> One of the burdens of having free speech in a free and supposedly democratic society is that we
> sometimes have to endure the existence of unpleasant, shocking, or poor-quality forms of expression
I don't really believe that there is a democratic society with free speech. Despite many countries claiming to have free speech, there are numerous laws and indoctrinations that curb the freedom to an acceptable level. For things that are a bit borderline you often need licences, while those that are deemed too bad/unwanted are made illegal to the point that you get detained or even executed (now isn't execution an irony in a democracy of freespeech? [-1 offtopic!]). Further more, as I believe another comment points out, society also imposes laws (called morals) that curb freedom.
I don't really think that democracys do endure poor-quality forms of expression - they just deem them illegal or make them more difficult, and that is what should happen here. I don't think we should expect others to endure this burden... we can just make this expression illegal.
I think a big problem is that lots of sites distribute material for free to encourage people to sign up and pay money - for minors this small amount of free content is enough.
Obviously if all images require age verification schemes then it will be like a ban on advertising for these sites; the sites may well ignore it.
Better is to demand proper labeling of information with meta tags and the likes that appropriate filters and checking software can use to remove/block content.
As for 'virtual' porn. It's got to be bad. Where do 'celebrity fakes' stand in the law? Surely other virtual porn has to follow in a similar way.
The biggest problem that I have with the.com revolution is the confusion it has created for me when visting online businesses.
Since.com became so trendy, lots of UK businesses registered these domains or moved sites away from the.co.uk TLD. This causes me difficulty, because when at at.co.uk site I can be reasonably sure that the site will post and pack deliveries to/in the UK. When looking at.com's, not all of the offer overseas shipping.
Therefore, buy searching.co.uk for shops first, I can usually find a price in pounds sterling together with reasonable postage options. Since everything went.com, it is much harded to find such a distinction.
Surely more TLD's are only going to move further away from the geographical reality of the world and further confuse a lot of information.
In fact, if I could start again, I'd trash.com and demand people use.co.us instead.
> We allow (people) to make copies for their own personal use: for their computer, for their
> compilation disc and for their MP3 player, so they can have portable use of their music
I don't get it. On the first page he clearly says that the directory structure is invisble and cannot be read in a PC. But then he goes and says this?
Does this mean that SunnComm have some software that allows a PC to read the CD's and make copies etc, but for only a limited number of times? If so, does this software come at a cost or per copy licence scheme?
> British universities are effectively free -
> government funded - with comparitively tiny
> student fees, if any at all.
Yes, tuition fees were only bought in for students applying for entry in 1998 and are currently about £1000 per year, which I guess is very small compared to the US situation.
However, it should be noted that some Universities have also been proposing 'Top up fees' i.e. extra payments that the University thinks it needs to maintain high standards of teaching/equipment for courses.
Obviously students have opposed top-up fees, although I'm guessing that the issue will re-surface soon.
Perhaps this advertising (wrong as it feels) will be a way to avoid taxing the students?
Like flashing a DVD to be reigonless, maybe people will make firmware upgrades that allow these 'protected' CDs to be played in PCs.
Sure, it will depend on whether your CD Rom drive can be flashed (and it probably can't if it is a plain reader, not writer or DVD), but I guess those that are informed (i.e. the rippers) will look for CD devices that have the required features. Those that don't know will just remain inconvenienced and in the dark.
As for piracy. It won't stop it, nothing can while CD prices are so high. Just get a PC and HIFI with SPDIF I/O and you presumable can make mp3's to put on Napster (or what ever is taking it's place).
I should have got that having been there reasonably recently...
> With Google you get any kind of information
> you want. But, you actually have to know about
> a place to make fun of it.
Nope, you have to invest the time in research... then you get the right answers.
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Okay, so top tells me this:
6680 root 16 0 86628 75M 4060 R 4.9 123.7 4:50 X
RSS is 75Meg!!!! Now I wish my vid card had half that much video RAM, but it only has 16Meg.
So where is that other 59Meg being mapped from then?
(Clue: disk AKA swap!).
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KDE2 and you are right, it does drain the system. But when I look at top or whatever this is what I see.
6680 root 16 0 86932 75M 4060 S 3.7 124.1 4:40 X
That is 124.1% of my memory it is using. Guess that must be used/physical then.
Sure, using Windowmaker or other older window managers does save memory and will make it all go faster (I remember from an early Suse install where X flied), but Windows seems to give me a very decent GUI (better or on par with the latest KDE/Gnome?) without consuming all this...
Basically, I am saying that the Linux community need to do better to get onto the desktop.
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Why should I? As I said, Windows has no problem win 64 Meg.
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Having a VM system that is a bit slow/agressive/plain bad wouldn't be a problem if X didn't need to use so much of it.
When Win98 is booted up (ouch) it rarely swaps until I start office and some other big apps.
When X starts the whole thing slows badly and goes into a swap nightmare.
Sure, I only have 64 Meg of RAM and could upgrade... or I could use Win98 more often since it seems to do much better here.
Or I can just use a few more VTs and no X!
I'm sure X could be a lot better... which would make Linux much better!
> but I wondered why there never was a browser-
> plugin for languages like Python or Perl
I'm not a great fan of scripting languages, and when people suggest them I often scratch my head before being told that they are 'the best language for the job'. And scripting languages do have many strengths I'll admit.
However, in this case I think the language for the job must be Java since it has all the security features built in that are needed for somthing like this. It also has been around for a short time and so I guess is pretty stable/secure and well understood now.
To make scripting languages secure might mean a fundamental change to them and the way they work (Or are SecurityExceptions supported by them all as standard?).
In fact, the easiest way I could see to make a safe script interpreter would be to write it in Java! Clearly this would be slow and cumbersome, and a waste of time....
On the otherhand, if you foget security I guess that there are a lot of people out there that could quickly knockup some nifty scripts... lets just hope they aren't kiddies!
Well, this is very off topic, and really misses the point since it isn't knowledge of local details that America lacks.
On a recent trip there I was quite shocked/amused to see almost no reporting of foreign news. Not in papers or on the TV. That suprised me although it was a stereotype/rumour/comment I had heard before (Notes from a Big Country: Bill Bryson). It turned out to be true for my experience. Hurrah for the Internet...
Anyway, onto the futile game.
1.) Where do the New York Giants play?'
Giants Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 07073
(Capacity 80,242)
2.) Who was Captain America's sidekick?
Hmm. Looks like there were a couple of 'Captain Americas' since they kept dieing etc... I'm guessing that Captain American II was the one with the sidekick called Bucky II.
3.) Who is the governor of Washington D.C.?
That nice chap: Gary Locke
Is there space for an ASCII art picture of him in here? Guess it would be off topic:(
Surely it is too late for this kind of legislation?
Firstly, we all have PGP (well, most of us) including the terrorists. Sure you can shut down the key servers, but that can't really stop PGP, it just makes it harder to distibute the public keys. I can just use my trusted mate as a key server and ask that he either run a server, or (say that is illegal) just get him to email me keys, using the public key that I sent to him via Fedex/UPS/Royal Mail on a floppy.
This isn't going to stop determined terriorists - just the average Joes that don't know/use/understand encryption already...
Oh, and second point, the WTC is gone and doing this won't change that:(
Strange... It was my understanding that singles were only sold as promotion to albums, and as such didn't make profits (In fact, it has been reported [many times] that the labels buy up their own singles to boost sales and help ensure a high chart position on entry).
If singles are only sold for promotion, not profits, then why do they bother? Surely it is just good for them to get the exposure and pretty much release it for free (Or maybe the cost of distribution;)
Doing this to an album that costs £13.99 (About $20) would make a lot more sense to me.
Coyote Linux is based on the LRP and is also a floppy disk system (it can can use over formatted floppies to squeeze slightly more than 1.44 if desired).
The site is quite good with some lively phorums and discussion. Also has a floppy disk creator for windows.
I thought it was just the cattle that were effected by foot & mouth, and anyhow, I very much doubt that many Europeans are affected by these. And don't they screen blood for this type of stuff?
I wouldn't mind _any_ blood if it would fix me up in a bad situation.
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> One of the burdens of having free speech in a free and supposedly democratic society is that we
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> sometimes have to endure the existence of unpleasant, shocking, or poor-quality forms of expression
I don't really believe that there is a democratic society with free speech. Despite many countries claiming to have free speech, there are numerous laws and indoctrinations that curb the freedom to an acceptable level. For things that are a bit borderline you often need licences, while those that are deemed too bad/unwanted are made illegal to the point that you get detained or even executed (now isn't execution an irony in a democracy of freespeech? [-1 offtopic!]). Further more, as I believe another comment points out, society also imposes laws (called morals) that curb freedom.
I don't really think that democracys do endure poor-quality forms of expression - they just deem them illegal or make them more difficult, and that is what should happen here. I don't think we should expect others to endure this burden... we can just make this expression illegal.
All in my opinion of course
I think a big problem is that lots of sites distribute material for free to encourage people to sign up and pay money - for minors this small amount of free content is enough.
Obviously if all images require age verification schemes then it will be like a ban on advertising for these sites; the sites may well ignore it.
Better is to demand proper labeling of information with meta tags and the likes that appropriate filters and checking software can use to remove/block content.
As for 'virtual' porn. It's got to be bad. Where do 'celebrity fakes' stand in the law? Surely other virtual porn has to follow in a similar way.
> "Have you ever wondered what a data packet might actually look like as it zips along the phone line? What physical form might it take?"
It looks like a fragment of The Matrix code of course!
The biggest problem that I have with the .com revolution is the confusion it has created for me when visting online businesses.
.com became so trendy, lots of UK businesses registered these domains or moved sites away from the .co.uk TLD. This causes me difficulty, because when at at .co.uk site I can be reasonably sure that the site will post and pack deliveries to/in the UK. When looking at .com's, not all of the offer overseas shipping.
.co.uk for shops first, I can usually find a price in pounds sterling together with reasonable postage options. Since everything went .com, it is much harded to find such a distinction.
.com and demand people use .co.us instead.
Since
Therefore, buy searching
Surely more TLD's are only going to move further away from the geographical reality of the world and further confuse a lot of information.
In fact, if I could start again, I'd trash
> ...forced launched cancellation earlier this week is being monitored.
Does this make sense? I know this is offtopic, but it does kinda disappoint me when I see mistakes like this on the front page.
Slashdot has a great readership and needs to be a great example...
> lighter then air and so doesn't "pool" and become concentrated
No, it immediately mixes with air and becomes very highly explosive!
The existing poll has been hanging around for what feels like ages. Maybe we should rank the top options and put them into a poll?
This would probably answer the question fastest, although you might end up using CowboyNeal.
> We allow (people) to make copies for their own personal use: for their computer, for their
> compilation disc and for their MP3 player, so they can have portable use of their music
I don't get it. On the first page he clearly says that the directory structure is invisble and cannot be read in a PC. But then he goes and says this?
Does this mean that SunnComm have some software that allows a PC to read the CD's and make copies etc, but for only a limited number of times? If so, does this software come at a cost or per copy licence scheme?
> British universities are effectively free -
> government funded - with comparitively tiny
> student fees, if any at all.
Yes, tuition fees were only bought in for students applying for entry in 1998 and are currently about £1000 per year, which I guess is very small compared to the US situation.
However, it should be noted that some Universities have also been proposing 'Top up fees' i.e. extra payments that the University thinks it needs to maintain high standards of teaching/equipment for courses.
Obviously students have opposed top-up fees, although I'm guessing that the issue will re-surface soon.
Perhaps this advertising (wrong as it feels) will be a way to avoid taxing the students?
Like flashing a DVD to be reigonless, maybe people will make firmware upgrades that allow these 'protected' CDs to be played in PCs.
Sure, it will depend on whether your CD Rom drive can be flashed (and it probably can't if it is a plain reader, not writer or DVD), but I guess those that are informed (i.e. the rippers) will look for CD devices that have the required features. Those that don't know will just remain inconvenienced and in the dark.
As for piracy. It won't stop it, nothing can while CD prices are so high. Just get a PC and HIFI with SPDIF I/O and you presumable can make mp3's to put on Napster (or what ever is taking it's place).
Presumably the non-PC readable CD's will be those that *aren't* in the CDDB databases?
Easier than making a list!
Somethings seem to have evolved along with man and civilisation.
Hard currency and paper are both in this category, and as such are darn hard to improve upon.
Digital solutions have many practicalities that cannot really be overcome, give me analogue paper, money any day.
Doah!!!!
I should have got that having been there reasonably recently...
> With Google you get any kind of information
> you want. But, you actually have to know about
> a place to make fun of it.
Nope, you have to invest the time in research... then you get the right answers.
Okay, so top tells me this:
6680 root 16 0 86628 75M 4060 R 4.9 123.7 4:50 X
RSS is 75Meg!!!! Now I wish my vid card had half that much video RAM, but it only has 16Meg.
So where is that other 59Meg being mapped from then?
(Clue: disk AKA swap!).
KDE2 and you are right, it does drain the system. But when I look at top or whatever this is what I see.
6680 root 16 0 86932 75M 4060 S 3.7 124.1 4:40 X
That is 124.1% of my memory it is using. Guess that must be used/physical then.
Sure, using Windowmaker or other older window managers does save memory and will make it all go faster (I remember from an early Suse install where X flied), but Windows seems to give me a very decent GUI (better or on par with the latest KDE/Gnome?) without consuming all this...
Basically, I am saying that the Linux community need to do better to get onto the desktop.
Why should I? As I said, Windows has no problem win 64 Meg.
Having a VM system that is a bit slow/agressive/plain bad wouldn't be a problem if X didn't need to use so much of it.
When Win98 is booted up (ouch) it rarely swaps until I start office and some other big apps.
When X starts the whole thing slows badly and goes into a swap nightmare.
Sure, I only have 64 Meg of RAM and could upgrade... or I could use Win98 more often since it seems to do much better here.
Or I can just use a few more VTs and no X!
I'm sure X could be a lot better... which would make Linux much better!
> but I wondered why there never was a browser-
> plugin for languages like Python or Perl
I'm not a great fan of scripting languages, and when people suggest them I often scratch my head before being told that they are 'the best language for the job'. And scripting languages do have many strengths I'll admit.
However, in this case I think the language for the job must be Java since it has all the security features built in that are needed for somthing like this. It also has been around for a short time and so I guess is pretty stable/secure and well understood now.
To make scripting languages secure might mean a fundamental change to them and the way they work (Or are SecurityExceptions supported by them all as standard?).
In fact, the easiest way I could see to make a safe script interpreter would be to write it in Java! Clearly this would be slow and cumbersome, and a waste of time....
On the otherhand, if you foget security I guess that there are a lot of people out there that could quickly knockup some nifty scripts... lets just hope they aren't kiddies!
--
Mike
Well, this is very off topic, and really misses the point since it isn't knowledge of local details that America lacks.
:(
On a recent trip there I was quite shocked/amused to see almost no reporting of foreign news. Not in papers or on the TV. That suprised me although it was a stereotype/rumour/comment I had heard before (Notes from a Big Country: Bill Bryson). It turned out to be true for my experience. Hurrah for the Internet...
Anyway, onto the futile game.
1.) Where do the New York Giants play?'
Giants Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 07073
(Capacity 80,242)
2.) Who was Captain America's sidekick?
Hmm. Looks like there were a couple of 'Captain Americas' since they kept dieing etc... I'm guessing that Captain American II was the one with the sidekick called Bucky II.
3.) Who is the governor of Washington D.C.?
That nice chap: Gary Locke
Is there space for an ASCII art picture of him in here? Guess it would be off topic
How did Googl^H^H^H^H^H I do?
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Mike
Surely it is too late for this kind of legislation?
:(
Firstly, we all have PGP (well, most of us) including the terrorists. Sure you can shut down the key servers, but that can't really stop PGP, it just makes it harder to distibute the public keys. I can just use my trusted mate as a key server and ask that he either run a server, or (say that is illegal) just get him to email me keys, using the public key that I sent to him via Fedex/UPS/Royal Mail on a floppy.
This isn't going to stop determined terriorists - just the average Joes that don't know/use/understand encryption already...
Oh, and second point, the WTC is gone and doing this won't change that
--
Mike
Strange... It was my understanding that singles were only sold as promotion to albums, and as such didn't make profits (In fact, it has been reported [many times] that the labels buy up their own singles to boost sales and help ensure a high chart position on entry).
;)
If singles are only sold for promotion, not profits, then why do they bother? Surely it is just good for them to get the exposure and pretty much release it for free (Or maybe the cost of distribution
Doing this to an album that costs £13.99 (About $20) would make a lot more sense to me.
--
Mike
> Too bad we aren't learning from the British and Soviet mistakes.
Isn't America in this problem partly because of its failure to notice parts of the world outside of its borders?
Ironic.....
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Are you modding this down because you are American?
Coyote Linux is based on the LRP and is also a floppy disk system (it can can use over formatted floppies to squeeze slightly more than 1.44 if desired).
The site is quite good with some lively phorums and discussion. Also has a floppy disk creator for windows.
> Caring about something = having something worth
> saying.
I see it the otherway around - if people don't care they don't say anything, hence few comments.
>The level of discussion here would be much >improved if fewer people believed that.
Naaa. Free speech is better. Let moderators sift discussion and allow users to browse at whatever level they like.
Sorry I don't agree!
I thought it was just the cattle that were effected by foot & mouth, and anyhow, I very much doubt that many Europeans are affected by these. And don't they screen blood for this type of stuff?
I wouldn't mind _any_ blood if it would fix me up in a bad situation.