Really. We are to believe these have some level of technology that is vulnerable to RADAR?
The kids out for a joyride in their parent's fully automated UFO were certainly unprepared to fly it manually when the RADAR, never before encountered by the on board computers, caused an unforeseen case to be fallen into in the code, revealing in the most tragic of ways a previously undiscovered bug in the guidance software.
If you think those with advanced technology would naturally have the best software available, explain the continuing dominance of Microsoft on the desktop? Hmm?
Shit goes wrong. The more complex the technology, the more spectacularly it goes wrong...
Someone? Except that the someone was an official investigator (eye witness) giving testimony to an FBI agent (another credible party). That's world of a difference if you ask me.
Eh? Did you read the memo? Although it doesn't contradict what you just said, there's absolutely no claim made in it that the person in question was an eye witness, and you're being charitable in calling it "giving testimony", as the memo itself says nothing because that it was "said" by this other person. For all we can tell from the memo, it was casually said over a couple of drinks at the local bar, with the off-duty investigator assuming his G-man friend wouldn't take it seriously, much less file a report about it. I have no idea if that's the case, but the memo fails to say anything that contradicts that scenario, either. Don't insert into the memo allegations that it does not itself make.
No "almost" about it. The document is quite plainly a report of what someone said to an FBI agent, who dutifully recorded what the person said and filed the appropriate paperwork. It does not, contrary to the article, confirm a UFO, it confirms only the existence of people who claim the existence of a UFO -- which is hardly in need of further confirmation, being quite well established fact already.
It's a memo. There is no confirmation of the "findings". This is merely a report of what supposedly happened.
It's not even a report of "what supposedly happened", unless by that you mean it reports the fact that someone said something, not that anything actually occurred beyond someone flapping their jaw..
However, assuming it's real for now, WHY HAS THIS NOT LEAD TO A FLURRY OF OTHER EVIDENCE FROM ELSEWHERE?
Because, if you read the document in question, there's no reason to suspect it's not real, nor to think it would lead to other evidence, because all the document says is that someone said there were flying saucers in New Mexico. This is not an incredible claim, nor is it something we don't already know. Lots of people have said there were flying saucers in New Mexico. We knew that before the FBI provided written proof that someone said it. This doesn't "lead" anywhere since it's nothing we didn't already know...
So freezing it and blasting it into space to let it become some comet isn't an option? That's sad we are depriving another alien civilization of super heroes and zombies.
I suspect that you would run into two major problems: [...]
Three. You completely neglected the counterstrike led by super heroes from the alien civilization that did not appreciate us causing a zombie apocalypse.
What exactly is "radioactive water"? Is it water with radioactive solutes in it? Or is it tritiated water? If it's the former, then they could just evaporate it and deal with the precipitate as solid waste. If it's the latter, it's not a big worry anyway, tritium emissions can't even get through a sheet of paper.
You should contact them. You obviously know more about the topic than the nuclear engineers they have working there, and can help solve their problems with ease! I'm sure they'll feel foolish if you wait 30 years to tell them there was a solution 30 years ago that would have just evaporated their problems away...
Gah, yeah. I stopped buying CDs and DVDs a number of years ago because of how often they were damaged like that. This was coincidentally about the same time the music and movie industry started complaining they were losing money due to piracy. I don't know that that's not true, but I remain skeptical for obvious reasons. If I've stopped buying your product because it's so shitty I won't risk spending money on it even if I'm not downloading it, what chance did you really have?
Really? The People's Republic of China, communist in name and fascist in practice, is "about as capitalist as a country can get"?
Yup, absolutely. You're pretty well uninformed about either China or capitalism if you don't recognize this. The fact that their government is communist in name and fascist in practice does nothing to counter the fact that it is one of the most fundamentally capitalist nations in the world. I suspect you might be confusing "nation" with "government" if this seems at all contradictory to you.
That is fucking magical. I dont support this rip off, but DAMN that was a cool idea and well pulled off. This was not some back town hick, but a well thought out plan, using parts brought/found locally.
Bravo engineer/shop keep who made it!!!
I'd seriously buy one, just for the novelty factor...
Seriously? Twitter is not news. Link an actual new site ffs. Thanks.
The BBC is an actual news organization. Their news doesn't become any more or less news depending on which format they choose to publish it in. Cutting and pasting the same text into a different window doesn't change the accuracy of the text.
It isn't and it is. Since stress builds up over time, the comparison to gambler's fallacy isn't a good one -- a lack of a particular result, say, an earthquake this year, really does increase the odds of that result the next year. On the other hand, since the amount of stress that can build up before it "breaks" is unpredictable, so it's nonsense to talk about when a quake is "due", and thus likewise nonsense to talk about it being "overdue".
Maybe someone from the future is trying to sink the island before they start turning out robot armies.
Unfortunately, the way these time-travel-causality things work, it will be their attempts to sink the island that prompt the Japanese to start producing giant robot armies.
"A fake fortuneteller can be tolerated. But an authentic soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get half the kicking around she deserved." -- Lazarus Long
The amazing thing is, despite this not being a mark on the right hand or the forehead, there are people out there who will see this as fulfillment of that prophesy. Seriously, why bother even having a sacred text if you're going to just ignore what it actually says...
How can one not know whether his/her rocket is capable of making it to Mars? Are we talking superpositions here or what?
No, we're talking about reality. In reality, unlike in theory, it takes a lot more to get a rocket to Mars than engineering and sufficient power and fuel. It takes massive funding, political will, and the sustained support of both for several years. There's no engineering equation you can use to calculate if you'll make it to Mars -- the equation will only tell you whether you can do the easy part...
Why would it be homogeneous? Remember, the only part of the Earth's interior that is liquid is the outer core. The mantle is solid, albeit a fairly plastic solid at its temperature. Things "flow" at rates that make Play-Doh look extremely runny. It's just not going to mix out evenly very easily...
At the rate advances in quantum computing are coming, with more and more bits available to be used, I should be able to see quantum computers as powerful as ENIAC before I die! Alas, baring major medical advances, I'm unlikely to see anything as powerful as a quantum TI-99/4A...
Somebody becomes najis by coming into contact with an unclean thing, such as a pig or alcohol, or a person who is najis.
Does that only count for the faithful, or do infidels (like Christians) or kafirs (like myself) become najis if we eat bacon and drink alcohol, even though we lack any proscription against it within our own faiths? I've heard that, although muslims don't approve of it per se, they're at least "okay" with knowing we're doing it, even doing it in their own country, as long as we're not blatantly doing it in front of them.
as another muslim who believes in a slightly modified version of islam. and that same muslim believes you to be an apostate as well. add some "my religion makes it praiseworthy to kill apostates" and you have a nice recipe for centuries of genocide. isn't religion grand?
Yeah, makes you really appreciate non-religious types like Stalin who understood how much better it is to kill millions for other reasons.
Humanity is "grand". Religion is guilty of nothing more than being around to be used an excuse for doing what you wanted to do anyway. Take religion away, and human history would be just as bloody, we'd just cite different reasons for our genocidal ways. Indeed, given the number of religiously motivated pacifists, conscientious objectors, and so on in the world, it's a hard case to make that history would be less bloody without religion rather than more.
Thank God most terrorists / criminals are this dumb. Otherwise we'd probably all be dead.
Unlikely. I know it's impolitic to say so, but if all terrorists were 100% successful in all their plans, a lot more people would die, but the odds you would be one of them would be vanishingly small, and it would not make a significant dent in the world population. I tend to worry about things like car accidents, street crime, and slipping on a wet surface in the bathroom: just three of the many things that kill several orders of magnitude more people every year than terrorism.
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Really. We are to believe these have some level of technology that is vulnerable to RADAR?
The kids out for a joyride in their parent's fully automated UFO were certainly unprepared to fly it manually when the RADAR, never before encountered by the on board computers, caused an unforeseen case to be fallen into in the code, revealing in the most tragic of ways a previously undiscovered bug in the guidance software.
If you think those with advanced technology would naturally have the best software available, explain the continuing dominance of Microsoft on the desktop? Hmm?
Shit goes wrong. The more complex the technology, the more spectacularly it goes wrong...
Was Cleopatra really a beautiful pharaoh if she's actually a pile of dust and bones?
Someone? Except that the someone was an official investigator (eye witness) giving testimony to an FBI agent (another credible party). That's world of a difference if you ask me.
Eh? Did you read the memo? Although it doesn't contradict what you just said, there's absolutely no claim made in it that the person in question was an eye witness, and you're being charitable in calling it "giving testimony", as the memo itself says nothing because that it was "said" by this other person. For all we can tell from the memo, it was casually said over a couple of drinks at the local bar, with the off-duty investigator assuming his G-man friend wouldn't take it seriously, much less file a report about it. I have no idea if that's the case, but the memo fails to say anything that contradicts that scenario, either. Don't insert into the memo allegations that it does not itself make.
The document almost makes it sound like hearsay.
No "almost" about it. The document is quite plainly a report of what someone said to an FBI agent, who dutifully recorded what the person said and filed the appropriate paperwork. It does not, contrary to the article, confirm a UFO, it confirms only the existence of people who claim the existence of a UFO -- which is hardly in need of further confirmation, being quite well established fact already.
It's a memo. There is no confirmation of the "findings". This is merely a report of what supposedly happened.
It's not even a report of "what supposedly happened", unless by that you mean it reports the fact that someone said something, not that anything actually occurred beyond someone flapping their jaw..
However, assuming it's real for now, WHY HAS THIS NOT LEAD TO A FLURRY OF OTHER EVIDENCE FROM ELSEWHERE?
Because, if you read the document in question, there's no reason to suspect it's not real, nor to think it would lead to other evidence, because all the document says is that someone said there were flying saucers in New Mexico. This is not an incredible claim, nor is it something we don't already know. Lots of people have said there were flying saucers in New Mexico. We knew that before the FBI provided written proof that someone said it. This doesn't "lead" anywhere since it's nothing we didn't already know...
What worries me about /. is not that idiotic stuff like this gets posted, but that it gets modded +4 Informative. o.O
So freezing it and blasting it into space to let it become some comet isn't an option? That's sad we are depriving another alien civilization of super heroes and zombies.
I suspect that you would run into two major problems: [...]
Three. You completely neglected the counterstrike led by super heroes from the alien civilization that did not appreciate us causing a zombie apocalypse.
What exactly is "radioactive water"? Is it water with radioactive solutes in it? Or is it tritiated water? If it's the former, then they could just evaporate it and deal with the precipitate as solid waste. If it's the latter, it's not a big worry anyway, tritium emissions can't even get through a sheet of paper.
You should contact them. You obviously know more about the topic than the nuclear engineers they have working there, and can help solve their problems with ease! I'm sure they'll feel foolish if you wait 30 years to tell them there was a solution 30 years ago that would have just evaporated their problems away...
Gah, yeah. I stopped buying CDs and DVDs a number of years ago because of how often they were damaged like that. This was coincidentally about the same time the music and movie industry started complaining they were losing money due to piracy. I don't know that that's not true, but I remain skeptical for obvious reasons. If I've stopped buying your product because it's so shitty I won't risk spending money on it even if I'm not downloading it, what chance did you really have?
Really? The People's Republic of China, communist in name and fascist in practice, is "about as capitalist as a country can get"?
Yup, absolutely. You're pretty well uninformed about either China or capitalism if you don't recognize this. The fact that their government is communist in name and fascist in practice does nothing to counter the fact that it is one of the most fundamentally capitalist nations in the world. I suspect you might be confusing "nation" with "government" if this seems at all contradictory to you.
That is fucking magical. I dont support this rip off, but DAMN that was a cool idea and well pulled off. This was not some back town hick, but a well thought out plan, using parts brought/found locally. Bravo engineer/shop keep who made it!!!
I'd seriously buy one, just for the novelty factor...
Seriously? Twitter is not news. Link an actual new site ffs. Thanks.
The BBC is an actual news organization. Their news doesn't become any more or less news depending on which format they choose to publish it in. Cutting and pasting the same text into a different window doesn't change the accuracy of the text.
Overdue? Sounds like gambler's fallacy to me.
It isn't and it is. Since stress builds up over time, the comparison to gambler's fallacy isn't a good one -- a lack of a particular result, say, an earthquake this year, really does increase the odds of that result the next year. On the other hand, since the amount of stress that can build up before it "breaks" is unpredictable, so it's nonsense to talk about when a quake is "due", and thus likewise nonsense to talk about it being "overdue".
Maybe someone from the future is trying to sink the island before they start turning out robot armies.
Unfortunately, the way these time-travel-causality things work, it will be their attempts to sink the island that prompt the Japanese to start producing giant robot armies.
"A fake fortuneteller can be tolerated. But an authentic soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get half the kicking around she deserved." -- Lazarus Long
Double-right-clicking will get the context menu up. (I'm using Firefox 3.6.16.)
The amazing thing is, despite this not being a mark on the right hand or the forehead, there are people out there who will see this as fulfillment of that prophesy. Seriously, why bother even having a sacred text if you're going to just ignore what it actually says...
How can one not know whether his/her rocket is capable of making it to Mars? Are we talking superpositions here or what?
No, we're talking about reality. In reality, unlike in theory, it takes a lot more to get a rocket to Mars than engineering and sufficient power and fuel. It takes massive funding, political will, and the sustained support of both for several years. There's no engineering equation you can use to calculate if you'll make it to Mars -- the equation will only tell you whether you can do the easy part...
Why would it be homogeneous? Remember, the only part of the Earth's interior that is liquid is the outer core. The mantle is solid, albeit a fairly plastic solid at its temperature. Things "flow" at rates that make Play-Doh look extremely runny. It's just not going to mix out evenly very easily...
At the rate advances in quantum computing are coming, with more and more bits available to be used, I should be able to see quantum computers as powerful as ENIAC before I die! Alas, baring major medical advances, I'm unlikely to see anything as powerful as a quantum TI-99/4A...
Can I have your stuff?
Aren't April Fools jokes supposed to be funny and, you know, fool you?
Yeah, right. Next you're gonna say Easter is about some guy getting executed instead of cute bunnies hiding candy or something...
Somebody becomes najis by coming into contact with an unclean thing, such as a pig or alcohol, or a person who is najis.
Does that only count for the faithful, or do infidels (like Christians) or kafirs (like myself) become najis if we eat bacon and drink alcohol, even though we lack any proscription against it within our own faiths? I've heard that, although muslims don't approve of it per se, they're at least "okay" with knowing we're doing it, even doing it in their own country, as long as we're not blatantly doing it in front of them.
as another muslim who believes in a slightly modified version of islam. and that same muslim believes you to be an apostate as well. add some "my religion makes it praiseworthy to kill apostates" and you have a nice recipe for centuries of genocide. isn't religion grand?
Yeah, makes you really appreciate non-religious types like Stalin who understood how much better it is to kill millions for other reasons.
Humanity is "grand". Religion is guilty of nothing more than being around to be used an excuse for doing what you wanted to do anyway. Take religion away, and human history would be just as bloody, we'd just cite different reasons for our genocidal ways. Indeed, given the number of religiously motivated pacifists, conscientious objectors, and so on in the world, it's a hard case to make that history would be less bloody without religion rather than more.
Thank God most terrorists / criminals are this dumb. Otherwise we'd probably all be dead.
Unlikely. I know it's impolitic to say so, but if all terrorists were 100% successful in all their plans, a lot more people would die, but the odds you would be one of them would be vanishingly small, and it would not make a significant dent in the world population. I tend to worry about things like car accidents, street crime, and slipping on a wet surface in the bathroom: just three of the many things that kill several orders of magnitude more people every year than terrorism.