Yeah, it is pretty simple to work around the differences in most cases (especially if you remove NS4x from the equation). I write my own APIs for this stuff.
The big problem is with browsers like Opera which has a largely braindead javascript/DOM implementation, and stubs for methods that don't actually work. So for instance, document.createElement(whatever) doesn't generate an error - it just doesn't do anything (this is why I treat Opera as Netscape 3 with CSS)! Konqueror also has some bizarre bugs when creating DOM trees on the fly (eg, spans don't report their computedWidth, strange crashes with legal code etc).
The there's the problem of browsers working differently between platforms (anyone who's ever tested code for IE on PC, Mac and Sun hardware will have come across these "challenges";-)
Not if you're using DHTML. Mozilla currently has some severe issues that really should have been fixed a long time ago - for instance, Bug 78497, which prevents images with transparent areas being clipped at all. Since clipping works with opaque images you'd think this wasn't too big a problem to fix, but it's been there for well over a year now (in various other bug #'s) and still isn't likely to be addressed any time soon.
There are other proprietory tags and methods (eg,.MozOpacity() vs.filter(alpha:)) that also require code forking or prototyping to work around.
having your NAME come top of the list when you type it as a search;-) See that Scott Porter bloke? That's me, that is! I also get second place, dunno who that imposter is at number 3 though... grrr...;-)
Was DoomII really ported to an arcade machine over in the States? I remember seeing one in the Film "Grosse Point Blanke" and thought it was probably a fabrication. If it was real, it must have been a nightmare to play with a joystick and XX buttons for weapons, jump, strafe etc etc!!
Typical Linux FUD. Microsoft improves security and gets flamed because poorly written software no longer works.
Not FUD, fact - I went through this. While Windows2000 can be set up to be a little more secure from total anhialation from virii etc, it's such a pain most people wouldn't bother. Almost ALL the software I installed on that machine had problems until I manually changed permissions (which probably compromise security so much it's hardly worth having).
With *nix I'd generally install as root, then each use can run the software, and store settings in their home directory. With Windows I installed as admin, and then the software just stores settings wherever the hell it likes (or tries to). It's a complete mess, and unlikely to help it's "trustworthy computing" [snigger] image. How on earth they expect a modem user to download at least 50MB of patches is beyond me! Luckily I have ADSL so it only took a few hours to finish the reinstall, on a modem, I doubt I'd have bothered with "SP3".
Fortunately, Microsoft also has a new Critical Update delivery system that can quietly download patches in the background and let you know when they are ready to install. Gee, that's gotta make life easier for dial-up users.
Yeah right - because obviously you'd still be able to fly along on a 56k modem while simultaneously downloading a 50MB (at least) file. I'd forgotten that modems were magic, and background transfers actually didn't use an bandwidth - silly me...
From their page: Dual 1.6Ghz Athlon. 512MB RAM for standard definition. 1GB RAM for high definition. 200 GB storage for movie files. Gigabit ethernet
So this is the recommended system? If this software outfit are anything like games companies and the recommended systems you see on the side of the box, it looks like you'll need twin Cray 6's with 16TB of RAM to do anything useful;-)
If anything w2k had an easier time. Since he was using the manufacturer's CDs, they'd also come with the correct drivers, tailored for that system. The standard w2k install has pitiful hardware support, and would require a lot fo time spent trying to navigate the horrendous Flash abominations that are hardware manufacturer's websites...
I agree it's not fair. The guy was obviously using at least a cable modem/DSL to download updates for one thing. I recently reinstalled W2K on a machine for a friend whose machine had contracted a virus (there's a surprise). After all the normal reboots I had to go search for drivers (he'd lost the original driver disks from various upgrades) and then take on the HUGE amount of security patches.
How on earth they expect a modem user to download at least 50MB of patches is beyond me! Luckily I have ADSL so it only took a few hours to finish the reinstall, on a modem, I doubt I'd have bothered with "SP3".
Another thing the tester didn't mention was the problems involved in setting up a non-admin user account to work with 3rd party software. Flash, Fireworks and many other apps were throwing up all kinds of errors due to the user acct not having enough access to the registry, directory permission problems etc. Sort these last points out took at least another hour and would probably cause most people to just say "the hell with it" and run as administrator (with the inevitable re-infection at some point)...
As an animal lover I've always thought I'd love to give them more than just monetary support. Sure, it's likely not the idylic job I've conjured up in my mind, but I'm sure that I'd feel one hell of a lot more fulfilled knowing I'd saved a few dogs and cats from brutality and death than knowing I'd written X lines of code for some business.
Hell, if I had enough money behind me I'd go work for them for free!
I remember that program, professor Heinz Wolfe presented it. Sort of like a 70's version of Scrapheap Challenge, but for boffins and REAL geeks only;-)
Maybe is the DMCA is repealed this will fail, but since our prime minister dances to Bush's tune he'll just blindly follow whatever the US does. It's sad really that we have such a pathetic bunch of losers to choose between when we get the rare chance of putting a X in a box.
Well I doubt it'll make much difference to points 2 and 3, and as for 1: Which country is still holding hundreds(?) of Afghan people in a concentration camp, who are treated as less than human and have yet to have been found guilty of anything? Funnily enough, the reporters who were captured by the "Forces of Evil" have stated they were treated with dignity and respect, and allowed to leave as soon as their innocence was proven.
Well I'm in the UK and no, I don't think it's much of a democrasy. I mean, what power do the people really wield? We get to put a X in a box once every 5 years. That's it. Even then, your choice is of "Self serving, power-hungry, ignorant glutton A" or "Self serving, power-hungry, ignorant glutton B". Some choice.
I don't vote, along with a growing number of my fellow countrymen so the stats would suggest. I don't like to encourage the tossers in Whitehall into thinking anyone actually respects anything they do.
I'm guessing a great many European readers here have been thinking the exact same thing, but didn't relish being modded down as a "Troll" if they vocalised their thoughts.
I have no problem with the American people, just their government, it's policies, their apparent belief that greed, litigiousness and callousness are to be rewarded and that their views should be foisted upon the entire Earth.
Yes, America really is at the root of most of the problems on the 'net. The VAST majority of spam eminates from the US (or at least seems to be on behalf of US companies). Their DMCA is wreaking havoc with personal freedom and even threatens the future of OS software. Their "entertainment" companies want control over all electronic storage devices, etc etc etc.
I say host/. in the UK and cut all the cables under the pond.;-)
Yeah, mod me down - at least I feel better now I've vented...
Well I wouldn't worry about "piling on" with that example. If anything, demonstrating perhaps the most inefficient method to write "Hello World" in perl is just helping promote PHP...
Why should I have to sit down and read through PHP stuff when I already know perl?
You know, I thought exactly the same thing - I've written a LOT of perl-driven sites over the years and always considered PHP a sort of "perl for dummies" until I actually decided to use it.
Maybe the earlier versions were bad (you can see by the fact the language still has a lot of ugly constructs that it's evolving all the time), but it really is excellent for putting a dynamic site together very quickly. The huge amount of convenience functions just save so much time (yeah, ok you could have a massive library of Perl objects and functions you coud pull in to every script, but it's not going to be as fast). Then there's the fact a designer can work on the same files as a coder without having to use templates.
It's fast too! No, not C/C++ fast, but I certainly haven't noticed any database driven sites being held back by it - and freedom from/cgi-bin/ is nice.
Of course, for command-line tools I still use Perl.
Since the most important company information, and indeed in many cases the company assets are stored on electronic media, I'd say that cracking a company's computer network is a more intrusive crime than smashing in the door to their offices and stealing the hard-copy.
I don't think even our politicians in the UK are quite corrupt enough to consider passing a law to allow this kind of behaviour from corporates with big pockets. Hopefully it really is the sort of thing we'll only see going on in the US...
"While testing for Oracle vulnerabilities, Mark Litchfield discovered a denial of service attack for Apache on Windows. Investigation by the Apache Software Foundation showed that this issue has a wider scope, which on some platforms results in a denial of service vulnerability, while on some other platforms presents a potential remote exploit vulnerability."
So, while the problem was initially detected on the Windows platform, it has been found to affect other platforms. In fact at the very top of the advisory we see this:
"Versions: Apache 1.3 all versions including 1.3.24; Apache 2.0 all versions up to 2.0.36; Apache 1.2 all versions."
Now I'm not sure what "all versions" means to you, but to me it doesn't mean "Windows only"...
So snosoft are a security research company? Then how come they haven't bothered updating their web server to fix the security flaw mentioned over a month ago?
I imagine someone's already working on a hack to make this bad-boy dance the funky chicken. It'd be cool to watch a bunch of them dancing in sequence...
Erm, I think it will have a VERY noticable effect on the blackmarket in reprogrammed phones. There are businesses that currently operate legitimately whose sole business is chaning the identity of [stolen] phones. The only reason anyone would wish to do this is to sell a stolen phone, there's no other purpose for it. Sure you might want to do this yourself, but why? It's not as though anything spectacular will happen!
Maybe you think anyone should be able to file off vehicle identification serial numbers too, or wire up their house with all the earth wires and live wires reversed?
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Yeah, it is pretty simple to work around the differences in most cases (especially if you remove NS4x from the equation). I write my own APIs for this stuff.
;-)
The big problem is with browsers like Opera which has a largely braindead javascript/DOM implementation, and stubs for methods that don't actually work. So for instance, document.createElement(whatever) doesn't generate an error - it just doesn't do anything (this is why I treat Opera as Netscape 3 with CSS)! Konqueror also has some bizarre bugs when creating DOM trees on the fly (eg, spans don't report their computedWidth, strange crashes with legal code etc).
The there's the problem of browsers working differently between platforms (anyone who's ever tested code for IE on PC, Mac and Sun hardware will have come across these "challenges"
Not if you're using DHTML. Mozilla currently has some severe issues that really should have been fixed a long time ago - for instance, Bug 78497, which prevents images with transparent areas being clipped at all. Since clipping works with opaque images you'd think this wasn't too big a problem to fix, but it's been there for well over a year now (in various other bug #'s) and still isn't likely to be addressed any time soon.
.MozOpacity() vs .filter(alpha:)) that also require code forking or prototyping to work around.
There are other proprietory tags and methods (eg,
having your NAME come top of the list when you type it as a search ;-) See that Scott Porter bloke? That's me, that is! I also get second place, dunno who that imposter is at number 3 though... grrr... ;-)
Was DoomII really ported to an arcade machine over in the States? I remember seeing one in the Film "Grosse Point Blanke" and thought it was probably a fabrication. If it was real, it must have been a nightmare to play with a joystick and XX buttons for weapons, jump, strafe etc etc!!
Typical Linux FUD. Microsoft improves security and gets flamed because poorly written software no longer works.
Not FUD, fact - I went through this. While Windows2000 can be set up to be a little more secure from total anhialation from virii etc, it's such a pain most people wouldn't bother. Almost ALL the software I installed on that machine had problems until I manually changed permissions (which probably compromise security so much it's hardly worth having).
With *nix I'd generally install as root, then each use can run the software, and store settings in their home directory. With Windows I installed as admin, and then the software just stores settings wherever the hell it likes (or tries to). It's a complete mess, and unlikely to help it's "trustworthy computing" [snigger] image.
How on earth they expect a modem user to download at least 50MB of patches is beyond me! Luckily I have ADSL so it only took a few hours to finish the reinstall, on a modem, I doubt I'd have bothered with "SP3".
Fortunately, Microsoft also has a new Critical Update delivery system that can quietly download patches in the background and let you know when they are ready to install. Gee, that's gotta make life easier for dial-up users.
Yeah right - because obviously you'd still be able to fly along on a 56k modem while simultaneously downloading a 50MB (at least) file. I'd forgotten that modems were magic, and background transfers actually didn't use an bandwidth - silly me...
From their page:
;-)
Dual 1.6Ghz Athlon.
512MB RAM for standard definition.
1GB RAM for high definition.
200 GB storage for movie files.
Gigabit ethernet
So this is the recommended system? If this software outfit are anything like games companies and the recommended systems you see on the side of the box, it looks like you'll need twin Cray 6's with 16TB of RAM to do anything useful
If anything w2k had an easier time. Since he was using the manufacturer's CDs, they'd also come with the correct drivers, tailored for that system. The standard w2k install has pitiful hardware support, and would require a lot fo time spent trying to navigate the horrendous Flash abominations that are hardware manufacturer's websites...
I agree it's not fair. The guy was obviously using at least a cable modem/DSL to download updates for one thing. I recently reinstalled W2K on a machine for a friend whose machine had contracted a virus (there's a surprise). After all the normal reboots I had to go search for drivers (he'd lost the original driver disks from various upgrades) and then take on the HUGE amount of security patches.
How on earth they expect a modem user to download at least 50MB of patches is beyond me! Luckily I have ADSL so it only took a few hours to finish the reinstall, on a modem, I doubt I'd have bothered with "SP3".
Another thing the tester didn't mention was the problems involved in setting up a non-admin user account to work with 3rd party software. Flash, Fireworks and many other apps were throwing up all kinds of errors due to the user acct not having enough access to the registry, directory permission problems etc. Sort these last points out took at least another hour and would probably cause most people to just say "the hell with it" and run as administrator (with the inevitable re-infection at some point)...
As an animal lover I've always thought I'd love to give them more than just monetary support. Sure, it's likely not the idylic job I've conjured up in my mind, but I'm sure that I'd feel one hell of a lot more fulfilled knowing I'd saved a few dogs and cats from brutality and death than knowing I'd written X lines of code for some business.
Hell, if I had enough money behind me I'd go work for them for free!
No. Only in Europe has there ever been state sponsored genocide. Twice.
;-)
Well there's the proof that the Government propaganda really does work.
Just remind me again, which country has the honour of being the only one to use nuclear weapons to kill hundreds of thousands of people...
No, they didn't do anything like that in 'nam, did they...
I remember that program, professor Heinz Wolfe presented it. Sort of like a 70's version of Scrapheap Challenge, but for boffins and REAL geeks only ;-)
Here's a link to some info about it...
Maybe is the DMCA is repealed this will fail, but since our prime minister dances to Bush's tune he'll just blindly follow whatever the US does. It's sad really that we have such a pathetic bunch of losers to choose between when we get the rare chance of putting a X in a box.
Well I doubt it'll make much difference to points 2 and 3, and as for 1: Which country is still holding hundreds(?) of Afghan people in a concentration camp, who are treated as less than human and have yet to have been found guilty of anything? Funnily enough, the reporters who were captured by the "Forces of Evil" have stated they were treated with dignity and respect, and allowed to leave as soon as their innocence was proven.
Well I'm in the UK and no, I don't think it's much of a democrasy. I mean, what power do the people really wield? We get to put a X in a box once every 5 years. That's it. Even then, your choice is of "Self serving, power-hungry, ignorant glutton A" or "Self serving, power-hungry, ignorant glutton B". Some choice.
I don't vote, along with a growing number of my fellow countrymen so the stats would suggest. I don't like to encourage the tossers in Whitehall into thinking anyone actually respects anything they do.
I'm guessing a great many European readers here have been thinking the exact same thing, but didn't relish being modded down as a "Troll" if they vocalised their thoughts.
/. in the UK and cut all the cables under the pond. ;-)
I have no problem with the American people, just their government, it's policies, their apparent belief that greed, litigiousness and callousness are to be rewarded and that their views should be foisted upon the entire Earth.
Yes, America really is at the root of most of the problems on the 'net. The VAST majority of spam eminates from the US (or at least seems to be on behalf of US companies). Their DMCA is wreaking havoc with personal freedom and even threatens the future of OS software. Their "entertainment" companies want control over all electronic storage devices, etc etc etc.
I say host
Yeah, mod me down - at least I feel better now I've vented...
A properly configured instance of Apache can execute whatever you want in any directory
s/properly/badly/;
Well I wouldn't worry about "piling on" with that example. If anything, demonstrating perhaps the most inefficient method to write "Hello World" in perl is just helping promote PHP...
Why should I have to sit down and read through PHP stuff when I already know perl?
/cgi-bin/ is nice.
You know, I thought exactly the same thing - I've written a LOT of perl-driven sites over the years and always considered PHP a sort of "perl for dummies" until I actually decided to use it.
Maybe the earlier versions were bad (you can see by the fact the language still has a lot of ugly constructs that it's evolving all the time), but it really is excellent for putting a dynamic site together very quickly. The huge amount of convenience functions just save so much time (yeah, ok you could have a massive library of Perl objects and functions you coud pull in to every script, but it's not going to be as fast).
Then there's the fact a designer can work on the same files as a coder without having to use templates.
It's fast too! No, not C/C++ fast, but I certainly haven't noticed any database driven sites being held back by it - and freedom from
Of course, for command-line tools I still use Perl.
I'll only need 5 drawers for my Pr0n collection now!
Since the most important company information, and indeed in many cases the company assets are stored on electronic media, I'd say that cracking a company's computer network is a more intrusive crime than smashing in the door to their offices and stealing the hard-copy.
I don't think even our politicians in the UK are quite corrupt enough to consider passing a law to allow this kind of behaviour from corporates with big pockets. Hopefully it really is the sort of thing we'll only see going on in the US...
From the Apache.org advisory:
"While testing for Oracle vulnerabilities, Mark Litchfield discovered a denial of service attack for Apache on Windows. Investigation by the Apache Software Foundation showed that this issue has a wider scope, which on some platforms results in a denial of service vulnerability, while on some other platforms presents a potential remote exploit vulnerability."
So, while the problem was initially detected on the Windows platform, it has been found to affect other platforms. In fact at the very top of the advisory we see this:
"Versions: Apache 1.3 all versions including 1.3.24; Apache 2.0 all versions
up to 2.0.36; Apache 1.2 all versions."
Now I'm not sure what "all versions" means to you, but to me it doesn't mean "Windows only"...
So snosoft are a security research company? Then how come they haven't bothered updating their web server to fix the security flaw mentioned over a month ago?
According to Netcraft, they're still running Apache 2.0.35...
I imagine someone's already working on a hack to make this bad-boy dance the funky chicken. It'd be cool to watch a bunch of them dancing in sequence...
This will do nothing to stop mugging
Erm, I think it will have a VERY noticable effect on the blackmarket in reprogrammed phones. There are businesses that currently operate legitimately whose sole business is chaning the identity of [stolen] phones. The only reason anyone would wish to do this is to sell a stolen phone, there's no other purpose for it. Sure you might want to do this yourself, but why? It's not as though anything spectacular will happen!
Maybe you think anyone should be able to file off vehicle identification serial numbers too, or wire up their house with all the earth wires and live wires reversed?