I had this EXACT same issue, only the AppleCare admin girl told me that I COULD buy the warranty, but her manager had to do it. Only problem being the mangers we on vacation until January 5th.
I called back January 7th or 8th for good measure, and they wouldn't sell me the warranty.
I filed a formal complaint with customer relations (who didn't care and wasn't sympathetic at all) and informed them that I will not be buying an apple portables any longer. (unfortunatley i love the platform too much to give it up all together)
I haven't seen anyone throw this out, but I'm wondering who is saying that the UNIX and LINUX code is similar?
Clearly it's not an engineer, they wouldn't stoop to this. Any developer worth their weight in RAM would know better - especially with the simple C functions/macros like Linus has pointed out?
Is it possible that there are marking, sales, managers, or even layers going through the code and saying that it's similar because it looks similar to them and they don't know any better?
Will the courts know any better? NO - but rember that SCO has already called on Linus to testify - and he knows better!
Does it make sense for the Canopy group to endorse legal action for one of items in their portfolio that will almost certiantly hurt 2 other in the portfolio. Or are LinuxNetworx and TrollTech allower to use linux?
What about computer science students who have legitimate assignments writing TCP or UDP servers. That is a very reasonable (and common) assignment for an intro to networking class?
Can you go after the University when they cut out you internet access for doing your assignments? Or can you refuse to do your homework because your professor has assigned something that breaks school rules?
Alternative to completly restricting all server trafic, wouldn't it be possible to fingerprint the protocols that you don't want and only scan for those?
This whole thing just seems way to far reaching...
I guess my advanced distributed database processing research is more of the pre-school level that Master of Science - since i'm developing it on Apple.
They only think so little of human nature because that is the kind of bottom feeders they are. It's just like the MPAA comercials before movies now. If a producer doesn't profit $10 million (like 5 times what I will earn in my lifetime in raw sallary), then something isn't right with the world.
The root of the problem is, alltogther now, greed - Metallica style
This makes me want to share my entire music and movie collection on a Linux box and make sure that SCO knows about it. RIAA, MPAA, SCO, M$ - all evil companies (orginizations).
It is all greed - CEO greed, shareholder greed. This country is going to hell in a handbasket....bummer
Sooooo... how come noone goes after Microsoft for releasing a defective product? I mean it worked for the tobaco industry.
Microsoft has across the bord failed to deliver the elvel of security needed when you are going to provide a desktop OS to mostly clueless users, and the should have to pay the price. If General Motors left an extra key hole on the door of your car, but made it so any key would work in it - well I just don't think they could get away with that.
It's high time we hold software to the same standards that other consumer products have to live up to!!
Cincinnati was one of the first test markets, and I have had mine for well over 2 months. Well, I'm on my second one.
See they get REALLY REALLY hot, because the hard disk runs all the time (even when the box is powered off) Make sure you have yours in a well ventilated area and don't stack other equipment on top of it.
But will Linux ever overthrow Mac in it's niche markets. Probably not.
Personally, I won't give up my mac. I use it for a wide range of tasks from Music, to Video Editing, document preperation, and development in several languages (c, obj-c, java, perl, python, php, etc). I do have several linux boxes as well though. I use them for certain tasks (web server, CVS server, NFS), but they haven't replaced my main desktop.
I just don't know how I feel about this, there's now doubt that Mac is better on the desktop (and the laptop for sure), but linux has it's place.
Will linux pass mac on the desktop? maybe. Will us Mac users care?...nope.
you will find this...
"A corporate sponsor of Linux International, SCO has always supported open standards, UNIX Systems and server-based technologies and solutions that benefit business computing. Our engineers have continuously participated in the Open Source movement, providing source code such as lxrun, and the OpenSAR kernel monitoring utility. We offer a free Open Source software supplement that includes many Open Source technologies as well as making our commercial UNIX products available free for non-commercial use. "
Re:Odd, I see the exact opposite.
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HereHere!!
I suffer from this day in and day out. Often with the attidute that since I have less than 10 years experience, my ideas can't possible be right unless validated by someone higher up the tree.
Ok, so do they need the license and the trademark from 2 different sources?
Aparently you ceritfy your OS and buy the rights for the trademark from the OpenGroup and then you also need a license from SCO...am I following this right?
But SCO doesn't seem to be up in arms over unlicensed releases that are legitimatley derived from the unix source base (OS X).
I just don't see how anyone has any legs to stand on when ther are at least 3 legitimate owners of unix property of some sort (Open Group, SCO, and Novell), plus all of Universities that received early licenses....
Seems like it's time to public domain some stuff....
This is never mentioned in the article, but why would Apple choose intel processors over the IBM 970?
I think that a software release of Mac OSX for x86 processors is much more likely than apple branded Intel machine. Of course this is also a very unlikely event as long as Apple is still doing OK in the hardware arena.
As an Apple user, I would be very disappointed to move off of the PowerPC processor line.
So, longhorn is going to be based on XML? How exactly? Last time I checked, you couldn't write a kernel in XML.
And, now having hardware and software tied together is a good thing? I think that's what makes your unices so powerful, a kernel that is seperated from
the physical layer. If anyone going to be able to afford these advanced authentication devices - and does everyone really need that. kind of protection in the home? - Let's face it, Microsoft still doesn't dominiate in the server market and everyone in the server market seems to be getting along just fine with non-authorized hardware.
And - being a Mac user - my favoriate part is how Microsoft will catch up to Apple in the graphics department - 4 years later. Not that they're behind technologically or anything
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more off - who approved him registering for 37 credit hours - NO advisor should allow this for ANY student.
funny.... I thought it was called Java
Ok, duplicate news stories is one thing...
but duplicate ask slashdots?
1) write your own web applications
2) Use lucene
3) only index what you want to index
4) ????
5) profit
I wonder why SCO isn't warning congress about Microsoft being a thread to national security and the economy.
I woud think that a bunch of us handing our info over to india might fall under both of those....
I had this EXACT same issue, only the AppleCare admin girl told me that I COULD buy the warranty, but her manager had to do it. Only problem being the mangers we on vacation until January 5th.
I called back January 7th or 8th for good measure, and they wouldn't sell me the warranty.
I filed a formal complaint with customer relations (who didn't care and wasn't sympathetic at all) and informed them that I will not be buying an apple portables any longer. (unfortunatley i love the platform too much to give it up all together)
I haven't seen anyone throw this out, but I'm wondering who is saying that the UNIX and LINUX code is similar?
Clearly it's not an engineer, they wouldn't stoop to this. Any developer worth their weight in RAM would know better - especially with the simple C functions/macros like Linus has pointed out?
Is it possible that there are marking, sales, managers, or even layers going through the code and saying that it's similar because it looks similar to them and they don't know any better?
Will the courts know any better? NO - but rember that SCO has already called on Linus to testify - and he knows better!
Now, this is interesting. The canopy group also funds a company called Linux Networx. linuxnetworx.com
They also fund our friends over at TrollTech
Does it make sense for the Canopy group to endorse legal action for one of items in their portfolio that will almost certiantly hurt 2 other in the portfolio. Or are LinuxNetworx and TrollTech allower to use linux?
You tell me, cause I don't know.
What about computer science students who have legitimate assignments writing TCP or UDP servers. That is a very reasonable (and common) assignment for an intro to networking class?
Can you go after the University when they cut out you internet access for doing your assignments? Or can you refuse to do your homework because your professor has assigned something that breaks school rules?
Alternative to completly restricting all server trafic, wouldn't it be possible to fingerprint the protocols that you don't want and only scan for those?
This whole thing just seems way to far reaching...
Yes, but the person submitting the article sure goes ahead and makes that leap.
I guess my advanced distributed database processing research is more of the pre-school level that Master of Science - since i'm developing it on Apple.
I love when flame wars start in the artice post.
They only think so little of human nature because that is the kind of bottom feeders they are. It's just like the MPAA comercials before movies now. If a producer doesn't profit $10 million (like 5 times what I will earn in my lifetime in raw sallary), then something isn't right with the world.
The root of the problem is, alltogther now, greed - Metallica style
This makes me want to share my entire music and movie collection on a Linux box and make sure that SCO knows about it. RIAA, MPAA, SCO, M$ - all evil companies (orginizations).
It is all greed - CEO greed, shareholder greed. This country is going to hell in a handbasket....bummer
Sooooo... how come noone goes after Microsoft for releasing a defective product? I mean it worked for the tobaco industry.
Microsoft has across the bord failed to deliver the elvel of security needed when you are going to provide a desktop OS to mostly clueless users, and the should have to pay the price. If General Motors left an extra key hole on the door of your car, but made it so any key would work in it - well I just don't think they could get away with that.
It's high time we hold software to the same standards that other consumer products have to live up to!!
Cincinnati was one of the first test markets, and I have had mine for well over 2 months. Well, I'm on my second one.
See they get REALLY REALLY hot, because the hard disk runs all the time (even when the box is powered off)
Make sure you have yours in a well ventilated area and don't stack other equipment on top of it.
Will this happen in general? maybe.
...nope.
But will Linux ever overthrow Mac in it's niche markets. Probably not.
Personally, I won't give up my mac. I use it for a wide range of tasks from Music, to Video Editing, document preperation, and development in several languages (c, obj-c, java, perl, python, php, etc). I do have several linux boxes as well though. I use them for certain tasks (web server, CVS server, NFS), but they haven't replaced my main desktop.
I just don't know how I feel about this, there's now doubt that Mac is better on the desktop (and the laptop for sure), but linux has it's place.
Will linux pass mac on the desktop? maybe. Will us Mac users care?
And on this linke http://web.archive.org/web/20000816145931/www.sco. com/linux/
you will find this... "A corporate sponsor of Linux International, SCO has always supported open standards, UNIX Systems and server-based technologies and solutions that benefit business computing. Our engineers have continuously participated in the Open Source movement, providing source code such as lxrun, and the OpenSAR kernel monitoring utility. We offer a free Open Source software supplement that includes many Open Source technologies as well as making our commercial UNIX products available free for non-commercial use. "
HereHere!!
I suffer from this day in and day out. Often with the attidute that since I have less than 10 years experience, my ideas can't possible be right unless validated by someone higher up the tree.
Ok, so do they need the license and the trademark from 2 different sources?
Aparently you ceritfy your OS and buy the rights for the trademark from the OpenGroup and then you also need a license from SCO...am I following this right?
But SCO doesn't seem to be up in arms over unlicensed releases that are legitimatley derived from the unix source base (OS X).
I just don't see how anyone has any legs to stand on when ther are at least 3 legitimate owners of unix property of some sort (Open Group, SCO, and Novell), plus all of Universities that received early licenses....
Seems like it's time to public domain some stuff....
and in other news, SCO is sueing RIAA for eating into the profits they were going to get by selling a unix liscense to this site.
Don't just go to http://jodi.org
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your screen will run amouck with javascript created windows - well if you're on windows using IE, that's all they give us at work
This is never mentioned in the article, but why would Apple choose intel processors over the IBM 970?
I think that a software release of Mac OSX for x86 processors is much more likely than apple branded Intel machine. Of course this is also a very unlikely event as long as Apple is still doing OK in the hardware arena.
As an Apple user, I would be very disappointed to move off of the PowerPC processor line.
Can someone post a screenshot for those of us not fortunate enough to have a windows machine?
Actually, last week they elminated pay incrases and bonuses .... but I didn't get a pink slip like 1000 others :)
Does anyone know any technical details about this projects.
Do they indent to do LAM/MPI style communications or will it push the client code and execute it independe3ntly (ie. a SETI type project).
It's really an issue of weather or not all the nodes are equals on the network or not..
So, longhorn is going to be based on XML? How exactly? Last time I checked, you couldn't write a kernel in XML.
And, now having hardware and software tied together is a good thing? I think that's what makes your unices so powerful, a kernel that is seperated from the physical layer. If anyone going to be able to afford these advanced authentication devices - and does everyone really need that. kind of protection in the home? - Let's face it, Microsoft still doesn't dominiate in the server market and everyone in the server market seems to be getting along just fine with non-authorized hardware.
And - being a Mac user - my favoriate part is how Microsoft will catch up to Apple in the graphics department - 4 years later. Not that they're behind technologically or anything