Heh, with names like that, no wonder...... "I'll just pull up a search on visivimo... I mean vimisivio.... I mean vivimiso.... I mean.... awww, screw it. Google...." Let's face it, if you're going to try to overthrow a behemoth like Google, you should start by using a simple, easily-remembered, not-pointlessly-unintelligible name. Vivisimo? Teoma? Not bloody likely.
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Patent Nonsense
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I think, perhaps, that size is not necessarily the issue, as much as mentality. From what I can see, Americans are more rule-bound than many other nations. A quick example: in Canada (yes, I'm Canadian), our highway-level speed limit is 100km/h (a few miles faster than 60mph, to put it in perspective). However, its generally understood (in an unspoken type of way) that 120km/h is an acceptable speed. When you drive down to the States (or when Americans drive up here), they seem to drive very slowly. What am I getting at? The American psyche seems to be based around rules and boundaries. I personally don't know if this would work in the US, simply because the culture there isn't right for it. It seems that there is this idea that you must protect what you have, and if the current system doesn't work to do that, more rules must be created. Obviously, there is a point (which we are fast approaching, if not already at) where few but those able to pay for expensive lawyers will be able to benefit from such a rule-bound society.
I hate to nitpick, but ml and cm^3 are both measurements of volume (and yes, they are equal). Perhaps you are referring to 1mg = 1cm^3 of water at sea level (or it might be 1g = 1cm^3, it doesnt matter). This is mass vs volume, not weight. Anyway, it makes no difference - this won't apply to beer, as beer is not water.
Actually, it appears to be DOS. The format of linux ping (with default options) is actually quite different (I was wondering about this myself, so I ping'ed google from my linux box, then checked on a windows box......) linux responses look like this:
64 bytes from www.google.com (216.239.33.101): icmp_seq=5 ttl=49 time=107.559 msec
and windows (DOS) look like this:
Reply from 216.239.51.101: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=47
Heh, in Canada, we've got the epitome of the oxymoronic political party name: the Progressive Conservatives. Though, really, they're just the Conservatives (I think they merged with another party back in the day, that's where the "progressive" part came from).
$40/month Canadian (thus, less American)
Cogeco Cable Solutions (in Ontario). Incidently, I believe they were also the first provider to drop @Home (they did it shortly after @Home filed for protection, and well before they actually announced actual loss of services -- the transition was wonderfully smooth, and speeds have increased). Anyway, my d/l speed seems to go as high as 300K/sec at times (though this is rare), and probably averages 100K/sec. Upload, I've never tested, and Cogeco's site is sparse with the details (x times faster than dialup, etc, etc).
If you like KDE's Advanced Editor, you should try Quanta. It's got pretty much the same syntax highlighting (I'm pretty sure it uses the same KDE widget), though the PHP highlighting works better, and it has a project-based interface. As well, it includes inline PHP, JavaScript, and HTML reference. I personally used to use Advanced Editor (and at one point Kate) until I discovered Quanta. IMO, it is a natural extension of kwrite into a PHP IDE.
and those operating systems are included free with the computer.
Correction: those operating systems are included with the computer. As it has been stated throughout this discussion, the cost of propriety software included in prepackaged systems can ammount to a significant proportion of the final system's price. Free? I don't think so.
If you need a graphics program for a Windows or Mac, may I recommend that you look into Deneba Canvas. It's what I use on that side, and I'm quite pleased with it.
Personnally, I find Jasc Paint Shop Pro to be another excellent graphics program for Windows. It has most of the features of Photoshop (and probably some Photoshop doesn't have), and supports Photoshop plugins, and is way less expensive.
I can personally vouch for this: I have run IE 5.5 numerous times over WINE (just to see if it works, its a tad slow over WINE and doesn't have the features I come to expect from using Konqi)
Or, instead of making it a reply, keep with the "annotations" idea: the author can add a limited number of short, timestamped updates to their own posts, and these updates appear along with the original post. Then, each update can be moderated independent of the original post (and perhaps automatically "inherit" the original score). This way, the author would not be able to use a previous post to flood/. with trolls. As well, this would prevent a plethora of you-stupid-bastard-your-link-is-wrong-use-preview replies. After the first few such replies, the author would have posted an annotation to their original post, instead of a reply to their own post (which people don't get to until after they have posted their own variation on a you-stupid-bastard reply).
I think VMWare does the same thing (Their current version is 3.0, but you can download 2.0 without paying for it, last time I checked). Also not open source (obviously).
And actually, I'd like to see IE on Linux too. Opera [opera.com] is starting to get really good, but nothing, and I do mean nothing, beats IE with the Google Toolbar [google.com] today.
In regards to the google toolbar, easy searching functionality has been around in Konqueror for awhile. You can "create" your own URIs (or just use the set of default ones) such that "gg:whatever" will search for "whatever" on google or "rpm:whatever" will search for "whatever" on rpmfind (for me -- the default is rf or rpmfind).
Personally, I find that the interface for at least two Open Source browsers -- Konqueror and Galeon -- far surpasses IE's interface. Mozilla with the MultiZilla tabbed interface is also excellent (and IMO better than IE).
Many people also complain that IE can view everything. Unfortunately, there are some pages that are IE-specific, but I have not found too many pages that I cannot view in at least one of Konqueror, Netscape, or Mozilla. Quite simply, IE on Linux is not something I find to be necessary.
Cogeco@Home (in Canada) made the switch two or three weeks ago. Our email addresses are now @cogeco.ca.
Some interesting things to point out: I can now "officially" have up to three unique IPs (previously their site said you had to pay an extra fee per additional box but it worked without payment anyway). (Un)fortunately my IP is no longer static: though there are some advantages security wise (errr sort of) I am a bit ticked off -- it can be rather annoying to run a static domain with a dynamic IP address. Security is not as much of a concern as it is for some, since I am not running useless services and I am running a firewall.
Re:Blech. Most of them are pretty bad.
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I agree: most Java IDEs I have tried are much too slow. I would like a good native IDE, not written in Java -- they're just too slow and cumbersome (swing's responsive on my box can be downright horrible at times).
I am currently using kate (one of the editors that comes with KDE), as I can turn on the filelist to get a list of open files, use the projectmanager plugin (comes with it) to easily load sets of files, and the java highlighting is good. Ant is great for my compilation needs, and I just use konsole's "tabbed" multiple-shells-in-one-window interface to handle the various parts of my projects (kate also allows you to have a shell built into your editing window, but I find konsole to be easier).
If you want something with some more features, but isn't as slow as Netbeans/Forte, I was using Jedit before I switched to kate. It is a really good Java-based editor with a great set of plugins so that you can basically build your own customized IDE. In fact, I find Jedit's features, with appropriate plugins installed, to be superior to Forte's.
I wouldn't be surprised if WinAMP itself is being ported with the aid of winelib.
In my experience, WinAmp is runnable just using wine.... though of course, I use native linux players (usually alternating noatun/xmms). I don't use native players for speed considerations, I personally just like them better. Also, support for Arts is a big plus.
Speaking of Arts, I hope that Winamp for Linux will support things like Arts and ESD (which I used to use).
I can see one potential benefit of.sex domains. If it was legislated that all porn must be restricted to.sex domains, than they could rewrite all the context-unsensitive word-blocking apps to simply block all.sex domains. Though obviously, such legislation would never work, but it is a solution that (in my opinion) would allow people to browse most every site they should be looking at on public computers while appeasing all the "block everything, our children will suffer!" people.
Maybe he wants to know if the answer is better than the extremely irrational reasoning that is stereotypically applied to opensource/Free software supporters: "Because we all hate Microsoft, of course!".
Of course, this is not the reason, but he may have heard it, and have his doubts about supporting a bunch of disgruntled MS-haters.
And now, RMS is trying to get his name put on everything (eg, Linux..... please, lets not start this flamewar again) or get control of everything (eg, GCC).
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Heh, with names like that, no wonder......
"I'll just pull up a search on visivimo... I mean vimisivio.... I mean vivimiso.... I mean.... awww, screw it. Google...."
Let's face it, if you're going to try to overthrow a behemoth like Google, you should start by using a simple, easily-remembered, not-pointlessly-unintelligible name. Vivisimo? Teoma? Not bloody likely.
I think, perhaps, that size is not necessarily the issue, as much as mentality. From what I can see, Americans are more rule-bound than many other nations. A quick example: in Canada (yes, I'm Canadian), our highway-level speed limit is 100km/h (a few miles faster than 60mph, to put it in perspective). However, its generally understood (in an unspoken type of way) that 120km/h is an acceptable speed. When you drive down to the States (or when Americans drive up here), they seem to drive very slowly. What am I getting at? The American psyche seems to be based around rules and boundaries. I personally don't know if this would work in the US, simply because the culture there isn't right for it. It seems that there is this idea that you must protect what you have, and if the current system doesn't work to do that, more rules must be created. Obviously, there is a point (which we are fast approaching, if not already at) where few but those able to pay for expensive lawyers will be able to benefit from such a rule-bound society.
I hate to nitpick, but ml and cm^3 are both measurements of volume (and yes, they are equal). Perhaps you are referring to 1mg = 1cm^3 of water at sea level (or it might be 1g = 1cm^3, it doesnt matter). This is mass vs volume, not weight. Anyway, it makes no difference - this won't apply to beer, as beer is not water.
linux responses look like this:
and windows (DOS) look like this:
In other words, its a DOS box.
Heh, in Canada, we've got the epitome of the oxymoronic political party name: the Progressive Conservatives. Though, really, they're just the Conservatives (I think they merged with another party back in the day, that's where the "progressive" part came from).
$40/month Canadian (thus, less American)
Cogeco Cable Solutions (in Ontario). Incidently, I believe they were also the first provider to drop @Home (they did it shortly after @Home filed for protection, and well before they actually announced actual loss of services -- the transition was wonderfully smooth, and speeds have increased). Anyway, my d/l speed seems to go as high as 300K/sec at times (though this is rare), and probably averages 100K/sec. Upload, I've never tested, and Cogeco's site is sparse with the details (x times faster than dialup, etc, etc).
If you like KDE's Advanced Editor, you should try Quanta. It's got pretty much the same syntax highlighting (I'm pretty sure it uses the same KDE widget), though the PHP highlighting works better, and it has a project-based interface. As well, it includes inline PHP, JavaScript, and HTML reference. I personally used to use Advanced Editor (and at one point Kate) until I discovered Quanta. IMO, it is a natural extension of kwrite into a PHP IDE.
Correction: those operating systems are included with the computer. As it has been stated throughout this discussion, the cost of propriety software included in prepackaged systems can ammount to a significant proportion of the final system's price. Free? I don't think so.
Personnally, I find Jasc Paint Shop Pro to be another excellent graphics program for Windows. It has most of the features of Photoshop (and probably some Photoshop doesn't have), and supports Photoshop plugins, and is way less expensive.
I can personally vouch for this: I have run IE 5.5 numerous times over WINE (just to see if it works, its a tad slow over WINE and doesn't have the features I come to expect from using Konqi)
Or, instead of making it a reply, keep with the "annotations" idea: the author can add a limited number of short, timestamped updates to their own posts, and these updates appear along with the original post. Then, each update can be moderated independent of the original post (and perhaps automatically "inherit" the original score). This way, the author would not be able to use a previous post to flood /. with trolls. As well, this would prevent a plethora of you-stupid-bastard-your-link-is-wrong-use-preview replies. After the first few such replies, the author would have posted an annotation to their original post, instead of a reply to their own post (which people don't get to until after they have posted their own variation on a you-stupid-bastard reply).
I think VMWare does the same thing (Their current version is 3.0, but you can download 2.0 without paying for it, last time I checked). Also not open source (obviously).
In regards to the google toolbar, easy searching functionality has been around in Konqueror for awhile. You can "create" your own URIs (or just use the set of default ones) such that "gg:whatever" will search for "whatever" on google or "rpm:whatever" will search for "whatever" on rpmfind (for me -- the default is rf or rpmfind).
Personally, I find that the interface for at least two Open Source browsers -- Konqueror and Galeon -- far surpasses IE's interface. Mozilla with the MultiZilla tabbed interface is also excellent (and IMO better than IE).
Many people also complain that IE can view everything. Unfortunately, there are some pages that are IE-specific, but I have not found too many pages that I cannot view in at least one of Konqueror, Netscape, or Mozilla. Quite simply, IE on Linux is not something I find to be necessary.
Yeah......something like:
I'd like to see someone try that one!
Cogeco@Home (in Canada) made the switch two or three weeks ago. Our email addresses are now @cogeco.ca.
Some interesting things to point out: I can now "officially" have up to three unique IPs (previously their site said you had to pay an extra fee per additional box but it worked without payment anyway). (Un)fortunately my IP is no longer static: though there are some advantages security wise (errr sort of) I am a bit ticked off -- it can be rather annoying to run a static domain with a dynamic IP address. Security is not as much of a concern as it is for some, since I am not running useless services and I am running a firewall.
I agree: most Java IDEs I have tried are much too slow. I would like a good native IDE, not written in Java -- they're just too slow and cumbersome (swing's responsive on my box can be downright horrible at times).
I am currently using kate (one of the editors that comes with KDE), as I can turn on the filelist to get a list of open files, use the projectmanager plugin (comes with it) to easily load sets of files, and the java highlighting is good. Ant is great for my compilation needs, and I just use konsole's "tabbed" multiple-shells-in-one-window interface to handle the various parts of my projects (kate also allows you to have a shell built into your editing window, but I find konsole to be easier).
If you want something with some more features, but isn't as slow as Netbeans/Forte, I was using Jedit before I switched to kate. It is a really good Java-based editor with a great set of plugins so that you can basically build your own customized IDE. In fact, I find Jedit's features, with appropriate plugins installed, to be superior to Forte's.
Trolltech sells non-GPL versions of QT to commercial companies, as well, the "free" QT/Windows liscence also has a for-sale commercial counterpart.
In my experience, WinAmp is runnable just using wine.... though of course, I use native linux players (usually alternating noatun/xmms). I don't use native players for speed considerations, I personally just like them better. Also, support for Arts is a big plus.
Speaking of Arts, I hope that Winamp for Linux will support things like Arts and ESD (which I used to use).
I can see one potential benefit of .sex domains. If it was legislated that all porn must be restricted to .sex domains, than they could rewrite all the context-unsensitive word-blocking apps to simply block all .sex domains. Though obviously, such legislation would never work, but it is a solution that (in my opinion) would allow people to browse most every site they should be looking at on public computers while appeasing all the "block everything, our children will suffer!" people.
I can see it now:
http://slashdot.dot/
h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-dot
I believe they were referring to the scalability of BugZilla
Maybe he wants to know if the answer is better than the extremely irrational reasoning that is stereotypically applied to opensource/Free software supporters: "Because we all hate Microsoft, of course!".
Of course, this is not the reason, but he may have heard it, and have his doubts about supporting a bunch of disgruntled MS-haters.
To which he would probably respond: Why?
And now, RMS is trying to get his name put on everything (eg, Linux..... please, lets not start this flamewar again) or get control of everything (eg, GCC).
But will they get to keep their gold?
Or will they be exploited by some faceless corporation? Are they even paid for their mindless labour?
I smell a class-action lawsuit.....