Firstly, it's not my course. And secondly, judging by the discussion that followed your message, I'd say it can be a tool for discussion. A tool for discussion is not necessarially imply endorsement - ever discuss a propaganda video, or the KKK, or anything else you don't agree with? (I'm trying to avoid breaking Godwin's Law by not comparing, but including a reference here.)
Remeber, I said that I have not yet watched the movie, and I can't take credit (or blame) for anything involved in it in a course at this time.
This is the kinds of grass roots action I'd love to see from/. I believe it a was suggested that **AA has their own Senators (Senator Disney anyone?) so the net should work to "buy" their own Senator. Dave Winer in his infamous Scripting news pointed to this idea 2 years ago by Matt Goyer. Boucher isn't a senstor, and his actions say he doesn't (and han't been) bought. (Link to the contributionn database I can't recall right now, since I should be asleep.)
Anyone have nomination for someone in the senate with a track record like Boucher who we can put a/. lobby behind? Senator/. might turn out to be a good title. I'm sure Boucher would appreciate the contribution.
I may submit this as an Ask Slashdot. Now that is a useful Ask Slashdot if I ever heard of one.
I've been asked to perform what could be considered DCMA prohibited activities for *my job* and in the name of *fair rights*. I work for an educational instution, and we have been contacted by an instructor who wants to use a part Bowling for Columbine in their humanities course, delievered over the net. Since the copy the professor owns is on DVD, DCMA would have to be violated for it to be used, even within the educational use guidelines for fair use. From talking with my co-workers, one of whom owns BfC on DVD also, it's a good movie, and he's going to loan it to me next week so I can watch it. We're waiting on permission / legal advice of the school to act on this content being brought into the course. Just what I need to have added to "duties as required". Personally, I think this could be a great addition to the course, and it should be well within normal fair use guidelines. (Streaming it, so it's not easily savable, quality will be crap so it can go over a modem, and a student may want to go buy/rent the movie after discussing part of it in class.) The movie even has a Teacher's Guide!
Sounds like a scenerio that should be protected, not made illegal, which, since it's on DVD and Macrovisioned on VHS, it is by the DCMA - even if permission is granted we'd have to circumvent encryption to do it! But IIRC, it's distributed by Miramax, which is a division of Disney, so who know if it will be allowed.
Consistently, every time I hear something about Rep. Boucher, I'm proud to say he's the only politician I'm actually proud to vote for. (I think he's in some kind or political party, but I don't hold it against him.) And boy does he ever look like a/. geek. I bet he doesn't get many dates with the ladies either (that's an inside joke for those who know about Rep. Boucher).
Don't just throw your support against something like the **AA. When you're given the opportuninty, throw your support *for* something. Let your representatives know that you are for something here, not just against things. It makes you feel better as a person too. Boucher gets my support every time he comes up for re-election, and is one reason I'm against term limits. He's someone I like, and I want him to stay there damn it!
(For the record, I hate a 2 party system, can't stand disliking 95% of the choices I have to vote for, etc. Discussions that follow on the nature of politics/politicians/politicial parties will be sent to/dev/null. Discussions on activision are another story.)
There's hardly a for-profit that doesn't do this. Thinkgeek has copyrights, and possibly some patents, Sourceforge has software for sale, and there are probably more examples.
What you don't see is VA Linux suing people or companies while refusing to show what they are suing over. It's a *business* afterall. Businesses can be good citizens, or bad bullies (and shades in between). Just because VA Linux uses NDAs (standard in the industry), copyright and patents (they sell stuff afterall) and trade-secrets (to protect what they are working on) does not mean they are SCO, or even in their ball park. The develop and deliver more products than lawsuits.
Heck, I'm using/. and the only thing they get out of me are page views and the occasional click through on an ad. Thinkgeek has gotten my money though - some of those shirts are just too good to not wear to work and "you will be replaced by a small shell script" has become a popular phrase where I work. Hardly sounds like a evil company, but one that does make their money off of IP.
This was the only driving game I ever played before Grand Toursismo 3 with the force feedback wheel. It's just not the same on a free spinning wheel or joystick. What will make or break this as a buy for me is if hard Drivin' has force feedback capabilities. If it does, I'm buying it the day it hits the shelves. If not, well, why bother?
Heck, the CD I have is out of date and I have to go to the developer's tools page http://developer.apple.com/ to download the newest version anyway. Why bother giving me a CD? Just a pamphlet (nice and bio-degradeable and recycled paper if you could please, since I'm throwing it away anyway) giving me the URL?
Or a link from the OS? OH wait! There is one! Apple Menu, Mac OS X Software, Clink on "Developer" in the web site's menu.
Why were we talking about distributing CDs again? Developers will most likely be downloading the latest version of the tools anyway. (Have you not updated gcc? Visual C++?) Make the tools available, and they will code.
Can the editors mod his original comment down? He's admitted it's wrong, but it's still at "+5 Informative" even though it's been pointed out and agreed to that it is backwards of what he thought. *sigh* for some mod points right now (and it'd probably be meta-modded by some dolt as unfair if I did mod it down).
You seem to have the twisting level of the storylines of.hack mixed up. Considering their intertwining, it's easy to do. You're confusing.hack//SIGN with the.hack games (saying one of the.hack games is also misleading, as they are all continuations of the same game, just serialized).
In.hack//SIGN, one character, Tsukasa, is stuck in the MMORPG world, "The World". In the game(s), you play the character, Kite, who is *not stuck* in "The World", but his friend, Orca, who introduced him to the game, is in a coma in real life (IRL) as a result of the game, and really if also from an event that occurred in "The World". This is to say nothing of.hack//LIMINALITY, which is all based IRL, trying to discover why players go into comas when playing in "The WORLD". Also there is.hack//legend of the twilight (aka.hack//udeden or.hack//dusk) where the story is about two twins who are in different parts of a divorced family IRL, and meet up in "The World" under equally confusing circumstances.
It is the best combination of storyline, multiple media (anime and gaming - there are magna I don't have), and so many other concepts such as game levels, philosophy (what is reality anyway?), identity on the net vs. IRL, escapism, creating a better life for yourself IRL via online, etc. I've ever experienced. (Plus the music is excellent, so the OSTs are definitey worth listening to). I have 2 more games to play, but I've taken a break at the request of my family so they know I'm still alive myself. My.sig has said it for a couple of months now, and I'm about to dive back into the games.
The best site I've found to sort this all out (and it took me a while myself) is.hack//info center. A well dubbed version of the anime is on the Cartoon Network at the not great hour of mignight on Sunday.
It is the best gaming experience I've had, and I've given (some might say lost) about 1/4 of my waking hours to video games, and the best video experience I've watched. It is also a great example of going way beyone the barriers of traditional game "walls", as you are forced to think on more that just the level of one player, one controller, one identity. The concept of playing a simulated MMORPG alone breaks that barrier well. You interact with other characters that have not only in-game personas, but converse with you about their IRL issues and talk to you as if you were conversing with them IRL. You play Kite, who is an 8th grader IRL, and has his own interests, and friends (he knows Orca IRL). The twins in.hack//udeden who want to be together IRL, meeting in "The World". I can type and analyze this for hours. Give in to it, as it will change the way you look at games, especially online games. Not to mention, it's a damn good RPG game by itself.
Posting above from here and here seem to point out the biggest issues to instill fear in everyone who is not in the "in" croud producing these guidelines.
1. Palladium (or something similar) regulated to be included in the effected industries. 2. Programmers not Corp. will be liable. You think the one programmer to be the scapegoat for the big blackout wants to be held responsible? Who cares that his boss pressures him, that there is supposed to be a QA department? He used a null pointer and he should burn in hell!
This would be a great application for system logs. You think your e-mail is full of spam and worthless junk, try going through MB of multiple sysem logs a day. I know there are logwatch tools, but AFAIK, they're regex based. A Bayesian approach would be great, as it would learn what I care about and what I don't. Heck, I might be able to convince work I need to write on now. Time to Google and see if such a thing exists.
The commercial / non-commercial isn't the reason - it's that mp3 is a proprietary format, and Fedora is still backed by RedHat. Royalty issues for mp3 have been talkedaboutbeforeonslashdot, and I don't see RedHat giving the nod to distributing mp3 decoders in Fedora any more than in the RedHat Enterprise distributions. It's the same as distributing the NTFS modules. New Fedora releases shouldn't effect this decision.
Just grab XMMS RPMS for Fedora from their home page and let RedHat worry about what they distribute. NTFS module RPMS are available as well.
When you're trying to replicate problems with a live site, however, it would seem more appropriate to me if you could base your test on real traffic to the site.
Assuming a standard apache common log format, you can just install siege, then run:
awk '{print "http://www.iddl.vt.edu"$7}' access_log>/usr/local/etc/urls.txt Run siege using this file, and you have it running based on actual traffic on your site. I just threw this together, and initial testing shows that it can work this way.
Seriously, I don't see why any application should have a skin at all. The only skin I should have to select is for my desktop environment. The applications can use that skin.
I believe you just described the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines (being re-written by OSX). Now if they would just make the !@#$@# thing customizeable like it used to be in OS 9.....
Instead of just karma whore with a wget, I made a listing for the Distributed Mirror Project of the site. I added the mirrors listed here (that I could connect to), and they are listed on the DMP page for this site
This way I'm Karma whoring for doing some real work for this wonderful site she made, and oh yeah./. will get something after it uses her bandwidth up (unless someone had graciously upgraded her account, in which case mod me to oblivion - I've got karma to burn.)
Yum (included in Fedora) and apt with RPMs make an excellent combination. I find apt to be about the same as this combination, but less intuitive for me.
From the Yum page: Yum is an automatic updater and package installer/remover for rpm systems. It automatically computes dependencies and figures out what things should occur to install packages. It makes it easier to maintain groups of machines without having to manually update each one using rpm.
Try it in ferdora - it's delicious
Combined with such repositories as ATrpms and FreshRPMS and I can find and install about any software title I'm looking for and have the dependencies installed easily.
While PJ is on the side that is generally against SCO and Linux, that is because she is on the side of finding the truth of the issues relating to SCO. The truth is against SCO because they are not looking at things with more than an eye for profit. If she (and the others at groklaw) were to find that there was a place for infringement in Linux, you can bet that she would be the first to e-mail a copy of it to LKML so that those that are interested in protecting Linux are able to insure it is clean, or becomes clean, and remains clean.
Linux will not come through this because it's better at hiding things than SCO, but because it is better at opening things up to be revealed to all than SCO. Such a history only reveals more truth to Linux and its development, and can only help Linux.
Image if they did find something. How long it would remain in the kernel? Everyone would switch to non-tainted kernels, and SCO would have no one left to sue.
See my post above about doing just such a thing as a vehicle for discussion.
I just stole your car jack. Change your car's flat time by the side of the road.
Firstly, it's not my course. And secondly, judging by the discussion that followed your message, I'd say it can be a tool for discussion. A tool for discussion is not necessarially imply endorsement - ever discuss a propaganda video, or the KKK, or anything else you don't agree with? (I'm trying to avoid breaking Godwin's Law by not comparing, but including a reference here.)
Remeber, I said that I have not yet watched the movie, and I can't take credit (or blame) for anything involved in it in a course at this time.
This is the kinds of grass roots action I'd love to see from /. I believe it a was suggested that **AA has their own Senators (Senator Disney anyone?) so the net should work to "buy" their own Senator. Dave Winer in his infamous Scripting news pointed to this idea 2 years ago by Matt Goyer. Boucher isn't a senstor, and his actions say he doesn't (and han't been) bought. (Link to the contributionn database I can't recall right now, since I should be asleep.)
/. lobby behind? Senator /. might turn out to be a good title. I'm sure Boucher would appreciate the contribution.
Anyone have nomination for someone in the senate with a track record like Boucher who we can put a
I may submit this as an Ask Slashdot. Now that is a useful Ask Slashdot if I ever heard of one.
I've been asked to perform what could be considered DCMA prohibited activities for *my job* and in the name of *fair rights*. I work for an educational instution, and we have been contacted by an instructor who wants to use a part Bowling for Columbine in their humanities course, delievered over the net. Since the copy the professor owns is on DVD, DCMA would have to be violated for it to be used, even within the educational use guidelines for fair use. From talking with my co-workers, one of whom owns BfC on DVD also, it's a good movie, and he's going to loan it to me next week so I can watch it. We're waiting on permission / legal advice of the school to act on this content being brought into the course. Just what I need to have added to "duties as required". Personally, I think this could be a great addition to the course, and it should be well within normal fair use guidelines. (Streaming it, so it's not easily savable, quality will be crap so it can go over a modem, and a student may want to go buy/rent the movie after discussing part of it in class.) The movie even has a Teacher's Guide!
Sounds like a scenerio that should be protected, not made illegal, which, since it's on DVD and Macrovisioned on VHS, it is by the DCMA - even if permission is granted we'd have to circumvent encryption to do it! But IIRC, it's distributed by Miramax, which is a division of Disney, so who know if it will be allowed.
Consistently, every time I hear something about Rep. Boucher, I'm proud to say he's the only politician I'm actually proud to vote for. (I think he's in some kind or political party, but I don't hold it against him.) And boy does he ever look like a /. geek. I bet he doesn't get many dates with the ladies either (that's an inside joke for those who know about Rep. Boucher).
/dev/null. Discussions on activision are another story.)
Don't just throw your support against something like the **AA. When you're given the opportuninty, throw your support *for* something. Let your representatives know that you are for something here, not just against things. It makes you feel better as a person too. Boucher gets my support every time he comes up for re-election, and is one reason I'm against term limits. He's someone I like, and I want him to stay there damn it!
(For the record, I hate a 2 party system, can't stand disliking 95% of the choices I have to vote for, etc. Discussions that follow on the nature of politics/politicians/politicial parties will be sent to
Never assume a company (or frequently, a person) will be as you know them now. The only thing that stays the same is change.
New CEO can turn Caldera from a linux company into SCO. Or it can turn Lego into a litigation driven company. You never know.
Well, that was a damn quick reaction on the part of the webmaster, because they're all 401 errors now. Must be a /. reader. "Oh Crap! That's MY site!"
Anyone got the pages in their cache they can put up somewhere? Heck, I can mirror them if you do.
There's hardly a for-profit that doesn't do this. Thinkgeek has copyrights, and possibly some patents, Sourceforge has software for sale, and there are probably more examples.
/. and the only thing they get out of me are page views and the occasional click through on an ad. Thinkgeek has gotten my money though - some of those shirts are just too good to not wear to work and "you will be replaced by a small shell script" has become a popular phrase where I work. Hardly sounds like a evil company, but one that does make their money off of IP.
What you don't see is VA Linux suing people or companies while refusing to show what they are suing over. It's a *business* afterall. Businesses can be good citizens, or bad bullies (and shades in between). Just because VA Linux uses NDAs (standard in the industry), copyright and patents (they sell stuff afterall) and trade-secrets (to protect what they are working on) does not mean they are SCO, or even in their ball park. The develop and deliver more products than lawsuits.
Heck, I'm using
This was the only driving game I ever played before Grand Toursismo 3 with the force feedback wheel. It's just not the same on a free spinning wheel or joystick. What will make or break this as a buy for me is if hard Drivin' has force feedback capabilities. If it does, I'm buying it the day it hits the shelves. If not, well, why bother?
Heck, the CD I have is out of date and I have to go to the developer's tools page http://developer.apple.com/ to download the newest version anyway. Why bother giving me a CD? Just a pamphlet (nice and bio-degradeable and recycled paper if you could please, since I'm throwing it away anyway) giving me the URL?
Or a link from the OS? OH wait! There is one! Apple Menu, Mac OS X Software, Clink on "Developer" in the web site's menu.
Why were we talking about distributing CDs again? Developers will most likely be downloading the latest version of the tools anyway. (Have you not updated gcc? Visual C++?) Make the tools available, and they will code.
Can the editors mod his original comment down? He's admitted it's wrong, but it's still at "+5 Informative" even though it's been pointed out and agreed to that it is backwards of what he thought. *sigh* for some mod points right now (and it'd probably be meta-modded by some dolt as unfair if I did mod it down).
You seem to have the twisting level of the storylines of .hack mixed up. Considering their intertwining, it's easy to do. You're confusing .hack//SIGN with the .hack games (saying one of the .hack games is also misleading, as they are all continuations of the same game, just serialized).
.hack//SIGN, one character, Tsukasa, is stuck in the MMORPG world, "The World". In the game(s), you play the character, Kite, who is *not stuck* in "The World", but his friend, Orca, who introduced him to the game, is in a coma in real life (IRL) as a result of the game, and really if also from an event that occurred in "The World". This is to say nothing of .hack//LIMINALITY, which is all based IRL, trying to discover why players go into comas when playing in "The WORLD". Also there is .hack//legend of the twilight (aka .hack//udeden or .hack//dusk) where the story is about two twins who are in different parts of a divorced family IRL, and meet up in "The World" under equally confusing circumstances.
.sig has said it for a couple of months now, and I'm about to dive back into the games.
.hack//info center. A well dubbed version of the anime is on the Cartoon Network at the not great hour of mignight on Sunday.
.hack//udeden who want to be together IRL, meeting in "The World". I can type and analyze this for hours. Give in to it, as it will change the way you look at games, especially online games. Not to mention, it's a damn good RPG game by itself.
In
It is the best combination of storyline, multiple media (anime and gaming - there are magna I don't have), and so many other concepts such as game levels, philosophy (what is reality anyway?), identity on the net vs. IRL, escapism, creating a better life for yourself IRL via online, etc. I've ever experienced. (Plus the music is excellent, so the OSTs are definitey worth listening to). I have 2 more games to play, but I've taken a break at the request of my family so they know I'm still alive myself. My
The best site I've found to sort this all out (and it took me a while myself) is
It is the best gaming experience I've had, and I've given (some might say lost) about 1/4 of my waking hours to video games, and the best video experience I've watched. It is also a great example of going way beyone the barriers of traditional game "walls", as you are forced to think on more that just the level of one player, one controller, one identity. The concept of playing a simulated MMORPG alone breaks that barrier well. You interact with other characters that have not only in-game personas, but converse with you about their IRL issues and talk to you as if you were conversing with them IRL. You play Kite, who is an 8th grader IRL, and has his own interests, and friends (he knows Orca IRL). The twins in
Posting above from here and here seem to point out the biggest issues to instill fear in everyone who is not in the "in" croud producing these guidelines.
1. Palladium (or something similar) regulated to be included in the effected industries.
2. Programmers not Corp. will be liable. You think the one programmer to be the scapegoat for the big blackout wants to be held responsible? Who cares that his boss pressures him, that there is supposed to be a QA department? He used a null pointer and he should burn in hell!
This would be a great application for system logs. You think your e-mail is full of spam and worthless junk, try going through MB of multiple sysem logs a day. I know there are logwatch tools, but AFAIK, they're regex based. A Bayesian approach would be great, as it would learn what I care about and what I don't. Heck, I might be able to convince work I need to write on now. Time to Google and see if such a thing exists.
The commercial / non-commercial isn't the reason - it's that mp3 is a proprietary format, and Fedora is still backed by RedHat. Royalty issues for mp3 have been talked about before on slashdot, and I don't see RedHat giving the nod to distributing mp3 decoders in Fedora any more than in the RedHat Enterprise distributions. It's the same as distributing the NTFS modules. New Fedora releases shouldn't effect this decision.
Just grab XMMS RPMS for Fedora from their home page and let RedHat worry about what they distribute. NTFS module RPMS are available as well.
When you're trying to replicate problems with a live site, however, it would seem more appropriate to me if you could base your test on real traffic to the site.
Assuming a standard apache common log format, you can just install siege, then run:
awk '{print "http://www.iddl.vt.edu"$7}' access_log>/usr/local/etc/urls.txt
Run siege using this file, and you have it running based on actual traffic on your site. I just threw this together, and initial testing shows that it can work this way.
Seriously, I don't see why any application should have a skin at all. The only skin I should have to select is for my desktop environment. The applications can use that skin.
I believe you just described the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines (being re-written by OSX). Now if they would just make the !@#$@# thing customizeable like it used to be in OS 9.....
No way that I can tell from her site. This site deserves to be translated though. It's a true example of history on the web.
Instead of just karma whore with a wget, I made a listing for the Distributed Mirror Project of the site. I added the mirrors listed here (that I could connect to), and they are listed on the DMP page for this site
/. will get something after it uses her bandwidth up (unless someone had graciously upgraded her account, in which case mod me to oblivion - I've got karma to burn.)
This way I'm Karma whoring for doing some real work for this wonderful site she made, and oh yeah.
Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones, which have a lining of Iridium & Strontium 90)
.sig seems wrong posted in this context. I don't believe we've gotten to see what his jacket is lined with.
Your
There is a port in the works for NuBus machines. I have not tried it though.
Yum (included in Fedora) and apt with RPMs make an excellent combination. I find apt to be about the same as this combination, but less intuitive for me.
From the Yum page: Yum is an automatic updater and package installer/remover for rpm systems. It automatically computes dependencies and figures out what things should occur to install packages. It makes it easier to maintain groups of machines without having to manually update each one using rpm.
Try it in ferdora - it's delicious
Combined with such repositories as ATrpms and FreshRPMS and I can find and install about any software title I'm looking for and have the dependencies installed easily.
It's stil on comedy central. I've got to get my MythTV bix working again, because I'd have never foudn it if it wern't for that great software.
While PJ is on the side that is generally against SCO and Linux, that is because she is on the side of finding the truth of the issues relating to SCO. The truth is against SCO because they are not looking at things with more than an eye for profit. If she (and the others at groklaw) were to find that there was a place for infringement in Linux, you can bet that she would be the first to e-mail a copy of it to LKML so that those that are interested in protecting Linux are able to insure it is clean, or becomes clean, and remains clean.
Linux will not come through this because it's better at hiding things than SCO, but because it is better at opening things up to be revealed to all than SCO. Such a history only reveals more truth to Linux and its development, and can only help Linux.
Image if they did find something. How long it would remain in the kernel? Everyone would switch to non-tainted kernels, and SCO would have no one left to sue.
Revealing the truth can only help Linux