Any language will have single words that express concepts that are hard to convey in other languages or which capture the essence better. There may, of course, be something lost in the translation.
However, if you are bi or multi-lingual I have no doubt you find yourself switching momentarily to the other language to express something better. I do this regularly with Japanese. (so many fun homonyms!!)
This is not to be confused with using foreign words just to appear cool. ("That je ne sais quoi")
The thing about Japanese is the almost uncontrolled borrowing and use of foreign words where a native equivalent could have easily been used or created. Chinese does this to a great extent in written discourse but conversation, especially among Chinese outside of China/Taiwan/Singapore will contain borrowed words or an English word in the middle of a sentence, for example "computer" instead of "diHn louh" (Cantonese)
It's only because of what the last NDP government did to us, that we did that to them.
For those outside of BC, the 95% majority government of the past 5+ years went to a 1% minority overnight in a truly democratic election. Wasting C$400M on fast ferries we REALLY don't need and blatantly lying about budgets didn't help.
I entered and printed certificates for all the kids in my son's class. They all thought this was WAY cool. Definitely got some more interested in space exploration.
I have a Prime Minister,
not a President.
I speak English and French,
NOT American.
and I pronouce it 'about',
NOT 'a boot'.
I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack.
I believe in peace keeping, NOT policing.
diversity, NOT assimilation,
AND THAT THE BEAVER IS A TRULY PROUD AND NOBLE ANIMAL.
A TOQUE IS A HAT,
A CHESTERFIELD IS A COUCH,
AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!
CANADA IS THE SECOND LARGEST LANDMASS!
THE FIRST NATION OF HOCKEY!
AND THE BEST PART OF NORTH AMERICA!
Mis-used is the word. Counted the number of "I've never been to Japan but I heard that..." postings in this thread?
Seems that any time there's a discussion about a foreign country we see "I've never been to (fill in country name) but don't they (fill in painfully ignorant, stereotypical viewpoint).
z@ph0d: Lifetime-employment died with the bursting bubble.
Geekoid: The term is karo-shi. Also died with the bursting bubble.
As Riktov has pointed out, the younger employees, especially coders, are VERY mobile and talent scouts will park outside Koei waiting to pounce on their best and brightest. They have a VERY good reason to be secretive.
I am only advocating the position that you shouldn't post critiques or "expert opinion" about another culture unless you have direct, long-term experience of that culture. This could be either as a native or a foreign long-term resident. At some point, unless you do isolate yourself in ethnic ghetto, you will "get" the culture and be able to provide informed insights and opinions to those outside that culture.
A Korean that has lived in the States for some time, an especially one that has interacted actively with American society will be able to offer an informed explanation of America back in Korea. What we are seeing is the equivalent of a Korean in Korea saying "I've never been to the States but I heard that everyone in America owns a gun." It's possible to for this opinion based upon news reports, movies and websites, but in the end it's just wrong.
Unfortunately what I am talking about is going on rampantly in the "Employers Who Hold Back Employees" thread. Count the number of posts saying "I've never been to Japan but I heard that..." which then proceed to offer outdated, misunderstood or just plain WRONG information.
I spent the first 8 years of my life in England but won't offer any opinion on the current state of the U.K as I haven't been back for over 10 years. I lived in Japan from 1986 to 1996 and can offer some general viewpoints, but the country changed so much just in the 10 years I was there that I would be cautious about offering professional advice on how things are this year.
Spam in the place where I live (ham and pork)
Think about nutrition, wonder what's inside it now (oh boy)
Spam in my luchbox at work (it's the best)
Really makes a darn good sandwhich any way you slice it at all
If you're running low, go to the store
Carry some money to help you buy more
The tab is there to open the can
The can is there to hold in the spam
Oh, spam on the table at home (ham and pork)
Think about selection, are there different flavors now (let's eat)
Spam in my office at work (it's the best)
Think about the stuff its made from, wonder if it's mystery of meat
If you need a spoon, keep one around
Carry a thermose to help wash it down
Now, if there's some left, don't just throw it out
Use it for spackle or bathroom grout, now
Spam in my pantry at home (have some more)
Think of expiration, better read the lable (oh boy)
Spam breakfast, dinner, or lunch (it's the best)
Think about how it's been precooked, wonder if I'll just eat it cold
Now, once you start in, you can't put it down
Don't leave it sitting or it'll turn brown
The key is going to open the tin
The tin is there to keep the spam in
Oh, spam (spam)
Ham and pork
Think about nutrition, wonder what's inside it now (oh boy)
Spam (spam)
It's the best
Really makes a darn good sandwhich any way you slice it
Spam in the place where I live (have some more)
Think about addiction, wonder if I'm a junkie now (let's eat)
Spam in the place where I work (you're obsessed)
Think about the way it's processed, wonder if it's some kind of meat
Spam in the back of my car (ham and pork)
Spam any place that you are (ham and pork)
The tab is there to open the can (spam any place that you are) (ham and pork)
The can is there to hold in the spam (spam any place that you are) (ham and pork)
Reading all the self-righteous flames here of the "of course we use microsoft.com!!!!" variety I can't help but wonder how you've all been taken by a rather nice piece of sarcasm.
Taco got thousands of e-mails about MS being down, an obviously major event, so to tweak you all he posts a "so what, who ever goes there?" story.
Think about it. REALLY think about it
Don't you feel silly now?
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Taco means octopus in Japanese.
It also means idiot.
Read your own quote. They are talking about software innovation, not hardware or cars. How many apps are you using started off in Japan?
It is indeed the Japanese software industry that has, does, and always will lag because to release software with the amount of bugs present in American software is just NOT culturally acceptable.
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Ah yes. The Starlost.
Another great example of something that could have been great but through typical Canadian Strict Second-Rate thinking became an embarrassment. No wonder Ellison disowned it.
The model of the Ark was pretty cool. I even called up CTV asking for a poster of it. They sent me the program guide instead. (Long gone)
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Any language will have single words that express concepts that are hard to convey in other languages or which capture the essence better. There may, of course, be something lost in the translation.
However, if you are bi or multi-lingual I have no doubt you find yourself switching momentarily to the other language to express something better. I do this regularly with Japanese. (so many fun homonyms!!)
This is not to be confused with using foreign words just to appear cool. ("That je ne sais quoi")
Absolutely correct! Schadenfreude is what drives "America's Funniest Home Videos" and "Fear Factor" to the top of the Neilsen ratings.
Sounds MUCH better than "we like watching people get hurt".
The thing about Japanese is the almost uncontrolled borrowing and use of foreign words where a native equivalent could have easily been used or created. Chinese does this to a great extent in written discourse but conversation, especially among Chinese outside of China/Taiwan/Singapore will contain borrowed words or an English word in the middle of a sentence, for example "computer" instead of "diHn louh" (Cantonese)
In Japanese it would always be "conpyutaa".
Lame geek reaction to a woman.
See a female who ain't your mother,
run in circles, sweat and stutter.
From the article:
"...people like my husband would get crazy. He just wants to find pages that have his words."
Lesbian? Not. Competent? Hell, yes!
It's only because of what the last NDP government did to us, that we did that to them.
For those outside of BC, the 95% majority government of the past 5+ years went to a 1% minority overnight in a truly democratic election. Wasting C$400M on fast ferries we REALLY don't need and blatantly lying about budgets didn't help.
I entered and printed certificates for all the kids in my son's class. They all thought this was WAY cool. Definitely got some more interested in space exploration.
Then it crashed.
He's back! He's mad! and he's looking for a little pussy!
Small enough that they need to hang a ton of Hello-Kitty, Pokemon or other cute danglies off them which end up taking more space than the phone.
I have a Prime Minister, not a President.
I speak English and French, NOT American.
and I pronouce it 'about', NOT 'a boot'.
I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack.
I believe in peace keeping, NOT policing.
diversity, NOT assimilation,
AND THAT THE BEAVER IS A TRULY PROUD AND NOBLE ANIMAL.
A TOQUE IS A HAT,
A CHESTERFIELD IS A COUCH,
AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!
CANADA IS THE SECOND LARGEST LANDMASS! THE FIRST NATION OF HOCKEY! AND THE BEST PART OF NORTH AMERICA!
Thank you.
Mis-used is the word. Counted the number of "I've never been to Japan but I heard that..." postings in this thread?
Seems that any time there's a discussion about a foreign country we see "I've never been to (fill in country name) but don't they (fill in painfully ignorant, stereotypical viewpoint).
z@ph0d: Lifetime-employment died with the bursting bubble.
Geekoid: The term is karo-shi. Also died with the bursting bubble.
As Riktov has pointed out, the younger employees, especially coders, are VERY mobile and talent scouts will park outside Koei waiting to pounce on their best and brightest. They have a VERY good reason to be secretive.
I am only advocating the position that you shouldn't post critiques or "expert opinion" about another culture unless you have direct, long-term experience of that culture. This could be either as a native or a foreign long-term resident. At some point, unless you do isolate yourself in ethnic ghetto, you will "get" the culture and be able to provide informed insights and opinions to those outside that culture.
A Korean that has lived in the States for some time, an especially one that has interacted actively with American society will be able to offer an informed explanation of America back in Korea. What we are seeing is the equivalent of a Korean in Korea saying "I've never been to the States but I heard that everyone in America owns a gun." It's possible to for this opinion based upon news reports, movies and websites, but in the end it's just wrong.
Unfortunately what I am talking about is going on rampantly in the "Employers Who Hold Back Employees" thread. Count the number of posts saying "I've never been to Japan but I heard that..." which then proceed to offer outdated, misunderstood or just plain WRONG information.
I spent the first 8 years of my life in England but won't offer any opinion on the current state of the U.K as I haven't been back for over 10 years. I lived in Japan from 1986 to 1996 and can offer some general viewpoints, but the country changed so much just in the 10 years I was there that I would be cautious about offering professional advice on how things are this year.
Then DON'T pretend to be able to comment on the society.
Amazing how many instant (insert country here) experts pop up whenever one of these stories happens.
"Spam"
Spam in the place where I live (ham and pork)
Think about nutrition, wonder what's inside it now (oh boy)
Spam in my luchbox at work (it's the best)
Really makes a darn good sandwhich any way you slice it at all
If you're running low, go to the store
Carry some money to help you buy more
The tab is there to open the can
The can is there to hold in the spam
Oh, spam on the table at home (ham and pork)
Think about selection, are there different flavors now (let's eat)
Spam in my office at work (it's the best)
Think about the stuff its made from, wonder if it's mystery of meat
If you need a spoon, keep one around
Carry a thermose to help wash it down
Now, if there's some left, don't just throw it out
Use it for spackle or bathroom grout, now
Spam in my pantry at home (have some more)
Think of expiration, better read the lable (oh boy)
Spam breakfast, dinner, or lunch (it's the best)
Think about how it's been precooked, wonder if I'll just eat it cold
Now, once you start in, you can't put it down
Don't leave it sitting or it'll turn brown
The key is going to open the tin
The tin is there to keep the spam in
Oh, spam (spam)
Ham and pork
Think about nutrition, wonder what's inside it now (oh boy)
Spam (spam)
It's the best
Really makes a darn good sandwhich any way you slice it
Spam in the place where I live (have some more)
Think about addiction, wonder if I'm a junkie now (let's eat)
Spam in the place where I work (you're obsessed)
Think about the way it's processed, wonder if it's some kind of meat
Spam in the back of my car (ham and pork)
Spam any place that you are (ham and pork)
The tab is there to open the can (spam any place that you are) (ham and pork)
The can is there to hold in the spam (spam any place that you are) (ham and pork)
Where were you two weeks ago?
We already hashed this out a couple of weeks ago in the RFC for Spammers thread.
Having less money available forces you to improvide chaper methods. Maybe they could pull it off.
Too bad an IMAX film can only holds 3 minutes of film. Then you'd have to get it back here to be developed....
*sigh* Still waiting for a high-bandwidth probe to NOT have the high-bandwidth antenna die at an inconvenient time.
Hacking 6502 assembler in '88???? A bit late weren't you?
Hell, I was doing that 10 years prior.
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Ashitaka? No! Tonight!
Click for a screenshot of the article you are now reading...
Beat me to it!
But would you spend the money for RealMyst?
Taco got thousands of e-mails about MS being down, an obviously major event, so to tweak you all he posts a "so what, who ever goes there?" story.
Think about it. REALLY think about it
Don't you feel silly now?
--
Taco means octopus in Japanese.
It also means idiot.
>I think we should stick with horses: they are pretty harmless and they eat grass that's available everywhere.
Which then produce gas we can run our cars on!!!
Read your own quote. They are talking about software innovation, not hardware or cars. How many apps are you using started off in Japan? It is indeed the Japanese software industry that has, does, and always will lag because to release software with the amount of bugs present in American software is just NOT culturally acceptable.
Ah yes. The Starlost.
Another great example of something that could have been great but through typical Canadian Strict Second-Rate thinking became an embarrassment. No wonder Ellison disowned it.
The model of the Ark was pretty cool. I even called up CTV asking for a poster of it. They sent me the program guide instead. (Long gone)
ichi ni san
shi go roku
shichi hachi ku
ju juichi juni
jusan jushi
jugo juroku jushichi
juhachi juku
niju
Very poetic.....