You can't possibly be real. I've been told time and time again that there are no TRUE Luddites unless you're Scottish but only a true Scotsman and not one of those fake-ass Scotsmen. Or something like that....regardless, here before me types a True Luddite therefore you must be a figment of my imagination...
Well aren't you just a killjoy! Part of the fun was sitting there with a stopwatch and doing an actual experiment to figure out the answer. BUT NOOOOOO, you just had to blurt out the answer and steal all the thunder. Now there is truly no point in playing a game that had no point:(
I hate to interrupt your diatribe about killer robots or whatever but the Thing did not have any software running on it at all. I don't even recall it having an electronic ignition!
That is because you are a person, not a government. Governments aren't supposed to be breaking even or making a profit. You can't print money nor dictate law like they can and that is why people get all pissed about it. I agree with you partially, move the money to a better project but as a government you don't have to pay down your debt. Depending on who you ask, Clinton had our books balanced and I think we were on a good track to pay it off. But those guys are only in there for 8 years tops. Look what happened when the next asshole showed up. Flushed it all down the drain and ran it up higher. It still keeps getting ran up to this day. So what would the point of paying it down be? I'd rather take the extra money that, for all I know just vanishes, and instead give it to NASA, NOAA, whoever so that they will employ people with good paying jobs who will actually have that money in hand and will buy real stuff built by others who have good jobs. They already printed that money and ran inflation up, so reallocation would at least in someway help offset that for us normal folks.
Yeah but isn't one of the arguments why Americans in general aren't particularly outraged is because he killed that dog that tried to kill your kid, you know it, you saw him do it, and you decided to give him a pass cause that was pretty cool of him. It's not like you were gonna kill that dog anyway since you were just standing there frozen in horror.
I don't believe this mind you, I just know the majority kind of expects the government is doing what it has to so you can do whatever it is you have to. You gotta trust em, somebody has to do that dirty work, and it certainly isn't gonna be that person.
They think that because it is the accepted standard. Read this FAQ which Wiki linked me to. I found it quite interesting and certainly learned a couple things. I particularly like the Six Degrees of Godwin game that is mentioned in there. May have to trot it out if I get bored- it'll be a gas!
Eh, it's all semantics. From the outside looking in, one can say "that guy has a right to free speech and not being beaten" but to that guy, if every time you open your mouth some authority smacks it with a baseball bat, you have no right to free speech. Eventually you'll learn to keep your mouth shut or die. To me anyways, if you cannot exercise a right then you do not have it all. The people with the power "give" you your rights in that sense.
Those 3 scenarios were not inclusive. Any car can catch fire in your garage, your driveway, the Walmart parking lot, whatever. That will most certainly concern you or someone nearby and that won't have anything to do with vehicle miles traveled. I'm afraid I can't consider myself educated on this subject. Anybody else with a clue stick?
I meant it when I said I wasn't being an ass...but since you are just sumdumass, I'll break it down dumbass-style.
I can read and write quite well, thanks. I proved nothing you said at all in the least-- I even clarified the statement for you. I made a list of all four of those scenarios and WHY YOUR POINT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER but YOU are too stupid to see it. You are freaking out about what-ifs and all the usual "er mah gerd shit is changing and I don't like it!" If you are healed then you still have your job so there IS NO GAP. YOUR POINT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. If you are on Gov disability, you will have a permanent fucking gap, as in you will never legally have a job again. It doesn't FUCKING MATTER. If you rode out your disability plan until it expired or they bought you off to close the case you are either so fucked up that you can't work and will eventually be on Gov disability (SO IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER) or you are a freeloading asshole who wants a free check and an opiate script AND I DON'T GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT YOU. You make it sound like this thing having a gap is somehow gonna blacklist you for life and the evil gubermint is somehow gonna imprison you or some shit. I really don't know what people like you think because it never makes a lick of fucking sense. You are trying to make a conspiracy theory out of nothing. I can't help it you had your head up your ass but you DID IT WRONG and now you seem bitter. That is your own damned fault. Even if you thought you didn't have enough money, you still could have went for a consultation. What was the worst they were gonna say? No? Haven't you ever been told no before? And before you might mention that being told no was a waste of time, your health is the only thing that is really important. Is your life not worth fighting over? That is the ultimate lazyass right there.
I was trying to be civil but you just wouldn't have any of it would you? Sumdumasses are like that. I, like Slashdot, believe in karma (not the spiritual Buddhist stuff, just the idea of doing good rewards good). There is a reason that barrel fell on your dumb ass. Probably because you are total prick in real life, you didn't get it then and still don't get it now, and continue to being a spiteful old fuck. More bad luck will be heading your way no doubt. And because of me pointing out all of this my Slashdot karma will suffer as well...I somehow can't be bothered to give a rat's ass.
required them to miss work, there will be a gap in their employment record
Well I found it strange that you asserted knowledge that I could clearly invalidate. I don't see where I proved any of your point but perspective is perspective. I'll clarify.
So you were laid off after the claim was over evidently (that "after" you stated isn't clear enough). My statement was that you aren't laid off while the case is open ("on workman's comp") or on FMLA or long term insurance plans. Once the claim is closed, all bets are off as you found out. If you make it back to work in a condition that has been cleared by your doctor as good-to-go (for the lack of an official term) then the gap won't be there. If you take Gov disability because you are too broken then you won't be looking for work so the gap doesn't matter. If you settle with the long term insurance company or if you ride it out until it expires then it is possible that you'll switch right over to Gov disability (they'll make it a PITA though) and the gap won't matter. If one were riding it out just because they're a freeloader type then your point could be valid as they will need to somehow earn an income again and that gap would be there. Most of us hate freeloaders though so why would we care?
I wasn't trying to be an ass (I'm blunt when I speak), you just claim that there will be gaps in employment during the cases and if you had one personally, I'm sorry but you did it wrong hindsight being 20/20 and all. Also in your case, and keep this in mind should a future event arise, the statute of limitations has probably already run out so you can't go back but many lawyers do cases of that nature as a percentage of the payout with no money up front, so never justify lack of action because you are too poor. The guy next to me has paid few fees out of pocket (mostly court fees, about $200) but his lawyer gets 20% once they settle. This is why time and time again, I tell everyone when something happens to you that was no fault of your own and it is a life changer, then you lawyer up. Period. You had those options back then man, you just thought you didn't. I do hope you're either back to work, on disability, or at least living well with your impairment. Workplace injuries can be minimized (never 100% eliminated but we can get damned close) and it is a downright crime in my book for an employer to use you to his profit and then throw you in the trash when they are done with you. That is one of the core reasons the Unions formed back in the day. I am behind OSHA 100% on this. We (as a nation) keep screaming about more government transparency and there is no reason whatsoever that this shouldn't be expanded to the mini-governments we call corporations. You actually have to deal with your employer daily in a direct way so what happens at work, from your perspective, should be much more important than what goes on in Washington (not to say it should be ignored).
I am curious why people keep saying this. People always want to change any statistic to a per mile traveled figure and in some cases it could be warranted. In this case though, a car could catch fire sitting in the dealer lot, on the back of the semi hauling it there from factory, or even on the assembly line. What makes those fires any less important than a car that has been driven for a year or 2 or 10? Educate me please.
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Got yer Citation right here! Seems Citations had a little fire problem themselves, at least according to Jalopnik. Wiki does say they had shitty brakes and steering issues but no mention of fire.
Well you evidently haven't had to file a workman's comp claim at a real employer (ie not fast food or walmart). You are not "fired" when on workman's comp or even if you have to take FMLA or use a long term disability plan (cause your injury wasn't at work). You are still an employee so no gaps will show until you accept Gov disability or your long term disability plan runs out or you guys make a settlement. I know this first hand- the guy sitting next to me is currently suing our employer for laying him off while on workman's comp. He is going to win if they take it to court but our company always settles so either way, pay day.
I realize you said "tend" but you won't find a more atheist atheist than I sir (or ma'am)! I'm not a conservative, libertarian, or pastafarian either (though I like to play one on the Internet- May you be touched by His noodly appendage YARR!), just for the record. Besides, why are you trying to make this an "us vs them" thing anyway? You need us engineers to build your stuff and we need you researchers to come up with new stuff to build! Why is it everyone these days always has to play the pick-a-side game? Just like my reply regarding the trans-fat above, moderation is the key to all things. As a scientist you should already know that when presented with a this-or-that choice, that there are actually 4 choices you can make- this, that, neither, or both. Now I'm sure this is the engineering me talking here but I like to pick the option that has the best chance for a successful outcome. Usually it ends up being the "both" option.
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We can do it that way, sure. It'll be just as effective as weighing each guy (with or without carrot nose of course) against a duck.
No mod points for a Homestar reference gives me a sad :(
Seems like we have a bunch of dumbasses on here to me. L2SPEEL n00b
You can't possibly be real. I've been told time and time again that there are no TRUE Luddites unless you're Scottish but only a true Scotsman and not one of those fake-ass Scotsmen. Or something like that....regardless, here before me types a True Luddite therefore you must be a figment of my imagination...
Well aren't you just a killjoy! Part of the fun was sitting there with a stopwatch and doing an actual experiment to figure out the answer. BUT NOOOOOO, you just had to blurt out the answer and steal all the thunder. Now there is truly no point in playing a game that had no point :(
If you make a typo then the Errorists win!
I hate to interrupt your diatribe about killer robots or whatever but the Thing did not have any software running on it at all. I don't even recall it having an electronic ignition!
....it's a bad joke...c'mon laugh!
That is because you are a person, not a government. Governments aren't supposed to be breaking even or making a profit. You can't print money nor dictate law like they can and that is why people get all pissed about it. I agree with you partially, move the money to a better project but as a government you don't have to pay down your debt. Depending on who you ask, Clinton had our books balanced and I think we were on a good track to pay it off. But those guys are only in there for 8 years tops. Look what happened when the next asshole showed up. Flushed it all down the drain and ran it up higher. It still keeps getting ran up to this day. So what would the point of paying it down be? I'd rather take the extra money that, for all I know just vanishes, and instead give it to NASA, NOAA, whoever so that they will employ people with good paying jobs who will actually have that money in hand and will buy real stuff built by others who have good jobs. They already printed that money and ran inflation up, so reallocation would at least in someway help offset that for us normal folks.
Yeah but isn't one of the arguments why Americans in general aren't particularly outraged is because he killed that dog that tried to kill your kid, you know it, you saw him do it, and you decided to give him a pass cause that was pretty cool of him. It's not like you were gonna kill that dog anyway since you were just standing there frozen in horror.
I don't believe this mind you, I just know the majority kind of expects the government is doing what it has to so you can do whatever it is you have to. You gotta trust em, somebody has to do that dirty work, and it certainly isn't gonna be that person.
They think that because it is the accepted standard. Read this FAQ which Wiki linked me to. I found it quite interesting and certainly learned a couple things. I particularly like the Six Degrees of Godwin game that is mentioned in there. May have to trot it out if I get bored- it'll be a gas!
Eh, it's all semantics. From the outside looking in, one can say "that guy has a right to free speech and not being beaten" but to that guy, if every time you open your mouth some authority smacks it with a baseball bat, you have no right to free speech. Eventually you'll learn to keep your mouth shut or die. To me anyways, if you cannot exercise a right then you do not have it all. The people with the power "give" you your rights in that sense.
Those 3 scenarios were not inclusive. Any car can catch fire in your garage, your driveway, the Walmart parking lot, whatever. That will most certainly concern you or someone nearby and that won't have anything to do with vehicle miles traveled. I'm afraid I can't consider myself educated on this subject. Anybody else with a clue stick?
I meant it when I said I wasn't being an ass...but since you are just sumdumass, I'll break it down dumbass-style.
I can read and write quite well, thanks. I proved nothing you said at all in the least-- I even clarified the statement for you. I made a list of all four of those scenarios and WHY YOUR POINT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER but YOU are too stupid to see it. You are freaking out about what-ifs and all the usual "er mah gerd shit is changing and I don't like it!" If you are healed then you still have your job so there IS NO GAP. YOUR POINT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. If you are on Gov disability, you will have a permanent fucking gap, as in you will never legally have a job again. It doesn't FUCKING MATTER. If you rode out your disability plan until it expired or they bought you off to close the case you are either so fucked up that you can't work and will eventually be on Gov disability (SO IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER) or you are a freeloading asshole who wants a free check and an opiate script AND I DON'T GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT YOU. You make it sound like this thing having a gap is somehow gonna blacklist you for life and the evil gubermint is somehow gonna imprison you or some shit. I really don't know what people like you think because it never makes a lick of fucking sense. You are trying to make a conspiracy theory out of nothing. I can't help it you had your head up your ass but you DID IT WRONG and now you seem bitter. That is your own damned fault. Even if you thought you didn't have enough money, you still could have went for a consultation. What was the worst they were gonna say? No? Haven't you ever been told no before? And before you might mention that being told no was a waste of time, your health is the only thing that is really important. Is your life not worth fighting over? That is the ultimate lazyass right there.
I was trying to be civil but you just wouldn't have any of it would you? Sumdumasses are like that. I, like Slashdot, believe in karma (not the spiritual Buddhist stuff, just the idea of doing good rewards good). There is a reason that barrel fell on your dumb ass. Probably because you are total prick in real life, you didn't get it then and still don't get it now, and continue to being a spiteful old fuck. More bad luck will be heading your way no doubt. And because of me pointing out all of this my Slashdot karma will suffer as well...I somehow can't be bothered to give a rat's ass.
Forget it then!
Yeah, he's overreacting. I bet he'd find it in less than 12 parsecs.
Well I found it strange that you asserted knowledge that I could clearly invalidate. I don't see where I proved any of your point but perspective is perspective. I'll clarify.
So you were laid off after the claim was over evidently (that "after" you stated isn't clear enough). My statement was that you aren't laid off while the case is open ("on workman's comp") or on FMLA or long term insurance plans. Once the claim is closed, all bets are off as you found out. If you make it back to work in a condition that has been cleared by your doctor as good-to-go (for the lack of an official term) then the gap won't be there. If you take Gov disability because you are too broken then you won't be looking for work so the gap doesn't matter. If you settle with the long term insurance company or if you ride it out until it expires then it is possible that you'll switch right over to Gov disability (they'll make it a PITA though) and the gap won't matter. If one were riding it out just because they're a freeloader type then your point could be valid as they will need to somehow earn an income again and that gap would be there. Most of us hate freeloaders though so why would we care?
I wasn't trying to be an ass (I'm blunt when I speak), you just claim that there will be gaps in employment during the cases and if you had one personally, I'm sorry but you did it wrong hindsight being 20/20 and all. Also in your case, and keep this in mind should a future event arise, the statute of limitations has probably already run out so you can't go back but many lawyers do cases of that nature as a percentage of the payout with no money up front, so never justify lack of action because you are too poor. The guy next to me has paid few fees out of pocket (mostly court fees, about $200) but his lawyer gets 20% once they settle. This is why time and time again, I tell everyone when something happens to you that was no fault of your own and it is a life changer, then you lawyer up. Period. You had those options back then man, you just thought you didn't. I do hope you're either back to work, on disability, or at least living well with your impairment. Workplace injuries can be minimized (never 100% eliminated but we can get damned close) and it is a downright crime in my book for an employer to use you to his profit and then throw you in the trash when they are done with you. That is one of the core reasons the Unions formed back in the day. I am behind OSHA 100% on this. We (as a nation) keep screaming about more government transparency and there is no reason whatsoever that this shouldn't be expanded to the mini-governments we call corporations. You actually have to deal with your employer daily in a direct way so what happens at work, from your perspective, should be much more important than what goes on in Washington (not to say it should be ignored).
Irrelevant. People get whiplash in modern car accidents.
I am curious why people keep saying this. People always want to change any statistic to a per mile traveled figure and in some cases it could be warranted. In this case though, a car could catch fire sitting in the dealer lot, on the back of the semi hauling it there from factory, or even on the assembly line. What makes those fires any less important than a car that has been driven for a year or 2 or 10? Educate me please.
What was your point?
Got yer Citation right here!
Seems Citations had a little fire problem themselves, at least according to Jalopnik. Wiki does say they had shitty brakes and steering issues but no mention of fire.
Well you evidently haven't had to file a workman's comp claim at a real employer (ie not fast food or walmart). You are not "fired" when on workman's comp or even if you have to take FMLA or use a long term disability plan (cause your injury wasn't at work). You are still an employee so no gaps will show until you accept Gov disability or your long term disability plan runs out or you guys make a settlement. I know this first hand- the guy sitting next to me is currently suing our employer for laying him off while on workman's comp. He is going to win if they take it to court but our company always settles so either way, pay day.
I realize you said "tend" but you won't find a more atheist atheist than I sir (or ma'am)! I'm not a conservative, libertarian, or pastafarian either (though I like to play one on the Internet- May you be touched by His noodly appendage YARR!), just for the record. Besides, why are you trying to make this an "us vs them" thing anyway? You need us engineers to build your stuff and we need you researchers to come up with new stuff to build! Why is it everyone these days always has to play the pick-a-side game? Just like my reply regarding the trans-fat above, moderation is the key to all things. As a scientist you should already know that when presented with a this-or-that choice, that there are actually 4 choices you can make- this, that, neither, or both. Now I'm sure this is the engineering me talking here but I like to pick the option that has the best chance for a successful outcome. Usually it ends up being the "both" option.
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What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Viscious is the word you are looking for. Viscous means thick and gooey maybe like a jellyfish. Good one!