This indicates the many people's opinions about MS are not based on the facts
Ok, let's review a couple of facts: 1. Microsoft doesn't publish the inner workings of AD, CIFS, NTFS, Office File Formats, etc 2. They $upport SCO in the IBM lawsuit
Some other fine examples have been pointed out in other comments above already.
The thing is, MS can talk and talk about "interoperating" and "embracing" all they want, but the *fact* remains that they're not doing anything about it.
"here's that wonderously horrible grey area between unsolicited and solicited spam"
Not really. Spam is, by definition, unsolicited. The fact that somebody has your email address doesn't give them the right to flood you inbox, and bandwidth. You have to give them permission to do so.
Well, it is the receiving server that does the checking actually. The point is if a spammer sets up a domain that ignores SPF, then that particular domain can be known as spam-friendly and can be "safely" blocked. SPF would work well in sort of a weighed-domain scheme, where you keep track of which domains are known to spoof addresses and mass mail so you can take the necesary steps to avoid being spammed. You can see more info here
All of them, I for one live in a third world country and I purchase my dvds via amazon. The dvd player I have is region 1 and they will not catch me alive!!
Hell, we got one here at work serving as a slave named server and has the longest uptime in the server room (after the redhat mail server, of course:))
At least we can see cool development going on. It probably wont be long before it is usable, anyway.
On the other hand I would have preferred having a little less misleading story, I almost got up and danced in front of my friends while singing "there u go b*tches, linux is l337!".
Well, actually, Ecuador is pretty capable of growing its own crops, we do export chocolate, bananas, shrimp and many other stuff. We got approx 12 hours of sounlight everyday, i think thats pretty decent.
There are people here that don't have anything to eat, that is true, but the vast majority of the population has that covered. One can go to the most remote place in the country and find that at least, they eating what they grow from the earth.
If the computers and the cards get here, i hope they are used for education, that's what my country really needs.
So did we. Were i live, computer science classes were merely computer usage classes... I remember playing Another World, Stunts and Doom during those classes, while my classmates struggled against word 6.0 on windows 3.11 and QPro. I was as bored as a county fair horse, so there was no better way to not fall asleep. Obvioiusly such a transgression I would have paid dearly, had I get caught.
Probably games are the main reason i got into CS, so I find it amusing and clever to open up the labs and give a fun use to otherwise idle cpu cycles.
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I completely agree with you, and having such kinds of discussions within the people that make up the stuff we love so much can make them and us better human beings...
What I'm saying is just that we sould not let it affect what is important: the quality and that warm fuzzy feeling you get when you turn on your box and remember it is not one more of those monkey-operated boxes out there...:)
Thanks for replying, dude
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RMS deserves every bit of recognition as anyone who has worked in bringing us this world of choice. Maybe even a little bit more. He has given us tools to work with and they are pretty good; most of us used them happily because they work and are a good alternative. But probably he has already got it: he is world famous, I know a guy who defended his thesis for graduation with a big picture of him as a background. Maybe the three letter issue is nothing compared to what has happened lately in Free Software.
However, he is still a human being, perhaps somewhat louder than others about his beliefs, but I don't think he is a big bad hairy monster. But, maybe we should be aware that mixing up politics with good ideas has been proven dangerous in some cases in the past.
Basically, I don't care what RMS wants to be done with the name of the OS, as long as it doesn't affect the good response times in fixing bugs, the availability of source code, the reliability and the fun of it. It would be hugely painful to see people leaving Linux just because it is not fun anymore, or because they can't agree with someone else, like with FreeBSD lately...
How would Microsoft react if suddenly the open-source community decided that anything under the GNU could not inter-operate with microsoft products?
I believe they would throw a party. Seriously, if the OSS movement wants to compete (as in being a well know choice) it must first has to demonstrate it can interoperate seamlessly with already used products. If for some reason what you say happens, the only one that loses is the OSS movement, MS has already got most of the market anyway... OSS would have shot itself on the foot.
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Ok, let's review a couple of facts:
1. Microsoft doesn't publish the inner workings of AD, CIFS, NTFS, Office File Formats, etc
2. They $upport SCO in the IBM lawsuit
Some other fine examples have been pointed out in other comments above already.
The thing is, MS can talk and talk about "interoperating" and "embracing" all they want, but the *fact* remains that they're not doing anything about it.
I already had one, what surprised me is that it struck me as if gmail had opened up and it still hadn't shown up four times in the main page...
I just browsed through these pages, and saw the registration link for gmail. WTF??
"here's that wonderously horrible grey area between unsolicited and solicited spam"
Not really. Spam is, by definition, unsolicited. The fact that somebody has your email address doesn't give them the right to flood you inbox, and bandwidth. You have to give them permission to do so.
Yep, spanish too. They're quite similar...
According to dig, it is confirmed...
Just do a dig www.google.com
This came to my head instantly...
Don't get me wrong, I like the penguins... it's just funny... Oh well, there goes my karma....
Well, it is the receiving server that does the checking actually. The point is if a spammer sets up a domain that ignores SPF, then that particular domain can be known as spam-friendly and can be "safely" blocked. SPF would work well in sort of a weighed-domain scheme, where you keep track of which domains are known to spoof addresses and mass mail so you can take the necesary steps to avoid being spammed. You can see more info here
All of them, I for one live in a third world country and I purchase my dvds via amazon. The dvd player I have is region 1 and they will not catch me alive!!
*runs, plunges, plays dead*
Including the local copy of the Worm of The Week (TM), too!
>>It'd be cool to see some patches come from Redmond
They are going to bring GPL'ed and Open Sourced Software down by submitting their patches! Oh the humanity!!
Call the Stallminator!
Hell, we got one here at work serving as a slave named server and has the longest uptime in the server room (after the redhat mail server, of course :))
At least we can see cool development going on. It probably wont be long before it is usable, anyway.
/.
On the other hand I would have preferred having a little less misleading story, I almost got up and danced in front of my friends while singing "there u go b*tches, linux is l337!".
But of course, this is
... felt tip marker sales soar through the roof
...in the name of chthulu, did this story get the hp icon?!
Well, actually, Ecuador is pretty capable of growing its own crops, we do export chocolate, bananas, shrimp and many other stuff. We got approx 12 hours of sounlight everyday, i think thats pretty decent.
There are people here that don't have anything to eat, that is true, but the vast majority of the population has that covered. One can go to the most remote place in the country and find that at least, they eating what they grow from the earth.
If the computers and the cards get here, i hope they are used for education, that's what my country really needs.
Me too...
Wait a minute...
I AM ECUADORIAN!!
Some times good things happen to good people, sometimes, they happen to me...
How 'bout this for reducing redundancy...
int list[] = {1, 2, 8, 13, 19};
int idx;
for(idx = 0; idx
Besides, the guy doesn't even know what he's talking about (from the article):
Oh my goodness, and it is from MSNBC.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Exactly, sorry about the other reply (browsing at +2)
...about Minas Tirith and Minas Anor (Morgul)...
Actually I believe, Minas Tirith was formerly called Minas Anor and Minas Morgul was Minas Ithil, if my memory doesn't fail me.
So did we. Were i live, computer science classes were merely computer usage classes... I remember playing Another World, Stunts and Doom during those classes, while my classmates struggled against word 6.0 on windows 3.11 and QPro. I was as bored as a county fair horse, so there was no better way to not fall asleep. Obvioiusly such a transgression I would have paid dearly, had I get caught.
Probably games are the main reason i got into CS, so I find it amusing and clever to open up the labs and give a fun use to otherwise idle cpu cycles.
I completely agree with you, and having such kinds of discussions within the people that make up the stuff we love so much can make them and us better human beings...
:)
What I'm saying is just that we sould not let it affect what is important: the quality and that warm fuzzy feeling you get when you turn on your box and remember it is not one more of those monkey-operated boxes out there...
Thanks for replying, dude
RMS deserves every bit of recognition as anyone who has worked in bringing us this world of choice. Maybe even a little bit more. He has given us tools to work with and they are pretty good; most of us used them happily because they work and are a good alternative. But probably he has already got it: he is world famous, I know a guy who defended his thesis for graduation with a big picture of him as a background. Maybe the three letter issue is nothing compared to what has happened lately in Free Software.
However, he is still a human being, perhaps somewhat louder than others about his beliefs, but I don't think he is a big bad hairy monster. But, maybe we should be aware that mixing up politics with good ideas has been proven dangerous in some cases in the past.
Basically, I don't care what RMS wants to be done with the name of the OS, as long as it doesn't affect the good response times in fixing bugs, the availability of source code, the reliability and the fun of it. It would be hugely painful to see people leaving Linux just because it is not fun anymore, or because they can't agree with someone else, like with FreeBSD lately...
How would Microsoft react if suddenly the open-source community decided that anything under the GNU could not inter-operate with microsoft products?
I believe they would throw a party. Seriously, if the OSS movement wants to compete (as in being a well know choice) it must first has to demonstrate it can interoperate seamlessly with already used products. If for some reason what you say happens, the only one that loses is the OSS movement, MS has already got most of the market anyway... OSS would have shot itself on the foot.