apparently WMP10 in XP SP2 doesn't even give you the option of encoding to MP3 To clarify, WMP8 and WMP9 let you encode to MP3 if you purchased an add-on 3rd party encode pack. WMP10 and newer include an MP3 encoder from the get-go. But your point that WMP cannot DRM MP3 is correct.
I said its possible if you don't pay attention to what you check No, it's really not. There's utterly no option to put DRM on the MP3 files, ripped or not ripped with WMP. Your friend is confused and you're slighting Microsoft for something that is visibly not true and never has been true. Try it: if you select Rip to MP3 or WAV, "Copy protect music" is unchecked and greyed out. Not possible to do this even if you want to, and never has been. =)
No, CDText would have to be supported down at the IMAPI layer and could only really be added by a Windows SP or something of that nature. You'll never get CDText via "just" a WMP update.
Your exact comment was "mp3 ripping is new to WMP 10". MP3 ripping was "new" to WMP8. "Free MP3 Encoder" was new to WMP10. And even that's fudging the line if you know the difference between the Advanced vs Professional flavors of FhG, since the FhG Advanced codec has shipped with MS/WM for about 7 years now. I did work with FhG on their ACM encoder back when it was created... this is an area I hope I know.
So yeah: I do think your comment was overrated, and misleading. Mp3 ripping is not new to WMP10, and that "a fraction of the copies of WMP" who can do it is probably every user on any supported configuration.
Again, I will respect that you're clarifying that you meant "free mp3 ripping was new to WMP10" (which is also not true, as WinSuperSite and others covered way back when in WMP8 beta days), but still... at face value I think what you said was misleading, and we should both know that people like to run off and repeat broken facts ad infinitum. As such, I like my facts straight-up, no chaser.
It was silently on by default only in WMP7, after which point people realized that people were ripping without checking settings, so... yeah, that changed in a hurry.
mms is the relevant protocol. That being said, it is Officially Not Recommended you provide an mms link - you'd want to link to an ASX file pointing to that mms connection.
But in the end mileage varies extremely based upon prejudice. *shrug*
No, it doesn't. It's strange that you would think that. I imagine you have not used the software for many years?
The "DRM by default" option (a configured checkbox that was on by default in WMP7 - released five years ago) was changed as of the next release 8 months later (four years ago).
Well, just to dispel some potential cynicism- There's a finite number of people testing/releasing the software. The obvious Killer Download for most users is the player. There's a huge drop-off in interest comparatively when looking at the codec packages, but MS puts them together anyways and ships them when the involved teams sign off on them. There is no other associated cause for delay - they're put on the release treadmill as soon as they are signed off on. If you're seeing any long delay before a release of stand-alone codecs, then your odds are 90% that it's technical or 10% that it's resource [personnel] contention, and that's about it.
[As you've likely guessed, I do work in the Media group at MS. And as always I'm just speaking for myself.]
Presumably you were warned that either the taskbar player or the player itself was running during the install. The shell can't unload loaded taskbar binaries instantly, so if you had the taskbar player running, you would end up rebooting. It's a known issue that people are looking at for the future.
Believe me, any reboot caused gets heartily scrutinized and people get shot if the reboots were avoidable. If the reboots weren't avoidable, they still get shot. In either case, the survivors get to write a document proposing how this gets fixed for the future.:)
Yes, it rolls back. Like WMP9, it sets a System Restore point, but WMP10 also offers a dedicated Add/Remove Programs control panel entry to allow rollback that does not use System Restore.
There's been varying degrees and implementations of update all along in ActiveMovie/NetShow/WMP, but the first main player Auto Upgrade feature as you're likely referring to it was added back in WMP6.1.
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Where did you go that you had problems finding it? I usually direct people here. If you lemme know where you were trying to get it from and couldn't find it, I can look into it further...
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Which plug-in are you referring to? I thought this change had fixed up most extant issues here... what exactly are you having trouble with?
Various devs worked to make things WORK, not to break things.
-Z (speaking solely for myself, although I do work for MS on the WM team)
Note that WMP6 doesn't handle 'LegacyDisable' properly (and WMP9 uses 'LegacyDisable'), so if you're using WMP9 and want to switch back to WMP6, the steps would be:
Start->Run: wmplayer.exe Tools:Options:File Types Uncheck whatever you're changing the association to WMP6 on. Start->Run: mplayer2.exe View->Options->Formats Select all media types you don't play in winamp.
It's probably not too critical, but I thought I'd point it out anyways for the WMP6-lovers.:)
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Windows Media Player will have Zune links and will have a Zune store.
Um, no. Read the article, specifically the "Zune Software" section.
(following up in email: generally this should cover it, though.)
apparently WMP10 in XP SP2 doesn't even give you the option of encoding to MP3
To clarify, WMP8 and WMP9 let you encode to MP3 if you purchased an add-on 3rd party encode pack. WMP10 and newer include an MP3 encoder from the get-go.
But your point that WMP cannot DRM MP3 is correct.
I said its possible if you don't pay attention to what you check
No, it's really not. There's utterly no option to put DRM on the MP3 files, ripped or not ripped with WMP. Your friend is confused and you're slighting Microsoft for something that is visibly not true and never has been true. Try it: if you select Rip to MP3 or WAV, "Copy protect music" is unchecked and greyed out. Not possible to do this even if you want to, and never has been. =)
You'll enjoy WMP's View:Enhancements:Play Speed Settings, which is where frame stepping and reverse playback live.
No, CDText would have to be supported down at the IMAPI layer and could only really be added by a Windows SP or something of that nature. You'll never get CDText via "just" a WMP update.
Click the "View Options" button and switch to Details view instead of the Icon or Detailed Tiles view....
Your exact comment was "mp3 ripping is new to WMP 10". MP3 ripping was "new" to WMP8. "Free MP3 Encoder" was new to WMP10. And even that's fudging the line if you know the difference between the Advanced vs Professional flavors of FhG, since the FhG Advanced codec has shipped with MS/WM for about 7 years now. I did work with FhG on their ACM encoder back when it was created... this is an area I hope I know.
So yeah: I do think your comment was overrated, and misleading. Mp3 ripping is not new to WMP10, and that "a fraction of the copies of WMP" who can do it is probably every user on any supported configuration.
Again, I will respect that you're clarifying that you meant "free mp3 ripping was new to WMP10" (which is also not true, as WinSuperSite and others covered way back when in WMP8 beta days), but still... at face value I think what you said was misleading, and we should both know that people like to run off and repeat broken facts ad infinitum. As such, I like my facts straight-up, no chaser.
It was silently on by default only in WMP7, after which point people realized that people were ripping without checking settings, so ... yeah, that changed in a hurry.
That's not true. It was new in WMP8 ("Media Player for Windows XP"). WMP9 had it too, and has it downlevel.
Skipping aside all other issues...
Than just use the 64-bit codecs Microsoft already released for their 64-bit encoder....
mms is the relevant protocol. That being said, it is Officially Not Recommended you provide an mms link - you'd want to link to an ASX file pointing to that mms connection.
But in the end mileage varies extremely based upon prejudice. *shrug*
No, it doesn't. It's strange that you would think that. I imagine you have not used the software for many years?
The "DRM by default" option (a configured checkbox that was on by default in WMP7 - released five years ago) was changed as of the next release 8 months later (four years ago).
Well, this initiative should pretty well answer the second concern. :)
Check out DropMyRights - should be exactly what you want.
Actually, there's XP Pro N too. Got a copy in my office. :)
Well, just to dispel some potential cynicism-
There's a finite number of people testing/releasing the software. The obvious Killer Download for most users is the player. There's a huge drop-off in interest comparatively when looking at the codec packages, but MS puts them together anyways and ships them when the involved teams sign off on them. There is no other associated cause for delay - they're put on the release treadmill as soon as they are signed off on.
If you're seeing any long delay before a release of stand-alone codecs, then your odds are 90% that it's technical or 10% that it's resource [personnel] contention, and that's about it.
[As you've likely guessed, I do work in the Media group at MS. And as always I'm just speaking for myself.]
^-- That doesn't equate. WMP7.1 has DRM too. Heck, even WMP6 does.
Presumably you were warned that either the taskbar player or the player itself was running during the install. The shell can't unload loaded taskbar binaries instantly, so if you had the taskbar player running, you would end up rebooting. It's a known issue that people are looking at for the future.
:)
Believe me, any reboot caused gets heartily scrutinized and people get shot if the reboots were avoidable. If the reboots weren't avoidable, they still get shot. In either case, the survivors get to write a document proposing how this gets fixed for the future.
The rollback should work fine - what failed for you, or did you not find it? It's under "Show Updates" in the Add/Remove Programs control panel.
Yes, it rolls back. Like WMP9, it sets a System Restore point, but WMP10 also offers a dedicated Add/Remove Programs control panel entry to allow rollback that does not use System Restore.
There's been varying degrees and implementations of update all along in ActiveMovie/NetShow/WMP, but the first main player Auto Upgrade feature as you're likely referring to it was added back in WMP6.1.
Where did you go that you had problems finding it? I usually direct people here. If you lemme know where you were trying to get it from and couldn't find it, I can look into it further...
-Z (I do work for MS, but I'm speaking solely for myself as always)
Which plug-in are you referring to? I thought this change had fixed up most extant issues here... what exactly are you having trouble with?
Various devs worked to make things WORK, not to break things.
-Z (speaking solely for myself, although I do work for MS on the WM team)
Note that WMP6 doesn't handle 'LegacyDisable' properly (and WMP9 uses 'LegacyDisable'), so if you're using WMP9 and want to switch back to WMP6, the steps would be:
:)
Start->Run: wmplayer.exe
Tools:Options:File Types
Uncheck whatever you're changing the association to WMP6 on.
Start->Run: mplayer2.exe
View->Options->Formats
Select all media types you don't play in winamp.
It's probably not too critical, but I thought I'd point it out anyways for the WMP6-lovers.