Zero day eh? Oh or several weeks whichever. You know lets assume it wasn't dicovered weeks ago by "mangle me" or some other tool. It seems kinda ironic that a microsoft prod of all things is using a "warez" scene term to describe a vul. Besides there are dozens of identical vuls out there people are ignoring, it would take very little effort to change to a different vul for new variants. When will virus creators lean that they need more! Backs doors are old. God forbid if they focus on a random sample of vulnerabilities...Muhahahahha. (muahahhahaha)
Yes, I consider data being passed from server to client DOWNLOADING when it is saved to a temporary file. It kinda FITS THE DEFINITION EXECTLY.
A remote vulnerability requires that is it COMPLETLY exploitable remotely. None of the new "remote vulnerabilities are" they all require some kind of social engineering to get the user to visit some www site download a file and run it. Thats a fucking joke. Thats not a remote vul. A romote vul is REMOTE and requires no user interaction. Thats my fucking problem.
Has anyone else noticed how everything is now classified as remote? For the zip one you have to download the file and then attempt to unzip it. THATS NOT REMOTE. You downloaded it and then got exploited. Its running local context! Its local! Remote for example would be the NNTP. Where a remote user directly exploits you without any user interaction.
I extend this classification to the GDI vuls. They are downloaded and then rendered by windows. Why should it matter that its not an executable file. From an 3rd party perspective it looks the exect same as someone downloading and running a trojan. It shouldn't matter how clever they are in hiding the execution or downloading of the file, if it runs in local context its LOCAL. Fuck i'm so tired of seeing remote vul tacked on to everything.
oh i can see it now..The tooth fairy has really been in cahoots with osama and santa has been hideing the wmd for sadam. Bush will decide we need to stop santa's reign of terror before its too late (dec-25, when their intel says "something big will happen").
Call me crazy but who wants microsoft software to have anymore to do with their bios..Watch, within a month or two "a virus protection feature" will become an antipiracy/linux feature..
Not to mention the linux people will have to start on a new bluescreen screensaver...
This is getting ridiculous. We should enjoy these stories people! I mean serously any day now people have to start seeing this. How many people can honestly beleive that microsoft just happened to give money to all these companies giving linux shit? Why the hell don't they spend that money on more proficent coders?? FUD only works to a point..I wish the media would see this and go after ms. Its almost like they're being anticompetitive or something...oh wait jackasses yes thats it jackasses.
Well guys I have to say i'm suprised. I thought slashdot would take a more objective approach to this. I've had ADD since i was itty biddy but I was never diagnosed until my freshman year of college.
I have to say I'm stunned that some of you are questing if its even a real illness. I admit, it is overly diagnosed but that does not have any effect on the reality of the disease. The problem is people will learn to cope faster (and better probably) if they catch the disease at an early age, so of corse they look..and they find anyone who might possibly match (or dont..we've all seen dateline) the criteria. Still it seems to me you guys are compareing two seperate things. On one hand the fact that its over diagnosed in children, OF CORSE IT IS! Look at the symptoms it fits 90% of children! Its up to dr's and the kids parents to decide if they really have it or not. But how you can then go to question if its even a real disease! Common!!
My experience goes a little like this..I've always been very "active" running around never staying in the same place. Even back with my apple IIGS the mesermizing flashing colors and lights were the only thing that could keep my attention. It is a disease. I remember being able to spend hours and hours in front of a computer learning about linux from 2am-8am (not everyday, but as often as possible heh) back in middle school. MIDDLE SCHOOL! I couldn't "study" a book it was almost impossible for me. Yet I could spend hours in front of something with buttons and colors and the time would just disappar, this is the "hyperconcentration" many add suffers will talk about. We tend to just plop down in front of something we enjoy and then well..death fire floods nothing can get us away.
I think the only reason I managed to get though highschool without being diagnosed was luck. I mean I just never had to study to pass. I would always get in trouble at school for talking and whatnot, but never anything serious (another sign..trouble..but not like stabbing people trouble heh) When college started, being a cs major, i HAD to study. It didn't seem to matter how much I sat down and tried to study my brain just wouldn't work. It was like he was fighting me, a thousand things would zoom though my head every 10 seconds none of with had to do with the finer points of lisp. One day i was talking to my mom and she told me my dad had recently been diagnosed as severe (I just thought he was a weird engeneer..but man..hes like the adhd poster dude)
Needless to say i went to the dr and tried some medications. Oh my god was there a difference. It was like somone washed off my brain and now everything was getting though! I went from a C to an A adverage in almost all my classes. For me at least, adderol was a life saver. I'd probably still be writting tons of odd little unrelated linux utils without it;P
The problem is they think that they are loosing money from the commercials we skip. They don't realize that most of us (pvr users..) view commercials as just another crappy imposed spam that we are forced to deal with. They're going to bitch and moan, suprise suprise.., because they think their loosing profits and what not when the simple fact of the matter is they won't. It seems like every biz nowadays is trying to blame some new innovation for loss in profits this quarter intead of realizing that ITS A DEPRESSION (slight though..) enhanced by their own ignorance of the new coming tech toys. I also don't understand how they can say watching more tv is a bad thing, but I can see it from their pov..kinda..They just need to realize they should embrace the new stuff! Not fight it..I can't figure out how these companies think they can bully everyone and win in the long haul. Their ignorance is simply amazing. The sheer fact that (with my blessed tivo heh) an hour program is only ~45 mins is silly. Some half-hour shows are only like 15mins or less! They need to quit focusing so much on profits and rethink their primary business models..
Hi,
As a former tivo beta testor, you might think that i'm a bit biased..well..I am. But for good reason, tivo kicks ass!! I was a high school senor when I got my first tivo, misprised for $49 (instead of $499 haha) I think i must have had my little guardian angle with me that day because let me tell you, a tivo is a life changing experience. I remember back in the dark ages when I used to plan to watch tv("simpsons is on at 7!") YOU DO NOT NEED TO! The not only does the tivo get stuff for you (by seasons, reruns, new episodes, or whatever) but depending on what you rank shows it'll pick new ones for you!! Basically any time you want to watch something you'll have like 5 shows (probably more..) waiting.
Now I know what your thinking..But wasted, the tivo drive is so incredably tiny! Those big ones cost hundreds extra! Not so my son. Thanks to the guys at tivo being badasses they actually MAKE IT EASY to mod your tivo! Not only that, but they won't try to have you arrested(MY GOSH WHAT A NEW IDEA!!)
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/ here you go kids ^ all your info in one handy place. I moded mine to 130 gigs with extra ram ( heh..be careful too much space on the series 1 can make it a bit laggy if you have oodles of season passes like me..the series 2 fixes this with a faster processor)
Ok..Now for blatent honesty. I admit, the best part about being a tivo owner is never having to watch commercials. I haven't had to sit though some random chick talking about that not so fresh feeling at dinner in years. Fast foward is the best thing since sliced bread. Shows end up being about 20-30% shorter, so watching them serously changes timeframes. Like i can watch 2 episdoes of stargate in about an hour an a half heh..
Ok thats it! I'm telling you guys. If a poor college kid is telling you its worth it..well..it is...I'm living on just about 0 income, and if i didn't have a tivo i'd still find a way to buy one. Its that big of a deal. My computer and my tivo..Its like asking a dad to choose between his kids. Poor old computer..I'd hurt her feelings if i answered..Its worth it guys. I'm telling you!! At least go get one and return it if you don't like it hehe..(you get a month free service..)
thanks for your time wasted
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I really liked this book. I thought it had just the right mix of technical detail. I believe his other book "Rebel Code" is more about the kernel specificially. As far as an autobiography goes I think this book hit its mark dead on. Overall, A very good book. Go buy it.
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Zero day eh? Oh or several weeks whichever. You know lets assume it wasn't dicovered weeks ago by "mangle me" or some other tool. It seems kinda ironic that a microsoft prod of all things is using a "warez" scene term to describe a vul. Besides there are dozens of identical vuls out there people are ignoring, it would take very little effort to change to a different vul for new variants. When will virus creators lean that they need more! Backs doors are old. God forbid if they focus on a random sample of vulnerabilities...Muhahahahha. (muahahhahaha)
Yes, I consider data being passed from server to client DOWNLOADING when it is saved to a temporary file. It kinda FITS THE DEFINITION EXECTLY.
A remote vulnerability requires that is it COMPLETLY exploitable remotely. None of the new "remote vulnerabilities are" they all require some kind of social engineering to get the user to visit some www site download a file and run it. Thats a fucking joke. Thats not a remote vul. A romote vul is REMOTE and requires no user interaction. Thats my fucking problem.
Yes damn you. Don't you know how that works. For fucks sake. YOU DOWNLOAD IT THEN IT RUNS. Get a virus scanner. ITS NOT A REMOTE VUL.
Ahem. RTFM{1000}
Has anyone else noticed how everything is now classified as remote? For the zip one you have to download the file and then attempt to unzip it. THATS NOT REMOTE. You downloaded it and then got exploited. Its running local context! Its local! Remote for example would be the NNTP. Where a remote user directly exploits you without any user interaction.
I extend this classification to the GDI vuls. They are downloaded and then rendered by windows. Why should it matter that its not an executable file. From an 3rd party perspective it looks the exect same as someone downloading and running a trojan. It shouldn't matter how clever they are in hiding the execution or downloading of the file, if it runs in local context its LOCAL.
Fuck i'm so tired of seeing remote vul tacked on to everything.
me too..People should be glad he was honest with them. Not everything makes it into the final product, but its cool to know what he considered.
Its IE OPTIMIZED!
well i dont think its always IBM..but yes i agree..seems like sco always gets to wiggle away and file more crap..
oh i can see it now..The tooth fairy has really been in cahoots with osama and santa has been hideing the wmd for sadam. Bush will decide we need to stop santa's reign of terror before its too late (dec-25, when their intel says "something big will happen").
Thank god. Maybe everyone is listening to what they are actually saying for a change...
Call me crazy but who wants microsoft software to have anymore to do with their bios..Watch, within a month or two "a virus protection feature" will become an antipiracy/linux feature..
Not to mention the linux people will have to start on a new bluescreen screensaver...
brag brag brag. I got dos and turbo c!
It snowed every day too
This is getting ridiculous. We should enjoy these stories people! I mean serously any day now people have to start seeing this. How many people can honestly beleive that microsoft just happened to give money to all these companies giving linux shit? Why the hell don't they spend that money on more proficent coders?? FUD only works to a point ..I wish the media would see this and go after ms. Its almost like they're being anticompetitive or something...oh wait jackasses yes thats it jackasses.
unless companies decide to shrink their profit margin a little. *gasp*
Looks like every should have a good new years resolution this year heh.
Its coming on CN soon..I think the ad said 20 something check your tivos
What a suprise..When will companies learn that lawsuits are not the best way to deal with new technology...
Well guys I have to say i'm suprised. I thought slashdot would take a more objective approach to this. I've had ADD since i was itty biddy but I was never diagnosed until my freshman year of college. ;P
I have to say I'm stunned that some of you are questing if its even a real illness. I admit, it is overly diagnosed but that does not have any effect on the reality of the disease. The problem is people will learn to cope faster (and better probably) if they catch the disease at an early age, so of corse they look..and they find anyone who might possibly match (or dont..we've all seen dateline) the criteria. Still it seems to me you guys are compareing two seperate things. On one hand the fact that its over diagnosed in children, OF CORSE IT IS! Look at the symptoms it fits 90% of children! Its up to dr's and the kids parents to decide if they really have it or not. But how you can then go to question if its even a real disease! Common!!
My experience goes a little like this..I've always been very "active" running around never staying in the same place. Even back with my apple IIGS the mesermizing flashing colors and lights were the only thing that could keep my attention. It is a disease. I remember being able to spend hours and hours in front of a computer learning about linux from 2am-8am (not everyday, but as often as possible heh) back in middle school. MIDDLE SCHOOL! I couldn't "study" a book it was almost impossible for me. Yet I could spend hours in front of something with buttons and colors and the time would just disappar, this is the "hyperconcentration" many add suffers will talk about. We tend to just plop down in front of something we enjoy and then well..death fire floods nothing can get us away.
I think the only reason I managed to get though highschool without being diagnosed was luck. I mean I just never had to study to pass. I would always get in trouble at school for talking and whatnot, but never anything serious (another sign..trouble..but not like stabbing people trouble heh) When college started, being a cs major, i HAD to study. It didn't seem to matter how much I sat down and tried to study my brain just wouldn't work. It was like he was fighting me, a thousand things would zoom though my head every 10 seconds none of with had to do with the finer points of lisp. One day i was talking to my mom and she told me my dad had recently been diagnosed as severe (I just thought he was a weird engeneer..but man..hes like the adhd poster dude)
Needless to say i went to the dr and tried some medications. Oh my god was there a difference. It was like somone washed off my brain and now everything was getting though! I went from a C to an A adverage in almost all my classes. For me at least, adderol was a life saver. I'd probably still be writting tons of odd little unrelated linux utils without it
ps. Flaming is bad mm k
why bother with 32mb? I mean geeze if you going though all that trouble may as make one worthwhile
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c++ is my sword
beer is my shield
Man and they just missed christmas..
just the first one was..Kinda like the first one's free..
1) I imagine there are also non-americans
2) Never!
The problem is they think that they are loosing money from the commercials we skip. They don't realize that most of us (pvr users..) view commercials as just another crappy imposed spam that we are forced to deal with. They're going to bitch and moan, suprise suprise.., because they think their loosing profits and what not when the simple fact of the matter is they won't. It seems like every biz nowadays is trying to blame some new innovation for loss in profits this quarter intead of realizing that ITS A DEPRESSION (slight though..) enhanced by their own ignorance of the new coming tech toys. I also don't understand how they can say watching more tv is a bad thing, but I can see it from their pov..kinda..They just need to realize they should embrace the new stuff! Not fight it..I can't figure out how these companies think they can bully everyone and win in the long haul. Their ignorance is simply amazing. The sheer fact that (with my blessed tivo heh) an hour program is only ~45 mins is silly. Some half-hour shows are only like 15mins or less! They need to quit focusing so much on profits and rethink their primary business models..
Hi,
As a former tivo beta testor, you might think that i'm a bit biased..well..I am. But for good reason, tivo kicks ass!! I was a high school senor when I got my first tivo, misprised for $49 (instead of $499 haha) I think i must have had my little guardian angle with me that day because let me tell you, a tivo is a life changing experience. I remember back in the dark ages when I used to plan to watch tv("simpsons is on at 7!") YOU DO NOT NEED TO! The not only does the tivo get stuff for you (by seasons, reruns, new episodes, or whatever) but depending on what you rank shows it'll pick new ones for you!! Basically any time you want to watch something you'll have like 5 shows (probably more..) waiting.
Now I know what your thinking..But wasted, the tivo drive is so incredably tiny! Those big ones cost hundreds extra! Not so my son. Thanks to the guys at tivo being badasses they actually MAKE IT EASY to mod your tivo! Not only that, but they won't try to have you arrested(MY GOSH WHAT A NEW IDEA!!)
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/
here you go kids ^ all your info in one handy place. I moded mine to 130 gigs with extra ram ( heh..be careful too much space on the series 1 can make it a bit laggy if you have oodles of season passes like me..the series 2 fixes this with a faster processor)
Ok..Now for blatent honesty. I admit, the best part about being a tivo owner is never having to watch commercials. I haven't had to sit though some random chick talking about that not so fresh feeling at dinner in years. Fast foward is the best thing since sliced bread. Shows end up being about 20-30% shorter, so watching them serously changes timeframes. Like i can watch 2 episdoes of stargate in about an hour an a half heh..
Ok thats it! I'm telling you guys. If a poor college kid is telling you its worth it..well..it is...I'm living on just about 0 income, and if i didn't have a tivo i'd still find a way to buy one. Its that big of a deal. My computer and my tivo..Its like asking a dad to choose between his kids. Poor old computer..I'd hurt her feelings if i answered..Its worth it guys. I'm telling you!! At least go get one and return it if you don't like it hehe..(you get a month free service..)
thanks for your time
wasted
I really liked this book. I thought it had just the right mix of technical detail. I believe his other book "Rebel Code" is more about the kernel specificially. As far as an autobiography goes I think this book hit its mark dead on. Overall, A very good book. Go buy it.