I think it is hard to deny that this the insurance industry did a number of this bill, but it is also false to say that Republicans didn't have any say in what went into it.
I'm looking for the part in any of your posts that says that non-Republicans wrote it. I can't seem to find it. Just because you say it happened, doesn't mean it is true.
The bill was passed almost a year later than your article was written. Your article is too old.
Never said the law was written by 6 people. You just said that republicans had no input in the bill when my link confirms that they actually did. My link is not an article, it is a timeline from the senate's own references, releases, and video hearings of the process this bill took to become law.
let's try it again with better spacing shall we?
A single republican may have not voted for the individual mandate, but they had input in writing this bill to be sure: http://www.finance.senate.gov/issue/?id=32be19bd-491e-4192-812f-f65215c1ba65
June 17th, 2009 Three Democratic and three Republican Finance Committee Members hold the first of 31 bipartisan meetings to discuss the development of a health care reform bill. Over the course of the next three months, this group, Baucus, Grassley, Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), met for more than 60 hours and the bipartisan principles they discussed became the foundation of the health care reform law.
I am shocked the site is still up actually. Anyway, I haven't looked into this, but I heard from someone more informed than I was that the individual mandate was not in the original bill, but was subsequently added when the insurance lobby got a hold of the original bill.
A single republican may have not voted for the individual mandate, but they had input in writing this bill to be sure:
http://www.finance.senate.gov/issue/?id=32be19bd-491e-4192-812f-f65215c1ba65
June 17th, 2009 Three Democratic and three Republican Finance Committee Members hold the first of 31 bipartisan meetings to discuss the development of a health care reform bill. Over the course of the next three months, this group, Baucus, Grassley, Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), met for more than 60 hours and the bipartisan principles they discussed became the foundation of the health care reform law.
I am shocked the site is still up actually. Anyway, I haven't looked into this, but I heard from someone more informed than I was that the individual mandate was not in the original bill, but was subsequently added when the insurance lobby got a hold of the original bill.
Capitalism depends on the free movement of three things, capital, goods and labour. Socialists and liberals don't want capitalism and they seek to regulate and limit free movement of one or all of the basic factors underlying capitalism. Border controls are a limit to free movement of labour, obviously.
and yet, in America, the GOP is the one so gung ho about border control.
The main difference between a socialist and a capitalist is that socialists think you shouldn't be rewarded for investment, only for work, IOW no reward for laziness.
That's funny, I wouldn't say that is the main difference. I would say the main difference is that private ownerships controls the means of production in capitalism while the profits go to that private owner(s), while in socialism the society (read workers) owns the means to production while profits go back to the worker/society at large.
they make my small sleepy town mega-rich and pose zero threat to the environment, save for a few birds that think they can fly through the spinning blades now and then.
I think the USA will more likely go with more salaried employees who work long hours and a huge class of folks barely surviving. The salaried workers will be told by the media that these folks unable to find jobs are why they must pay high taxes and work long hours. The owners will profit even more.
What do you me will? Some would say we are already there.
Next steps:
1) Claim as prior art
2) Sue google, amazon, and every other ecommerce retailer out there
3) Make a gazillion dollars
4) Sit at home watching tv, surfing the net, and spending money online
"There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the homicidal killer whale,.."
Homicidal . . . I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Must have been an awesome thought process for the reporter though:
There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the human killer whale. Oh wait. No, that doesn't work.
There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the homo-killer killer whale. That sounds stupid.
There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the killer killer whale. That sounds even worse.
There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the human killing killer whale.
Fuck it.
There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the homicidal killer whale.
Also in line with this: I can't imagine that way patents work actually help with the problem of inventing the wheel. You almost have to reinvent the wheel to create a working solution that won't get you sued.
You are correct in that these are just workshops.
Most of these hackerspaces are close to/in cities where many of the members live in apartments with no space for a workshop. Some members are college students who move back home for the summer. One advantage of these workshops is that the group as a whole are able to purchase large items that no one member could afford (think of it like tool sharing). A hackerspace by me has a laser engraver, for instances.
It must be nice to look back at your family who all seem to have a workshop. Unfortunately, expectations and behaviors change. Many younger folks move around a lot more, so purchasing equipment for a shop can be a hassle as you have to move it. Many years ago almost every high school had a shop and taught woodshop or mechnical trades or what have you. I am sorry to say that this isn't the case anymore. Budget cuts wreak havoc on those kinds of niceties.
-- patiently waiting for your "get off my lawn" response
This would have way more credibility if the NSA director had something like "We don't do this" or "That is incomplete" or "This guy is full of it", when the news first broke. But he has said that these types of surveillance has helped deter attacks.
If the 1st amendment were strictly adhered to, you couldn't sue someone for libel.
You mean if the 1st amendment were strictly adhered to, you couldn't be found guilty of libel as a crime, right?
Libel is generally involves a civil suit (which doesn't involve guilt or innocence), but some places make it a crime. In our case, federal law doesn't have libel crimes (due to the 1st amendment), but some states have criminal laws on the books for libel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law#Criminal_defamation
You could sue just about anyone for just about anything. Doesn't mean it is a valid argument and you'll win.
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I think it is hard to deny that this the insurance industry did a number of this bill, but it is also false to say that Republicans didn't have any say in what went into it.
I'm looking for the part in any of your posts that says that non-Republicans wrote it. I can't seem to find it. Just because you say it happened, doesn't mean it is true.
That nice, but this law was not written by 6 people. That is physically impossible.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/doug-heye/2010/01/05/c-span-demands-democrats-open-secret-health-reform-talks
The bill was passed almost a year later than your article was written. Your article is too old.
Never said the law was written by 6 people. You just said that republicans had no input in the bill when my link confirms that they actually did. My link is not an article, it is a timeline from the senate's own references, releases, and video hearings of the process this bill took to become law.
The secret meetings go both ways: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWLeabRedMM
I'm sorry democracy didn't work out for you this time.
let's try it again with better spacing shall we?
A single republican may have not voted for the individual mandate, but they had input in writing this bill to be sure:
http://www.finance.senate.gov/issue/?id=32be19bd-491e-4192-812f-f65215c1ba65
June 17th, 2009 Three Democratic and three Republican Finance Committee Members hold the first of 31 bipartisan meetings to discuss the development of a health care reform bill. Over the course of the next three months, this group, Baucus, Grassley, Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), met for more than 60 hours and the bipartisan principles they discussed became the foundation of the health care reform law.
I am shocked the site is still up actually. Anyway, I haven't looked into this, but I heard from someone more informed than I was that the individual mandate was not in the original bill, but was subsequently added when the insurance lobby got a hold of the original bill.
A single republican may have not voted for the individual mandate, but they had input in writing this bill to be sure: http://www.finance.senate.gov/issue/?id=32be19bd-491e-4192-812f-f65215c1ba65 June 17th, 2009 Three Democratic and three Republican Finance Committee Members hold the first of 31 bipartisan meetings to discuss the development of a health care reform bill. Over the course of the next three months, this group, Baucus, Grassley, Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), met for more than 60 hours and the bipartisan principles they discussed became the foundation of the health care reform law. I am shocked the site is still up actually. Anyway, I haven't looked into this, but I heard from someone more informed than I was that the individual mandate was not in the original bill, but was subsequently added when the insurance lobby got a hold of the original bill.
I stand corrected.
Capitalism depends on the free movement of three things, capital, goods and labour. Socialists and liberals don't want capitalism and they seek to regulate and limit free movement of one or all of the basic factors underlying capitalism. Border controls are a limit to free movement of labour, obviously.
and yet, in America, the GOP is the one so gung ho about border control.
The main difference between a socialist and a capitalist is that socialists think you shouldn't be rewarded for investment, only for work, IOW no reward for laziness.
That's funny, I wouldn't say that is the main difference. I would say the main difference is that private ownerships controls the means of production in capitalism while the profits go to that private owner(s), while in socialism the society (read workers) owns the means to production while profits go back to the worker/society at large.
No wonder we have trouble teaching kids science.
Sounds like you taught them just fine...learning on the other hand might be the problem.
they make my small sleepy town mega-rich and pose zero threat to the environment, save for a few birds that think they can fly through the spinning blades now and then.
and bats...don't forget the bats: http://trib.com/news/updates/wind-turbine-pressure-change-kills-bats-research-may-help-prevent/article_24b620cf-9e69-58e1-b638-32499d9ef11f.html
I think the USA will more likely go with more salaried employees who work long hours and a huge class of folks barely surviving. The salaried workers will be told by the media that these folks unable to find jobs are why they must pay high taxes and work long hours. The owners will profit even more.
What do you me will? Some would say we are already there.
Next steps:
1) Claim as prior art
2) Sue google, amazon, and every other ecommerce retailer out there
3) Make a gazillion dollars
4) Sit at home watching tv, surfing the net, and spending money online
You can buy anything on the internet except common sense.
"There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the homicidal killer whale,.."
Homicidal . . . I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Must have been an awesome thought process for the reporter though: There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the human killer whale. Oh wait. No, that doesn't work. There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the homo-killer killer whale. That sounds stupid. There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the killer killer whale. That sounds even worse. There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the human killing killer whale. Fuck it. There's an interesting read at National Geographic by Kenneth Brower that probes the case of Tilikum, the homicidal killer whale.
Adam Smith may have identified the Invisible Hand, but it has Darwin's fingerprints.
Please tell me you have this written down or etched in stone somewhere so we may never forget it.
Also in line with this: I can't imagine that way patents work actually help with the problem of inventing the wheel. You almost have to reinvent the wheel to create a working solution that won't get you sued.
lol
that would be George W. Bush.
http://www.fort.usgs.gov/BatsWindmills/
3...2....1....
You are correct in that these are just workshops. Most of these hackerspaces are close to/in cities where many of the members live in apartments with no space for a workshop. Some members are college students who move back home for the summer. One advantage of these workshops is that the group as a whole are able to purchase large items that no one member could afford (think of it like tool sharing). A hackerspace by me has a laser engraver, for instances. It must be nice to look back at your family who all seem to have a workshop. Unfortunately, expectations and behaviors change. Many younger folks move around a lot more, so purchasing equipment for a shop can be a hassle as you have to move it. Many years ago almost every high school had a shop and taught woodshop or mechnical trades or what have you. I am sorry to say that this isn't the case anymore. Budget cuts wreak havoc on those kinds of niceties. -- patiently waiting for your "get off my lawn" response
Whoops, meant to mod up, but accidentally hit redundant. Trying to undo moderation.
This would have way more credibility if the NSA director had something like "We don't do this" or "That is incomplete" or "This guy is full of it", when the news first broke. But he has said that these types of surveillance has helped deter attacks.
If the 1st amendment were strictly adhered to, you couldn't sue someone for libel.
You mean if the 1st amendment were strictly adhered to, you couldn't be found guilty of libel as a crime, right? Libel is generally involves a civil suit (which doesn't involve guilt or innocence), but some places make it a crime. In our case, federal law doesn't have libel crimes (due to the 1st amendment), but some states have criminal laws on the books for libel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law#Criminal_defamation You could sue just about anyone for just about anything. Doesn't mean it is a valid argument and you'll win.
Unless you know him to be younger, he might have actually voted for Nixon.