I agree. Browser compatibility is rarely any sort of major issue. Sure, it is a PITA to deal with, but it is usually one or two tiny little formatting issues per page that take 10 minutes to test and fix. If you are not relying on the dark corners of any of the browser specs and write generally standards compliant code, this really should not be a 100,000 dollar problem for all but the largest of sites (some social networking site nobody has ever heard of does not qualify).
This is my dev environment about 70% of the day now. C# the other 30 pretty much rules that set up out the rest of the time (I am no masochist). A strict command line environment can be great, even on Windows, when your platform does not have great tools anyway (wacky low level C-variant in my case).
Jesus, I hope you are trolling. ALL fundamental discoveries? I could swallow a "most", but only you are really only asking for one single counter example to be proven wrong??
Or just enforce the existing laws on the books. If you pull a Mitt Romney and beat up the gay kid, then you get prosecuted for assault. By calling this behavior "bullying", even with these special laws, we are ignoring the fact that many of these behaviors are already serious crimes that need to be stomped out. Seriously, we let kids get away with the most insane behavior that would never be tolerated in any other environment. If you punched some random guy on the street, kicked him, and spit on him, you would be in jail. If a middle schooler does the same thing, they are asked to shake the kids hand and apologize. No wonder we have such a big bullying problem; we tolerate abhorrent behavior and are training little crazy ass monsters.
I am just a block away from the Hunley as I am typing this. Some pretty fascinating stuff has been discovered since they pulled it up a couple years ago. A month or two ago they found a coin on the sub with a big dent in it. Legend had said that the captain had kept this coin in his breast pocket after he had been shot in the heart, but was saved by the pocketed coin (that's a lucky coin!). Historians had long thought this story to be a myth until they found the damn thing on the floor of the sub.
Interesting story, but you could not pay me to get in that thing or anything like it.
The sticks and stones thing works up until you introduce the video. It is not hard to imagine how a video like this could be used for blackmail and even the idea of it being leaked could be devastating to just about anyway. Idk about you, but I would not just shrug off the idea of a video of me in that sort of compromised situation being seen by everyone on my dorm room floor (much less parents, etc.).
Honestly I can see where you are coming from, and would concede that low level stuff could be more portable. Most of us do not live in that low level of an environment, however, and often code can be next to impossible to export to another OS without rebuilding all of the dependencies you have on particular OS. The software I write is in the Geospatial Analytics field. There are many frameworks I use that allow me to write the software without having to reinvent the wheel and hire 10 more programmers. Most of these have no OSX or Linux equivalent. I do not see how I could easily write this sort of software in a way that would be portable. I write modular software so that I can switch out components with upgrades or new vendors, but in my field, there are not components to plug in on non Windows platforms. I suppose I could write each of those modules myself, but I do not have time for that; I am busy writing my own framework.
Ha, this. I remember a kid who "built" a working hovercraft in middle school. Considering the kid was not even allowed to ride it, it was pretty obvious that his dad did not just let him take apart a lawnmower, modify the engine, and weld it to the frame (all equally if not more dangerous than riding the damn thing for a 13 year old).
Yep. I work in GIS, and I would welcome less precision for more speed. In fact, almost every piece of software I write has the goal of dumbing down the data enough so that our puny human brains can comprehend it.
The "evidence" is typically found in an envelope discretely left on a senator's desk. What more does one need to make a decision? The more zeroes, the better the evidence!
...but how often is the evidence clear and agreed upon by a large majority?
Most of the time, actually. Significant disagreements based on evidence are typically exceptions to the rule. Non-disagreements are simply not particularly noteworthy. The majority of legislation is that way too.
I do not develop for WP7, because there is next to zero market, but have you seen the development environment? I know this is entirely subjective, but it is awesome. Honestly, they might still be evil, and I generally try to avoid evil, but... I have to work in a development environment all day everyday and I want to work in the easiest, most productive one available. Developers most certainly do not avoid MS at every opportunity. Sure, if I am doing a funzy project, I typically do it on nix, but that is because I am a nerd and I like the wild west style challenge. If I want to get real corporate style work done, I am going to go Windows just about every time. It is what the most people want, and as a result the tools are there to get it done with the least amount of effort. My entire industry (GIS/geospatial analytics) barely even exists outside Windows. Sure, I could build on top of QuantumGIS or something similar and get a Linux/Mac product going, but it would be so hellacious at this point that it would be a soul crushing endeavor. Maybe I am just a bottom feeder feeding off the scraps, but I could care less. Microsoft is huge and there is plenty of wake to ride. Yeah, it would be cool if all my clients DEMANDED Arch Linux distributions and would pay top dollar for them, but that is not the case, so I am going to continue going with the MS flow.
Thank you. People do not seem to realize that design takes time and money and more or less IS the entirety of software development. People who do not design their software are not software engineers, they are typists.
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I agree. Browser compatibility is rarely any sort of major issue. Sure, it is a PITA to deal with, but it is usually one or two tiny little formatting issues per page that take 10 minutes to test and fix. If you are not relying on the dark corners of any of the browser specs and write generally standards compliant code, this really should not be a 100,000 dollar problem for all but the largest of sites (some social networking site nobody has ever heard of does not qualify).
vim/irssi/lynx
This is my dev environment about 70% of the day now. C# the other 30 pretty much rules that set up out the rest of the time (I am no masochist). A strict command line environment can be great, even on Windows, when your platform does not have great tools anyway (wacky low level C-variant in my case).
It's like MAD where both sides just say "eh, fuck it".
Jesus, I hope you are trolling. ALL fundamental discoveries? I could swallow a "most", but only you are really only asking for one single counter example to be proven wrong??
...Lynx rules all the browsers anyway.
I work like crazy throughout the week, but try to do something along these lines every Saturday. It's not depressing; it's therapeutic.
As a fellow introvert who is not shy
I am in the same boat. I have no problem talking to people, I would just prefer not to.
Or just enforce the existing laws on the books. If you pull a Mitt Romney and beat up the gay kid, then you get prosecuted for assault. By calling this behavior "bullying", even with these special laws, we are ignoring the fact that many of these behaviors are already serious crimes that need to be stomped out. Seriously, we let kids get away with the most insane behavior that would never be tolerated in any other environment. If you punched some random guy on the street, kicked him, and spit on him, you would be in jail. If a middle schooler does the same thing, they are asked to shake the kids hand and apologize. No wonder we have such a big bullying problem; we tolerate abhorrent behavior and are training little crazy ass monsters.
You are correct. The average american male weighs around 190lbs. It was around 165lbs in the 1920s, but that ship has sailed.
Interesting story, but you could not pay me to get in that thing or anything like it.
I could see the government being held responsible in some way for an auto accident, if they had an unreasonably dangerous road.
Might cost me a job, perhaps a few 'friends'
To a lot of people-- perhaps MOST people:
job + friends = life
The sticks and stones thing works up until you introduce the video. It is not hard to imagine how a video like this could be used for blackmail and even the idea of it being leaked could be devastating to just about anyway. Idk about you, but I would not just shrug off the idea of a video of me in that sort of compromised situation being seen by everyone on my dorm room floor (much less parents, etc.).
Honestly I can see where you are coming from, and would concede that low level stuff could be more portable. Most of us do not live in that low level of an environment, however, and often code can be next to impossible to export to another OS without rebuilding all of the dependencies you have on particular OS. The software I write is in the Geospatial Analytics field. There are many frameworks I use that allow me to write the software without having to reinvent the wheel and hire 10 more programmers. Most of these have no OSX or Linux equivalent. I do not see how I could easily write this sort of software in a way that would be portable. I write modular software so that I can switch out components with upgrades or new vendors, but in my field, there are not components to plug in on non Windows platforms. I suppose I could write each of those modules myself, but I do not have time for that; I am busy writing my own framework.
In the USSR, the banks pay you!
Ha, this. I remember a kid who "built" a working hovercraft in middle school. Considering the kid was not even allowed to ride it, it was pretty obvious that his dad did not just let him take apart a lawnmower, modify the engine, and weld it to the frame (all equally if not more dangerous than riding the damn thing for a 13 year old).
All hail the Emissary!
Yep. I work in GIS, and I would welcome less precision for more speed. In fact, almost every piece of software I write has the goal of dumbing down the data enough so that our puny human brains can comprehend it.
I thought DKPs were bananas.
...the day after the rapture, when all of the Unitarians get sucked up into the sky
The "evidence" is typically found in an envelope discretely left on a senator's desk. What more does one need to make a decision? The more zeroes, the better the evidence!
...but how often is the evidence clear and agreed upon by a large majority?
Most of the time, actually. Significant disagreements based on evidence are typically exceptions to the rule. Non-disagreements are simply not particularly noteworthy. The majority of legislation is that way too.
...along with almost any TOS that anyone ever checks "I Agree" to.
I do not develop for WP7, because there is next to zero market, but have you seen the development environment? I know this is entirely subjective, but it is awesome. Honestly, they might still be evil, and I generally try to avoid evil, but... I have to work in a development environment all day everyday and I want to work in the easiest, most productive one available. Developers most certainly do not avoid MS at every opportunity. Sure, if I am doing a funzy project, I typically do it on nix, but that is because I am a nerd and I like the wild west style challenge. If I want to get real corporate style work done, I am going to go Windows just about every time. It is what the most people want, and as a result the tools are there to get it done with the least amount of effort. My entire industry (GIS/geospatial analytics) barely even exists outside Windows. Sure, I could build on top of QuantumGIS or something similar and get a Linux/Mac product going, but it would be so hellacious at this point that it would be a soul crushing endeavor. Maybe I am just a bottom feeder feeding off the scraps, but I could care less. Microsoft is huge and there is plenty of wake to ride. Yeah, it would be cool if all my clients DEMANDED Arch Linux distributions and would pay top dollar for them, but that is not the case, so I am going to continue going with the MS flow.
Thank you. People do not seem to realize that design takes time and money and more or less IS the entirety of software development. People who do not design their software are not software engineers, they are typists.