Signal to noise ratio. Its really smart actually. Fill the airwaves and people's "give-a-fuck-o-meter" with useless discussions of utter horse shit (which partisan dumb asses and the media eat right up) and you deplete the ability for the public to discern what is actually going on and to really give a fuck.
Manufactured distraction, fervor, and outrage is the perfect environment and cover for an administration to do things that fuck the American people. And partisan idiots can't help but play right into it, screaming how this is exactly what they said would happen, agitating their imaginary foes on the "other side of the aisle," bringing out their broadest brush yet with which to paint half of America as disreputable and irremediable. Ha! Fools, every single one.
He has been in office less than a week and he already has the press and talking heads chasing sticks like the bitches they are. Many of the most partisan are ready and raring to fight their fellow American brothers and sisters to the death over complete nonsense. Issues are left by the wayside in the rush to condemn others and prove who is "right." Ideological differences become declarations of war instead of fertile ground for discussion. All they can talk about is what he says they can talk about. The only issues that are in the media and on people's minds, the only issues that matter, are within the bandwidth of what he has established with his antics.
In other words, you and the media have been pwnt, if you haven't noticed already.
This is fun to watch! Post a well publicized and provable lie by our ex-president, watch some partisan zealot try to defend it and laugh, laugh, laugh!
...but they aren't programmed by evolution to disregard 95%+ of it. Pretty much the exact opposite actually. We tune, prune, select, and evolve these algorithms to do this one thing really well. Frankly, its a wonder humans can do as well as we do. A testament to our pattern matching skills, adaptability, and lack of immutable hard wiring in the 'ol thinky thinky bits.
Something I saw that might be able to help humans get a step up on the algorithms, or actually amalgamate humans and computers, is this: Video Magnification
Maybe cancerous skin lesions absorb slightly different light wavelengths? If so, magnification of the minuscule differences could pinpoint it. Fun to ponder.
And passed the senate with 99 yes votes, 54 Republicans and 45 democrats. One republican did not vote. The House put it to a voice vote, and it passed overwhelmingly. This was obviously something that our entire government thought was a STELLAR idea. Interesting that anyone would think that blaming any one party for this law is a correct or honest approximation of what really happened.
This is just another example of how our "parties" act as a single organism when presented with the chance to circumvent or eliminate rights guaranteed to the US people. This is what they do. They love to talk about the wedge issues, and recirculate those endlessly to incite division in the voting populace. But when it comes to fucking us, the American people, they show their true colors and vote as a unit.
If any of you partisan fools are brave enough to study the voting record you might learn something interesting. Your party, whichever one you choose, routinely does things you might find objectionable. If you weren't so absorbed in spewing vitriol at the people you have been programmed to blame and hate, and if you were not so desperately looking for that super-addictive high you get when you just know for sure you are right and someone else is wrong, and if you could stop emoting long enough to engage in rational thought and observe facts for what they are, you might be able to see exactly what you are fomenting with your idiotic partisan ranting and raving. Namely, you are giving your own party the impetus it needs to make political policy in direct contravention to your best interests.
Quit being a sucker. Neither party has your interests at heart. The sooner you realize this, the sooner we can get the kind of government we need.
I decried this concentration of power in every presidency going back to Reagan. What I have learned is that nothing will dissuade the American public and their elected officials from charging headlong toward their own destruction. "Measured," "reasoned," "forethought," and "circumspect" have no application to the American political beast.
That's not all we have. You left out the heartless machinations of the house and senate designed subtly manipulate the financial framework of the country and remove as much capital from the populace as possible.
EXACTLY! The fact that there are people that label themselves as "Democrats" and/or "Republicans" is the whole problem. I have never been able to understand the motivation of people to surrender their individuality and their identity as an American citizen to a party. Especially considering these parties obviously have a long list of people and institutions they are indebted and beholden to and who must be catered to before the problems and needs of the citizen are addressed.
Even worse, these people use their self determined position as a party member to make enemies of other Americans. All they need to hear is some inclination that someone is of a different party and they suddenly become sub-human.
In my carefully considered opinion, if you declare yourself as a democrat or republican, and you aren't one of the propagandist ring leaders that is elected to office on that ticket, you are the problem with America. Your mind is compromised and your partisanship completely obscures your rational judgement. You are a pre-emotional creature without access to the necessary logic and understanding that allows you to behave like a human should.
Just because lying to the American public and destroying government records without oversight is legal doesn't mean that doing it won't come with a shitload of consequences, not the least of which is you don't get to be the president.
It doesn't have to be criminal to be dishonest, immoral, deceitful, reprehensible, and unconscionable. This is the pitfall of lawyers practicing politics. They know exactly what they can get away with under the letter of the law. If they lack moral fiber they will push that line continually.
My insinuation is that it is easy for humans to think incorrectly about ethical problems. The "greater good" is not always the "right thing" and this is hard for people to not only recognize this but also to reconcile it with their code of ethics.
You just asked "How many people were murdered for their organs?" and answered your question with "if its not a whole bunch I don't care and neither should anyone else."
Instead of blatantly declaring how uncaring and callous you are with other people's lives, why don't you just state plainly to this person you think he is a liar and that those stories are all false? If you are the totally self absorbed scumbag piece of shit you appear to be, it would be better cover. And if you're not a complete dickbag your directness won't have a chance to be taken as apologist propaganda for doctors who murder their patients for monetary gain.
Its really tough to confront how insanity and inanity look exactly alike in you humans.
There is a man on the runoff railway track and a family of 5 on the main track. A speeding train is heading toward the family of 5, which could be diverted if you pull a lever, though you will kill the man by himself on the runoff track. What do you do?
There is a man in ICU. If you "declare him dead" his liver, heart, lungs, kidney(s), and other internal organs will save the lives of at least 5 people. What do you do?
Rearrange the economy to one where ever increasing consumption of non-essentials is not the ultimate goal of every dollar earned and you have a good start.
Also, abolishing advertising. Also also, violently kill anyone that describes their tried and true product as New and Improved.
You would need to decouple the profit motive from automation for your idea to work, otherwise things won't get cheaper. You want to remove the profit motive from the means of production, sale, and distribution of goods and services? Introduce fascism. No, not the authoritarian idiocy that liberals throw around as a model of Nazi Germany. I mean the fascism of government and corporations amalgamating into a single entity. Only problem is that this is essentially what we have in the US now with an important distinction. The difference between fascism and corporatism is who is in control. So instead of a government controlling the corporations, like in fascism, we have the corporations controlling the government. This is corporatism.
This is why we need to act before it get to the point of rationing. A healthy and well armed contingent is much more formidable than a hungry mob.
You want redistribution of wealth? Lets start with the 1%. Their paid representatives and owned people say raising taxes on the 1% wouldn't make a difference, so I'm not talking about raising their taxes.
I'm suggesting we "redistribute" their entire estates.
What's more it bothers me that smart phones don't have removable batteries anymore. It's only a matter of time before they start collecting information about us even when they are supposedly "off". Snowden has already revealed that the NSA can fake you into thinking your phone is off.
I think that time has already passed. It freaks me out that we all have supercomputers symbiotically attached to our persons. Not only all of the data and information we pump though them which is subsequently analyzed and reverse-engineered, but also how that access fundamentally changes our social structures, the way we view the world, our own self importance; literally our whole lens of reality is distorted in proximity to these devices.
Unceasing surveillance, diabolical in depth, indiscriminate in breadth. Using your own words and actions against you, refining plans for complete stimulus/response control: a consumptive device allowing greater avenues to consumption and dedicated to finding ways to increase future consumption.
I have found it very helpful to envision my cell phone as the Eye of Sauron.
The answer? They did hack the DNC email system, and many others. That is what they do. In fact, you can bet your last ruble they have been balls deep in tons of our elected official's email accounts, and for longer than you think.
The main issue is they wouldn't leak the emails. Why would you kill the goose that laid the golden egg? Why would an intelligence agency, dedicated to gaining access to and collecting emails from sources just like these, compromise itself and tip off their mark? Why, oh why would someone with unfettered access to email accounts like these out themselves?
The obvious answer is, they wouldn't. There is no way that once they gained access to these email accounts they would leak the details. So, the other obvious answer is the account was so permeated with hackers that any number of penetrators could leak the documents. The Russians were probably well and truly pissed off once the leaks went public. It obviously made it difficult to access those accounts they had already penetrated because the owners were now spooked.
Any other answer is so questionable as to be considered an agenda and not a valid supposition. Prove me wrong?
You and the poster you are replying to have totally missed the boat.
When considering intelligence agencies, its not the methods used to penetrate that are predictable. What is predictable is that penetration will happen and that it will be maintained covertly for as long as possible, and that nothing that will reveal the intrusion will be perpetrated on purpose but the intelligence gathering agency.
So the question of whether or not these American resources were hacked is immaterial. They were, and long ago. Consider them to be pwnt, and that they have been for years. Quietly and surely, intelligence agencies from all over the world have been sticking their sticky fingers into our government official's emails. Like, DUH! What do you think they have these agencies for? And if some stupid spearphishing attack worked, how much easier was it for the Russian intelligence agencies to get in with their studied and practiced wiles?
What they do not do, because it would be stupid beyond measure and completely counterproductive to the aims and goals of intelligence gathering, is broadcast all over the place the information they have compromised. This would let the hackee know they have been owned. Which would be just about the stupidest thing an intelligence gathering agency could do, short of taking a rusty antique hand drill and making holes in their own genitalia
The question is not "did Russia hack us?" The question is "Since rational and intelligent people know Russia has already hacked these people (and many more) years and years ago, and has had constant access the whole time, and since they wouldn't want to compromise their access to this information, who also gained access and subsequently revealed that access by leaking the documents?"
Secrecy. That is what I see. No proof. No inclusion of the US people. Just the same damn political positions that brought us innumerable lies and deceptions designed to manipulate and control the US electorate.
Put up or shut up. They need to come clean with the exact evidence they have. It's not their election, its ours. If our, the people mind you, if our election was compromised I want to know exactly how. What I don't want or need is my elected government officials telling me they know all the answers, I don't need to know them, and they will take care of everything. That was the same kind of thinking that led us to the Iraq war, the Vietnam war, and numerous other idiotic expenditures of American lives and uncounted billions of dollars.
That you point towards "politicians on both sides of the aisle" as "proof" is mystifying to me. Lets look at what "passes through both sides of the aisle", shall we? The aforementioned Iraq war. The DMCA. The Patriot Act. Is that sufficient, or should we go on?
Here's a hint. If both parties are in favor of it, they are probably putting you together. Show us the evidence and let the American people make the call. I'm quite tired of our elected officials telling us they know best while keeping us in the dark.
So you didn't read the link, or you didn't understand. Got it.
Observable matter in galaxies corresponds to spin rate when using near infrared to determine the observable matter in a galaxy. Not in just one galaxy, but in all 153 that were observed in this study.
Your earthworm analogy, a masterpiece of logic and pathos that will stand the test of ages, should be re-purposed to buttress a legitimate argument.
Damn right I want to know! I feel that there could be something groundbreaking in this line of inquiry, just waiting for us to figure it out. I get the feeling you do too.
This is not as cut and dried as you might think. The link below describes how there is a 1 to 1 relationship between observed matter in a galaxy and rotation speed. No mystical and mysterious dark matter is needed to determine the rotation speed.
What we have here is a classic example of the typical closed minded religion-susceptible person, who for some reason has no religion. They posses all of the flaws that come along with a narrow minded approach to reality, combined with immutable preconceived notions and a pathological inability to think logically.
Like a self proclaimed Christian that systematically kills people in direct contravention of the book they proclaim to hold in eternal esteem, this self proclaimed lover of science purports to know better than the scientific method. They are completely certain of unproven facts, so much so that they declare experimentation and exploration of unknowns completely unnecessary. They resort to ridicule of those who would toe the line and see the process through as intended. They place their ego in front of all other concerns.
So, as you can see, in the disparate realms of both human spirituality and cosmic science, neither are a match for the inestimable depths of human ignorance.
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Signal to noise ratio. Its really smart actually. Fill the airwaves and people's "give-a-fuck-o-meter" with useless discussions of utter horse shit (which partisan dumb asses and the media eat right up) and you deplete the ability for the public to discern what is actually going on and to really give a fuck.
Manufactured distraction, fervor, and outrage is the perfect environment and cover for an administration to do things that fuck the American people. And partisan idiots can't help but play right into it, screaming how this is exactly what they said would happen, agitating their imaginary foes on the "other side of the aisle," bringing out their broadest brush yet with which to paint half of America as disreputable and irremediable. Ha! Fools, every single one.
He has been in office less than a week and he already has the press and talking heads chasing sticks like the bitches they are. Many of the most partisan are ready and raring to fight their fellow American brothers and sisters to the death over complete nonsense. Issues are left by the wayside in the rush to condemn others and prove who is "right." Ideological differences become declarations of war instead of fertile ground for discussion. All they can talk about is what he says they can talk about. The only issues that are in the media and on people's minds, the only issues that matter, are within the bandwidth of what he has established with his antics.
In other words, you and the media have been pwnt, if you haven't noticed already.
Its going to be a long four years.
Obama: "Most transparent administration ever"
This is fun to watch! Post a well publicized and provable lie by our ex-president, watch some partisan zealot try to defend it and laugh, laugh, laugh!
We could go on like this for WEEKS!
...but they aren't programmed by evolution to disregard 95%+ of it. Pretty much the exact opposite actually. We tune, prune, select, and evolve these algorithms to do this one thing really well. Frankly, its a wonder humans can do as well as we do. A testament to our pattern matching skills, adaptability, and lack of immutable hard wiring in the 'ol thinky thinky bits.
Something I saw that might be able to help humans get a step up on the algorithms, or actually amalgamate humans and computers, is this:
Video Magnification
Maybe cancerous skin lesions absorb slightly different light wavelengths? If so, magnification of the minuscule differences could pinpoint it. Fun to ponder.
And passed the senate with 99 yes votes, 54 Republicans and 45 democrats. One republican did not vote. The House put it to a voice vote, and it passed overwhelmingly. This was obviously something that our entire government thought was a STELLAR idea. Interesting that anyone would think that blaming any one party for this law is a correct or honest approximation of what really happened.
This is just another example of how our "parties" act as a single organism when presented with the chance to circumvent or eliminate rights guaranteed to the US people. This is what they do. They love to talk about the wedge issues, and recirculate those endlessly to incite division in the voting populace. But when it comes to fucking us, the American people, they show their true colors and vote as a unit.
If any of you partisan fools are brave enough to study the voting record you might learn something interesting. Your party, whichever one you choose, routinely does things you might find objectionable. If you weren't so absorbed in spewing vitriol at the people you have been programmed to blame and hate, and if you were not so desperately looking for that super-addictive high you get when you just know for sure you are right and someone else is wrong, and if you could stop emoting long enough to engage in rational thought and observe facts for what they are, you might be able to see exactly what you are fomenting with your idiotic partisan ranting and raving. Namely, you are giving your own party the impetus it needs to make political policy in direct contravention to your best interests.
Quit being a sucker. Neither party has your interests at heart. The sooner you realize this, the sooner we can get the kind of government we need.
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I decried this concentration of power in every presidency going back to Reagan. What I have learned is that nothing will dissuade the American public and their elected officials from charging headlong toward their own destruction. "Measured," "reasoned," "forethought," and "circumspect" have no application to the American political beast.
That's not all we have. You left out the heartless machinations of the house and senate designed subtly manipulate the financial framework of the country and remove as much capital from the populace as possible.
EXACTLY! The fact that there are people that label themselves as "Democrats" and/or "Republicans" is the whole problem. I have never been able to understand the motivation of people to surrender their individuality and their identity as an American citizen to a party. Especially considering these parties obviously have a long list of people and institutions they are indebted and beholden to and who must be catered to before the problems and needs of the citizen are addressed.
Even worse, these people use their self determined position as a party member to make enemies of other Americans. All they need to hear is some inclination that someone is of a different party and they suddenly become sub-human.
In my carefully considered opinion, if you declare yourself as a democrat or republican, and you aren't one of the propagandist ring leaders that is elected to office on that ticket, you are the problem with America. Your mind is compromised and your partisanship completely obscures your rational judgement. You are a pre-emotional creature without access to the necessary logic and understanding that allows you to behave like a human should.
Just because lying to the American public and destroying government records without oversight is legal doesn't mean that doing it won't come with a shitload of consequences, not the least of which is you don't get to be the president.
It doesn't have to be criminal to be dishonest, immoral, deceitful, reprehensible, and unconscionable. This is the pitfall of lawyers practicing politics. They know exactly what they can get away with under the letter of the law. If they lack moral fiber they will push that line continually.
My insinuation is that it is easy for humans to think incorrectly about ethical problems. The "greater good" is not always the "right thing" and this is hard for people to not only recognize this but also to reconcile it with their code of ethics.
You disgusting ignorant pig.
You just asked "How many people were murdered for their organs?" and answered your question with "if its not a whole bunch I don't care and neither should anyone else."
Instead of blatantly declaring how uncaring and callous you are with other people's lives, why don't you just state plainly to this person you think he is a liar and that those stories are all false? If you are the totally self absorbed scumbag piece of shit you appear to be, it would be better cover. And if you're not a complete dickbag your directness won't have a chance to be taken as apologist propaganda for doctors who murder their patients for monetary gain.
Its really tough to confront how insanity and inanity look exactly alike in you humans.
There is a man on the runoff railway track and a family of 5 on the main track. A speeding train is heading toward the family of 5, which could be diverted if you pull a lever, though you will kill the man by himself on the runoff track.
What do you do?
There is a man in ICU. If you "declare him dead" his liver, heart, lungs, kidney(s), and other internal organs will save the lives of at least 5 people.
What do you do?
Rearrange the economy to one where ever increasing consumption of non-essentials is not the ultimate goal of every dollar earned and you have a good start.
Also, abolishing advertising. Also also, violently kill anyone that describes their tried and true product as New and Improved.
You would need to decouple the profit motive from automation for your idea to work, otherwise things won't get cheaper. You want to remove the profit motive from the means of production, sale, and distribution of goods and services? Introduce fascism. No, not the authoritarian idiocy that liberals throw around as a model of Nazi Germany. I mean the fascism of government and corporations amalgamating into a single entity. Only problem is that this is essentially what we have in the US now with an important distinction. The difference between fascism and corporatism is who is in control. So instead of a government controlling the corporations, like in fascism, we have the corporations controlling the government. This is corporatism.
This is why we need to act before it get to the point of rationing. A healthy and well armed contingent is much more formidable than a hungry mob.
You want redistribution of wealth? Lets start with the 1%. Their paid representatives and owned people say raising taxes on the 1% wouldn't make a difference, so I'm not talking about raising their taxes.
I'm suggesting we "redistribute" their entire estates.
What's more it bothers me that smart phones don't have removable batteries anymore. It's only a matter of time before they start collecting information about us even when they are supposedly "off". Snowden has already revealed that the NSA can fake you into thinking your phone is off.
I think that time has already passed. It freaks me out that we all have supercomputers symbiotically attached to our persons. Not only all of the data and information we pump though them which is subsequently analyzed and reverse-engineered, but also how that access fundamentally changes our social structures, the way we view the world, our own self importance; literally our whole lens of reality is distorted in proximity to these devices.
Unceasing surveillance, diabolical in depth, indiscriminate in breadth. Using your own words and actions against you, refining plans for complete stimulus/response control: a consumptive device allowing greater avenues to consumption and dedicated to finding ways to increase future consumption.
I have found it very helpful to envision my cell phone as the Eye of Sauron.
The answer? They did hack the DNC email system, and many others. That is what they do. In fact, you can bet your last ruble they have been balls deep in tons of our elected official's email accounts, and for longer than you think.
The main issue is they wouldn't leak the emails. Why would you kill the goose that laid the golden egg? Why would an intelligence agency, dedicated to gaining access to and collecting emails from sources just like these, compromise itself and tip off their mark? Why, oh why would someone with unfettered access to email accounts like these out themselves?
The obvious answer is, they wouldn't. There is no way that once they gained access to these email accounts they would leak the details. So, the other obvious answer is the account was so permeated with hackers that any number of penetrators could leak the documents. The Russians were probably well and truly pissed off once the leaks went public. It obviously made it difficult to access those accounts they had already penetrated because the owners were now spooked.
Any other answer is so questionable as to be considered an agenda and not a valid supposition. Prove me wrong?
You and the poster you are replying to have totally missed the boat.
When considering intelligence agencies, its not the methods used to penetrate that are predictable. What is predictable is that penetration will happen and that it will be maintained covertly for as long as possible, and that nothing that will reveal the intrusion will be perpetrated on purpose but the intelligence gathering agency.
So the question of whether or not these American resources were hacked is immaterial. They were, and long ago. Consider them to be pwnt, and that they have been for years. Quietly and surely, intelligence agencies from all over the world have been sticking their sticky fingers into our government official's emails. Like, DUH! What do you think they have these agencies for? And if some stupid spearphishing attack worked, how much easier was it for the Russian intelligence agencies to get in with their studied and practiced wiles?
What they do not do, because it would be stupid beyond measure and completely counterproductive to the aims and goals of intelligence gathering, is broadcast all over the place the information they have compromised. This would let the hackee know they have been owned. Which would be just about the stupidest thing an intelligence gathering agency could do, short of taking a rusty antique hand drill and making holes in their own genitalia
The question is not "did Russia hack us?" The question is "Since rational and intelligent people know Russia has already hacked these people (and many more) years and years ago, and has had constant access the whole time, and since they wouldn't want to compromise their access to this information, who also gained access and subsequently revealed that access by leaking the documents?"
Amend that to: Corporations amalgamated with Government. The perfect kind of fascism. Perfectly deniable yet comprehensively controlling.
Secrecy. That is what I see. No proof. No inclusion of the US people. Just the same damn political positions that brought us innumerable lies and deceptions designed to manipulate and control the US electorate.
Put up or shut up. They need to come clean with the exact evidence they have. It's not their election, its ours. If our, the people mind you, if our election was compromised I want to know exactly how. What I don't want or need is my elected government officials telling me they know all the answers, I don't need to know them, and they will take care of everything. That was the same kind of thinking that led us to the Iraq war, the Vietnam war, and numerous other idiotic expenditures of American lives and uncounted billions of dollars.
That you point towards "politicians on both sides of the aisle" as "proof" is mystifying to me. Lets look at what "passes through both sides of the aisle", shall we? The aforementioned Iraq war. The DMCA. The Patriot Act. Is that sufficient, or should we go on?
Here's a hint. If both parties are in favor of it, they are probably putting you together. Show us the evidence and let the American people make the call. I'm quite tired of our elected officials telling us they know best while keeping us in the dark.
So you didn't read the link, or you didn't understand. Got it.
Observable matter in galaxies corresponds to spin rate when using near infrared to determine the observable matter in a galaxy. Not in just one galaxy, but in all 153 that were observed in this study.
Your earthworm analogy, a masterpiece of logic and pathos that will stand the test of ages, should be re-purposed to buttress a legitimate argument.
Either you are responding to the wrong person, or your reading comprehension is out of phase by 180 degrees. Adjust accordingly.
Damn right I want to know! I feel that there could be something groundbreaking in this line of inquiry, just waiting for us to figure it out. I get the feeling you do too.
Here is a link to something that should be considered. A bit disappointing in my opinion in one way, as it rules out many of the more exciting answers to the question of dark matter, but exciting in its own way. You may find this interesting: 153 galaxies with rotation speeds that can be inferred directly from their observable matter
This is not as cut and dried as you might think. The link below describes how there is a 1 to 1 relationship between observed matter in a galaxy and rotation speed. No mystical and mysterious dark matter is needed to determine the rotation speed.
Check out the link below:
Case Western Reserve University
What we have here is a classic example of the typical closed minded religion-susceptible person, who for some reason has no religion. They posses all of the flaws that come along with a narrow minded approach to reality, combined with immutable preconceived notions and a pathological inability to think logically.
Like a self proclaimed Christian that systematically kills people in direct contravention of the book they proclaim to hold in eternal esteem, this self proclaimed lover of science purports to know better than the scientific method. They are completely certain of unproven facts, so much so that they declare experimentation and exploration of unknowns completely unnecessary. They resort to ridicule of those who would toe the line and see the process through as intended. They place their ego in front of all other concerns.
So, as you can see, in the disparate realms of both human spirituality and cosmic science, neither are a match for the inestimable depths of human ignorance.