When you've used those same resources as an able bodied person with a stroller, a hand truck, had your hands too full to open the door, etc. you learn that it should be a requirement everywhere, for more reasons the the ADA. You may not realize it, but many other than handicapped inviduals benefit from those accomidations.
While it may cost money, it's not "extra" if it's something that should be there in the first place for everyone's benefit. That's like saying that the guard rails on the side of the road come at a "higher financial cost to society" just because you haven't hit one yet.
I was going to moderate this, but it's much better to post instead anyway....;)
So what does the community need to start this process on it's own? Is there a place that can be watched to look for pending applications that a group can get into to send up alerts? I've seen what Groklaw can do for/to SCO. It'd be great to see what can be done with the community model towards patents under review, before we get to bitch about them here on Slashdot.
The patent thing has gotten out of hand, but it sound likke there may be something already in place to be used to bring it back into reality, esp. in the area of computers and priot art. I want to do something, but I have no idea where to begin. Any more info available on this? I'm too busy putting the kids to bed to look this up (they're compaining to me now as I write this), so pointers would be great.
I'm on the flip side. Send links to/. to your boss to show that good, useful, and work related information can come as a result of reading/. It's called research, keeping up with technological trends, and a ton of other more management friendly phrases. I/. at work, but I do it with work in mind, so it is work (and I do it at home as well, so I wind up working after hours by doing the same thing, such as right now). I can say (with good reason) that the article on Simulating Network Latency is *very* relevant to work as a systme administrator. Just remember you're working, and don't send links to/. atricles that are way out of scope or send links to posts *you* make. The discussion may be interesting to your boss, and you may get kudos for reading/.
The SCO web version is a written version of a live speech. I don't know many people who write swearing into their speeches. They put it in when they feel like it. I hardly cal about 4 swear words laced with obscenities, but I'm a Nevy brat, so my swearing standards are on the more liberal side.
Why I'm responding to a troll is beyond me, but I'll point out 2 reasons why even the trolls should RTFA.
According to SCO's own release and the review, a maximum of 8 processors are supported, not "scaling to hundreds of CPUs" as the parent states. Also, the review actually said more about SCO's products than I've ever gotten from SCO themselves, even back in '95 when I was looking for a UNIX for Intel (I chose Linux mainly because I couldn't find enough info on SCO, and the BSD documentation was something I wasn't able to make sense out of at the time). Admin GUIs are not something I expected from SCO, but apparently they're there. Their clustering technology is intriguing, and is another thing I didn't know they were even capable of.
If for no other reason than to "know your enemy" a good "technical" review of their product speaks more than any press on either sides of the lawsuits can for the company in the long run.
For those that must know, I run a number of servers, mostly Red hat ES 3.0 servers (including a 3 tier LVS cluster), with some Win 2k/2003 mixed in, and am writing this from a Powerbook running OS X. It's glad to know that is doesn't sound like SCO has made any jumps that would make me consider their product for work, so I need not fear the dark side.
You obviously have no knowledge what so ever about CAVEs or you would know that this Ask/. has at least done some homework. Enough to know that there are competing libraries for use in a CAVE, and that there are strengths and weaknesses to them. While/. may not the best place to ask for opinions on a CAVE, I can't think (or find even after some effort) of a better place to ask. There is no CAVE newsgroup or mailing list to Google (which was actually a suprise, but in some ways not a suprise from the politics of CAVEs that I've heard about). Slashdot at least has a chance of finding some with experience, and it sure beats asking K5 in that regard!
Basically, if you don't know anything about the subject being asked, don't assume anyone else does either. WorthlessManatee has done more homework that this troll. If you don't have anything to add, there is no need to insult the questioner.
To add actually add to the topic, I have met some of the programmers who have worked on DIVERSE (there is a CAVE across the hall at work), and they seem a smart bunch, but I haven't actually been in a CAVE since before DIVERSE was a pilot project, so I can't say if the libraries are good or not.
Warranty != MTBF. Nor does it guarantee uptime. The newest and cheapest cars in America always start with the longest warranties. That doesn't mean they're going to more reliable than any other vehicle. They want to add value in your mind, but not effect the actual value of the product. Few car owners keep their cars for 10 years/10k miles, and few servers are still production for 5 years, and I don't want to have my RAID degrated for the time it takes to get a factory replacement if at all possible.
And yes, I can get a 486 with a 120MB drive going as a server, but the OP didn't ask what someone on slashdot *can* do, but to hear suggestions based on experience. I would never recommend a 486 as a server, but if the local school/non-profit/cheap bastard has that, and can only go with that, then I wouldn't be asking about new hardware when I do it. I'd be digging for 30 pin SIMS and an ISA network card (I know I had one in the basement somewhere, damn it!).
Our 1 SATA drive we have in our shop has been replaced. That's a sample size of 1, take it for what you paid for it - nothing (or pennies if you subscribe).
As Tim Bray has pointed out, the RSS discussion has ended by rule of Godwin's Law. Dave was the first to bring up the Soup Nazi, and so he has therefore lost.
As others have mentioned, you can use the System install disk to change your root password (which may be what was done to you). At the first splash screen, look in the menu bar to select the pasword reset utility.
Also, if you'd like to look around, you can boot into single user mode using command-s when booting. once you see the command prompt, just go nuts.
Another option is to boot off of another drive with the OS on it. Target disk mode is very handy for this. you can do it with 2 desktops, or one laptop and one desktop. An external drive is possible. Also, you can find ways to make a bootable OS X CD to work from w/o working from the original drive if you can get to another Mac to build the CD on.
I'll second that and add another comment. If you are someone with a clue working tech support help lines (esp. Tier 1), you'd be looking for another job. That's why they call these entry level positions! I don't know of anyone who goes into computers hoping to work at a call center. My dream is to take calls all day from lUsers! Same deal with floor sales people. (I've done both in an effort to get started, and am now doing neither, thankfully. Every once in a while is OK, but too much raises your blood pressure.) Those I know with no clue tended to stay longer at these jobs than those with a clue. Would you want these people in a position with actual technical responsibility? That's why they hang out until they can graduate to becoming a PHB.
This makes me wonder if there is a Open Source, cross platform MMO, preferably with a decent userbase. I'm sure I've heard of one existing, but when I looked at it, there didn't appear to be enough users to sustain it.
Heck, EOL titles like this should have the source released, at least for the executables (ala Quake, Quake II...) so that players who are inclined and capable can fix them. It's not like they don't make most of their money off of the subscriptions, and they don't necessarially need to open source that part of the program. They'll still make money off of the addicts.
For that matter, why not make all MMOs this way? Would there be a cheating issue? I've never coded a decent sized project, much less a game or network code, so I'd have no idea if open source would help or not.
*Theoretically* you can use the above suggestions to upgrade via yum or apt. I'd suggest using the boot.iso to use anaconda to install over the network, since it is supported. I haven't done any of these though, so YMMV.
Patches! RH 8/9 is past EOL and is not patched by redhat. Fedora Leagcy is working on patching these system, but where I have nothing holding me back (damn legacy apps), I've switched to a newer release.
I won't compare other distros, but FC has been as solid as RedHat, including my install of RHES I use as a workstation to develop for the servers I run. I find RHES too limiting, and prefer to work on my FC installs. Been great for the 3 machines I have it on. Desktop, Notebook and one Server (my home server runs FC, work used RHES). Server is still running FC 1. Desktop and notebook have had the FC 2 tests since the beginning. No crashes, no problems with my hardware, etc.
Opening the official.torrent and pointing it to the renamed directory, checks the files out just fine. Given the reliability of the leaked torrent's tracker, I wouldn't be suprised if some didn't get the complete files before it went to crap. You should (theoretically) be able to do the same rename of the directory with corrupted / incomplete downloads of the leaked torrent and join the official stream, and BT should just pick up where the file is messed up and continue from there. Sure beats starting from scratch.
I d/l the leak with the intention of joining the official stream when it went up, since I've got a server that is a seed with a good sized.edu pipe.
The md5 sums match the "leaked" torrent, so if you have that, there is no need to re-download even to join the official torrent by getting the.torrent and renaming your directory appropriately.
I may biting at what appears to be an AC troll, and the thread is off topic, but I've wanted some answers to this, so I'm asking.
While I pay (still paying the student loans) to learn things, I do not believe in paying for what I do know know the purpose of. This analogy even holds as the argument of paying for the material is included. I'm still paying for college after all.
College learning works as an analogy here, even to the point of the first year med student to heart surgeon, based on the arguments I've heard from Scientologists. My issues revole around these concepts though. A prospective first year med student, while they are not qualified to perform surgery, at least is capable of looking at the course plan to be taught in the school they are looking at attending. Let's see, Intro Anatomy is in the first year, while Advance Ventricular Disease is taught 3rd year. (I'm not even close to a med student). You don't have to understand 3rd year courses to look at the basics, descriptions and plan before entering medical school. Showing me to cut into someone is dangerous, but knowing that I will be able to do this in the future is important. Each year is costs $xxx,xxx in tuition, and estimated to cose $x,xxx in books, etc. But in the end, assuming I complete the program, the courses will lead to a qualification in heart surgery. These concepts can be learned before you spend a single dollar. I shopped for my undergraduate college and program in this manner.
So, given this, why does it not seem possible to find such materials on the plan of study in the CoS withouth looking at "leaked documents"? Religion arguments aside, CoS is based on learning. I want to know what I would learn, and have some idea of what it will cost me to learn it before I enroll.
Please, members of the CoS or possibly ex-members only respond (unless you have a link to an appropriate site. Not Clambake! I know that one, and many others. I've seen Fishman, etc.)
I'm definitely for buying the DVD when it comes out (and I agree from the desciption they will put one out - it'd be a damn shame not too). I just don't want to wait, and I'll take a crap bootleg now to hold me over until the real thing is produced. It's not my fault I couldn't afford to go to E3 for the concert. This would have made a great Pay-per-View. Better than profrssional wrestling, that's for sure.
Aside from X-2 (which felt more like the pre-VII days than anything), none of the FFs have really been a sequel. They have similar production teams, but the only thing that has been connected between them have been things like Cid. The stories are new and unrelated, though they follow a format that many RPGs follow. I still find a new plot line twist there to keep it from being "just another FF". I've yet to find one that wasn't new enough to make it worth playing as an individual game.
The "FF" moniker really tells you who is working on the game, not that it's a sequel. If "FF" was spun off as it's own company, say a "wholely owned subsidary of SquareEnix" then they could probably name the titles something different and just call the company Final Fantasy Productions. The most wouldn't claim it's a collection of sequels.
I currently have 2 torrents open on a development server here at work. Fedora Core 2 Test 3 (we're not even talking release software) has from this machine alone, uploaded 199GB. I also have Knoppix 3.4 English with 48BG.
Sounds like someone is using it for good use. You can probably look that the individual torrents page for FC2T3 and Knoppixv3.4_EN and see with just these two examples.
It's a distance learning course, or else I'm sure the professor would have done this. It would be a bit rude to make the students buy the DVD just so they can discuss a few minutes of it. That is what fair use in education is supposed to be about.
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Since the OP is now +5 Informative, I'd say it's probably more than just a FP. It just happened to be first (subscriber probably).
When you've used those same resources as an able bodied person with a stroller, a hand truck, had your hands too full to open the door, etc. you learn that it should be a requirement everywhere, for more reasons the the ADA. You may not realize it, but many other than handicapped inviduals benefit from those accomidations.
While it may cost money, it's not "extra" if it's something that should be there in the first place for everyone's benefit. That's like saying that the guard rails on the side of the road come at a "higher financial cost to society" just because you haven't hit one yet.
I was going to moderate this, but it's much better to post instead anyway.... ;)
So what does the community need to start this process on it's own? Is there a place that can be watched to look for pending applications that a group can get into to send up alerts? I've seen what Groklaw can do for/to SCO. It'd be great to see what can be done with the community model towards patents under review, before we get to bitch about them here on Slashdot.
The patent thing has gotten out of hand, but it sound likke there may be something already in place to be used to bring it back into reality, esp. in the area of computers and priot art. I want to do something, but I have no idea where to begin. Any more info available on this? I'm too busy putting the kids to bed to look this up (they're compaining to me now as I write this), so pointers would be great.
I'm on the flip side. Send links to /. to your boss to show that good, useful, and work related information can come as a result of reading /. It's called research, keeping up with technological trends, and a ton of other more management friendly phrases. I /. at work, but I do it with work in mind, so it is work (and I do it at home as well, so I wind up working after hours by doing the same thing, such as right now). I can say (with good reason) that the article on Simulating Network Latency is *very* relevant to work as a systme administrator. Just remember you're working, and don't send links to /. atricles that are way out of scope or send links to posts *you* make. The discussion may be interesting to your boss, and you may get kudos for reading /.
The SCO web version is a written version of a live speech. I don't know many people who write swearing into their speeches. They put it in when they feel like it. I hardly cal about 4 swear words laced with obscenities, but I'm a Nevy brat, so my swearing standards are on the more liberal side.
Why I'm responding to a troll is beyond me, but I'll point out 2 reasons why even the trolls should RTFA.
According to SCO's own release and the review, a maximum of 8 processors are supported, not "scaling to hundreds of CPUs" as the parent states. Also, the review actually said more about SCO's products than I've ever gotten from SCO themselves, even back in '95 when I was looking for a UNIX for Intel (I chose Linux mainly because I couldn't find enough info on SCO, and the BSD documentation was something I wasn't able to make sense out of at the time). Admin GUIs are not something I expected from SCO, but apparently they're there. Their clustering technology is intriguing, and is another thing I didn't know they were even capable of.
If for no other reason than to "know your enemy" a good "technical" review of their product speaks more than any press on either sides of the lawsuits can for the company in the long run.
For those that must know, I run a number of servers, mostly Red hat ES 3.0 servers (including a 3 tier LVS cluster), with some Win 2k/2003 mixed in, and am writing this from a Powerbook running OS X. It's glad to know that is doesn't sound like SCO has made any jumps that would make me consider their product for work, so I need not fear the dark side.
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You obviously have no knowledge what so ever about CAVEs or you would know that this Ask /. has at least done some homework. Enough to know that there are competing libraries for use in a CAVE, and that there are strengths and weaknesses to them. While /. may not the best place to ask for opinions on a CAVE, I can't think (or find even after some effort) of a better place to ask. There is no CAVE newsgroup or mailing list to Google (which was actually a suprise, but in some ways not a suprise from the politics of CAVEs that I've heard about). Slashdot at least has a chance of finding some with experience, and it sure beats asking K5 in that regard!
Basically, if you don't know anything about the subject being asked, don't assume anyone else does either. WorthlessManatee has done more homework that this troll. If you don't have anything to add, there is no need to insult the questioner.
To add actually add to the topic, I have met some of the programmers who have worked on DIVERSE (there is a CAVE across the hall at work), and they seem a smart bunch, but I haven't actually been in a CAVE since before DIVERSE was a pilot project, so I can't say if the libraries are good or not.
Warranty != MTBF. Nor does it guarantee uptime. The newest and cheapest cars in America always start with the longest warranties. That doesn't mean they're going to more reliable than any other vehicle. They want to add value in your mind, but not effect the actual value of the product. Few car owners keep their cars for 10 years/10k miles, and few servers are still production for 5 years, and I don't want to have my RAID degrated for the time it takes to get a factory replacement if at all possible.
And yes, I can get a 486 with a 120MB drive going as a server, but the OP didn't ask what someone on slashdot *can* do, but to hear suggestions based on experience. I would never recommend a 486 as a server, but if the local school/non-profit/cheap bastard has that, and can only go with that, then I wouldn't be asking about new hardware when I do it. I'd be digging for 30 pin SIMS and an ISA network card (I know I had one in the basement somewhere, damn it!).
Our 1 SATA drive we have in our shop has been replaced. That's a sample size of 1, take it for what you paid for it - nothing (or pennies if you subscribe).
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As Tim Bray has pointed out, the RSS discussion has ended by rule of Godwin's Law. Dave was the first to bring up the Soup Nazi, and so he has therefore lost.
As others have mentioned, you can use the System install disk to change your root password (which may be what was done to you). At the first splash screen, look in the menu bar to select the pasword reset utility.
Also, if you'd like to look around, you can boot into single user mode using command-s when booting. once you see the command prompt, just go nuts.
Another option is to boot off of another drive with the OS on it. Target disk mode is very handy for this. you can do it with 2 desktops, or one laptop and one desktop. An external drive is possible. Also, you can find ways to make a bootable OS X CD to work from w/o working from the original drive if you can get to another Mac to build the CD on.
I'll second that and add another comment. If you are someone with a clue working tech support help lines (esp. Tier 1), you'd be looking for another job. That's why they call these entry level positions! I don't know of anyone who goes into computers hoping to work at a call center. My dream is to take calls all day from lUsers! Same deal with floor sales people. (I've done both in an effort to get started, and am now doing neither, thankfully. Every once in a while is OK, but too much raises your blood pressure.) Those I know with no clue tended to stay longer at these jobs than those with a clue. Would you want these people in a position with actual technical responsibility? That's why they hang out until they can graduate to becoming a PHB.
This makes me wonder if there is a Open Source, cross platform MMO, preferably with a decent userbase. I'm sure I've heard of one existing, but when I looked at it, there didn't appear to be enough users to sustain it.
Heck, EOL titles like this should have the source released, at least for the executables (ala Quake, Quake II...) so that players who are inclined and capable can fix them. It's not like they don't make most of their money off of the subscriptions, and they don't necessarially need to open source that part of the program. They'll still make money off of the addicts.
For that matter, why not make all MMOs this way? Would there be a cheating issue? I've never coded a decent sized project, much less a game or network code, so I'd have no idea if open source would help or not.
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*Theoretically* you can use the above suggestions to upgrade via yum or apt. I'd suggest using the boot.iso to use anaconda to install over the network, since it is supported. I haven't done any of these though, so YMMV.
Patches! RH 8/9 is past EOL and is not patched by redhat. Fedora Leagcy is working on patching these system, but where I have nothing holding me back (damn legacy apps), I've switched to a newer release.
I won't compare other distros, but FC has been as solid as RedHat, including my install of RHES I use as a workstation to develop for the servers I run. I find RHES too limiting, and prefer to work on my FC installs. Been great for the 3 machines I have it on. Desktop, Notebook and one Server (my home server runs FC, work used RHES). Server is still running FC 1. Desktop and notebook have had the FC 2 tests since the beginning. No crashes, no problems with my hardware, etc.
Opening the official .torrent and pointing it to the renamed directory, checks the files out just fine. Given the reliability of the leaked torrent's tracker, I wouldn't be suprised if some didn't get the complete files before it went to crap. You should (theoretically) be able to do the same rename of the directory with corrupted / incomplete downloads of the leaked torrent and join the official stream, and BT should just pick up where the file is messed up and continue from there. Sure beats starting from scratch.
.edu pipe.
I d/l the leak with the intention of joining the official stream when it went up, since I've got a server that is a seed with a good sized
The md5 sums match the "leaked" torrent, so if you have that, there is no need to re-download even to join the official torrent by getting the .torrent and renaming your directory appropriately.
I may biting at what appears to be an AC troll, and the thread is off topic, but I've wanted some answers to this, so I'm asking.
While I pay (still paying the student loans) to learn things, I do not believe in paying for what I do know know the purpose of. This analogy even holds as the argument of paying for the material is included. I'm still paying for college after all.
College learning works as an analogy here, even to the point of the first year med student to heart surgeon, based on the arguments I've heard from Scientologists. My issues revole around these concepts though. A prospective first year med student, while they are not qualified to perform surgery, at least is capable of looking at the course plan to be taught in the school they are looking at attending. Let's see, Intro Anatomy is in the first year, while Advance Ventricular Disease is taught 3rd year. (I'm not even close to a med student). You don't have to understand 3rd year courses to look at the basics, descriptions and plan before entering medical school. Showing me to cut into someone is dangerous, but knowing that I will be able to do this in the future is important. Each year is costs $xxx,xxx in tuition, and estimated to cose $x,xxx in books, etc. But in the end, assuming I complete the program, the courses will lead to a qualification in heart surgery. These concepts can be learned before you spend a single dollar. I shopped for my undergraduate college and program in this manner.
So, given this, why does it not seem possible to find such materials on the plan of study in the CoS withouth looking at "leaked documents"? Religion arguments aside, CoS is based on learning. I want to know what I would learn, and have some idea of what it will cost me to learn it before I enroll.
Please, members of the CoS or possibly ex-members only respond (unless you have a link to an appropriate site. Not Clambake! I know that one, and many others. I've seen Fishman, etc.)
I'm definitely for buying the DVD when it comes out (and I agree from the desciption they will put one out - it'd be a damn shame not too). I just don't want to wait, and I'll take a crap bootleg now to hold me over until the real thing is produced. It's not my fault I couldn't afford to go to E3 for the concert. This would have made a great Pay-per-View. Better than profrssional wrestling, that's for sure.
Did they let anyone bootleg the concert? Are they going to release a CD? I want my Uematsu!
Aside from X-2 (which felt more like the pre-VII days than anything), none of the FFs have really been a sequel. They have similar production teams, but the only thing that has been connected between them have been things like Cid. The stories are new and unrelated, though they follow a format that many RPGs follow. I still find a new plot line twist there to keep it from being "just another FF". I've yet to find one that wasn't new enough to make it worth playing as an individual game.
The "FF" moniker really tells you who is working on the game, not that it's a sequel. If "FF" was spun off as it's own company, say a "wholely owned subsidary of SquareEnix" then they could probably name the titles something different and just call the company Final Fantasy Productions. The most wouldn't claim it's a collection of sequels.
I currently have 2 torrents open on a development server here at work. Fedora Core 2 Test 3 (we're not even talking release software) has from this machine alone, uploaded 199GB. I also have Knoppix 3.4 English with 48BG.
Sounds like someone is using it for good use. You can probably look that the individual torrents page for FC2T3 and Knoppixv3.4_EN and see with just these two examples.
It's a distance learning course, or else I'm sure the professor would have done this. It would be a bit rude to make the students buy the DVD just so they can discuss a few minutes of it. That is what fair use in education is supposed to be about.