Consider a possibility that they considered. With Nforce pro you could theoreticly put 4 gfx cards on a system. Putting a dual core opteron pair with those 4 gfx cards. Then there is raid issue, with 8 15k rpm scsi raids with controller. Soundcard, and 32GB of ram, and chipset takes power too. Now put 500W for GFX, 200W for CPU:s , 100W for raid array, and 100W for rest of stuff, then there is need for some margin if the system heats because then the efficiency goes down and power comsumption goes up, and power supply delivers less when its heated. Yes, its a system for those with huge fortunes. But the powersupply isn't el cheapo anyway.
Or they could have projected the future power comsumption based on prescott going dual core, and gfx cards previous increases in powerconsumption. The trend has been obvious, we need more power. Of course you don't know when they made a get go for designing of this powersupply perhaps they decided the project based on last two years increase in power requirements, and predicted based on that for another two years increase or something similar.
Or they just wanted to bragging rights, and recoup the costs of designing the powersupply by selling its lesspowerfull brethren. Which is better have engineers design something that gets public attention or put a marketing campaing.
The fact is the powersupply got attention of thousands of nerds who buy computers for that company, and maybe some of them starts paying more attention to that company when buying next powersupply, even if they don't buy 1KW model.
In the long run, having groups of humans separated by a few million miles is probably the best way to keep us from killing each other all the time.
Yeh. Two planets one with all humans living underground and one with humans living on surface BOTH having nuclear bombs. What would happen when the Mars is populated by humans and they feel the urge to get independent from earth, and start building nuclear planet killers. Of course some Earth nation has already build something to throw at Mars also at the time.
Nuclear planet killer could be something like a Teraton scale thermonuclear warhead.
Or just mass produced Gigaton nukes, coming in millions.
Oh yeah and both thrust their defences to handle what ever the other has send and don't know the counter measures the other side has made to getting past the defences.
I think what he tried to tell you that the fabs are doing things EXACLY like other Intel fabs. Now if first fab of certain kind do not recycle then no-other fab either. The yield is the reason for such mentality. Not recycling water might be excessive on that mentality but the mentality makes difference in yield. Or lack of difference in yield between intel fabs;)
>>Space tourists will not land on its surface but will circle its dark side and orbit close enough to examine its cratered lunar crust. >In fact you can see the dark side from Earth; just try to find the moon during the "new" phase. I think what they mean to say is the far side, which is never visible from Earth.
The true reason for the need of consolidation is simple, and I can give you one example. I'm using Fedora with x86-64. I wanted to get a program I want to use with composing. Not too much to ask. There are tens of them available for linux. Now good question, how many of them I could install easy for my machine. For windows user the easy is ofcourse that you click a file after you have downloaded it and it gives you either default options that just work, and perhaps asks few secondary questions each non technical in nature. In MY case the easy is considered, tar -xvzf , make , make install. Or./configure or just following the instructions that was given with the program. Now I got ZERO of them working, that way. And I spend some time editing the makefile, for one of them [shouldn't be necessity for installing software]... Afterwards it just crashed when it finished. hmmm.
With unified distribution the software would just work, a lot easier. Not because it magically got better but, its when the creator of the software the packager, and user has same distribution the things just work since there would be FAR less options that can go wrong in the path from developer to user of software, and far more people would share the problems if there would be problems for installing on the distribution of software and it would be fixed quicklier.
Montecito, coming in 6 months. Running 2 cores >2Ghz frequency, AND adds multithreading to micture at sametime, takes the itaniums worst performance hurdle in those integer apps that itanium cares about by making a dedicated 1MB L2 instruction cache for each cores.
Now I'm doing some code generation stuff. Itanium is great for code generation target it has lots of facilities to get great performance out of it. However, there exists a LOT of ugly spagetti code that is given to compiler and say compile this and give us performance. The ugly spagetti is slower that properly designed code on *ALL* platforms however it hurts itanium most by not being able to guess and do out of order execution, and lower clockspeed. And based on what I've seen on university students coding I can say that the problem is growing all the time...
Now I've found that Itanium is great target for the stuff that I make a code generator for.
In realworld there are people who just copy EXACLY existing paintings. Thats craft. Then are people who do those masterpieces on firstplace. Thats art.
When it comes to programming, most people are craftsmen. I'm artist, and when I have my artists block it can kill my production for a long time. But when I get the inner genius going on I produce master pieces.
The difference between artists and craftsman is huge. Artists feel and create images in their mind, and then produce the inner image. The craftsman just uses his skills, and just implements stuff in more direct manner. Gets the thing done, but don't do anything clever, or they just lack an original inner image on the thing they are going to create.
Creating the original inner image IS the art. The copying the image to some medium is a craft.
ALL programming is craft until you are good enough, after that it can be either, and that depends on. A) your personality. B) your enviroment.,"ALL programmers must be able to understand you so no clever things" C) the strictness of the specs you are given.
IF specs say just a few words for huge program you have chance of creating art. If they define everylittle detail you cannot create art. ART is something creative, and most programmers are just implementors and not artists creating original stuff.
>That's funny, I'm a programmer and I make more than 90% of America. You need to find a new employer, friend.
WOW more than 90% of america's income. Is that the US definition of America like United States of America, or even more by defining it ENTIRE America like both continents? And all that money on ONE person.
Who would love to have all time direct connection between hardware and your brain when the software used is Microsofts? (as it would no doubt be in Gates position)
Who does he really think he is? Claiming those processors suck badly. The reality is this, those processors have more power than most PC cpu:s while consuming lesspower. Each individual CPU is less powerfull, but not much, since going for IPC don't give much per added costs, so they make each individual somewhat CPU less powerfull. BUT they make more of them available. The same is going on for PC world the transformation is in place, but it takes time to increase the number of CPU:s significantly. But these game consoles are ahead the curve in this matter. And when transition happens like this one, there is always people who have hard time grasping it. And those people will continue claiming it sucks because it cannot do their legacy stuff as well as the optimized for legacy stuff processor. Their peak performance is much higher than PC:s and for parallerisable tasks, and they have ability to get it when the software is ready and optimized for the platform that doesn't change a bit for years. Now with single threaded minds doing sequential stuff is going to be obsolete in future unless they can upgrade their wetware, which takes time for some people. And those who adapts to it slowly will complain, always.
Actually no. Some of it will reflect back by atmosphere, and some of it will go through it, and some of it will stay in the atmosphere. The key here is that the AIR HUMIDITY on top of sahara isn't its greatest I've been heard so that the component that stays in atmosphere is going to be smaller, as the component which will reflect back.
Okay the problem here is that earth gets warmer. Now you need some way of getting rid of the heat. What if you make mirrors on earthsurface to mirror the solarradiotion off? Now I know its lots of work and requires lots of co-operation and agreament on large countries with lots of desert. BUT there is alternative for co-operation! Pick few countries with a LOT of sand in its surface. Come on you should know enough of geography so that you could name one, or two big enough, one of them might be called our oil or something similar, but there are few terrorist states still which fit the description so. You just need a lot of heat to get create glass for the mirroring, so what you do. and make thermonuclear bombing raid to turn its surface to a large mirror for mirroring heat out of earths surface.
Consider that this has a LOT better random access time than a solidate disk. Put most of the filesystem except home, tmp and var to this disk, and using a normal HD for them and t. Should reduce reboot times, and application launch times by a sizable margin. This thing could be usefull for server enviroments too if reliable enough. Its main advantage would be reduction of downtime by being able to get up quicker. (No V!46R4 jokes plz)
>>Have you people heard of the notion of "innocent until proven guilty"? It says an alleged Australian >>spammer. Let's make sure he really is Australian before we start jumping to conclusions.
>Who cares what the spammers' nationality is? Seems to me a million dollor fine is a bit steep for >someone who was only spamming Australians.
No he is advocating a death penalty for being australian not, for spamming. Can't you read what it says.
Just make some long rails between few large bodies in our solar system. The rails would transfer the electricity to points right behind the train with electro magnetics and superconductors on the train would repulse it from the magnetic field. So there wouldn't be any mass for propulsion to move. As a superconductors inside rails would move the propulsion power to the ship.
The fact is that the TESTS at the basic schooling system and SOME of the homework is exacly opposite of the things that helps you to remember and understand things, instead they test the superficial memorized information. I spend my schooling by doing 1/10th of the assigments I've been given but understanding the issues instead. I was interested in understanding things not playing around with some stupid questions. At university level, I've tried to do it the HARD way, instead of the way I was used to and I FAILED, still on university, since it costs me almost nothing to stay there. [I live in country with goverment paid high level education.]
Tell me about studies of obvious things, when someone asks you for a reference for the fact that united states declaration of independence was ratified in 4th of July 1776. Or anyother thing we all consider truths but for science there must be a reference pointing a study that declares that this is a fact and not just a fiction. You mention something as a fact in your study then reference a paper proving that fact, or do the study yourself and put the proof in the paper.
Nah. There is plenty of things that they might be protecting. One first thing to protect is from lawsuits. As long as you don't know what they have you cannot sue for it infriging your patent. Another is 3rd party IP, they migt use lisenced IP in the ethernet controller which agreament says that they cannot release certain specs. 3rdly they might have something surpricing done there that must be protected. They might have some different offloading engine done a lot less transistors than anything else functionally similar and so on. Many things you consider simple might not be so simple when considering the details. They might really be protecting some secret with not releasing the proper specs, it might be infridgement of someone elses patent or some strange trick theyve done or they just obey their lisence agreament for lisenced IP.
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Consider a possibility that they considered.
With Nforce pro you could theoreticly put 4 gfx cards on a system.
Putting a dual core opteron pair with those 4 gfx cards. Then there is raid issue, with 8 15k rpm scsi raids with controller. Soundcard, and 32GB of ram, and chipset takes power too.
Now put 500W for GFX, 200W for CPU:s , 100W for raid array, and 100W for rest of stuff, then there is need for some margin if the system heats because then the efficiency goes down and power comsumption goes up, and power supply delivers less when its heated.
Yes, its a system for those with huge fortunes. But the powersupply isn't el cheapo anyway.
Or they could have projected the future power comsumption based on prescott going dual core, and gfx cards previous increases in powerconsumption.
The trend has been obvious, we need more power. Of course you don't know when they made a get go for designing of this powersupply perhaps they decided the project based on last two years increase in power requirements, and predicted based on that for another two years increase or something similar.
Or they just wanted to bragging rights, and recoup the costs of designing the powersupply by selling its lesspowerfull brethren. Which is better have engineers design something that gets public attention or put a marketing campaing.
The fact is the powersupply got attention of thousands of nerds who buy computers for that company, and maybe some of them starts paying more attention to that company when buying next powersupply, even if they don't buy 1KW model.
Yeh. Two planets one with all humans living underground and one with humans living on surface BOTH having nuclear bombs. What would happen when the Mars is populated by humans and they feel the urge to get independent from earth, and start building nuclear planet killers. Of course some Earth nation has already build something to throw at Mars also at the time. Nuclear planet killer could be something like a Teraton scale thermonuclear warhead. Or just mass produced Gigaton nukes, coming in millions. Oh yeah and both thrust their defences to handle what ever the other has send and don't know the counter measures the other side has made to getting past the defences.
I think what he tried to tell you that the fabs are doing things EXACLY like other Intel fabs. ;)
Now if first fab of certain kind do not recycle then no-other fab either. The yield is the reason for such mentality. Not recycling water might be excessive on that mentality but the mentality makes difference in yield. Or lack of difference in yield between intel fabs
>>Space tourists will not land on its surface but will circle its dark side and orbit close enough to examine its cratered lunar crust.
;)
>In fact you can see the dark side from Earth; just try to find the moon during the "new" phase. I think what they mean to say is the far side, which is never visible from Earth.
If you only knew the power of the far side
The true reason for the need of consolidation is simple, and I can give you one example. ./configure or just following the instructions that was given with the program. ...
I'm using Fedora with x86-64.
I wanted to get a program I want to use with composing. Not too much to ask.
There are tens of them available for linux.
Now good question, how many of them I could install easy for my machine.
For windows user the easy is ofcourse that you click a file after you have downloaded it and it gives you either default options that just work, and perhaps asks few secondary questions each non technical in nature.
In MY case the easy is considered, tar -xvzf , make , make install. Or
Now I got ZERO of them working, that way.
And I spend some time editing the makefile, for one of them [shouldn't be necessity for installing software]
Afterwards it just crashed when it finished. hmmm.
With unified distribution the software would just work, a lot easier. Not because it magically got better but, its when the creator of the software the packager, and user has same distribution the things just work since there would be FAR less options that can go wrong in the path from developer to user of software, and far more people would share the problems if there would be problems for installing on the distribution of software and it would be fixed quicklier.
>>Do they not use paperless toilets in Europe?
>You misspelled Montana.
I'm from europe and I haven't seen a paperless toilet...
Unless you count a time in military where people where asked to dig a pit for the shit, and use the leaves.
So you are absolutely correct he made a spelling mistake. Or is from the military.
Single processor itaniums for under 3000$v er.php?cat=352
http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i2190/itanium-ser
Montecito, coming in 6 months. Running 2 cores >2Ghz frequency, AND adds multithreading to micture at sametime, takes the itaniums worst performance hurdle in those integer apps that itanium cares about by making a dedicated 1MB L2 instruction cache for each cores.
Now I'm doing some code generation stuff. Itanium is great for code generation target it has lots of facilities to get great performance out of it. However, there exists a LOT of ugly spagetti code that is given to compiler and say compile this and give us performance. The ugly spagetti is slower that properly designed code on *ALL* platforms however it hurts itanium most by not being able to guess and do out of order execution, and lower clockspeed. And based on what I've seen on university students coding I can say that the problem is growing all the time...
Now I've found that Itanium is great target for the stuff that I make a code generator for.
In realworld there are people who just copy EXACLY existing paintings. Thats craft.
,"ALL programmers must be able to understand you so no clever things"
Then are people who do those masterpieces on firstplace. Thats art.
When it comes to programming, most people are craftsmen.
I'm artist, and when I have my artists block it can kill my production for a long time.
But when I get the inner genius going on I produce master pieces.
The difference between artists and craftsman is huge. Artists feel and create images in their mind, and then produce the inner image. The craftsman just uses his skills, and just implements stuff in more direct manner. Gets the thing done, but don't do anything clever, or they just lack an original inner image on the thing they are going to create.
Creating the original inner image IS the art. The copying the image to some medium is a craft.
ALL programming is craft until you are good enough, after that it can be either, and that depends on.
A) your personality.
B) your enviroment.
C) the strictness of the specs you are given.
IF specs say just a few words for huge program you have chance of creating art. If they define everylittle detail you cannot create art. ART is something creative, and most programmers are just implementors and not artists creating original stuff.
>That's funny, I'm a programmer and I make more than 90% of America. You need to find a new employer, friend.
WOW more than 90% of america's income. Is that the US definition of America like United States of America, or even more by defining it ENTIRE America like both continents?
And all that money on ONE person.
When does my penis get enlarged ?
After all lots of spam I get suggest that.
UGH I try hard NOT TO.
Who would love to have all time direct connection between hardware and your brain when the software used is Microsofts?
(as it would no doubt be in Gates position)
Who does he really think he is?
Claiming those processors suck badly.
The reality is this, those processors have more power than most PC cpu:s while consuming lesspower.
Each individual CPU is less powerfull, but not much, since going for IPC don't give much per added costs, so they make each individual somewhat CPU less powerfull. BUT they make more of them available.
The same is going on for PC world the transformation is in place, but it takes time to increase the number of CPU:s significantly. But these game consoles are ahead the curve in this matter. And when transition happens like this one, there is always people who have hard time grasping it. And those people will continue claiming it sucks because it cannot do their legacy stuff as well as the optimized for legacy stuff processor. Their peak performance is much higher than PC:s and for parallerisable tasks, and they have ability to get it when the software is ready and optimized for the platform that doesn't change a bit for years. Now with single threaded minds doing sequential stuff is going to be obsolete in future unless they can upgrade their wetware, which takes time for some people. And those who adapts to it slowly will complain, always.
Actually no.
Some of it will reflect back by atmosphere, and some of it will go through it, and some of it will stay in the atmosphere. The key here is that the AIR HUMIDITY on top of sahara isn't its greatest I've been heard so that the component that stays in atmosphere is going to be smaller, as the component which will reflect back.
Okay the problem here is that earth gets warmer. Now you need some way of getting rid of the heat. What if you make mirrors on earthsurface to mirror the solarradiotion off?
Now I know its lots of work and requires lots of co-operation and agreament on large countries with lots of desert. BUT there is alternative for co-operation!
Pick few countries with a LOT of sand in its surface.
Come on you should know enough of geography so that you could name one, or two big enough, one of them might be called our oil or something similar, but there are few terrorist states still which fit the description so.
You just need a lot of heat to get create glass for the mirroring, so what you do. and make thermonuclear bombing raid to turn its surface to a large mirror for mirroring heat out of earths surface.
4EVAR!
Consider that this has a LOT better random access time than a solidate disk.
Put most of the filesystem except home, tmp and var to this disk, and using a normal HD for them and t. Should reduce reboot times, and application launch times by a sizable margin. This thing could be usefull for server enviroments too if reliable enough. Its main advantage would be reduction of downtime by being able to get up quicker.
(No V!46R4 jokes plz)
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>>No he is advocating a death penalty for being australian not, for spamming. Can't you read what it says.
>Yes. Yes I can read what it says.
>Can you get a joke?
What was there a joke somewhere? Shouldn't there be a deathpenlty for being australian?
>>Have you people heard of the notion of "innocent until proven guilty"? It says an alleged Australian >>spammer. Let's make sure he really is Australian before we start jumping to conclusions.
>Who cares what the spammers' nationality is? Seems to me a million dollor fine is a bit steep for >someone who was only spamming Australians.
No he is advocating a death penalty for being australian not, for spamming. Can't you read what it says.
Just make some long rails between few large bodies in our solar system. The rails would transfer the electricity to points right behind the train with electro magnetics and superconductors on the train would repulse it from the magnetic field. So there wouldn't be any mass for propulsion to move. As a superconductors inside rails would move the propulsion power to the ship.
;)
Sure, sure I definitely read the article
Manufacture 4 energya rockets. Each capable of handling cargo+smaller stearing truster to handle a mission that would of taken 3 shuttle launches.
The fact is that the TESTS at the basic schooling system and SOME of the homework is exacly opposite of the things that helps you to remember and understand things, instead they test the superficial memorized information. I spend my schooling by doing 1/10th of the assigments I've been given but understanding the issues instead. I was interested in understanding things not playing around with some stupid questions. At university level, I've tried to do it the HARD way, instead of the way I was used to and I FAILED, still on university, since it costs me almost nothing to stay there. [I live in country with goverment paid high level education.]
Tell me about studies of obvious things, when someone asks you for a reference for the fact that united states declaration of independence was ratified in 4th of July 1776. Or anyother thing we all consider truths but for science there must be a reference pointing a study that declares that this is a fact and not just a fiction. You mention something as a fact in your study then reference a paper proving that fact, or do the study yourself and put the proof in the paper.
Nah. There is plenty of things that they might be protecting.
One first thing to protect is from lawsuits. As long as you don't know what they have you cannot sue for it infriging your patent.
Another is 3rd party IP, they migt use lisenced IP in the ethernet controller which agreament says that they cannot release certain specs.
3rdly they might have something surpricing done there that must be protected.
They might have some different offloading engine done a lot less transistors than anything else functionally similar and so on. Many things you consider simple might not be so simple when considering the details. They might really be protecting some secret with not releasing the proper specs, it might be infridgement of someone elses patent or some strange trick theyve done or they just obey their lisence agreament for lisenced IP.