I think Google would have been happier to have a longer heads up so they could finish their own iOS app version of their maps.
How much more time did they need? Didn't they get the hint when Apple changed their iPhoto for iOS mapping back in March? Not to mention the negotiations that must have gone on before that?
Talking about paying attention: "As such, it is important to remember that safety trends are never established over a single year, and as such additional sustained analysis is needed before concrete conclusions can be drawn."
Also of note: same direction crashes increased on all intersections, not just those with cameras.
Only the iWankers say so, because they MUST use a web site. While I can use apps to my full satisfaction. It is a different world, you know. The words "forever alone" sound cozy, warm and reassuring here.
Okay, which Androids do you use for "full satisfaction", and where did you get them from - and what else did you catch there.
Is this so? "More than two-thirds of the earnings were generated by the telecommunications business" - so is this their (smart) phones, or is this their Samsung Telecommunication Systems Business division, "one of the world’s leader in 4G wireless technology and network infrastructure.
It provides cutting-edge LTE solutions to more than 30 mobile network operators and Mobile WiMAX solutions to about 60 operators worldwide.* Samsung partners with leading 4G operators around the globe, including Sprint and Clearwire in the U.S., UQ Communications in Japan, YTL Communications in Malaysia and Mobily in Saudi Arabia."
Samsung Electronics made profits of about $6 billion last quarter on revenues equal to 19% of South Korea's entire GDP. While not quite Apple's $8 billion over the same period, I don't expect to see Samsung execs begging for change anytime soon.
You are aware that "Samsung Electronics" is a big supplier of household appliances, TVs, consumer electronics worldwide? Not to mention all the other stuff they make.
All of Apple's contracts combined (display, processor, memory, etc) only account for about 3% of Samsung's annual revenue and probably less than 1% of their profits (components are typically low margin). While Apple is a big customer, they aren't really a "golden goose" for Samsung.
Errm, when you say "Samsung", what exactly are you talking about? Samsung Group (which also sells insurances and container ships)? Samsung Electronics (which also sells household appliances and consumer products)? Or Samsung Semiconductor, which is the only part of Samsung Apple is a customer of?
Comparing previous IDC figures with current figures for previous quarters show they are full of it. BRTW: who will you insult after the results for this quarter are out?
Your figures need citations... looks like you're talking about the US only, where, indeed, Apple is in third place. Despite this, in 2012 alone, Apple has had more growth in mobile marketshare than any other single company, and their marketshare will continue to grow. But you go ahead and believe what you want in your twisted fantasy world, because outside of that, your worst nightmares are coming true.
To put Apples market decile of 23.1% to 14.9% in some sort of perspective Android grew its market share from 52.8% to 75%.
Clearly I had no trouble backing up my figures. Perhaps you should have used an Android device to check your facts. Then you wouldn't look so foolish.
Sasy the right guy - not only have you not provided a source for your 23.1% number, you also showed that in the quarter people waited for the iPhone 5 to come out, Apple has grown its market share by over a percentage point.
As for tablets, that number by IDC is always quite suspect (Samsung outselling the Nexus tablets and Kindles combined?)- but even then, in the quarter of iPad killers (finally) and before the iPad Mini, Apple still dominates the market.
I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how this isn't exactly like the anti-trust situation where Microsoft bundled their own browser with Windows.
Isn't this the problem with the whole model though? You have to make the app, invest the thousands to make it work, and only then, after you've spent the money do you get to find out whether it was a complete and total waste or not. Based entirely on a large multinational's whim.
What problem? You obviously don't even have to bother writing an app anymore to get the publicity from an Apple banning. Just claim that it would get banned.
No Apple's argument is that nobody pays a percentage of the device, only on the chip implementing the function.
Chip makers have to pay a license fee to simply make chips that can use the patent. Users of patented technology must also pay for the right to use that technology. Only end users (aka consumers) don't need to pay for the right of using technology in patents as the purchase price is included.
Patent exhaustion - look it up.
It is how it works with every kind of FRAND patent scheme. End of story. There are no if's, and's or but's about it.
10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8 (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
(c) No Navigation, Autonomous Vehicle Control, or Enterprise Applications. You must not use the Service or Content with any products, systems, or applications for or in connection with any of the following:
(i) real time navigation or route guidance, including but not limited to turn-by-turn route guidance that is synchronized to the position of a user's sensor-enabled device.
That so-called "number 1 reason" they dumped google maps in favor of their own application is a feature that isn't even available on the iPhone 4. Their 3-d flyover view isn't available on it either.
It seems strange that they would have bothered to even make iOS6 compatible with older phones at all when what was evidently a key factor in their decision to change the OS mapping application will not work on such devices.
That still leaves vector maps and their lower data usage and the better offline use.
One of the things you're not allowed to do with a monopoly, is using the power of it to gain a monopoly in a different market.
So what is your "unit of monopoly" in this case?
Apple phones? Well, duh, Apple has a "monopoly" on those, but that's just moronic.
Smartphones? Apple does not have a monopoly here and never has. The best they can do is about 50% which is so far from a monopoly anyone looking at it seriously will laugh at you.
Mobile phones as a whole? See above, but with an even smaller percentage.
I'm not seeing what "monopoly unit" that you seem to want to select to result in *only* Apple being in a monopoly position. Maybe you can spell it out for us?
Well, while he spelled A-P-P-L-E, the only one with something resembling a monopoly in this case spells G-O-O-G-L-E.
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I think Google would have been happier to have a longer heads up so they could finish their own iOS app version of their maps.
How much more time did they need? Didn't they get the hint when Apple changed their iPhoto for iOS mapping back in March? Not to mention the negotiations that must have gone on before that?
Write your legislators and demand a ban on red light cameras and a return to more reasonable yellow light times.
Better idea: make red light running a capital offence.
Talking about paying attention: "As such, it is important to remember that safety trends are never established over a single year, and as such additional sustained analysis is needed before concrete conclusions can be drawn."
Also of note: same direction crashes increased on all intersections, not just those with cameras.
Only the iWankers say so, because they MUST use a web site. While I can use apps to my full satisfaction. It is a different world, you know. The words "forever alone" sound cozy, warm and reassuring here.
Okay, which Androids do you use for "full satisfaction", and where did you get them from - and what else did you catch there.
Just curious, where do you live? If it's the US, the problems were very minor there in comparison to other parts of the world.
Like in China, where it beats the crap out of Google Maps?
According to Samsung Electronics, two-thirds of their $6 billion in profits last quarter came from their smartphones.
This is about the same percentage for Apple, the iPhone, and their $8 billion in profits last quarter.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-25/samsung-profit-beats-estimates-on-surging-sales-of-phones.html
Is this so? "More than two-thirds of the earnings were generated by the telecommunications business" - so is this their (smart) phones, or is this their Samsung Telecommunication Systems Business division, "one of the world’s leader in 4G wireless technology and network infrastructure.
It provides cutting-edge LTE solutions to more than 30 mobile network operators and Mobile WiMAX solutions to about 60 operators worldwide.* Samsung partners with leading 4G operators around the globe, including Sprint and Clearwire in the U.S., UQ Communications in Japan, YTL Communications in Malaysia and Mobily in Saudi Arabia."
Samsung Electronics made profits of about $6 billion last quarter on revenues equal to 19% of South Korea's entire GDP. While not quite Apple's $8 billion over the same period, I don't expect to see Samsung execs begging for change anytime soon.
You are aware that "Samsung Electronics" is a big supplier of household appliances, TVs, consumer electronics worldwide? Not to mention all the other stuff they make.
Huh? Samsung doesn't make money off of the GS3? Then why are the most profitable Android device manufacturer?
Because they also sell Bada and Windows phones.
All of Apple's contracts combined (display, processor, memory, etc) only account for about 3% of Samsung's annual revenue and probably less than 1% of their profits (components are typically low margin). While Apple is a big customer, they aren't really a "golden goose" for Samsung.
Errm, when you say "Samsung", what exactly are you talking about? Samsung Group (which also sells insurances and container ships)? Samsung Electronics (which also sells household appliances and consumer products)? Or Samsung Semiconductor, which is the only part of Samsung Apple is a customer of?
Are those 3.5 h with or without Flash?
Comparing previous IDC figures with current figures for previous quarters show they are full of it. BRTW: who will you insult after the results for this quarter are out?
Your figures need citations... looks like you're talking about the US only, where, indeed, Apple is in third place. Despite this, in 2012 alone, Apple has had more growth in mobile marketshare than any other single company, and their marketshare will continue to grow. But you go ahead and believe what you want in your twisted fantasy world, because outside of that, your worst nightmares are coming true.
I am using IDC's latest figures.
https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23771812 for mobile
https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23772412 for tablets
To put Apples market decile of 23.1% to 14.9% in some sort of perspective Android grew its market share from 52.8% to 75%.
Clearly I had no trouble backing up my figures. Perhaps you should have used an Android device to check your facts. Then you wouldn't look so foolish.
Sasy the right guy - not only have you not provided a source for your 23.1% number, you also showed that in the quarter people waited for the iPhone 5 to come out, Apple has grown its market share by over a percentage point.
As for tablets, that number by IDC is always quite suspect (Samsung outselling the Nexus tablets and Kindles combined?)- but even then, in the quarter of iPad killers (finally) and before the iPad Mini, Apple still dominates the market.
Remember Charlie Miller, the hacker Apple hates so much he was banned for a year from the App Store? Google barred his wife from an Google Play Store developer account because "I got banned for being 'associated' with @jonoberheide. My wife got banned for associating with me."
I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how this isn't exactly like the anti-trust situation where Microsoft bundled their own browser with Windows.
Well, for one there was the consent decree http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
So you claim Google's terms are lies.
Can you tell me why Sony's ebook reader app was rejected at Apple's app store?
Because they violated the in-app-purchase policy. But rejoice: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/reader-ebooks-from-sony/id566383171?mt=8
Isn't this the problem with the whole model though? You have to make the app, invest the thousands to make it work, and only then, after you've spent the money do you get to find out whether it was a complete and total waste or not. Based entirely on a large multinational's whim.
What problem? You obviously don't even have to bother writing an app anymore to get the publicity from an Apple banning. Just claim that it would get banned.
No Apple's argument is that nobody pays a percentage of the device, only on the chip implementing the function.
Chip makers have to pay a license fee to simply make chips that can use the patent. Users of patented technology must also pay for the right to use that technology. Only end users (aka consumers) don't need to pay for the right of using technology in patents as the purchase price is included.
Patent exhaustion - look it up.
It is how it works with every kind of FRAND patent scheme. End of story. There are no if's, and's or but's about it.
This has all been very thoroughly ignored in other threads.
FTFY
... before the truth hits, that is.
You've done a very good job as the self-appointed Apple fanboy, so much so that you are telling a flat out lie.
Google never withhold its turn-by-turn voice navigation.
They most certainly did. They still don't allow it for anybody using Google Maps/Google Earth API. https://developers.google.com/maps/terms.
Google _could_ have given me turn by turn navigation in their version but they chose not to.
Google has never had a maps app on iOS. It's always been an Apple app.
And they couldn't offer turn-by-turn because Google still doesn't allow allow it. https://developers.google.com/maps/terms
10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8 (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
(c) No Navigation, Autonomous Vehicle Control, or Enterprise Applications. You must not use the Service or Content with any products, systems, or applications for or in connection with any of the following:
(i) real time navigation or route guidance, including but not limited to turn-by-turn route guidance that is synchronized to the position of a user's sensor-enabled device.
That so-called "number 1 reason" they dumped google maps in favor of their own application is a feature that isn't even available on the iPhone 4. Their 3-d flyover view isn't available on it either.
It seems strange that they would have bothered to even make iOS6 compatible with older phones at all when what was evidently a key factor in their decision to change the OS mapping application will not work on such devices.
That still leaves vector maps and their lower data usage and the better offline use.
As much as they tried to paint Google as the bad guy, it was Apple who refused to negotiate.
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-apple-no-longer-has-google-based-maps-on-the-iphone-2012-9
Apple tried to negotiate with Google
I don't know who's the bigger moron, you or the guys moding you up.
One of the things you're not allowed to do with a monopoly, is using the power of it to gain a monopoly in a different market.
So what is your "unit of monopoly" in this case?
Apple phones? Well, duh, Apple has a "monopoly" on those, but that's just moronic.
Smartphones? Apple does not have a monopoly here and never has. The best they can do is about 50% which is so far from a monopoly anyone looking at it seriously will laugh at you.
Mobile phones as a whole? See above, but with an even smaller percentage.
I'm not seeing what "monopoly unit" that you seem to want to select to result in *only* Apple being in a monopoly position. Maybe you can spell it out for us?
Well, while he spelled A-P-P-L-E, the only one with something resembling a monopoly in this case spells G-O-O-G-L-E.
Ignoring? I asked a reasonable question. Why would you imply I read that but somehow chose to ignore it?
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