If you'd bothered to read the article you'd have noticed it isn't only mp3.
It can also play WMA files!
( pause for laughter )
Seriously, though, if it can play two formats it can probably be flash-upgraded to do others, I'd imagine.
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They should make one with a quarter slot and a bill-scanner: Drop in a quarter to play the song, plus a $5bill in the slot for the RIAA's cut.
The question today is: Will peer-to-peer be a part of that process? Will you join us in a legitimate market? She uses the word "legitimate" repeatedly in her speech, almost as if it's a concept at odds with the conference. She's essentially hinting that the current p2p busineses themselves are somehow ilegitimate.
Will you protect the incentive to create? Will you provide the same respect for artists' creations that you deserve for your own? Seeing as how most developers at the conference are giving their creations away, it's ironic that 'the same respect' (for the musical artists work) is all she's asking for. These developers' works are largly created without the boatloads-of-cash-incentive apparently required for other some 'artists' to create.
Ms. Rosen seems to be under the mistaken impression that people won't make music unless they want their record to get platinum-certified by the RIAA.
The multiple exciting applications for P toP that are being discussed over these few days
show the limitless potential of the technology in multiple ways.
Above, Hilary likes p2p so much that in just one sentence she uses the words multiple, exciting, limitless, potential and multiple (once more for good measure) to praise it. Yet just a few lines later she's feels it's relavent to say "The fact that it is also used as a transmitter of child pornography has not gone unnoticed by many federal and law enforcement authorities.". This makes as much sense as me saying "In addition to Anthrax, the U.S. Postal service also has been known to carry packages containing child porn!". Hilary, every medium which could possibly have porn transmitted over has had porn transmitted over it. Why would you specifically bring up child-porn if not to further tarnish p2p's image?
The truth is, since all record companies do with their profits is keep people employed to invest in new music, this is about artists as much as anyone.
Especially struggling artists. Is that it? Is that what record companies do with the incredibly large chunk that they gobble up from the $15.95 per CD? They invest in struggling artists? Record companies are owned by large corporations (Think AOL-Time-Warner might own Warner Music? The Warner Music who owns Rhino Music and Elektra Records? Even lovable Trent Reznor's label Nothing Records is actually Interscope, who in turn is actually Sony.), and the music profits go to further the same interests as as any corporate profits do. Interests like campaign contributions to George W. Bush, who's Drug Czar nominee supports jailtime for doctors who recomend medical marijuna. (yes, I know thats a long stretch but the point is that record company profits are being invested in much more than starving artists.) What it comes down to, is Corporate America's interests are not the interests of artists! How many artists want pot-perscribing doctors put in jail? Think Jerry Garcia wants AOL-Time-Warner making money everytime someone buys one of his CD's? I doubt it.
It' s also easy to say a millionaire rock star isn' t going to be hurt by stealing a recording. In my view, that isn' t really the point -- stealing from a successful person is just as wrong as stealing from a struggling one. But as long as you' re looking for whom piracy really hurts, ask the guitarist in the coffee shop, or the group scratching out a living touring in a beat-up van. Dreams are made for fans and artists alike with new artists selling their music for the first time. I'm sure the coffee-shop-playing guitarists I know would love to find their music was being traded on p2p services. That would mean people all over the world had access to it! Not just people in the coffee shop! How is this bad again? Would people accross the world have bought his CD otherwise? Has he suffered a loss as a result of his music being available to millions instead of hundreds? Are his interests the same as AOL-Time-Warner? Is Hilary Rosen smoking crack?
For an insight into public opinion regarding your recent speech, I'd sugest you point your microsoft web browsing software to this website. "Slashdot" has been kind enough to provide a public fourm where you can read tech-savy people's honest opinions of you. You might be surprised at what you find!
Do you also predict Windows XP itself will be a market failure?
[opinion] Though I won't use it myself, I predict both will be successfull simply because they are some of Microsoft's flagship products and will be 'recomended' (forced upon) many companies who have put all their eggs in the Microsoft basket. [/opinion]
Risking your life the US is NOBLE. In a time such as we are in now, I find your post totally inappropriate.
I'm honestly unsure if that was a sarcastic remark. Ideas?
(my first comment is now at zero for being flamebait, so this will all appear a little offtopic.
Ah, how I love the smell of burning karma in the morning...;-)
Seeing as how democracy in the U.S. is quite broken, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the UK's version operates slightly better. That still doesn't mean people shouldn't have a right to privacy!
Risking my life for a foreign country's interests makes even less sense than risking my life for U.S. interests!
And I don't want to be in the army that surrenders to everyone!
It's not the cameras that you need to be afraid of, it's how they are used. As far as I can see they have had a good effect on reducing crime in many UK crimespots, without any infringements on anyones personal freedom (unless you're completely paranoid, in which case you'd better stay indoors with the lights out and your lead helmet on).
So, you say cameras by themself aren't bad? Do you consider face recognition and liscenseplate recognition software bad? On foot or in the car, they will soon be able to tell exactly where you are in London. (They already have the technology, it just isn't fully implemented over the whole city yet)
American officials are drooling over this stuff; it'll only be a matter of time before we're under a simmilar microscope.
It doesn't take a lead-helmet-wearing-paranoid to see that it's bad to have a computer database that knows where everyone is all the time. Do you really trust your government that much?
Supposedly all paintballs available today are biodegradble and 100% non-toxic.
But I heard a story from a guy at the local field who said his dog ate a bunch of 32Degrees-brand paint and got real real sick. and the vet's toxcicity report showed anti-freeze in the dogs stomach. This is very very bad since pouring anti-freeze all over the woods is considered bad form.
Also, paint isn't supposed to stain your clothes but many brands (Diablo's Hellfire, most notably) do.
The Custom 98 is a good starter gun, but I think the linux metaphor should be reserved for an Autococker. Finely tunable, many 'distros' (there are many many companies making custom cockers now), and very very accurate.
OK, since my post was from a marginally-educated guess standpoint and you sound like you've actually had experience with the topic at hand, I guess I stand corrected.
But just this once!
Don't think I'll back down so easy next time! 8-)
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Marketing people write their paychecks...
Interesting...
So does the payroll department do the marketing then?
I'm confused. So what if they have ads? The code is GPL'd! How hard is it going to be to recompile it without the ads?
I think it was a joke, sort of along the lines of "France would be great if it weren't for all the French people". Get it?
If you'd bothered to read the article you'd have noticed it isn't only mp3.
It can also play WMA files!
( pause for laughter )
Seriously, though, if it can play two formats it can probably be flash-upgraded to do others, I'd imagine.
They should make one with a quarter slot and a bill-scanner: Drop in a quarter to play the song, plus a $5bill in the slot for the RIAA's cut.
LimeWire is an excellent gnutella client that I've used under MacOS 9 and Win2k. I've heard it works quite well in linux and MacOS X as well.
It's network hogs like this that...... bog down ISPs and cause people to "Dump broadband, and dig out their modem".
I'm sorry my internet usage is so very less worthy than yours.
The question today is: Will peer-to-peer be a part of that process? Will you join us in a legitimate market?
She uses the word "legitimate" repeatedly in her speech, almost as if it's a concept at odds with the conference. She's essentially hinting that the current p2p busineses themselves are somehow ilegitimate.
Will you protect the incentive to create? Will you provide the same respect for artists' creations that you deserve for your own?
Seeing as how most developers at the conference are giving their creations away, it's ironic that 'the same respect' (for the musical artists work) is all she's asking for. These developers' works are largly created without the boatloads-of-cash-incentive apparently required for other some 'artists' to create.
Ms. Rosen seems to be under the mistaken impression that people won't make music unless they want their record to get platinum-certified by the RIAA.
The multiple exciting applications for P toP that are being discussed over these few days
show the limitless potential of the technology in multiple ways.
Above, Hilary likes p2p so much that in just one sentence she uses the words multiple, exciting, limitless, potential and multiple (once more for good measure) to praise it. Yet just a few lines later she's feels it's relavent to say "The fact that it is also used as a transmitter of child pornography has not gone unnoticed by many federal and law enforcement authorities.". This makes as much sense as me saying "In addition to Anthrax, the U.S. Postal service also has been known to carry packages containing child porn!". Hilary, every medium which could possibly have porn transmitted over has had porn transmitted over it. Why would you specifically bring up child-porn if not to further tarnish p2p's image?
The truth is, since all record companies do with their profits is keep people employed to invest in new music, this is about artists as much as anyone.
Especially struggling artists.
Is that it? Is that what record companies do with the incredibly large chunk that they gobble up from the $15.95 per CD? They invest in struggling artists? Record companies are owned by large corporations (Think AOL-Time-Warner might own Warner Music? The Warner Music who owns Rhino Music and Elektra Records? Even lovable Trent Reznor's label Nothing Records is actually Interscope, who in turn is actually Sony.), and the music profits go to further the same interests as as any corporate profits do. Interests like campaign contributions to George W. Bush, who's Drug Czar nominee supports jailtime for doctors who recomend medical marijuna. (yes, I know thats a long stretch but the point is that record company profits are being invested in much more than starving artists.) What it comes down to, is Corporate America's interests are not the interests of artists! How many artists want pot-perscribing doctors put in jail? Think Jerry Garcia wants AOL-Time-Warner making money everytime someone buys one of his CD's? I doubt it.
It' s also easy to say a millionaire rock star isn' t going to be hurt by stealing a recording. In my view, that isn' t really the point -- stealing from a successful person is just as wrong as stealing from a struggling one. But as long as you' re looking for whom piracy really hurts, ask the guitarist in the coffee shop, or the group scratching out a living touring in a beat-up van. Dreams are made for fans and artists alike with new artists selling their music for the first time.
I'm sure the coffee-shop-playing guitarists I know would love to find their music was being traded on p2p services. That would mean people all over the world had access to it! Not just people in the coffee shop! How is this bad again? Would people accross the world have bought his CD otherwise? Has he suffered a loss as a result of his music being available to millions instead of hundreds? Are his interests the same as AOL-Time-Warner? Is Hilary Rosen smoking crack?
Common Sense != RIAA
Dear Ms. Rosen,
For an insight into public opinion regarding your recent speech, I'd sugest you point your microsoft web browsing software to this website. "Slashdot" has been kind enough to provide a public fourm where you can read tech-savy people's honest opinions of you. You might be surprised at what you find!
-Kilgore T.
Of course, the problem with Napster was that the stuff got too freely distributed, cutting out the whole "pay the artist for thier work" step.
REAL ARTISTS HAVE DAY JOBS
"It's mission-critical."
While email servers may be critical to their Winnebago mission, the mission itself is sub-citical to me.
Do you also predict Windows XP itself will be a market failure?
[opinion] Though I won't use it myself, I predict both will be successfull simply because they are some of Microsoft's flagship products and will be 'recomended' (forced upon) many companies who have put all their eggs in the Microsoft basket. [/opinion]
Risking your life the US is NOBLE. In a time such as we are in now, I find your post totally inappropriate.
;-)
I'm honestly unsure if that was a sarcastic remark. Ideas?
(my first comment is now at zero for being flamebait, so this will all appear a little offtopic.
Ah, how I love the smell of burning karma in the morning...
Seeing as how democracy in the U.S. is quite broken, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the UK's version operates slightly better. That still doesn't mean people shouldn't have a right to privacy!
Actually, most non-programmers DON'T think it's hot stuff; and most good programmers DO.
You, too, should probably be looking for a new occupation...
I apoligize for not being awake yet.
I meant you could do that if you had degrees in CS and Architecture.
Or you could make some of the coolest quake levels ever!
Risking my life for a foreign country's interests makes even less sense than risking my life for U.S. interests!
And I don't want to be in the army that surrenders to everyone!
It's not the cameras that you need to be afraid of, it's how they are used. As far as I can see they have had a good effect on reducing crime in many UK crimespots, without any infringements on anyones personal freedom (unless you're completely paranoid, in which case you'd better stay indoors with the lights out and your lead helmet on).
So, you say cameras by themself aren't bad? Do you consider face recognition and liscenseplate recognition software bad? On foot or in the car, they will soon be able to tell exactly where you are in London. (They already have the technology, it just isn't fully implemented over the whole city yet)
American officials are drooling over this stuff; it'll only be a matter of time before we're under a simmilar microscope.
It doesn't take a lead-helmet-wearing-paranoid to see that it's bad to have a computer database that knows where everyone is all the time. Do you really trust your government that much?
The two factions don't mix well at all (rec players usually dislike tournament players etc)
How many tournament players aren't rec players too? Don't most teams practice at their local field with rec players? Thats what I've seen anyway...
Supposedly all paintballs available today are biodegradble and 100% non-toxic.
But I heard a story from a guy at the local field who said his dog ate a bunch of 32Degrees-brand paint and got real real sick. and the vet's toxcicity report showed anti-freeze in the dogs stomach. This is very very bad since pouring anti-freeze all over the woods is considered bad form.
Also, paint isn't supposed to stain your clothes but many brands (Diablo's Hellfire, most notably) do.
I've never played a field that would allow an ATV either...
I think this is suited big scenaio games, not standard rec ball.
The Custom 98 is a good starter gun, but I think the linux metaphor should be reserved for an Autococker. Finely tunable, many 'distros' (there are many many companies making custom cockers now), and very very accurate.
(Brass Eagle guns are MS Windows, naturally)
OK, since my post was from a marginally-educated guess standpoint and you sound like you've actually had experience with the topic at hand, I guess I stand corrected.
But just this once!
Don't think I'll back down so easy next time! 8-)
Personally I can't stand their keyboard and mouse
;-)
Thats a weak criticism of apple hardware, considering that almost any USB mouse or keyboard will work with any recent mac.
Price is a better argument, but apple has taken strides there and even has a $799 offering now (and you can use whatever input devices you want).
The MacOS is my reason for using apple hardware though
(i use a mac at the office, doing web and photoshop drivel)