Lockin is where you can't migrate. In your example the customer can migrate. That they don't want to spend the time doing so isn't relevant. The key of point of running Open Source software is that you can alway switch to someone else, or do it yourself.
It's why I would never buy a car I couldn't, or wasn't allowed to open the hood of the car. That said opening the hood of my car doesn't do me any good. The engine doesn't look anything like the ones I knew as a kid. I take it in for service at the dealer, and don't even change the oil myself. Why because it would be far more effort myself, and I trust the dealer where I bought it. At the same time I know if I have issues with the dealer I can always take it some where else.
With open source software you can always hire someone to fix any issue that your vendor will not address. It may cost you, and may not be worth it, but you have that option. I know a couple of companies who discovered bugs in windows that left them unable to run their app. In one case they located the bug in the windows source code, and offered to pay MS for the developer time, or hire some one themselves to no avail.
Get past the beta stage. Simple it was a purely marketing decision. Either they rushed it to market before they completed a full beta cycle. Or they knew about the bug and figured they'd fix it later. This common in the industry. That's why the 1st I do when I get a product hardware or software I look for an update. Also why I never buy something when it 1st comes out.
Hmm I think you are right if Sveasoft isn't allowing you to download the source code. In that case they'd need to send anyone a copy of the source code for $49. Rather foolish of them. They'd be far better off allowing downloads of the source via their subscription service.
On point #1 you may misunderstanding what they are saying. In addition to not carefully read subsection C.I think they are just explaining the GPL for you. Sveasoft doesn't have to give you source, and in fact if you download a binary they don't need to allow you download it at a later date. (Provided they allowed you to download both.)
The end of the GPL Section 3: "If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code."
Now here's where it gets hairy. Sveasoft has use the method in subsection A: "a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,"
You can only use the methd in subsection c if you got the code via the method in subsection b. See subsection c: "Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)"
Thus Sveasoft is simply reminding you of your responsibilities under the GPL.
Seeing it out of order really destroyed the experience for me. My biggest complaint was that it was rather disjointed. I really wasn't a big fan until I watched it on DVD. Personally I'd rather watch the FireFly DVD again than anything Fox is currently showing.
Suse 9.1 is relatively free of non-free in it's default install. (In fact I've not aware of any non free packages in my install.) Suse/Novell has been very good about GPLing a lot of their linux stuff.
That said there is a bunch of non free stuff on the Professional version, but to install it. You'll need to fire up yast after the install to install it.
The ftp install will be avaible next month.
PS- I really recommend shelling out $30-$90 as having the media on hand for an install makes things faster, and simpler. Also the professional edition comes with both x86, and amd64 plus two ~500 page manuals.
More is not always better. In fact you could argue that women are superior due to the fact they have nearly twice as many genes on their extra X that we do on the Y.
Sure the extra genes are the same type of genes on the other X chromosome, but they can code for differnet expressions. Remember that women rarely ever get most types of baldness, most types of color blindness, Hemophilia, and so on. For women to suffer from the above disorders they need a gene on both X chromosomes.
Yahoo in the past has never done their own search engine. They've used a number of backends including google. This is has been true up until they aquired Inktomi. Late last year they launched Yahoo search using Inktomi's search engine.
Isn't this the same Ashcroft who had some poor Canadian pulled off a plane. (Which was making a stop over in the US.) Deported him to Syria, and told them he's a terrorist. After about a year Syria deported him home, and said they were sure he wasn't.
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/10/16/arar021016 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109153,00.htm l
Imagine if you will. That you had a network upload feature. Now imagine how that would change so many interactions. Not to mention the effect that it would have on police and muggers.
My feeling is having talked with some of the Novell people during the early days of the merger. The Suse Linux product will become much more like Red Hat Linux was. I'm fairly sure that you will see the following products suse 9.1 products free download/w isos, basic cdrom with installation support and manuals, and profession with some additional non free stuff. Of course I'm just guessing, but I get the feeling Novell intends to open things up a lot.
Remember that Novell isn't in the Linux distro business. Suse is a way for Novell to sell services, and additional enterprise software around. That and counter blance MS, and RH. Let's face it if Intel, and IBM actually liked Red Hat. Suse would have been out of business long ago. Then again having dealt with RH selling their RHEL product. I'm beginning to understand the feeling.
Suse has let you do a free network install for a long while. Go go take a look at ftp.suse.com or any sus mirror. Sure they don't provide iso, but you can easily do a network install faster than downloading the whole bloody thing.
http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/ftp/int_ mi rrors.html suse
Read the GPL again. Nothing requires you to give away the source to a GPL program. You need to provide source to anyone you give modified binaries to. Thus if the NSA kept it in house they could keep it to themselves. In addition they could in theroy provide to other classified agencies. Who in turn would be able to keep it in house.
I'm in favor of how Tivo handles this. I want the networks to know what I like. I want advertisers to know what commercials I actually watch. That way they can actually write stuff I want to watch.
I think the paralegal knows a bit more about law than you. You can't just bring a lawsuit in order to go fishing. You need some sort of evidence of wrong doing. This is why the judge has suspended SCO's discovery until SCO proves it has any sort of case.
The GPL can't force you to open source anything. All it can do is prevent you from distributing binaries. IBM would have to either open source it, or remove the code to be able to distribute. In theory the owners of the code in question could also sue for damages.
QT is open source and a good library. The only major issue is that it's GPL instead of LGPL like GTK. Depending on your view not being able to link comerial apps for free may be a good thing.
Has everyone forgotten the dot era so soon? With the right hype. You can drive the stock price up to insane levels. This is exactly what SCO has done. What you should really look at is what SCO insiders are doing.
There will be unofficial updates for testing, but the big boys will holding off for months. Doesn't anyone remember the pain and suffering of 2.4.0-2.4.12? Linus and co ripped out, and replaced the vm code twice in the 2.4.0 to 2.4.11 time frame.
Red Hat didn't release a 2.4 kernel untill 2.4.7, and pretty much everyone considered it broken. Sure gentoo and the rest of the bleeding edge are already running 2.6.
You would need to release source for your kernel modifications. User space apps would only need to be GPLed if you used GPLed code, or linked to a GPLed library.
Keep in mind many library are LGPLed which allows linking. Glibc, and gtk are good examples of LGPL libraries. QT, and readline are good examples of ones that are not.
I suspect that this will be a part of "Fedora Extras, Fedora Alternatives, Fedora Legacy", or will be kept in some sort of external respository like debian does with certain packages. With yum, or apt-get adding an additional respository is easy.
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Lockin is where you can't migrate. In your example the customer can migrate. That they don't want to spend the time doing so isn't relevant. The key of point of running Open Source software is that you can alway switch to someone else, or do it yourself.
It's why I would never buy a car I couldn't, or wasn't allowed to open the hood of the car. That said opening the hood of my car doesn't do me any good. The engine doesn't look anything like the ones I knew as a kid. I take it in for service at the dealer, and don't even change the oil myself. Why because it would be far more effort myself, and I trust the dealer where I bought it. At the same time I know if I have issues with the dealer I can always take it some where else.
With open source software you can always hire someone to fix any issue that your vendor will not address. It may cost you, and may not be worth it, but you have that option. I know a couple of companies who discovered bugs in windows that left them unable to run their app. In one case they located the bug in the windows source code, and offered to pay MS for the developer time, or hire some one themselves to no avail.
Get past the beta stage. Simple it was a purely marketing decision. Either they rushed it to market before they completed a full beta cycle. Or they knew about the bug and figured they'd fix it later. This common in the industry. That's why the 1st I do when I get a product hardware or software I look for an update. Also why I never buy something when it 1st comes out.
Hmm I think you are right if Sveasoft isn't allowing you to download the source code. In that case they'd need to send anyone a copy of the source code for $49. Rather foolish of them. They'd be far better off allowing downloads of the source via their subscription service.
On point #1 you may misunderstanding what they are saying. In addition to not carefully read subsection C.I think they are just explaining the GPL for you. Sveasoft doesn't have to give you source, and in fact if you download a binary they don't need to allow you download it at a later date. (Provided they allowed you to download both.)
The end of the GPL Section 3:
"If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code."
Now here's where it gets hairy. Sveasoft has use the method in subsection A:
"a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,"
You can only use the methd in subsection c if you got the code via the method in subsection b. See subsection c:
"Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)"
Thus Sveasoft is simply reminding you of your responsibilities under the GPL.
Seeing it out of order really destroyed the experience for me. My biggest complaint was that it was rather disjointed. I really wasn't a big fan until I watched it on DVD. Personally I'd rather watch the FireFly DVD again than anything Fox is currently showing.
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Suse 9.1 is relatively free of non-free in it's default install. (In fact I've not aware of any non free packages in my install.) Suse/Novell has been very good about GPLing a lot of their linux stuff.
That said there is a bunch of non free stuff on the Professional version, but to install it. You'll need to fire up yast after the install to install it.
The ftp install will be avaible next month.
PS- I really recommend shelling out $30-$90 as having the media on hand for an install makes things faster, and simpler. Also the professional edition comes with both x86, and amd64 plus two ~500 page manuals.
More is not always better. In fact you could argue that women are superior due to the fact they have nearly twice as many genes on their extra X that we do on the Y.
Sure the extra genes are the same type of genes on the other X chromosome, but they can code for differnet expressions. Remember that women rarely ever get most types of baldness, most types of color blindness, Hemophilia, and so on. For women to suffer from the above disorders they need a gene on both X chromosomes.
Yahoo in the past has never done their own search engine. They've used a number of backends including google. This is has been true up until they aquired Inktomi. Late last year they launched Yahoo search using Inktomi's search engine.
Isn't this the same Ashcroft who had some poor Canadian pulled off a plane. (Which was making a stop over in the US.) Deported him to Syria, and told them he's a terrorist. After about a year Syria deported him home, and said they were sure he wasn't.
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http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/10/16/arar021016
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109153,00.ht
Imagine if you will. That you had a network upload feature. Now imagine how that would change so many interactions. Not to mention the effect that it would have on police and muggers.
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My feeling is having talked with some of the Novell people during the early days of the merger. The Suse Linux product will become much more like Red Hat Linux was. I'm fairly sure that you will see the following products suse 9.1 products free download /w isos, basic cdrom with installation support and manuals, and profession with some additional non free stuff. Of course I'm just guessing, but I get the feeling Novell intends to open things up a lot.
Remember that Novell isn't in the Linux distro business. Suse is a way for Novell to sell services, and additional enterprise software around. That and counter blance MS, and RH. Let's face it if Intel, and IBM actually liked Red Hat. Suse would have been out of business long ago. Then again having dealt with RH selling their RHEL product. I'm beginning to understand the feeling.
Suse has let you do a free network install for a long while. Go go take a look at ftp.suse.com or any sus mirror. Sure they don't provide iso, but you can easily do a network install faster than downloading the whole bloody thing.
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Now I'm having visions of David Gerrold's Gobal Ethics courses from "A Matter for Men".
I think me meant Western States as in US, Europe, and so on.
Read the GPL again. Nothing requires you to give away the source to a GPL program. You need to provide source to anyone you give modified binaries to. Thus if the NSA kept it in house they could keep it to themselves. In addition they could in theroy provide to other classified agencies. Who in turn would be able to keep it in house.
I'm in favor of how Tivo handles this. I want the networks to know what I like. I want advertisers to know what commercials I actually watch. That way they can actually write stuff I want to watch.
I think the paralegal knows a bit more about law than you. You can't just bring a lawsuit in order to go fishing. You need some sort of evidence of wrong doing. This is why the judge has suspended SCO's discovery until SCO proves it has any sort of case.
The GPL can't force you to open source anything. All it can do is prevent you from distributing binaries. IBM would have to either open source it, or remove the code to be able to distribute. In theory the owners of the code in question could also sue for damages.
QT is open source and a good library. The only major issue is that it's GPL instead of LGPL like GTK. Depending on your view not being able to link comerial apps for free may be a good thing.
Has everyone forgotten the dot era so soon? With the right hype. You can drive the stock price up to insane levels. This is exactly what SCO has done. What you should really look at is what SCO insiders are doing.
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Hmm they appear to be selling like crazy.
There will be unofficial updates for testing, but the big boys will holding off for months. Doesn't anyone remember the pain and suffering of 2.4.0-2.4.12? Linus and co ripped out, and replaced the vm code twice in the 2.4.0 to 2.4.11 time frame.
Red Hat didn't release a 2.4 kernel untill 2.4.7, and pretty much everyone considered it broken. Sure gentoo and the rest of the bleeding edge are already running 2.6.
You would need to release source for your kernel modifications. User space apps would only need to be GPLed if you used GPLed code, or linked to a GPLed library.
Keep in mind many library are LGPLed which allows linking. Glibc, and gtk are good examples of LGPL libraries. QT, and readline are good examples of ones that are not.
I suspect that this will be a part of "Fedora Extras, Fedora Alternatives, Fedora Legacy", or will be kept in some sort of external respository like debian does with certain packages. With yum, or apt-get adding an additional respository is easy.