuck Tesla.
blindingly fast peak download speeds of around 5Gbps.
And why, exactly, would I want that? So I can hit my monthly data cap in a mere 16 seconds?
Oh, but the carriers will increase caps accordingly? Bullshit. My cap went from "nonexistent" before 3G, to "10GB EVDO throttled down to unlimited 1xRTT" with 3G, to "10GB +$10/GB" with 4G. I don't see the carriers as likely to give up easy money just because new tech means we can rack up overage charges even faster.
You consider "rolled oats" poisonous?
I appreciate the lesson in pronunciation (sincerely, I don't mean that as sarcasm); but TFA didn't pull that particular transliteration out of their asses - The Western world has used "Asgard" as the standard spelling for at least a century.
:)
Sometimes, we don't get it right - Tao Te Ching. Bane Sidhe. The entire Welsh language... This "project" has sooo much more wrong with it than the name, no need to resort to picking nits.
Burma-Shave, mother fucker!
This is neither a peer reviewed publication, nor a comp-101 five paragraph expository essay.
It's a stupid online forum, mostly populated by trolls like yourself.
Deal.
I fall into this group, and while the reason definitely involves "frustration", it has nothing to do with stupidity or difficulty learning the new system. Instead, I use my tablet for navigation in my car for one very, very trivial reason:
It doesn't lock me out of using it while moving!
Easy to say, not so easy to do when it happens to you.
For starters, having a job makes it much, much easier to find a new one. Telling your employer to go pound sand has a way of leading to unemployment in short order.
Second, very few Americans have any sort of massive bank of accrued leave; meaning unless they keep working, two weeks from now, they stop getting paid.
And finally, companies often make these situations too good to turn down - Train your replacement, and we'll give you a bonus of six+ months' salary, but only if you stay until they tell you to.
Sure, we may all feel morally indignant about these situations, but how many of us would really choose "unemployment" over a check for $80k? I'd dare say not very many.
No, My Gentle Fool, there isn't. It is entirely possible that 1-2-3-4-5 could be _Everybody's_ Password.
You've missed my point entirely. "12345" is the fifth numeric password an attacker would try (after "1", "12", "123", and "1234"). It doesn't matter how securely you store it or how long each guess takes, if an attacker has a reasonably high chance of guessing it by a mere educated guess.
Sure, you could lock the account after X guesses - But then you've just given me a trivial way of locking out the legitimate account-holder as well - Arguably, a lot of kids just out to raise some hell rather than seriously wanting to compromise your accounts would prefer that (applied on as large a scale as possible) than actually guessing the right password. "Oh, look, we just locked the entire Microsoft staff out of their own network, ha-ha!"
Any Password, hashed in any number of many ways repeatedly, and yet each one with a unique Time Stamp embedded and invisible, should do the trick.
That accomplishes nothing more than slowing down any brute force attempts. It certainly doesn't somehow magically make one of the top few million passwords more secure. Or, looked at another way, let's say you use such a horrendously complex hash that each guess takes a whole second. You've just handed any potential attackers a trivial on/off switch to DOS'ing (no leading "D" required) your site, as your poor server farm tries to keep up with just a handful of bad login attempts per second.
Time Stamps supposedly assigned to certain Alpha Decay Chains stuck out like three sore thumbs upon later Analysis.
Would you care to provide a link on how timestamped audit trails have anything to do with brute-force password cracking? It sounds like you've mixed up two separate concepts here. Yes, you can make an RTPS virtually tamper-proof; that doesn't have much in common with proving my identity to Facebook from a previously untrusted computer.
What form of "properly hashed and securely stored" would make a five character numeric-only password even remotely acceptable?
Mind you, I don't disagree with your premise - The problem here has nothing to do with end-users, and everything to do with expecting them to remember over a hundred distinct "secure" passwords. But that glaring flaw aside (which leads people to use the least secure password a site will let them, and reuse it at every site they can), there *is* still such a thing as a pathetically weak password.
We've all seen, and can debate the exact accuracy of the relevant XKCD strip, but the general idea holds true - We'd all do a hell of a lot better to use memorable three to five word phrases, than trying to squeeze something we can almost remember into leetspeak with an extra random character or two tacked on at the end.
I largely play "Idle" games these days, lacking the time to really get into much more involved than that... And even there you'll find a die-hard community that considers anything other than manually sitting there for hours at a time and clicking furiously as "cheating" (in games where the core mechanic amounts to "level up your resource-producers and come back tomorrow to do it again").
;)
Mind you, many such games' devs have gone so far as to provide straightforward javascript hooks solely for the purpose of more efficient botting; but, good luck arguing that with a purist.
/ (and show me a human who claims to legitimately have the "click a million times" achievement in any game, and I'll show you a liar with an autoclicker.
"Registrant Organization: IMDb.com, Inc.
Registrant Street: Legal Dept, PO Box 81226,
Registrant City: Seattle
Registrant State/Province: WA"
Dear California: How about "go fuck yourself". That a good answer?
Oh, you don't want IMDB operating in your state? Perhaps you could build some sort of Great Firewall. That's worked out so well for China (and North Korea).
Back in my college days, we had a saying about student-run experimental design: "Psychology is the study of females ages 18 to 22 with above-average intellect and an interest in psychology".
;)
Although that does mean you need to eventually check your results on a larger, more random pool of participants, it doesn't flat-out make those first-round results invalid. It just means you can get (at least) two papers out of the same results, verifying (or refuting) the external validity of the initial results.
The more data that people use in aggregate, the more capacity that Verizon has to build or everyone's data slows down.
Bandwidth does not equal monthly usage.
If Verizon said "we want to implement a time-of-day based surcharge to help reduce network congestion", we could reasonably discuss the merits of using financial rather than technical means of throttling heavy users.
Charging me per GB of 2am Windows updates, however, counts as nothing short of rent seeking via regulatory capture. Every single unused bit of capacity of my nearest cell tower gets wasted forever. It neither costs Verizon more, not saves them a penny, to ever have a tower sitting idle; and thanks to a complete (intentional) failure of the FCC to properly allocate spectrum as a public good, you and I can't simply say "screw you, Verizon, I'll put up my own cell network!"
The entire concept of paying per multiple of hamburgers is ridiculous anyway.
I know, right? Because, just like bandwidth, hamburgers come off an endless conveyor-belt steadily spitting out X million hamburgers per second and each one that doesn't get scooped up and eaten goes to waste forever!
Clap Clap Clap.
Now tell us what fraction of the total length of that line actually fell within city limits rather than "middle of the ocean/desert"?
And that woefully low number comes from a line you cherry-picked. Try again by throwing two darts at a map and draw your line through them - Repeat. Repeat. Now tell us what fraction of those lines ever even intersect a city.
Slashdot really needs to ban ACs. You worthless wastes of electrons get less useful and more hostile every year.
I thought China had an official stance of atheism?
;)
Then again... You could probably convince $Deity to pay before China would ever cough up a single dime.