Actually I was thinking old eastern religions that have been practiced for a long time and still intact. Most religions change with time, because if you set things in stone, and never examine the way the world and belief changes over time, you will end up out of touch. I think your scope of view is too narrow. Just because people are not Christian dosnent mean they are "neo-pagans" (by that I assume you mean wicca). Neo Pagans isnt even a good IMO description because it's way to vague,unless you are trying to group every non christian religion together. It's still not a meaning full description since Shinto is "neo" but Discordian is certainly "neo". Even if european faiths outside of Christianity cant have possibly survived in any form during the events you describe, nothing is stopping people from researching and following whatever faith system they choose to believe. As for little traces, maybe in some parts there are no traces left, but other places much more still exists. Look at the Greeks compared to the Celts you cite above. What means "syncrenistic"? I tried some on-line dictionaries and they didnt have entries.
I fail to see how indexing public shares is in violation of copyright.
I didn't say it was. I'm not going to argue with someone putting words under my fingers.
But in the parent I originaly replied to you did mostly talk about copyright. I see they did 2 things. 1. they wrote the indexing software (afaik all it does is index public shares). 2. they shared copyrighted materials. I see lots of posts associating the indexing utility with the copyright violation. You do respond to this below so lets move on.
Certainly they are responsable for any copyrighted materials they might have been sharing. but the indexing is not.
You guys really need to understand the concept of contributary negligence. If someone is doing something wrong, and you are knowingly helping them to do it when you have a reasonable alternative, then you are also doing something wrong. You may not be guilty of the same crime as them, but what you are doing is still wrong.
Cant it be argued that Google, Microsoft's "Search" on the start menu, and any other index or search application also would be contributary? Heck even browsing my network neighborhood if there is "bad stuff" out there somewhere. I think that had the indexer been only designed to do the mp3 or video files you would have a stronger argument, but AFAIK it indexed everything indescriminant of filetype. Do software authors need to start making tools unable to see audio and video file types because they could "neglegently contribute" to copyright infringment?
What is the "reasonable alternative" in this case?
I suppose you thought the initial amount the RIAA was demanding was fair as well.
No, it was absurd. The fact that I think these kids probably got what they should have known was coming to them does not mean I am a slave to the RIAA, or that I approve of complex monopoly abuse. My point was that there are good ways to do something about that sort of thing and bad ways. These guys went for a bad way, and paid for it. Case closed, next.
Can you tell me a better way to index public network shares that would not in your view be a "bad way"? Farther down someone said they should have had some magic tech that could tell copyrighted works from ok to share works and magically not indexed the copyrighted works. AFAIK right now "there is no magic bit" (I can see the IBM commercial now) on the file formats in use now. We can both agree that the sharing of copyrighted materials was a copyright violation.
This always reminds me of an excange from one of Robert Asprins Myth series.
"A Pervert!" Frumple managed to make the word sound slimy. "That's Pervect if you want to do business with us,"Aahz corrected. "It's Pervert until I see the color of your money," Frumple sneered back.
Skeeve: Who's a clod? Aahz: Easy, kid. Nothing personal. Everyone who's native to this dimension is a Klahd. Klah...Klahds...get it? Skeeve: Well, I don't like the sound of it. Aahz: Relax, kid. What's in a name, anyway? Skeeve: Then it doesn't really matter to you if people call you a Pervect or Pervert? Aahz: Watch your mouth, kid.
I fail to see how indexing public shares is in violation of copyright. Certainly they are responsable for any copyrighted materials they might have been sharing. but the indexing is not. I suppose you thought the initial amount the RIAA was demanding was fair as well. Or how they counted all files indexed weather or not they weer copyrighted as a music file. Do you think 32 40X cd-r drives are actually 1280 cd-r drives?
Try Spirited away. Jsut ripping on a show that has poor animation and expanding that to cover every other form of animation is about as lame as bashing MS in a non MS discussion here on/.
Lemon Goke was actually good. Especially the Diet Lemon Coke. The Lemon helped cover the nasty Nutra Sweet taste that makes me want to spew while drinking diet soda. I wish all nutrasweet was replaced with splends instead.
Reminds me about an old Sierra game based on the Camelot/King Arthur myth. At the start before you go on your quest, you can go into the temple/church and there are alters to the older "pagan" gods/goddesses and also to the "new" Christianity that was starting to displace them. As I recall for the time period it was set in that was about correct, in how Christianity became more popular then the current religions int he area and displaced them. Many old religions still have some followers here and there, and some people looking for answers turn to them as well.
"The Eucharist is mentioned extensively in the New Testament: everywhere St. Paul writes of thanksgiving (eucharist = thanksgiving in Greek). So what if pagans did similar things? They also sacrificed to their false gods, while Abraham, Moses &c. sacrificed to the True God."
One mans true God is anothers false God. It isn't till we die I suppose, that we will know who is correct.
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Actually I was thinking old eastern religions that have been practiced for a long time and still intact. Most religions change with time, because if you set things in stone, and never examine the way the world and belief changes over time, you will end up out of touch.
I think your scope of view is too narrow.
Just because people are not Christian dosnent mean they are "neo-pagans" (by that I assume you mean wicca). Neo Pagans isnt even a good IMO description because it's way to vague,unless you are trying to group every non christian religion together. It's still not a meaning full description since Shinto is "neo" but Discordian is certainly "neo".
Even if european faiths outside of Christianity cant have possibly survived in any form during the events you describe, nothing is stopping people from researching and following whatever faith system they choose to believe.
As for little traces, maybe in some parts there are no traces left, but other places much more still exists. Look at the Greeks compared to the Celts you cite above.
What means "syncrenistic"? I tried some on-line dictionaries and they didnt have entries.
I fail to see how indexing public shares is in violation of copyright.
I didn't say it was. I'm not going to argue with someone putting words under my fingers.
But in the parent I originaly replied to you did mostly talk about copyright. I see they did 2 things. 1. they wrote the indexing software (afaik all it does is index public shares). 2. they shared copyrighted materials. I see lots of posts associating the indexing utility with the copyright violation. You do respond to this below so lets move on.
Certainly they are responsable for any copyrighted materials they might have been sharing. but the indexing is not.
You guys really need to understand the concept of contributary negligence. If someone is doing something wrong, and you are knowingly helping them to do it when you have a reasonable alternative, then you are also doing something wrong. You may not be guilty of the same crime as them, but what you are doing is still wrong.
Cant it be argued that Google, Microsoft's "Search" on the start menu, and any other index or search application also would be contributary?
Heck even browsing my network neighborhood if there is "bad stuff" out there somewhere. I think that had the indexer been only designed to do the mp3 or video files you would have a stronger argument, but AFAIK it indexed everything indescriminant of filetype. Do software authors need to start making tools unable to see audio and video file types because they could "neglegently contribute" to copyright infringment?
What is the "reasonable alternative" in this case?
I suppose you thought the initial amount the RIAA was demanding was fair as well.
No, it was absurd. The fact that I think these kids probably got what they should have known was coming to them does not mean I am a slave to the RIAA, or that I approve of complex monopoly abuse. My point was that there are good ways to do something about that sort of thing and bad ways. These guys went for a bad way, and paid for it. Case closed, next.
Can you tell me a better way to index public network shares that would not in your view be a "bad way"? Farther down someone said they should have had some magic tech that could tell copyrighted works from ok to share works and magically not indexed the copyrighted works. AFAIK right now "there is no magic bit" (I can see the IBM commercial now) on the file formats in use now.
We can both agree that the sharing of copyrighted materials was a copyright violation.
Ever since I was a young boy
I played the silver ball
From Soho down to Brighton
I must have played them all
Wow rock and roll does teach you something.
But Enterprise is no where near the Yamato rip-off that Crusade.
He did.
This always reminds me of an excange from one of Robert Asprins Myth series.
"A Pervert!" Frumple managed to make the word sound slimy.
"That's Pervect if you want to do business with us,"Aahz corrected.
"It's Pervert until I see the color of your money," Frumple sneered back.
Skeeve: Who's a clod?
Aahz: Easy, kid. Nothing personal. Everyone who's native to this dimension is a Klahd. Klah...Klahds...get it?
Skeeve: Well, I don't like the sound of it.
Aahz: Relax, kid. What's in a name, anyway?
Skeeve: Then it doesn't really matter to you if people call you a Pervect or Pervert?
Aahz: Watch your mouth, kid.
I dunno, he did try to pitch Bab5 as a Trek series back in the past.
To me it seemed the Cogenitors would rule the society if they were not kept dumb and subserviant.
Crusade seemed way to much like Star Blazers (Space Battle Ship Yamato).
I fail to see how indexing public shares is in violation of copyright.
Certainly they are responsable for any copyrighted materials they might have been sharing. but the indexing is not.
I suppose you thought the initial amount the RIAA was demanding was fair as well.
Or how they counted all files indexed weather or not they weer copyrighted as a music file.
Do you think 32 40X cd-r drives are actually 1280 cd-r drives?
Also available for the Dreamcast for those who might dislike Sony.
You might want to brush up on your classic fairy tales before you try too many more KQ games.
You can run into a grue in wishbringer.
Wishbringer had a few referances to other Infocom interactive fiction titles.
SBC swallowed Ameritech as well. They control Michigan and Ohio now. dunno what other states Ameritech had under it's thumb.
Sadly bayblade is anime. However, just count it as part of the 90% of crap anime and go watch better stuff.
Watch "Whispers of the heart" and tell me about framerates again.
1st series of Batman: TAS was animated by one of the top anime studios in Japan.
Try Spirited away. /.
Jsut ripping on a show that has poor animation and expanding that to cover every other form of animation is about as lame as bashing MS in a non MS discussion here on
Zim was on Nick not Cartoon Network.
Whiz kids was early 80's I thought. Or am I thinking of that one detective show withthe boat and the robot? "Riptide" I think it was called.
Yes it was.
Lemon Goke was actually good.
Especially the Diet Lemon Coke. The Lemon helped cover the nasty Nutra Sweet taste that makes me want to spew while drinking diet soda.
I wish all nutrasweet was replaced with splends instead.
Reminds me about an old Sierra game based on the Camelot/King Arthur myth.
At the start before you go on your quest, you can go into the temple/church and there are alters to the older "pagan" gods/goddesses and also to the "new" Christianity that was starting to displace them.
As I recall for the time period it was set in that was about correct, in how Christianity became more popular then the current religions int he area and displaced them.
Many old religions still have some followers here and there, and some people looking for answers turn to them as well.
Maybe a site like this could provide some more useful and referanced links/data.
"The Eucharist is mentioned extensively in the New Testament: everywhere St. Paul writes of thanksgiving (eucharist = thanksgiving in Greek). So what if pagans did similar things? They also sacrificed to their false gods, while Abraham, Moses &c. sacrificed to the True God."
One mans true God is anothers false God. It isn't till we die I suppose, that we will know who is correct.