My job requires me to do X, Y and X. I do X, Y, and Z and in the rest of my time I post on Slashdot. My coworker does X, Y, and Z but also does A, B, and C related to our job while I post on Slashdot. My coworker does a better job than me simply by going above and beyond what is required of us.
Seriously, I can't stand halfwit attitudes like, "Well I only do what I am explicitly required to do." Lazy.
Re:from the oxymoron dept...
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Hmmmm, I barely knew the name of the FreeBSD specific CLR implamentation. I don't think anyone seriously uses Rotor or has developed it in the past 2.5 years.
(This brought to you by one of FreeBSD's Mono port maintainers.;)
Hopefully yes... But some ports (including some of my own, see the link, and yes it's on my TODO list) are not prefix safe. Files get lost and occassionally ports fail to build because of other lameness. Setting PREFIX _should_ work but doesn't always.
OpenBSD does package first then install. FreeBSD does install first then package. The former method is useful when you want to build a package on a faster machine that will not be using the package. For example, building Apache on one machine for another slower machine when the fatser machine will never use Apache. The process using FreeBSD on the faster machine is build, install, package, deinstall.
OpenBSD's ports system is geared primarilly towards being a packaging system for the OpenBSD developers where FreeBSD's is more towards a general purpose installation, management, and packing framework. My personal wish is that FreeBSD would move to a portstree structure and management more like OpenBSD's.
The draft is not comming back anytime soon. Most people in government know the uproar that would occur if it did come back. Just like there are limousine liberals there are policy paper conservatives. The type that consider war a great thing unless they have to get shot at.
Personally I think the draft sucks, I don't believe the governmet has the right to decide the justness of a war for me. The US Supreme Court disagrees with me though. At the same time the draft has an upside in making the military more accurately reflect the makeup of the country, something you don't get with the current self-selection. That was the stated motivation for Charlie Rangles (D) proposals to bring back the draft.
Or work for a healthcare software comapny like I do. Our customers rarely go out of bussiness and there's always some new crap that comes along in the industry to keep us busy.
Perhaps teaching Unix to new users? It is, after all, a "fake" environment that looks like the real thing.
Ummmm, looks like the real thing? Wouldn't a shell server be more appropriate for teaching Unix to new users? Something like SDF? A freaking Putty window looks more like "the real thing".
I don't see why anyone modded down the parent of this reply...
I use both Free and Open since those serve my my needs. Haven't found a need for Net not served by the other two so far. I would say that FreeBSD makes a better desktop for me because of the frequent updates to the ports tree. I like having Gnome 2.10 installed and having 2.12 probably ready a few weeks after its release.
On the flipside, I like having OpenBSD on my server box because the ports tree is updated less frequently. Essentially only at release time and then security fixes there after. The shame is when a port doesn't make it into a release and I have to wait another 6 months for an update. That's when things get out of date.
My personal wish is that FreeBSD would take the same approach that OpenBSD had NetBSD have with their ports trees and create a security branch. That would give me the size of the FreeBSD ports tree with the stability of the Open/Net Trees.
Crap, and my mod points are up. I hope someone else understands that refference.
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Well, yes, but it is twisted freedom in the same sense as the freedom to own slaves: you take someone's work but don't reward him/her for it. There must be limits to freedom, otherwise freedom becomes a meaningless concept.
No, the BSD license is more akin to "I agree under my own volition to produce work with no guarenteed compensation in return by those who benefit from my work". Unlike slavery, you're not forced to work without guarenteed compensation. You choose to. Possibly it's because you believe in altruism?
Re:the code of conduct for free software distribut
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Ironic, I argued almost the opposite in another thread on here.:)
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"Well, quite frankly, BSD licensed software is not truly free -- what's the point in free software if you can turn it into a non-free product?"
The BSD license is not truely free because it doesn't contain enough restrictions? I could always counter that the restrictions of the GPL make it not truely free. It's a dead horse but bares repeating, the BSD and GPL exist because of difrerent views about what constitutes freedom. That's life.
Here is my own take on it. The GPL seeks to preserve the freedom of the initial developer at the expense of a third party through the derivitives licensing restriction. The BSD license seeks to preserve the freedom of the third party at the expense of protection for the developer.
What does this all mean? Use what you like best and respect other developers' chosen licenses. If it's different from your favorite, get over it. Debating the ideology behind the two is retarded since they start off and focus and different ground.
Attacks on Windows are created all the time. If maintained properly, it won't have the gaping holes Linux tends to have...
The idea that *NIX = "Inherent Security" is completely retarded. Properly maintained systems are the only secure systems. The differences really worth comparing are in the amount of work it takes to maintain and patch the OS.
I wouldn't classify it as liberal paper in the realm of the NY Times, nor would I consider it a conservative paper in the realm of the Washington Post. I would consider it's editorial page typically left of center. I would also think it's special pieces like Ethical Investing and Empire Builders would appeal to a more liberal crowd. Then again, it has a section on the decline of Christianity in Europe which would probably appeal to a more conservative crowd.
I don't believe there is anything wrong with a newspaper having an editorial or special stories slant. It's when that bias infiltrates the hard news that it is a problem. The CSM does what most media can't seem to accomplish which is provide accurate and fairly unbiased new reporting along with an editorial slant that is not a pitchman for specific political groups.
As someone who actually reads the newspaper regularly, no I wouldn't expect such a simplistic idea from them...
The Christian Science Monitor tends to be one of the more liberal newspapers in the US. I wouldn't classify them ideologically with papers like the Washington Times. The CSM is also not about spreading the the Christian Science church's doctrine. It was started by Mary Baker Eddy to provide fair and accurate reporting. This was a response to attacks on her from a Joseph Pulitzer newspaper.
marcm@ is working hard on Mono for OpenBSD and he keeps his out of tree ports there. Boehm-gc and the *BSDs is a pain but getting better.
Re:Declare your bias, why don't you?
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The drivers are open source. The board firmware is closed source. They got permission to distribute the blob for the card firmware to make wi-fi setup easier for users so they didn't have to jump through hoops to get their cards to work.
Re:Declare your bias, why don't you?
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I'm not sure he was complaining about the BSD license so much as the article not expanding on the license fights OpenBSD has had with hardware vendors. There were only a few sentences scattered throughout.
The DHCP client included has always worked. There was a problem in some Comcast markets including my own though. What you probably saw has been fixed, I believe as of 3.5 or 3.6. Essentially some markets were sending back DHCP responses out of spec causing the hosts client to disregard the information.
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My job requires me to do X, Y and X. I do X, Y, and Z and in the rest of my time I post on Slashdot. My coworker does X, Y, and Z but also does A, B, and C related to our job while I post on Slashdot. My coworker does a better job than me simply by going above and beyond what is required of us.
Seriously, I can't stand halfwit attitudes like, "Well I only do what I am explicitly required to do." Lazy.
Hmmmm, I barely knew the name of the FreeBSD specific CLR implamentation. I don't think anyone seriously uses Rotor or has developed it in the past 2.5 years.
;)
(This brought to you by one of FreeBSD's Mono port maintainers.
Hopefully yes... But some ports (including some of my own, see the link, and yes it's on my TODO list) are not prefix safe. Files get lost and occassionally ports fail to build because of other lameness. Setting PREFIX _should_ work but doesn't always.
OpenBSD does package first then install. FreeBSD does install first then package. The former method is useful when you want to build a package on a faster machine that will not be using the package. For example, building Apache on one machine for another slower machine when the fatser machine will never use Apache. The process using FreeBSD on the faster machine is build, install, package, deinstall.
OpenBSD's ports system is geared primarilly towards being a packaging system for the OpenBSD developers where FreeBSD's is more towards a general purpose installation, management, and packing framework. My personal wish is that FreeBSD would move to a portstree structure and management more like OpenBSD's.
The grandparent post is a troll. I think it would be odd for Theo to spell his name wrong. Please mod the grandparent post down, way down...
The draft is not comming back anytime soon. Most people in government know the uproar that would occur if it did come back. Just like there are limousine liberals there are policy paper conservatives. The type that consider war a great thing unless they have to get shot at.
Personally I think the draft sucks, I don't believe the governmet has the right to decide the justness of a war for me. The US Supreme Court disagrees with me though. At the same time the draft has an upside in making the military more accurately reflect the makeup of the country, something you don't get with the current self-selection. That was the stated motivation for Charlie Rangles (D) proposals to bring back the draft.
Or work for a healthcare software comapny like I do. Our customers rarely go out of bussiness and there's always some new crap that comes along in the industry to keep us busy.
A PR number please?
I looked through the closed PRs mentioning DHCP and found nothing matching what you reported.
Screwed up the link, for SDF. Here
Perhaps teaching Unix to new users? It is, after all, a "fake" environment that looks like the real thing.
Ummmm, looks like the real thing? Wouldn't a shell server be more appropriate for teaching Unix to new users? Something like SDF? A freaking Putty window looks more like "the real thing".
I don't see why anyone modded down the parent of this reply...
I use both Free and Open since those serve my my needs. Haven't found a need for Net not served by the other two so far. I would say that FreeBSD makes a better desktop for me because of the frequent updates to the ports tree. I like having Gnome 2.10 installed and having 2.12 probably ready a few weeks after its release.
On the flipside, I like having OpenBSD on my server box because the ports tree is updated less frequently. Essentially only at release time and then security fixes there after. The shame is when a port doesn't make it into a release and I have to wait another 6 months for an update. That's when things get out of date.
My personal wish is that FreeBSD would take the same approach that OpenBSD had NetBSD have with their ports trees and create a security branch. That would give me the size of the FreeBSD ports tree with the stability of the Open/Net Trees.
Firefox was updated 6 days ago to 1.0.4 for the 3.7 branch.
o zilla-firefox/Makefile?rev=1.21.2.1&content-type=t ext/x-cvsweb-markup
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/www/m
Crap, and my mod points are up. I hope someone else understands that refference.
Well, yes, but it is twisted freedom in the same sense as the freedom to own slaves: you take someone's work but don't reward him/her for it. There must be limits to freedom, otherwise freedom becomes a meaningless concept.
No, the BSD license is more akin to "I agree under my own volition to produce work with no guarenteed compensation in return by those who benefit from my work". Unlike slavery, you're not forced to work without guarenteed compensation. You choose to. Possibly it's because you believe in altruism?
Ironic, I argued almost the opposite in another thread on here. :)
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"Well, quite frankly, BSD licensed software is not truly free -- what's the point in free software if you can turn it into a non-free product?"
The BSD license is not truely free because it doesn't contain enough restrictions? I could always counter that the restrictions of the GPL make it not truely free. It's a dead horse but bares repeating, the BSD and GPL exist because of difrerent views about what constitutes freedom. That's life.
Here is my own take on it. The GPL seeks to preserve the freedom of the initial developer at the expense of a third party through the derivitives licensing restriction. The BSD license seeks to preserve the freedom of the third party at the expense of protection for the developer.
What does this all mean? Use what you like best and respect other developers' chosen licenses. If it's different from your favorite, get over it. Debating the ideology behind the two is retarded since they start off and focus and different ground.
Attacks on Windows are created all the time. If maintained properly, it won't have the gaping holes Linux tends to have...
The idea that *NIX = "Inherent Security" is completely retarded. Properly maintained systems are the only secure systems. The differences really worth comparing are in the amount of work it takes to maintain and patch the OS.
I wouldn't classify it as liberal paper in the realm of the NY Times, nor would I consider it a conservative paper in the realm of the Washington Post. I would consider it's editorial page typically left of center. I would also think it's special pieces like Ethical Investing and Empire Builders would appeal to a more liberal crowd. Then again, it has a section on the decline of Christianity in Europe which would probably appeal to a more conservative crowd.
I don't believe there is anything wrong with a newspaper having an editorial or special stories slant. It's when that bias infiltrates the hard news that it is a problem. The CSM does what most media can't seem to accomplish which is provide accurate and fairly unbiased new reporting along with an editorial slant that is not a pitchman for specific political groups.
As someone who actually reads the newspaper regularly, no I wouldn't expect such a simplistic idea from them...
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The Christian Science Monitor tends to be one of the more liberal newspapers in the US. I wouldn't classify them ideologically with papers like the Washington Times. The CSM is also not about spreading the the Christian Science church's doctrine. It was started by Mary Baker Eddy to provide fair and accurate reporting. This was a response to attacks on her from a Joseph Pulitzer newspaper.
For a more indepth explnation:
http://www.csmonitor.com/aboutus/about_the_monito
http://www.lectroid.net/ports/
marcm@ is working hard on Mono for OpenBSD and he keeps his out of tree ports there. Boehm-gc and the *BSDs is a pain but getting better.
The drivers are open source. The board firmware is closed source. They got permission to distribute the blob for the card firmware to make wi-fi setup easier for users so they didn't have to jump through hoops to get their cards to work.
I'm not sure he was complaining about the BSD license so much as the article not expanding on the license fights OpenBSD has had with hardware vendors. There were only a few sentences scattered throughout.
The DHCP client included has always worked. There was a problem in some Comcast markets including my own though. What you probably saw has been fixed, I believe as of 3.5 or 3.6. Essentially some markets were sending back DHCP responses out of spec causing the hosts client to disregard the information.
And I bet you will sadly see Dvorak proved right as people try and prove him wrong.
Wow, an intellignt post on this matter. Did you come over here from K5?