I invite anyone who knows more about Epiphany than me to correct anything that is factually incorrect.
Well, I know plenty about it, so I suppose I qualify. All points will be taken in the order they were presented.
"Bookmarks system slows people down" - how?
There is a bookmarks toolbar. View --> Bookmarks Bar
There is now a bookmarks menu
I wouldn't consider it "rife with bugs" - anymore than I would say Galeon is, anyhow.
Yeah, text beside icons is b0rked. It's a libegg issue.
It appears you have never really worked with true "end users". Epiphany includes the only preferences that I've ever seen truly average web users change (if anything!). If it means anything, Ephy's prefs are about equivilant to Safari's, but I don't see any complaints about Safari's lack of prefs...
Tabs are wrecked? They work fine for me.
In short, wait till Ephy 1.0 comes out (with GNOME 2.4), and give it some serious use. If you still don't like it, realize that A) it's not designed for geeky Slashdot readers, it's aimed at, among others, people that don't even know what a web browser is, and B) nothing about Epiphany precludes you from installing Galeon.
You're totally missing the point. I never said the ISP I once worked for, or any other ISP was "fair." My point was that many people here seem to think that ISPs will miss the users who cost them the most money, ie: no, a handful of p2p kiddies leaving Verizon is not going to make them suddenly swell up with remorse.
As for oversubscribing, stop to think about what would happen if they *didn't* oversubscribe - either their costs would skyrocket, thus forcing them to raise rates, or drop the maximum bandwidth cap to something like 256k or lower. Do these sound appealing?
Furthermore, any responsible ISP never lets their main pipes get bogged down. If you know of an exception, then leave that ISP. Again, there is the greed factor, but it's not as though it's a complete game on the ISPs' part to trick you out of money.
Nope - those games don't take a fraction of the bandwidth of p2p. Part of the p2p problem is that it's not just high bandwidth, for some, it's high bandwidth 24x7. That's why it's such an issue.
Of course there are exceptions, such is reality. But the vast, overwhelming majority of songs on p2p are illegal. I am sympathetic - p2p is cool technology. Bittorrent comes to mind... what a GREAT way to distribute Linux distros! But let us be fair, that's not what Kazaa is for. Kazaa is for getting the Matrix Reloaded, the new Korn album, and some pr0n on the side.
File steali... *ahem*, sorry, forgot my/. Euphamism-o-matic. I mean file "sharing" fanatics get no love from ISPs. The hardcore p2p users are the ones that suck up the most bandwidth of anyone - I've seen it with my own eyes, having worked for one of the largest cable ISPs in the country. That kind of bandwidth hogging is the reason for the proposed monthly bandwidth caps. Those users are a losing proposition for the ISP, and they won't be missed when they leave!
Exactly what kind of boobs are YOU people looking at, anyhow!? This thing looks like a pair of mirrored Logitech mice stuck onto a keyboard, and I'm pretty sure the *last* thing I'd mistake them for is *breasts*.
If you're looking for "enterprise" level support (God I hate that word!), Red Hat offers exactly what you're looking for, from what it looks like. Maybe you should give Red Hat a call and get one of their sales people to pimp themselves to your boss?:)
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Stop kidding yourself. Does anybody very far from the nerd community know who Linus is? Does Linus have any sort of celebrity status in the rest of the world, in the rest of America?
I didn't realize that one needed to be famous to the general public in order to be powerful. I'm sure that most Americans don't know who the hell Hu Jintao is, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he's the leader of the most populated nation on the planet. (And a nuclear power at that!) No, Linus isn't particularly well known outside of tech circles and Wall Street, in whose publications he is sometimes mentioned, but that doesn't mean he has no power or has not made an impact.
While we all hate Microsoft, Bill Gates is a much better example of a nerd becoming powerful and well known.
As I said in another post, Bill is more powerful, but he didn't become powerful at the computer - he became powerful in business meetings, and the discussion was on the ability to become influential while "just sitting at the computer."
You make me laugh. Linux turing whole economies upside-down? Get a hold of yourself man. Come back to the real world.
I'm in the real world just fine, but thanks for your concern. The world I'm in is the same one where multi-billion dollar corporations are changing the way they do business all over that little linux thing. (Sun, IBM, Microsoft come to mind?) Whole economies was probably not the correct word, though - industries would be a better term. It still illustrates the fact that Linux has been tremendously influential. Denying that is to lose one's grip on the "real world", IMHO.:-P
Very true - he certainly holds more power than Torvalds. I'm not sure he's as good an example, though, since it wasn't when he was at his computer that he was becoming powerful. Gates was a mediocre coder - it's his business dealings that made him who he is.
Depends on your definition of "loser" and "nerd" I suppose.
For that matter, what makes the nerds so apart from the rest of the world? When the non-nerd male population watches Die Hard, of course they idolize Bruce Willis, seeing themselves in his shoes, thinking to themselves, "Yeah, I could do that! I am much man!". It's the same thing. Everyone loves fantasy, especially one in which one's self is made brave, important, powerful, etc. It's not just the "nerds" or the "them" as you put it, as though to distinguish yourself from those techno-untouchables. (Well, to be wholly fair, I guess I sort of think of myself as being above the furries, but I'm not sure that's quite the same.;)
In essence, Linus is a computer nerd that spent a whole bunch of time in front of his computer, and is now considered a very powerful person indeed. The software project he started is now turning whole economies upside-down. If that's not power, what is?
Now, it's important to note that Linus is a relatively unique story, but it does go to demonstrate that with enough effort and critical thinking (good timing helps, too), yes, one person can start to change the world - that's power for you.
The water will go up into the stratosphere, where high energy radiation will break it into hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen will escape and earth as we know it will be sterilized. Sounds lovely, doesn't it?
Huh? How is the hydrogen going to just "escape"? Will hydrogen also cease to be subject to gravity in a billion years?
Oh, and lest I forget, Red Hat's new system config tools kick ass. Having the option to go in and dig through text files is an important necessity, but having the option to NOT HAVE to dig through more damn text files is nice, too!
1) I like RPM. Yes, apt-get is cool, but apt4rpm helps even the odds.
2) I like GNOME - Red Hat is a bit more "tuned" to GNOME.
3) They're well catered-to. They've very popular, so a lot of OSS and commercial projects alike target Red Hat as one of their supported distros.
4) They're sane. I think they tend to make some of the best strategic decisions for Linux, both short term and long term, and it's reflected, for the better, by their distro.
5) Use of spooky, mysterious logo reaffirms my masculinity. Can you REALLY feel like you're the Alpha Male when your distro has a logo like this?
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Or, this alternative scenario...
Linux guy: "Install Crossover, then install Photoshop."
Gfx Designer: "Wow, this is really slick!" *starts working*
SuSE is also non-Free, so what do you expect? They're allowed to get away with things Red Hat can't, being a 100% Free Software distro.
;-)
Also, the "too old/too few packages" problem is now on its way to being solved.
Finally, it doesn't take a "professional" to desire a sane distro.
Here you go, the obligatory Gentoo Zealot Translate-o-matic reference!
Enjoy!
So when is Sharp going to make models like this for the US?
Well, I know plenty about it, so I suppose I qualify. All points will be taken in the order they were presented.
In short, wait till Ephy 1.0 comes out (with GNOME 2.4), and give it some serious use. If you still don't like it, realize that A) it's not designed for geeky Slashdot readers, it's aimed at, among others, people that don't even know what a web browser is, and B) nothing about Epiphany precludes you from installing Galeon.
Have fun...
YES! This is the book that got me started programming. Highly recommended for anyone who's a total newbie to programming!
...can I get GNOME instead of KDE, too, so I can actually spend time using it and not just configuring it and figuring out the menus? :P
You're totally missing the point. I never said the ISP I once worked for, or any other ISP was "fair." My point was that many people here seem to think that ISPs will miss the users who cost them the most money, ie: no, a handful of p2p kiddies leaving Verizon is not going to make them suddenly swell up with remorse.
As for oversubscribing, stop to think about what would happen if they *didn't* oversubscribe - either their costs would skyrocket, thus forcing them to raise rates, or drop the maximum bandwidth cap to something like 256k or lower. Do these sound appealing?
Furthermore, any responsible ISP never lets their main pipes get bogged down. If you know of an exception, then leave that ISP. Again, there is the greed factor, but it's not as though it's a complete game on the ISPs' part to trick you out of money.
Nope - those games don't take a fraction of the bandwidth of p2p. Part of the p2p problem is that it's not just high bandwidth, for some, it's high bandwidth 24x7. That's why it's such an issue.
Of course there are exceptions, such is reality. But the vast, overwhelming majority of songs on p2p are illegal. I am sympathetic - p2p is cool technology. Bittorrent comes to mind... what a GREAT way to distribute Linux distros! But let us be fair, that's not what Kazaa is for. Kazaa is for getting the Matrix Reloaded, the new Korn album, and some pr0n on the side.
They won't be missed!
/. Euphamism-o-matic. I mean file "sharing" fanatics get no love from ISPs. The hardcore p2p users are the ones that suck up the most bandwidth of anyone - I've seen it with my own eyes, having worked for one of the largest cable ISPs in the country. That kind of bandwidth hogging is the reason for the proposed monthly bandwidth caps. Those users are a losing proposition for the ISP, and they won't be missed when they leave!
File steali... *ahem*, sorry, forgot my
LOL! That's a good one, "swapping legit"! Do another one, maybe about the "compassionate" conservatism of the Bush administration this time!
Exactly what kind of boobs are YOU people looking at, anyhow!? This thing looks like a pair of mirrored Logitech mice stuck onto a keyboard, and I'm pretty sure the *last* thing I'd mistake them for is *breasts*.
I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up yet...
:)
If you're looking for "enterprise" level support (God I hate that word!), Red Hat offers exactly what you're looking for, from what it looks like. Maybe you should give Red Hat a call and get one of their sales people to pimp themselves to your boss?
I have just one thing to say to this:
It's time to try The Amazing Gentoo-Linux-Zealot Translate-o-matic!
I didn't realize that one needed to be famous to the general public in order to be powerful. I'm sure that most Americans don't know who the hell Hu Jintao is, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he's the leader of the most populated nation on the planet. (And a nuclear power at that!) No, Linus isn't particularly well known outside of tech circles and Wall Street, in whose publications he is sometimes mentioned, but that doesn't mean he has no power or has not made an impact.
As I said in another post, Bill is more powerful, but he didn't become powerful at the computer - he became powerful in business meetings, and the discussion was on the ability to become influential while "just sitting at the computer."
I'm in the real world just fine, but thanks for your concern. The world I'm in is the same one where multi-billion dollar corporations are changing the way they do business all over that little linux thing. (Sun, IBM, Microsoft come to mind?) Whole economies was probably not the correct word, though - industries would be a better term. It still illustrates the fact that Linux has been tremendously influential. Denying that is to lose one's grip on the "real world", IMHO.
Very true - he certainly holds more power than Torvalds. I'm not sure he's as good an example, though, since it wasn't when he was at his computer that he was becoming powerful. Gates was a mediocre coder - it's his business dealings that made him who he is.
Depends on your definition of "loser" and "nerd" I suppose.
For that matter, what makes the nerds so apart from the rest of the world? When the non-nerd male population watches Die Hard, of course they idolize Bruce Willis, seeing themselves in his shoes, thinking to themselves, "Yeah, I could do that! I am much man!". It's the same thing. Everyone loves fantasy, especially one in which one's self is made brave, important, powerful, etc. It's not just the "nerds" or the "them" as you put it, as though to distinguish yourself from those techno-untouchables. (Well, to be wholly fair, I guess I sort of think of myself as being above the furries, but I'm not sure that's quite the same.
I have two words for your professor.
Linus. Torvalds.
In essence, Linus is a computer nerd that spent a whole bunch of time in front of his computer, and is now considered a very powerful person indeed. The software project he started is now turning whole economies upside-down. If that's not power, what is?
Now, it's important to note that Linus is a relatively unique story, but it does go to demonstrate that with enough effort and critical thinking (good timing helps, too), yes, one person can start to change the world - that's power for you.
Do you have any links to back this up? I didn't think they had taken an official stand on this...
Spaceballs? Which quote do you mean?
Huh? How is the hydrogen going to just "escape"? Will hydrogen also cease to be subject to gravity in a billion years?
It would be nice to get the gov't switched over to something like an XML format, with a custom DTD designed specifically for markup of bills and laws.
Any law geeks aware of such an effort?
Oh, and lest I forget, Red Hat's new system config tools kick ass. Having the option to go in and dig through text files is an important necessity, but having the option to NOT HAVE to dig through more damn text files is nice, too!
Well, I'm pretty partial to Red Hat.
1) I like RPM. Yes, apt-get is cool, but apt4rpm helps even the odds.
2) I like GNOME - Red Hat is a bit more "tuned" to GNOME.
3) They're well catered-to. They've very popular, so a lot of OSS and commercial projects alike target Red Hat as one of their supported distros.
4) They're sane. I think they tend to make some of the best strategic decisions for Linux, both short term and long term, and it's reflected, for the better, by their distro.
5) Use of spooky, mysterious logo reaffirms my masculinity. Can you REALLY feel like you're the Alpha Male when your distro has a logo like this?