Had you bothered to watch any of the episodes after those 2 you could have had a lot of enjoyable entertainment. Suffering through the end of the temporal cold war crap was worth it.
UPN is in roughly 60% of markets and often broadcasts sports prempting enterprise. Sci-Fi channel is AFAIK basic service channel on all cable/satilite stations. I'd say at best they have near identical numbers, or frankly I think Sci-Fi has a much larger audience so if Enterprise is getting numbers close to Sci-Fi considering all that I am impressed.
The nazi time travel episodes of season 4 (I think there is 2 of them) are used to jettison the WHOLE temporal cold war thing and clean up for the rest of season 4 goodness. Keep watching it only gets better.
Why the fuck do our campaigns last 9 months? Seriously, there is no good reason. I say give em no more then 2 months. Too much god damn time is wasted and our lives are too important for them to use up a year on that shit.
Now thats not true, sure he made a boatload of cash from DB, DBZ, and it's ilk. If you bother (most never do) to look past that we have his character designs from things like Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior (kick ass monster stuff), Dr. Slump, and a number of other items. Check out some of his non DB* related artwork.
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I agree, there are 12 types of Cylon^H^H^H^H^H PS2,sure they aahve the same basic chips, but those changes probably can affect how a game might run. Looking at how some PSX games dont.
I think it would have been nice if there was some way they could have had the outdoor scenes a little more GTA like, but that would require llarger cityscapes (more believable IMO).
So far outside of the initial mini series (I have missed a few episodes) have we seen the new shiny cylons do anything worthy of your "but they're far more deadly. They move with malevolent grace, they have weaponry and evil-looking talons. They are actually things to be feared, and that should count for a lot in a bad guy. I'll take genuine menace over cool chrome any day." praise?
Have they genuinely menaced anything? Sure the old ones were about as effective as Storm Troopers but they are still cool.
I still cant understand why the good doctor does not order up a 55 gallon drum of KY and explain that he has the only reliable cylon detection system in his pants and would Adama please bend over. I mean it's a tough job, but I think he is randy enough of a guy to do it. Afterwards he can write a book about it like Wilt Chamberlain did.
I clearly have offended some pretentious film types (or people who play them on slashdot) so I would like to say I used BWP as an extreme example of intentional bad camera work.
I guess my response to Leo says most of what I want to say, so no sense repeating it. If you want, read it and maybe that clears up some things.
I would like to apologize for any spelling mistakes in the response to Leo as I forgot to use this new spell check plugin on it. What I get for not clicking on Preview.
Wow you are amazing! Able to know my entire educational history from a simple/. posting. You seem to ignore whole eras of film making in your "history that it took so much energy to explain to me" (this comment is in response to your lament in another post).
I think the problem is how we view documentary films. I am used to documentary films being shot like what I grew up watching (My parents encouraged a lot of PBS viewing when I was a child). You aparently only watch documentary films from the era of electric film cameras. You forgot to mention all the film tech previous to that, where hand cranked film was used, so you could film anywhere without electricity.
I never said that no documentary film looks like the average episode of Cops (I think it probably counts as a documentary) or NYPD blue, I said most did not. This is going by my obviously biased and imperfect sampling of documentary films. Note I have not watched any Micheal More or other recent contraversial documentary films, so I cant say how they film.
My criticism about it being a fad is that I believe that BSG would not being doing the drunken cameraman act if the following 3 shows had not: Firefly NYPD Blue One of the Law and Order spinoff shows whose name escapes me To me the way people are using it now is a fad, using it simply to use it because it supposedly adds a layer of "reality" (more like nausia), not because it's the apropriate way to film that scene. Would you buy porn show that badly?
Last I would like to say that these shows exagerate the effect of "documentary filming" to the point of sillyness. Just because it's not steadycam does not mean you cant quickly focus in on something without overfocusing badly, or you have to film people walking up the street at a 45 degree angle. I agree with other posters in other threads that the style works well for space battles and exterior stuff. I think it works less well for interior and dramatic shots. I am not a great cameraman but I can hold a camera steady and in focus better then these guys can. So either they are doing it intentionally as directed or they suck.
To your "explanation of camera history" (it's kinda sparse so you did not use that much time). Please see my response.
The reason I replied to your post was about the whole post. How can it be a visual plot device (meaning it's essential to the plot) but be "not real, TV magic" Maybe I don't get what you mean but it seems a lot like the "I don't have to explain 33 because that would be technobabble thing. I view it as an anti-technobabble technobabble that does IN MY VIEW leave some holes that you need explained (more then just the why 33 issue, I agree with other posters about cylons drinking too much rolling rock). Your Mileage Obviously Varied. To me it looks like they are shying away from any technical explanation or science in things and calling attempts at such "technobabble". It's only technobabble when it does not mean anything or explain anything in a meaningful way.
As for the troll bit, I am a fan of both BSG shows, I am more critical of this new one, because frankly the old one is a dead horse and back in the 80's everyone got in about every useful or useless criticism I can think of. Another reason I tend to be a bit sarcastic is I am also a fan of enterprise, and I got a bit pissed off by morons who couldn't keep the BSG fanboyism out of the last few months of Enterprise stories. I'm not saying BSG should not be mentioned in discussion, but most people simply were in there to bash Enterprise and only say BSG is bestest ebber.
I think I see what you are getting at, in comparrison to the the original series. Personally I have found the new show to beat you over the head with things a bit much, I notice what I think is unsubtle isn't anything you talk about above.
The writing and way story develops is Bloodlines is probably the best I've seen in a few years. The design of having different paths to complete a quest is refreshing in todays often liner game offerings. The quality of the above (I'm not a VtM fan) was almost enough for me of overlook the terrible show stopping bugs, incomplete dialog teres, broken quests and other issues that show the game was squezed out six months early as opposed to being polished like the gem it was. I can remember when Activision or EA games didnt need patches and were not released nearly unplayable.
He does have apoint about viewer levels IMO. Enterprise, on a network that isnt even carried in all markets (someone said about 60% of all non cable markets get UPN) and is often bumped or ditched for sports manages t get nearly as many viewers as BSG, and BSG in on all cable/satilite networks, many as a basic chanel. I would have thouhgt it would be doing twice as good.
Yah, Monk is frankly a better show then anyting else, even this new BSG. I'f only I didnt have to see commercials for that shit wast of time 24. IT makes my brain hurt the plot the acting...
Except the "new" shiny cylons with the red eye look like ass. Way to "improve" the series. They remind me way too much of star wars props now instead of a mechanical menace bent on the destruction of human kind. Frankly the old centurion design is still way cool. Even the cylon fighters were a fairly cool design for the 70's.
Most of the LD funds I have seen talked about on/. have not gone the way of loki torrent. I think it was expected (considering how much copyright violation was going on) and I did not contribute to lokitorrent.
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Had you bothered to watch any of the episodes after those 2 you could have had a lot of enjoyable entertainment.
Suffering through the end of the temporal cold war crap was worth it.
UPN is in roughly 60% of markets and often broadcasts sports prempting enterprise.
Sci-Fi channel is AFAIK basic service channel on all cable/satilite stations.
I'd say at best they have near identical numbers, or frankly I think Sci-Fi has a much larger audience so if Enterprise is getting numbers close to Sci-Fi considering all that I am impressed.
The nazi time travel episodes of season 4 (I think there is 2 of them) are used to jettison the WHOLE temporal cold war thing and clean up for the rest of season 4 goodness. Keep watching it only gets better.
Why the fuck do our campaigns last 9 months? Seriously, there is no good reason. I say give em no more then 2 months.
Too much god damn time is wasted and our lives are too important for them to use up a year on that shit.
Now thats not true, sure he made a boatload of cash from DB, DBZ, and it's ilk. If you bother (most never do) to look past that we have his character designs from things like Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior (kick ass monster stuff), Dr. Slump, and a number of other items. Check out some of his non DB* related artwork.
Wait, I know! Pain. errr wrong box.
I agree, there are 12 types of Cylon^H^H^H^H^H PS2 ,sure they aahve the same basic chips, but those changes probably can affect how a game might run. Looking at how some PSX games dont.
I think it would have been nice if there was some way they could have had the outdoor scenes a little more GTA like, but that would require llarger cityscapes (more believable IMO).
I don't think they look "worse" I think they don't inspire the some "cool" factor the old ones did.
So far outside of the initial mini series (I have missed a few episodes) have we seen the new shiny cylons do anything worthy of your "but they're far more deadly. They move with malevolent grace, they have weaponry and evil-looking talons. They are actually things to be feared, and that should count for a lot in a bad guy. I'll take genuine menace over cool chrome any day." praise?
Have they genuinely menaced anything?
Sure the old ones were about as effective as Storm Troopers but they are still cool.
I still cant understand why the good doctor does not order up a 55 gallon drum of KY and explain that he has the only reliable cylon detection system in his pants and would Adama please bend over. I mean it's a tough job, but I think he is randy enough of a guy to do it. Afterwards he can write a book about it like Wilt Chamberlain did.
I clearly have offended some pretentious film types (or people who play them on slashdot) so I would like to say I used BWP as an extreme example of intentional bad camera work.
I guess my response to Leo says most of what I want to say, so no sense repeating it. If you want, read it and maybe that clears up some things.
I would like to apologize for any spelling mistakes in the response to Leo as I forgot to use this new spell check plugin on it. What I get for not clicking on Preview.
Wow you are amazing! Able to know my entire educational history from a simple /. posting. You seem to ignore whole eras of film making in your "history that it took so much energy to explain to me" (this comment is in response to your lament in another post).
I think the problem is how we view documentary films. I am used to documentary films being shot like what I grew up watching (My parents encouraged a lot of PBS viewing when I was a child). You aparently only watch documentary films from the era of electric film cameras.
You forgot to mention all the film tech previous to that, where hand cranked film was used, so you could film anywhere without electricity.
I never said that no documentary film looks like the average episode of Cops (I think it probably counts as a documentary) or NYPD blue, I said most did not. This is going by my obviously biased and imperfect sampling of documentary films. Note I have not watched any Micheal More or other recent contraversial documentary films, so I cant say how they film.
My criticism about it being a fad is that I believe that BSG would not being doing the drunken cameraman act if the following 3 shows had not:
Firefly
NYPD Blue
One of the Law and Order spinoff shows whose name escapes me
To me the way people are using it now is a fad, using it simply to use it because it supposedly adds a layer of "reality" (more like nausia), not because it's the apropriate way to film that scene. Would you buy porn show that badly?
Last I would like to say that these shows exagerate the effect of "documentary filming" to the point of sillyness. Just because it's not steadycam does not mean you cant quickly focus in on something without overfocusing badly, or you have to film people walking up the street at a 45 degree angle. I agree with other posters in other threads that the style works well for space battles and exterior stuff. I think it works less well for interior and dramatic shots. I am not a great cameraman but I can hold a camera steady and in focus better then these guys can. So either they are doing it intentionally as directed or they suck.
To your "explanation of camera history" (it's kinda sparse so you did not use that much time). Please see my response.
The reason I replied to your post was about the whole post. How can it be a visual plot device (meaning it's essential to the plot) but be "not real, TV magic" Maybe I don't get what you mean but it seems a lot like the "I don't have to explain 33 because that would be technobabble thing. I view it as an anti-technobabble technobabble that does IN MY VIEW leave some holes that you need explained (more then just the why 33 issue, I agree with other posters about cylons drinking too much rolling rock). Your Mileage Obviously Varied. To me it looks like they are shying away from any technical explanation or science in things and calling attempts at such "technobabble". It's only technobabble when it does not mean anything or explain anything in a meaningful way.
As for the troll bit, I am a fan of both BSG shows, I am more critical of this new one, because frankly the old one is a dead horse and back in the 80's everyone got in about every useful or useless criticism I can think of. Another reason I tend to be a bit sarcastic is I am also a fan of enterprise, and I got a bit pissed off by morons who couldn't keep the BSG fanboyism out of the last few months of Enterprise stories. I'm not saying BSG should not be mentioned in discussion, but most people simply were in there to bash Enterprise and only say BSG is bestest ebber.
I think I see what you are getting at, in comparrison to the the original series.
Personally I have found the new show to beat you over the head with things a bit much, I notice what I think is unsubtle isn't anything you talk about above.
The writing and way story develops is Bloodlines is probably the best I've seen in a few years. The design of having different paths to complete a quest is refreshing in todays often liner game offerings.
The quality of the above (I'm not a VtM fan) was almost enough for me of overlook the terrible show stopping bugs, incomplete dialog teres, broken quests and other issues that show the game was squezed out six months early as opposed to being polished like the gem it was.
I can remember when Activision or EA games didnt need patches and were not released nearly unplayable.
He does have apoint about viewer levels IMO.
Enterprise, on a network that isnt even carried in all markets (someone said about 60% of all non cable markets get UPN) and is often bumped or ditched for sports manages t get nearly as many viewers as BSG, and BSG in on all cable/satilite networks, many as a basic chanel.
I would have thouhgt it would be doing twice as good.
So this is some more the that un-technobabble they supposedly are not using so they dont have to explain all the gaping plot holes.
Don't any of you realize that EVERYONE IS A CYLON!!!!1
Yah, Monk is frankly a better show then anyting else, even this new BSG. I'f only I didnt have to see commercials for that shit wast of time 24. IT makes my brain hurt the plot the acting...
Most documentary I have seen has not had the blair witch effect going on. This is some new found fad.
Except the "new" shiny cylons with the red eye look like ass. Way to "improve" the series. They remind me way too much of star wars props now instead of a mechanical menace bent on the destruction of human kind.
Frankly the old centurion design is still way cool. Even the cylon fighters were a fairly cool design for the 70's.
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Should have called her Clarice
" The greatest thing about this new series is how subtle the entire show is."
So far IMO the show is anything but subtle, or maybe you mean something different from what I think you mean.
WOW they suck at facts.
ATI AFAIK does not make the PS2 vid hardware, they do own the company that designed the Gamecubes video processor.
Most of the LD funds I have seen talked about on /. have not gone the way of loki torrent. I think it was expected (considering how much copyright violation was going on) and I did not contribute to lokitorrent.