For the most part, the target would likely be Enterprise customers and not Joe Average
In the Sun article, there is a mention of CIOs wanting a more cost-effective, lower TCO, and higher security desktop, etc, etc. But, duh thats like saying that a CEO wants higher profits. What does an "Enterprise" customer want out of a desktop OS? I'd say:
It must work, and continue to work even if you patch the system
It has to work with exsisting document/file formats
It of course must be secure, cost-effective, etc
It must have centralized authentication/authorization
It must have an "Enterprise" level of installation. This is a biggy. Some kind of system where an updatable image can be maintained and trivially installed onto a new machine.
I'd like to see some kind of centralized preferences/custom settings that can follow you from machine to machine and survive an upgrade, etc.
It must be seamlessly upgradable.
It must have basic stuff that has been on other OSes like Drag and Drop that makes sense and works. It must have cut-n-paste that works. It must have a centralized and working printing system, etc. (The stuff that the Xerox star had in the late 70s and early 80s.)
Plus many more things that I can't think of offhand right now because I'm pretty hungover, but this isn't rocket science. Can't there be some kind of user and maintainer (sysadmin, techie, etc) survey of what people really want?
I'm personally sick of the "Linux on the desktop" saga. I've used it for years, but my uses are atypical because I use it to admin other UNIXy machines and only run a browser, pdf viewer, terminal windows and command line apps, and occasionally open office when some windows user sends me an office attachment. Why can't there be more action instead of talk on this topic? If I see another windows knockoff sluffed off as a "revolutionary" desktop system that has fewer than the above listed requirements, and is basically much worse than windows already, then I'll go postal. The desire/need is there for a working desktop system. There is _not_ a system that is near ideal yet. The closest that we have is windows. Windows has _many_ issues, but its no accident that it is dominant, and it will be no accident when its superceeded.
Easy solution, just like the "copy protected" CDs.
DEMAND YOUR MONEY BACK.
I havn't been to a movie since the 2nd LOTR, so I havn't seen these new dots, but I did get my money back from a blockbuster rental because the DVD would not let me skip the ads/trailers or whatever. Plus, I havn't rented a DVD that did that since then either.
The problem with Sun, SGI, and the hundreds of thousands of established companies...
SGI is Fortune's number 34 best place to work for, 876 on Fortune's top 1000 companies, sun is 77 and 155 respectively, which means that the "hundreds of thousands" that you mention are more than likely much below those rankings. I don't see where a comparison can be made.
Instead of differentiating themselves, innovating, and finding other business strategies, most small retailers just stick to their existing sales/strategies, eventually going out of business
Sun seems to be displaying the same behavior as a small retail shop being outed by a new supercenter. Instead of trying to innovate, Sun is holding on to its existing business model for dear life. The only difference in this scenario, is that the supercenter is Linux on commodity hardware.
OK, linux on commodity hardware. What commodity hardware is that? Dell? HP? Compaq (now HP)? Gateway? How have those once mom&pop PC shops changed in the past 10 years or so? What innovations have they provided? (HP has with the Itanium, but you get my point).
Now, for my $.02 advice for Sun.
Embrace and extend:) Embrace Linux, and extend their product line. I think that Sun should be a complete end to end hardware/software provider from the desktop up to their 15k machines and blade servers. People seem to like linux (I do!) and want to use it on the desktop. How is that going to happen? With KDE and Gnome? Well, KDE and Gnome are here and people are still asking about when Linux is going to be on the desktop. Obviously, those aren't the answer. What about partnering with Apple and standardizing their desktop with OSX? Or creating their own kickass desktop system to sit ontop of Linux and Solaris. Seamless interoperability of linux api's on solaris would be very nice (I hate to say this, but much like SCO's Linux personality stuff, scary). But isn't this what people want?
Sun is awsome in their ability to standardize their API's and ABI's, and its nice for their customers to be able to run systems for _years_ without much dicking around. Hell, I can't even apply a service pack to my Windows XP partition on my laptop and have it work after that. Sun has great (albeit expensive) service/maintence contracts. They make rock solid hardware. Their a known name. Sun does well what sun does, its just that in the dotcom crash, and a little slower economy, that their products are not in as high of a demand. But I believe that there is a big demand for a full, rock solid product line of equipment, not just the mid to high end server market.
by the fact that your tax dollars (if you live in the US) are going to create a game which simulates basic training? it's one thing if a private company wants to do it, but don't do it with my money!
And what dent would not spending money on this have on the 399.1 billion dollar military budget?
As for those people who will comment that they get their concert bootlegs as FLAC or SHNs, and they don't want to change them? Why not? MP3s are so small? You'll be able to carry 2-3 times as many concerts with you.
I currently have about 400Gigs of flac/shn's and that is growing. I also have a very highspeed connection at work. I also have a car. I also have a nice home stereo.
With a device like this, I can store my new flacs, listen to them on my way home from work, transfer them to my home PC/reencode them to ogg and I would be a happy camper.
The SCO page says its sponsered by Microlite, which appears to be backup solutions for SCO products (and Linux).
Doesn't everyone remember that HP was the main sponser of the SCO 2003 forum in Las Vegas, but they backed out because of the SCO linux licensing. You can read about it here.
HP is very linux friendly. Look at their linux page. They support other distributions besides RedHat even like Debian and Suse and possibly others. They have linux drivers for winmodems on some of their PCs. On their Itaniums, 3 OSes are supported HPUX, Linux, and Windows.
They may be a mostly M$ shop, but they do have interests in other OSes. In fact, HP is the vendor with the most systems on the top500 list, and not one of those machines runs windows...
And then I read this article, and I think that maybe, after all, it doesn't matter what a competent, professional engineer says or does. I'm just saddened that NASA, an institution I loved growing up, did not change at all after Challenger. I wish I knew the answer.
Yes, it does matter what a professional engineer says or does. Accidents are called that for a reason. Otherwise, there would be some big lawsuit at hand.
Everytime in my life a major accident kind of thing happened, I can go back and trace many, many things that could have "prevented" the accident. One example that was fairly recent was an AC going out in my machine room. I knew the AC sounded funny, so I had a work order in place to look at it. The kind of maintence we had on the AC was not "critical", so it would take up to 30 days to look at it. Also, when the AC did finally fail, the power blinked off right before. This caused some alarms/false alarms with the AC monitoring ppl, and they did not notice that the AC had failed. Any one thing, putting the maintence level to critical or the power not blinking off, would have been sufficient to prevent the failure.
This was a pretty simple example, you can imagine the steps involved in something more complicated like a mission to outer space.
NASA still has PR problems, because what they did for 20 years was pretty much old hat (in the public's eye). Keep in mind that _most_ of NASA's budget is for the 1st A, meaning aeronautics and not the S.
Also keep in mind, that NASA's budget is not that big. Compared to the military at over 100B a year, NASA has only 20B, which is about the same as the DEA. I see the DEA as a more unsuccessful government agency than NASA anyday.
What we really need is a real president to guide this country. Somebody like Kennedy who was able to get the whole country behind the space race. Or maybe we need a new enemy to be in a race with. I dunno. The war on terrorism is not a good one for moral. At least when we hated the commies, we felt better about ourselves because we were "free". "Winning" the war on terrorism only means maintaining status quo, and that is not the best at this time.
Also, some kind of printed emails can be found in pdf format at this page at NASA. They say something to the effect like:
Engineer: Hey should we, err, take a picture with a DOD satellite or something? That debris looked a little nasty on the takeoff.
PHB: Nah, its OK.
This report was released one month ago today, so its kinda old news. I was floored the 1st time I read it. Look around page 150 or so of the whole document.
With this interview and IBM's most recent counterclaim, SCO fell about 20 percent. But I have a feeling they will bounce back.
I would be very suprised if SCO does not have some big press release on Mon or Tue and then the stock will go up a little. They have been pretty good at this in the past.
Its interesting that IBM is getting behind the GPL, but I do think that this suit is just a press release, and I would be very supprised if it ever made it to court. If it were the case that Linux has SCO IP in the kernel, then IBM's case would have no merit. Also, I do not see where SCO is even in violation of the GPL. IBM says:
SCO violated the general Public License under which Linux is distributed. The GPL requires Linux distributors to permit customers to freely copy the software.
SCO's binary runtime license says nothing about source code nor distribution.
I ususally agree with the stupid user argument (I'm a UNIX sysadmin:), but in both cases you mention the driver is not thrown from the vehicle. Also, if you were going down the street, you were half way to your destination, and you got the low battery light, would you just hop off or keep going until it died? I know what I would do.
Hmm, lets see. Fortran will let you a) use a variable without declaring it, b) there is no runtime checks for the # of arguments going to a routine, and c) lets you abuse storage sizes in common blocks.
I'm not sure exactly what you think "programming tricks" are, but these can be pretty nasty at times. Especially, a and b.
I use the Intel compiler for one project that I work on for the ia32 and ia64 platforms. The newer ones 7.1 are the best. I've had many miscompiled applications with full optimization with earlier releases. The C/C++ compilers from Intel are excellent too. Its not uncommon for me to recompile something that was compiled with gcc and get a 2x speedup.
In my experience, the best compilers for a given platform are made by the same people that make the processors. Sun -> Sun compiler, Intel -> Intel compiler, Alpha -> Compaq(HP) compiler, etc.
I hate to say this, but GNU f77 is a joke. My./configure scripts will bail if you only have that compiler because it does not either compile the app, or produces junk (I don't remember which).
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From the mind-boggling link:
Original UNIX history chart created by Eric Levenez. Copyright (C) 1996-2003, Eric Levenez. January 2, 2003. Used with permission.
I've seen this tree before, printed it out and put it on my office walls (yeah, its that big:). Why did Eric give SCO permission? I thought he actually liked UNIX.
I've read the "license", and it does not cover distribution of any kind (nor source code, etc). It is entirely a "binary runtime" license which you must pay _per processor_ period.
It must of been the guy on the grassy noll who bought the license.
Other people "get it". If you go to UVA, you might want to talk with Dr. McCalpin, and take a look at the stream memory benchmark.
Memory bandwidth is a bottleneck, not the biggest. It depends on the application. Sometimes an app is CPU bound, disk bound, network bound, or memory bound (or graphics card bound if 130FPS is too slow for your eyes). Also, chip-to-chip interconnects will not change the memory bandidth issue, because if the data does not fit on the chips or thier cache, then its going in memory.
Also, this is for scaling. Think beowulf. For those machines, the data must go from the cpu -> memory -> network interface -> switch -> network interface -> memory -> cpu. Yes, bandiwidth is an issue, but there is also latency, which would be very low with these kinds of chips.
A side note, I work with a guy that soldered chips together like this which had native parallel processing instructions about 20 years ago.
you are. Everyone is saying that you can throw linux/other free os here on a cheap box, but that does not have any client software or consise documentation. From the article:
You can back up any folder with a simple mouse click, and all backup is fully automatic.
Besides simple backup, the client software handles version control (making sure the backed-up file is the most recent version), and provides access to other users to whom the files' owner has given permission.
I think it's too soon to feature a product like this, as the people aren't ready and the entreprise can surely spend the money more wisely.
I don't. Havn't you seen these cablemodem/dsl firewall router thingys? They even have them for modems as well. I expect to see many more appliances like this in the future. One reason most people dread upgrading thier computers is because of transfering thier data. If they get used to putting thier data on something like this, then this would be a non issue.
For a normal user, linux is not too much different than any other UNIX like system. One book that I found to be very helpful when I was UNIX for the impatient. There were many things I liked about this book. It covered both emacs and vi pretty extensively. It covered programming in awk, although awk is pretty much superceeded by perl. It also covered many of the small text processing utilities like cut, grep, etc.
Another good book for users might be the Oreily Linux in a nutshell book. I'm not usually a fan of the nutshell books, but this one seems to cover many of the same topics that the impatient book covers.
A cheap PC has enough RAM to store the entire contents of the Library of Congress many times over.
From http://www.loc.gov/about/:
It is also the largest library in the world, with more than 126 million items on approximately 530 miles of bookshelves. The collections include nearly 19 million books, 2.6 million recordings, 12 million photographs, 4.8 million maps, and 56 million manuscripts.
If there is about a meg of info in each of the 19 million books,....
To be honest, I think the music industry would be better off if people who only record albums for the money were to stop. /me bitchslaps young ignorant neohippy
OK, I feel better now. So I shouln't get paid for programming or system administration. Your professors should be doing all of their efforts for the sake of pure education and research while in thier spare time they hunt and fish while their wives gathers food from the forest.
To correctly quote the often misquoted passage from the Bible:
The love of money is the root of all evil.
Maybe not the backstreet boys, but many musicians love music 1st and foremost. I think its BS that the RIAA feeds these guys with the dreams that for making an album every 12 to 18 months with a couple of OK tracks on it can sustain a lifelong supply of plenty of cash.
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In the Sun article, there is a mention of CIOs wanting a more cost-effective, lower TCO, and higher security desktop, etc, etc. But, duh thats like saying that a CEO wants higher profits. What does an "Enterprise" customer want out of a desktop OS? I'd say:
- It must work, and continue to work even if you patch the system
- It has to work with exsisting document/file formats
- It of course must be secure, cost-effective, etc
- It must have centralized authentication/authorization
- It must have an "Enterprise" level of installation. This is a biggy. Some kind of system where an updatable image can be maintained and trivially installed onto a new machine.
- I'd like to see some kind of centralized preferences/custom settings that can follow you from machine to machine and survive an upgrade, etc.
- It must be seamlessly upgradable.
- It must have basic stuff that has been on other OSes like Drag and Drop that makes sense and works. It must have cut-n-paste that works. It must have a centralized and working printing system, etc. (The stuff that the Xerox star had in the late 70s and early 80s.)
Plus many more things that I can't think of offhand right now because I'm pretty hungover, but this isn't rocket science. Can't there be some kind of user and maintainer (sysadmin, techie, etc) survey of what people really want?I'm personally sick of the "Linux on the desktop" saga. I've used it for years, but my uses are atypical because I use it to admin other UNIXy machines and only run a browser, pdf viewer, terminal windows and command line apps, and occasionally open office when some windows user sends me an office attachment. Why can't there be more action instead of talk on this topic? If I see another windows knockoff sluffed off as a "revolutionary" desktop system that has fewer than the above listed requirements, and is basically much worse than windows already, then I'll go postal. The desire/need is there for a working desktop system. There is _not_ a system that is near ideal yet. The closest that we have is windows. Windows has _many_ issues, but its no accident that it is dominant, and it will be no accident when its superceeded.
VERY ANNOYING!
Easy solution, just like the "copy protected" CDs.
DEMAND YOUR MONEY BACK.
I havn't been to a movie since the 2nd LOTR, so I havn't seen these new dots, but I did get my money back from a blockbuster rental because the DVD would not let me skip the ads/trailers or whatever. Plus, I havn't rented a DVD that did that since then either.
'Cause you know they're going to take a page from George Lucas and whore the titles like he did with Star Wars.
Where did you get your DVD box set of Star Wars IV -> VI?
The problem with Sun, SGI, and the hundreds of thousands of established companies...
:) Embrace Linux, and extend their product line. I think that Sun should be a complete end to end hardware/software provider from the desktop up to their 15k machines and blade servers. People seem to like linux (I do!) and want to use it on the desktop. How is that going to happen? With KDE and Gnome? Well, KDE and Gnome are here and people are still asking about when Linux is going to be on the desktop. Obviously, those aren't the answer. What about partnering with Apple and standardizing their desktop with OSX? Or creating their own kickass desktop system to sit ontop of Linux and Solaris. Seamless interoperability of linux api's on solaris would be very nice (I hate to say this, but much like SCO's Linux personality stuff, scary). But isn't this what people want?
SGI is Fortune's number 34 best place to work for, 876 on Fortune's top 1000 companies, sun is 77 and 155 respectively, which means that the "hundreds of thousands" that you mention are more than likely much below those rankings. I don't see where a comparison can be made.
Instead of differentiating themselves, innovating, and finding other business strategies, most small retailers just stick to their existing sales/strategies, eventually going out of business
Sun seems to be displaying the same behavior as a small retail shop being outed by a new supercenter. Instead of trying to innovate, Sun is holding on to its existing business model for dear life. The only difference in this scenario, is that the supercenter is Linux on commodity hardware.
OK, linux on commodity hardware. What commodity hardware is that? Dell? HP? Compaq (now HP)? Gateway? How have those once mom&pop PC shops changed in the past 10 years or so? What innovations have they provided? (HP has with the Itanium, but you get my point).
Now, for my $.02 advice for Sun.
Embrace and extend
Sun is awsome in their ability to standardize their API's and ABI's, and its nice for their customers to be able to run systems for _years_ without much dicking around. Hell, I can't even apply a service pack to my Windows XP partition on my laptop and have it work after that. Sun has great (albeit expensive) service/maintence contracts. They make rock solid hardware. Their a known name. Sun does well what sun does, its just that in the dotcom crash, and a little slower economy, that their products are not in as high of a demand. But I believe that there is a big demand for a full, rock solid product line of equipment, not just the mid to high end server market.
Imagine looking for a person when only knowing their phone number. Today we look through the phonebook one name at a time
Funny, if I only have their number I would look through the phonebook one number at a time.
by the fact that your tax dollars (if you live in the US) are going to create a game which simulates basic training? it's one thing if a private company wants to do it, but don't do it with my money!
And what dent would not spending money on this have on the 399.1 billion dollar military budget?
FLAC?!?!? WTF for?
As for those people who will comment that they get their concert bootlegs as FLAC or SHNs, and they don't want to change them? Why not? MP3s are so small? You'll be able to carry 2-3 times as many concerts with you.
I currently have about 400Gigs of flac/shn's and that is growing. I also have a very highspeed connection at work. I also have a car. I also have a nice home stereo.
With a device like this, I can store my new flacs, listen to them on my way home from work, transfer them to my home PC/reencode them to ogg and I would be a happy camper.
The SCO page says its sponsered by Microlite, which appears to be backup solutions for SCO products (and Linux).
Doesn't everyone remember that HP was the main sponser of the SCO 2003 forum in Las Vegas, but they backed out because of the SCO linux licensing. You can read about it here.
HP is very linux friendly. Look at their linux page. They support other distributions besides RedHat even like Debian and Suse and possibly others. They have linux drivers for winmodems on some of their PCs. On their Itaniums, 3 OSes are supported HPUX, Linux, and Windows.
Plus don't forget that HP Offers Linux Purchasers Indemnification for its customers using Linux on HP hardware.
They may be a mostly M$ shop, but they do have interests in other OSes. In fact, HP is the vendor with the most systems on the top500 list, and not one of those machines runs windows...
And then I read this article, and I think that maybe, after all, it doesn't matter what a competent, professional engineer says or does. I'm just saddened that NASA, an institution I loved growing up, did not change at all after Challenger. I wish I knew the answer.
Yes, it does matter what a professional engineer says or does. Accidents are called that for a reason. Otherwise, there would be some big lawsuit at hand.
Everytime in my life a major accident kind of thing happened, I can go back and trace many, many things that could have "prevented" the accident. One example that was fairly recent was an AC going out in my machine room. I knew the AC sounded funny, so I had a work order in place to look at it. The kind of maintence we had on the AC was not "critical", so it would take up to 30 days to look at it. Also, when the AC did finally fail, the power blinked off right before. This caused some alarms/false alarms with the AC monitoring ppl, and they did not notice that the AC had failed. Any one thing, putting the maintence level to critical or the power not blinking off, would have been sufficient to prevent the failure.
This was a pretty simple example, you can imagine the steps involved in something more complicated like a mission to outer space.
NASA still has PR problems, because what they did for 20 years was pretty much old hat (in the public's eye). Keep in mind that _most_ of NASA's budget is for the 1st A, meaning aeronautics and not the S.
Also keep in mind, that NASA's budget is not that big. Compared to the military at over 100B a year, NASA has only 20B, which is about the same as the DEA. I see the DEA as a more unsuccessful government agency than NASA anyday.
What we really need is a real president to guide this country. Somebody like Kennedy who was able to get the whole country behind the space race. Or maybe we need a new enemy to be in a race with. I dunno. The war on terrorism is not a good one for moral. At least when we hated the commies, we felt better about ourselves because we were "free". "Winning" the war on terrorism only means maintaining status quo, and that is not the best at this time.
Also, some kind of printed emails can be found in pdf format at this page at NASA. They say something to the effect like:
Engineer: Hey should we, err, take a picture with a DOD satellite or something? That debris looked a little nasty on the takeoff.
PHB: Nah, its OK.
This report was released one month ago today, so its kinda old news. I was floored the 1st time I read it. Look around page 150 or so of the whole document.
With this interview and IBM's most recent counterclaim, SCO fell about 20 percent. But I have a feeling they will bounce back.
I would be very suprised if SCO does not have some big press release on Mon or Tue and then the stock will go up a little. They have been pretty good at this in the past.
This press release was 11:48, and look at SCO's stock drop.
Its interesting that IBM is getting behind the GPL, but I do think that this suit is just a press release, and I would be very supprised if it ever made it to court. If it were the case that Linux has SCO IP in the kernel, then IBM's case would have no merit. Also, I do not see where SCO is even in violation of the GPL. IBM says:
SCO violated the general Public License under which Linux is distributed. The GPL requires Linux distributors to permit customers to freely copy the software.
SCO's binary runtime license says nothing about source code nor distribution.
I ususally agree with the stupid user argument (I'm a UNIX sysadmin :), but in both cases you mention the driver is not thrown from the vehicle. Also, if you were going down the street, you were half way to your destination, and you got the low battery light, would you just hop off or keep going until it died? I know what I would do.
somewhat resistant to programming tricks
Hmm, lets see. Fortran will let you a) use a variable without declaring it, b) there is no runtime checks for the # of arguments going to a routine, and c) lets you abuse storage sizes in common blocks.
I'm not sure exactly what you think "programming tricks" are, but these can be pretty nasty at times. Especially, a and b.
I use the Intel compiler for one project that I work on for the ia32 and ia64 platforms. The newer ones 7.1 are the best. I've had many miscompiled applications with full optimization with earlier releases. The C/C++ compilers from Intel are excellent too. Its not uncommon for me to recompile something that was compiled with gcc and get a 2x speedup.
./configure scripts will bail if you only have that compiler because it does not either compile the app, or produces junk (I don't remember which).
The Compaq (HP) fortran compiler is also freely available, and it produces good output as well.
In my experience, the best compilers for a given platform are made by the same people that make the processors. Sun -> Sun compiler, Intel -> Intel compiler, Alpha -> Compaq(HP) compiler, etc.
I hate to say this, but GNU f77 is a joke. My
From the mind-boggling link:
:). Why did Eric give SCO permission? I thought he actually liked UNIX.
Original UNIX history chart created by Eric Levenez. Copyright (C) 1996-2003, Eric Levenez. January 2, 2003. Used with permission.
I've seen this tree before, printed it out and put it on my office walls (yeah, its that big
Security through obscurity is viewed by many as not working, but security throught diversity will work?
I've read the "license", and it does not cover distribution of any kind (nor source code, etc). It is entirely a "binary runtime" license which you must pay _per processor_ period.
It must of been the guy on the grassy noll who bought the license.
By looking around, it seems like SUVs are, in many people's eyes, the right car for every situation.
Regarding C. I like it. I think Larry Wall puts it best:
Other people "get it". If you go to UVA, you might want to talk with Dr. McCalpin, and take a look at the stream memory benchmark.
Memory bandwidth is a bottleneck, not the biggest. It depends on the application. Sometimes an app is CPU bound, disk bound, network bound, or memory bound (or graphics card bound if 130FPS is too slow for your eyes). Also, chip-to-chip interconnects will not change the memory bandidth issue, because if the data does not fit on the chips or thier cache, then its going in memory.
Also, this is for scaling. Think beowulf. For those machines, the data must go from the cpu -> memory -> network interface -> switch -> network interface -> memory -> cpu. Yes, bandiwidth is an issue, but there is also latency, which would be very low with these kinds of chips.
A side note, I work with a guy that soldered chips together like this which had native parallel processing instructions about 20 years ago.
I think it's too soon to feature a product like this, as the people aren't ready and the entreprise can surely spend the money more wisely.
I don't. Havn't you seen these cablemodem/dsl firewall router thingys? They even have them for modems as well. I expect to see many more appliances like this in the future. One reason most people dread upgrading thier computers is because of transfering thier data. If they get used to putting thier data on something like this, then this would be a non issue.
For a normal user, linux is not too much different than any other UNIX like system. One book that I found to be very helpful when I was UNIX for the impatient. There were many things I liked about this book. It covered both emacs and vi pretty extensively. It covered programming in awk, although awk is pretty much superceeded by perl. It also covered many of the small text processing utilities like cut, grep, etc.
Another good book for users might be the Oreily Linux in a nutshell book. I'm not usually a fan of the nutshell books, but this one seems to cover many of the same topics that the impatient book covers.
From http://www.loc.gov/about/:
If there is about a meg of info in each of the 19 million books,
To be honest, I think the music industry would be better off if people who only record albums for the money were to stop. /me bitchslaps young ignorant neohippy
OK, I feel better now. So I shouln't get paid for programming or system administration. Your professors should be doing all of their efforts for the sake of pure education and research while in thier spare time they hunt and fish while their wives gathers food from the forest.
To correctly quote the often misquoted passage from the Bible:
The love of money is the root of all evil.
Maybe not the backstreet boys, but many musicians love music 1st and foremost. I think its BS that the RIAA feeds these guys with the dreams that for making an album every 12 to 18 months with a couple of OK tracks on it can sustain a lifelong supply of plenty of cash.