Since when a cheap $50 router is an adequate firewall ? Can you do application level analysis with it ? How many different OSI layers can you tap using your rules on one of those boxes ?
I'm sorry, but I don't even trust a chap $50 router enough to use it for routing, let alone firewalling.
You end up paying more for a bare-bones motherboard because of their rarity.
Actually, it is a correct, if limited, summation.
When you think on market scale production, one fact is simple: the more you produce, th lower the individual unity cost. That is why, today, a dot-matrix printer is more expensive than a laser one.
Considering the great majority of motherboards produced are those "on-board" models, and the demand for "clean" boards is small (and getting smaller each passing day), the natural tendency is that the production cost pre unit for a clean board is higher.
On the other hand, I do like clean boards better. The chances of a failure is reduced, since the number of components is reduced too. That can also lead for a higher durability.
So, as far as I'm concerned, the "on-board" mobos are cheaper when you buy then, but clean ones tend to be cheaper on the long run. At least for me, since I never throw away a working computer. I just move it to other functions (disk server, firewalls etc).
I'm sorry, but I always thought that painful is by itself rated educational: "Don't mess with the netadmin".
Serious now, I have been administering networks for about 15 years now (a lot less than many people on/., I know), but one thing is for sure. Unless your userbase respects you, there isn't anything you can do. The way to institute that degree of respect will change from network to network. Sometimes it takes a message from a company director, sometimes it take imposing fines for people breaking the rules. Sometimes, all it takes is to let the network crash and burn, so they can see that network administration is important, and it is up to THEM to have it working.
Force the people who register URL's to have proof of who is buying the domain. Force them to have a credit card to buy, and force them to give a phone number and address that must be verified prior to making the URL go live. Banks do this, they check your social security number, they check your home address. Why can't we do that with URL's?
Because not everyone lives on USA. I have several.com and.org domains registered myself. How do you expect DoDaddy or DirectNic will verify my home address ? No to mention country-TLDs. I have some.com.br domains too. I know people who hold domains in no less than 6 different countries.
Then when a central government agency see's domain after domain from the same person going down, they can track him. If the person uses others to buy the domain, once the government tracks them all down and threatens them with jail time, chances are one of them will give away the guy.
It will be pretty interesting to watch the FBI raiding a guys house in, let say, Italy, because that guy had several domains that were taken down.
Please looks outside your windows. There are other things on the internet besides the USA.
I know you are not. I'm the one saying that AOL and Hotmail should always be on it. Along with a few others, like msn.com, netscape.net, globo.com, hotmail.com.* (different countries), yahoo.com etc.
I'm sorry to say this, but AOL is already "gray" to me all the time. If coming from the AOL address space, e-mails will get +1 the my local SpamAssassin parses them. Same goes for Hotmail and a couple other places.
I usually use a more agressive strategy. I tell them I have tried with Windows 2000, Windows XP, Linux (2 flavors) and a Mac. I also tell them I tested (when web based) with at least 5 different browsers (add a text-based browser, like Lynx, for extra flavor), and the problem is always the same.
If that doesn't get me to tier 2 support, I start quoting protocol numbers and RFC numbers.
But that is rarely needed. Usually only mentioning some IP numbers is enough to get throught.
I remember I used to have the cable's provider NOC phone number, which usually doubles are "tier 3 or 4 support level". The support people finally understood it was cheaper for them to just put me directly in contact with the network guys. Also, 90% of the time I detected problems before they did. Heck, they should be paying me for that.
This kind of politics is a direct result of the ammount of money the USA is spending on the "war on terror" and all those soldiers on foregn soil. That money has to come out of somewhere, and cutting back project with only provide (IMPORTANT!) inderect benefits as good a shortsighted way to do it as any other.
It is really a said day when the USA, a country known worldwide for is excelence and effort for the best of the sciency takes a turn this way.
For crying out loud. Please lets stop calling passwords what really are nothing but SNMP Community names.
And SNMPv2, for that sake. So, there is no encryption, no security (attempt), and NO PASSWORD.
Please see RFC1901 for furute reference. Also check RFC3410 (and its errata) for reference on SNMPv3, which allows for some degree of encryption, being dated back to 2002.
Using SNMPv2 for this kind of administration, over a public network, is one of the dumbest things I ever saw.
Since I don't know which software you have on your computer, or the terms for their licenses, I really can't comment.
No one said it was right, but it how the law works. When yu paid for your software, you received a license with it. If you read that license, and don't agree, you are entitled to return it and get your money back. Since you installed and is running the software, that means you agreed (or at least accepted) the license (EULA, GPL etc).
It find it interesting that people bitch when others violate the GPL, but think it is "a human right" to violate other licenses. Guess what ? They all fly under the same rules (laws).
The way to solve it ? Voting with your wallet if the first thing. People complaing about Apples DRM, then go get Jon's software and buy from iTunes, so giving Apple incentive to continue following the same policies (after all, you ARE buying from them).
You don't agree with Apples DRM ? Instead of breaking it, just don't buy from them. And that means not buying iPods either. I know I don't.
Looks like people really doesn't understand Copyright.
You didn't pay for the song. You didn't buy the song. You payed for the right to listen to it, one the media/format provided.
Several people have quoted the "First Sale" right/law. Guess what ? When you buy a CD, you are not only paying for the songs, but also for the physical media. You buy the media, and pay for the right to listen to the music (that is why you can't give copies to others). Since there is no way to sell the media (CD) without the music, the first sale right applies, indirectly, to the songs. Erasing the midia or changing it in any other way will decaracterise(?) the product, changing it into something else.
I hate the DMCA, RIAA and DRM as much as every other slashdoter, but barking at the wrong door isn't helping.
It sounds like a really bizarre argument to me. If the general population wants to browse source code on a Saturday night (and is this true even where MIT staff live?) they don't need their governments' computers to be running it, they just need to download some source code.
Lets just remember that computers are VERY expensive in Brazil, and for the overwhelming majority of the population, without these government computers, they won't have access to computers AT ALL.
I also see a lot of people saying "they can just download the free OS". Well, guess what ? Internet is NOT that common here either, at least for the part of the population that is the target of this "cheap computer" initiative.
No one is saying this is the best idea for USA. They are saying this is the best idea for Brazil. So, please consider that Brazil IS NOT USA.
Lets please remember that learning oportunity is important by itself.
Just because the "overwhelming majority" of people AREN'T sociologist, that doesn't mean the government should not provide Karl Marx books for public labrary. (Note: Using sociology and Marx as an example due to my limited english skills, but the example should hold for any other topic).
This is just expanding the issue one step further. Also, in Brazil, the overwhelming majority of the population doesn't uses/need computers on a daily basis.
The whole idea of this project is to change all that.
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Should we start feeling sorry for him yet ? :)
Lets consider they put him (poor guy) inside a barometric chamber, and kept increasing the pressure inside inside that chamber.
:)
Would they be pressurising or depressurising him ?
Would he implode or explode ?
It is all semantics, I know, but you did reply
As they kept pressurising him, he realized he would soon explode if he didn't agree to resign.
I'm sure you mean he would implode. Unless you mean they were depressurising him. But that would smell bad.
What else would *YOU* do if they told you that unless you leave, they will fire the whole department along with you?
Call the press.
Don't know about you, but I always carry the phone number of 2 or 3 reporters on my cell phone. Just in case.
Since when a cheap $50 router is an adequate firewall ? Can you do application level analysis with it ? How many different OSI layers can you tap using your rules on one of those boxes ?
I'm sorry, but I don't even trust a chap $50 router enough to use it for routing, let alone firewalling.
You end up paying more for a bare-bones motherboard because of their rarity.
Actually, it is a correct, if limited, summation.
When you think on market scale production, one fact is simple: the more you produce, th lower the individual unity cost. That is why, today, a dot-matrix printer is more expensive than a laser one.
Considering the great majority of motherboards produced are those "on-board" models, and the demand for "clean" boards is small (and getting smaller each passing day), the natural tendency is that the production cost pre unit for a clean board is higher.
On the other hand, I do like clean boards better. The chances of a failure is reduced, since the number of components is reduced too. That can also lead for a higher durability.
So, as far as I'm concerned, the "on-board" mobos are cheaper when you buy then, but clean ones tend to be cheaper on the long run. At least for me, since I never throw away a working computer. I just move it to other functions (disk server, firewalls etc).
MirrorDot is the one I always use.
I'm sorry, but I always thought that painful is by itself rated educational: "Don't mess with the netadmin".
/., I know), but one thing is for sure. Unless your userbase respects you, there isn't anything you can do. The way to institute that degree of respect will change from network to network. Sometimes it takes a message from a company director, sometimes it take imposing fines for people breaking the rules. Sometimes, all it takes is to let the network crash and burn, so they can see that network administration is important, and it is up to THEM to have it working.
Serious now, I have been administering networks for about 15 years now (a lot less than many people on
Force the people who register URL's to have proof of who is buying the domain. Force them to have a credit card to buy, and force them to give a phone number and address that must be verified prior to making the URL go live. Banks do this, they check your social security number, they check your home address. Why can't we do that with URL's?
.com and .org domains registered myself. How do you expect DoDaddy or DirectNic will verify my home address ? No to mention country-TLDs. I have some .com.br domains too. I know people who hold domains in no less than 6 different countries.
Because not everyone lives on USA. I have several
Then when a central government agency see's domain after domain from the same person going down, they can track him. If the person uses others to buy the domain, once the government tracks them all down and threatens them with jail time, chances are one of them will give away the guy.
It will be pretty interesting to watch the FBI raiding a guys house in, let say, Italy, because that guy had several domains that were taken down.
Please looks outside your windows. There are other things on the internet besides the USA.
Yes, no one ever doubted the hability of Comcast in making things go offline.
I know you are not. I'm the one saying that AOL and Hotmail should always be on it. Along with a few others, like msn.com, netscape.net, globo.com, hotmail.com.* (different countries), yahoo.com etc.
The whole idea about RBLs and such is that they are dynamic.
A gray list list this would be static.
Are you sure ?
64.233.184.203 not listed in bl.spamcop.net
I'm sorry to say this, but AOL is already "gray" to me all the time. If coming from the AOL address space, e-mails will get +1 the my local SpamAssassin parses them. Same goes for Hotmail and a couple other places.
Careful there.
People laughed when Microsoft "thought" they could beat Netscape at the browser game.
Never underestimate the power of the all mighty buck.
When people mention a "goverment conspiracy", it is related to several agencies, or at least should be.
:)
The IRS is not conspiring to get all your money. It is just company policy.
Isn't just running Microsoft immoral, even if you paid for it ?
So, tell me, where did you meet my wife ?
I usually use a more agressive strategy.
I tell them I have tried with Windows 2000, Windows XP, Linux (2 flavors) and a Mac. I also tell them I tested (when web based) with at least 5 different browsers (add a text-based browser, like Lynx, for extra flavor), and the problem is always the same.
If that doesn't get me to tier 2 support, I start quoting protocol numbers and RFC numbers.
But that is rarely needed. Usually only mentioning some IP numbers is enough to get throught.
I remember I used to have the cable's provider NOC phone number, which usually doubles are "tier 3 or 4 support level". The support people finally understood it was cheaper for them to just put me directly in contact with the network guys. Also, 90% of the time I detected problems before they did. Heck, they should be paying me for that.
This kind of politics is a direct result of the ammount of money the USA is spending on the "war on terror" and all those soldiers on foregn soil. That money has to come out of somewhere, and cutting back project with only provide (IMPORTANT!) inderect benefits as good a shortsighted way to do it as any other.
It is really a said day when the USA, a country known worldwide for is excelence and effort for the best of the sciency takes a turn this way.
Welcome back to the dark age.
Then again, it is all just politics, ain't it ?
AIN'T IT ?
For crying out loud. Please lets stop calling passwords what really are nothing but SNMP Community names.
And SNMPv2, for that sake. So, there is no encryption, no security (attempt), and NO PASSWORD.
Please see RFC1901 for furute reference. Also check RFC3410 (and its errata) for reference on SNMPv3, which allows for some degree of encryption, being dated back to 2002.
Using SNMPv2 for this kind of administration, over a public network, is one of the dumbest things I ever saw.
Since I don't know which software you have on your computer, or the terms for their licenses, I really can't comment.
No one said it was right, but it how the law works. When yu paid for your software, you received a license with it. If you read that license, and don't agree, you are entitled to return it and get your money back. Since you installed and is running the software, that means you agreed (or at least accepted) the license (EULA, GPL etc).
It find it interesting that people bitch when others violate the GPL, but think it is "a human right" to violate other licenses. Guess what ? They all fly under the same rules (laws).
The way to solve it ? Voting with your wallet if the first thing. People complaing about Apples DRM, then go get Jon's software and buy from iTunes, so giving Apple incentive to continue following the same policies (after all, you ARE buying from them).
You don't agree with Apples DRM ? Instead of breaking it, just don't buy from them. And that means not buying iPods either. I know I don't.
Looks like people really doesn't understand Copyright.
You didn't pay for the song. You didn't buy the song. You payed for the right to listen to it, one the media/format provided.
Several people have quoted the "First Sale" right/law. Guess what ? When you buy a CD, you are not only paying for the songs, but also for the physical media. You buy the media, and pay for the right to listen to the music (that is why you can't give copies to others). Since there is no way to sell the media (CD) without the music, the first sale right applies, indirectly, to the songs. Erasing the midia or changing it in any other way will decaracterise(?) the product, changing it into something else.
I hate the DMCA, RIAA and DRM as much as every other slashdoter, but barking at the wrong door isn't helping.
It sounds like a really bizarre argument to me. If the general population wants to browse source code on a Saturday night (and is this true even where MIT staff live?) they don't need their governments' computers to be running it, they just need to download some source code.
Lets just remember that computers are VERY expensive in Brazil, and for the overwhelming majority of the population, without these government computers, they won't have access to computers AT ALL.
I also see a lot of people saying "they can just download the free OS". Well, guess what ? Internet is NOT that common here either, at least for the part of the population that is the target of this "cheap computer" initiative.
No one is saying this is the best idea for USA. They are saying this is the best idea for Brazil. So, please consider that Brazil IS NOT USA.
Lets please remember that learning oportunity is important by itself.
Just because the "overwhelming majority" of people AREN'T sociologist, that doesn't mean the government should not provide Karl Marx books for public labrary. (Note: Using sociology and Marx as an example due to my limited english skills, but the example should hold for any other topic).
This is just expanding the issue one step further. Also, in Brazil, the overwhelming majority of the population doesn't uses/need computers on a daily basis.
The whole idea of this project is to change all that.