While it sounds really cool to blame the corporations, the real problem is the fact that Joe Average, US citizen extraordinaire, doesn't give a rat's ass about what kind of job the guy he voted for (if he voted) is doing. He only voted for him because he promised to do something that benefited him, not if the politician's ideas would benefit the country.
Joe really doesn't care about what the government does, until the boot comes down thanks to some ridiculous law. Then he'll whine and complain, maybe post on/. but at the end of the day, he goes about his business and votes for the same sort of dope that he whined about when he got screwed. So few actually contribute to a cause, call their congressman, take the day off work to show up at his office and demand an answer that it's no wonder the corps seem to run the show- they actually pay folks to explain their position to the government.
That article makes me even happier about my decision. Your linked article states that the rich got poorer under Bush. So much for the "tax cuts for the rich" mantra Kerry loves to spout. I don't think keeping mainstream america solvent is a bad thing.
relevent quote: "The report said the sharpest drops were in both the number and the earnings of people with the highest incomes. Those with incomes of $10 million or more saw average income fall 22 percent, while the number of returns reporting incomes at that level fell 53 percent during the two year period.
Meanwhile the average income of those filing returns with incomes between $25,000 and $500,000 saw the average income little changed, somewhere between a 0.1 percent decline and a 0.2 percent gain, depending upon the income category, the Times said."
Yup, what does anyone expect? First/.ers were happy as a clam that Microsoft (previously ignored by the feds) took one up the tailpipe. Now that Microsoft's realized that they HAVE to play the game, and have decided to play it to win, folks are unhappy that the government is actually following the stupid rules that US citizens allowed, forgetting that the same stupid rules were some of the ones they were cheering for when they went against Microsoft.
I agree with you about Bush appointing unqualified advisors. However the vote isn't George Bush vs George Washington, it's Bush vs. Kerry, a man who has to ask you what you would like for an answer before he makes up his mind on any issue, and is a member of the party that passsed the DMCA. I seriously doubt he would choose any differently. I think that no/. vote should go for a Democrat even if you don't want to vote for Bush.
As far as Bush losing jobs and dollars, I don't know how much I believe that. I've heard that and the opposite from various news outlets. I do know that every time taxes are cut, the economy grows.
Those of us charging to customize, support and sell MS products must have phantom jobs, 'cause I'm getting paid by someone. While it's ok to sell free software, you also have to provide the source code to whatever modifications you have made. The intention of the GNU project and the GPL is to cause more open source software to be written. That's not a bad thing. It's just not my companies goal. I don't think that OSS puts people out of work, neither do I think that regularly licensed software, distributed for free puts people out of work.
No the Uni should prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. They knew exactly what they were doing and that it was wrong. If they wanted to experiment then either take a networking course or build a lan themselves.
As far as "fostering an open environment" goes, if they had, even accidentally, managed to screw up the NFS mount hat you had your thesis on (and lets say you aren't exactly technical, say an MBA-so forget backups) you'd be demanding a revival of crucifiction. No-one should be allowed to break the rules without repercussions that should (hopefully) make you think twice about doing it.
by CdBee (742846) on Monday July 12, @12:12PM (#9675595)
This is interesting.
For a while now I have used some OSS-community applications on my Windows 2000 Office desktop by running binaries compiled under the Cygwin Linux environment on Windows.
the concept of having a Linux application which could be compiled under Windows from the same codebase (subject to dependencies and X-server requirements being met) may be very appealing to the Opensource groups who have been issuing software tor Mac OSX by this method for some time.
I also wonder if this is intended to give Windows more access to certain Scientific/Media computing markets which are dominated by *nix systems (industrial renderfarms, for instance). Either way, I can only see this as a good thing.
That's one of the primary drivers behind the development of SFU. One of the other cool things you can do with SFU is compile that *nix app and register it as a com component. This allows the rapid development of simple interfaces for some complex *nix tools.
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 11, @04:54PM (#9668926)
The problem is that volunteer work would cause widespread unemployment if it became popular enough. If there were millions of people willing to volunteer for jobs like electrician, plumber, carpenter and they were qualified it would be very difficult for people to find paid work in these fields. The difference is that one volunteer electrician only makes one paid electrician unemployed, while on the other hand, one open source developer has the potential to put hundreds of developers out of work.
In a capitalist economy open source software would cause the collapse of the programming industry if it became popular. The only thing saving us now is the fact that Open Source sucks and few people are willing to use an inferior product, even for free.
Exactly- and the part of the reason that we have unions now. I would really hate it if the software industry started to form unions.
This usually happens when folks transistion from Unix to windows and don't replace teh staff with windows savy IT staff. In general your workload would have decreased rather than increased, but if you manage windows systems like unix systems, your workload will increase. Having done about 50 unix to M$ transistions in the past 2 years I have a pretty good understanding of what's involved.
This post is right on the fucking money. Almost every one of these security holes are brought on by "feature requests" and by user feedback during usability studies with non-technical users.
"CERT said vulnerabilities in IIS and IE could include MIME-type determination, the DHTML object model, the IE domain/zone security model and ActiveX scripts. Alternative browsers such as Mozilla or Netscape may not protect users, the agency warned, if those browsers invoke ActiveX control or HTML rendering engines.
The only defense may be completely disabling scripting and ActiveX controls. "
You are absolutely right in that it's all about stable API's. Microsoft doesn't want to jump on the "bandwagon" because historically *nix applications would not run from *nix platform to platform (try taking a Linux app and just running it on HPUX). It's the portability problem that lead to the development of the various VMs (Java,CLR) As an aside the fact that Linux is open source and can be recompiled on the target platform puts the importance of java in doubt.
If you think there isn't "an agency just sitting on little-known accidental root exploits and keeping them in their classified root kit" for most (if not all) of the *nixs out there you are dreaming. In fact I'm pretty sure there are folks out there that check to make sure the exploits still work as each new build comes out.
The first question I would ask is are you (as a student) obligated to connect to their network? Even if the answer is yes, and you have to supply the computer, that does not give you you the right to put whatever software you want on it. If they require a PC with plan9 on it, you have to come up with it (like the rest of your tuition). Second, does your employer allow your home computer to attach to their network? If so they are incredibly stupid, and begging for a lawsuit. If not then of course they could care less what software you run.
If the campus is going to run like an ISP/business then your arguement falls flat. Every ISP I've ever dealt with in NE has a very long agreement dictating the exact terms of service. For example, when I first signed up with Comcast, I was required to provide a Windows computer. No other OS was (and I believe still is) allowed by the TOS. Is it enforced- obviously not. But they still had to come out and install their software on my Windows box.
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While it sounds really cool to blame the corporations, the real problem is the fact that Joe Average, US citizen extraordinaire, doesn't give a rat's ass about what kind of job the guy he voted for (if he voted) is doing. He only voted for him because he promised to do something that benefited him, not if the politician's ideas would benefit the country.
/. but at the end of the day, he goes about his business and votes for the same sort of dope that he whined about when he got screwed. So few actually contribute to a cause, call their congressman, take the day off work to show up at his office and demand an answer that it's no wonder the corps seem to run the show- they actually pay folks to explain their position to the government.
Joe really doesn't care about what the government does, until the boot comes down thanks to some ridiculous law. Then he'll whine and complain, maybe post on
Doesn't work for me- win2k pro ie6 with MSN toolbar
When the UN has the power to "mandate" any standard is when I start worrying.
If I only charged 10x more for Unix consulting I'd probably have to start buying domestic beer.
Actually it reduces hardware and infrastructure costs. It actually increases maintanance costs by 1 system. This may be a fair tradeoff
Actually in the US the NTSB is responsible for testing cars, not the manufacturer.
"If his boss was such a poor performer, his failures would have made themselves evident over time."
Ahh the optimism of inexperience. Soon to be crushed by the dismal intrusion of reality.
That article makes me even happier about my decision. Your linked article states that the rich got poorer under Bush. So much for the "tax cuts for the rich" mantra Kerry loves to spout. I don't think keeping mainstream america solvent is a bad thing.
relevent quote:
"The report said the sharpest drops were in both the number and the earnings of people with the highest incomes. Those with incomes of $10 million or more saw average income fall 22 percent, while the number of returns reporting incomes at that level fell 53 percent during the two year period.
Meanwhile the average income of those filing returns with incomes between $25,000 and $500,000 saw the average income little changed, somewhere between a 0.1 percent decline and a 0.2 percent gain, depending upon the income category, the Times said."
Yup, what does anyone expect? First /.ers were happy as a clam that Microsoft (previously ignored by the feds) took one up the tailpipe. Now that Microsoft's realized that they HAVE to play the game, and have decided to play it to win, folks are unhappy that the government is actually following the stupid rules that US citizens allowed, forgetting that the same stupid rules were some of the ones they were cheering for when they went against Microsoft.
I agree with you about Bush appointing unqualified advisors. However the vote isn't George Bush vs George Washington, it's Bush vs. Kerry, a man who has to ask you what you would like for an answer before he makes up his mind on any issue, and is a member of the party that passsed the DMCA. I seriously doubt he would choose any differently. I think that no /. vote should go for a Democrat even if you don't want to vote for Bush.
As far as Bush losing jobs and dollars, I don't know how much I believe that. I've heard that and the opposite from various news outlets. I do know that every time taxes are cut, the economy grows.
Nor should we. I'd prefer they fight GPL here and lose.
Those of us charging to customize, support and sell MS products must have phantom jobs, 'cause I'm getting paid by someone. While it's ok to sell free software, you also have to provide the source code to whatever modifications you have made. The intention of the GNU project and the GPL is to cause more open source software to be written. That's not a bad thing. It's just not my companies goal. I don't think that OSS puts people out of work, neither do I think that regularly licensed software, distributed for free puts people out of work.
Yeah if only we had an easy way to get applications to somehow interface with the browser... wait a tick, that's what folks hate about IE now!
Read Heinlein and you'll see the difference.
No the Uni should prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. They knew exactly what they were doing and that it was wrong. If they wanted to experiment then either take a networking course or build a lan themselves.
As far as "fostering an open environment" goes, if they had, even accidentally, managed to screw up the NFS mount hat you had your thesis on (and lets say you aren't exactly technical, say an MBA-so forget backups) you'd be demanding a revival of crucifiction. No-one should be allowed to break the rules without repercussions that should (hopefully) make you think twice about doing it.
Saying California power was deregulated, is like saying Enron made a profit
This usually happens when folks transistion from Unix to windows and don't replace teh staff with windows savy IT staff. In general your workload would have decreased rather than increased, but if you manage windows systems like unix systems, your workload will increase. Having done about 50 unix to M$ transistions in the past 2 years I have a pretty good understanding of what's involved.
This post is right on the fucking money. Almost every one of these security holes are brought on by "feature requests" and by user feedback during usability studies with non-technical users.
The article also says:
"CERT said vulnerabilities in IIS and IE could include MIME-type determination, the DHTML object model, the IE domain/zone security model and ActiveX scripts. Alternative browsers such as Mozilla or Netscape may not protect users, the agency warned, if those browsers invoke ActiveX control or HTML rendering engines.
The only defense may be completely disabling scripting and ActiveX controls. "
You are absolutely right in that it's all about stable API's. Microsoft doesn't want to jump on the "bandwagon" because historically *nix applications would not run from *nix platform to platform (try taking a Linux app and just running it on HPUX). It's the portability problem that lead to the development of the various VMs (Java ,CLR) As an aside the fact that Linux is open source and can be recompiled on the target platform puts the importance of java in doubt.
If you think there isn't "an agency just sitting on little-known accidental root exploits and keeping them in their classified root kit" for most (if not all) of the *nixs out there you are dreaming. In fact I'm pretty sure there are folks out there that check to make sure the exploits still work as each new build comes out.
So use the services for unix download and install bash.. Bash Shell
The first question I would ask is are you (as a student) obligated to connect to their network? Even if the answer is yes, and you have to supply the computer, that does not give you you the right to put whatever software you want on it. If they require a PC with plan9 on it, you have to come up with it (like the rest of your tuition). Second, does your employer allow your home computer to attach to their network? If so they are incredibly stupid, and begging for a lawsuit. If not then of course they could care less what software you run.
If the campus is going to run like an ISP/business then your arguement falls flat. Every ISP I've ever dealt with in NE has a very long agreement dictating the exact terms of service. For example, when I first signed up with Comcast, I was required to provide a Windows computer. No other OS was (and I believe still is) allowed by the TOS. Is it enforced- obviously not. But they still had to come out and install their software on my Windows box.