I don't know if either method would stand up in court anywhere, but it is two places to start planning for your future documentation needs.
Another thing, although costly, can't one just create a 35 mm film from something like this http://www.colorslide.com/artists.html? (just my first result from a google search, but there are equipment for this on the market).
The point of evidence, though, is to show that it hasn't been tampered with from the gathering until used in court, that's true for any kind of evidence. With the right tools that can be done with digital photos.
In Norway security guards are not allowed to carry weapons. The robbers were armed, and I think they fired warning shots. Any sane person would have stood still until it was over.
No alarms or anything else would have helped, because the painting was on the wall and accessible.
The canvas was cut out of the frame, so no securing of the frame would have been of any help.
The only thing which would have helped would have been closing down the room with the robber, but that would have risked the wellbeing of the other people in the same room, there were at least one other person in there with the robber.
XV is a gold mine. It has just the function set needed for most operations you'd like to do quickly. Crop, resize, a few color management options and different save and load formats.
It is small and quick to open. I think it has the exact features you need for digicam work (as you do) or pre-web-publishing work (creating cropped thumnails instead of resiezed ones).
Thanks for reminding me of it, it has been a couple of years since I used it daily.
AFAIK forest fires are natural. Our fight to control forestfires makes forests less vital. A good and normal forestfire gives room for a different flora and fauna than which a forest has.
Our continual fight against forest fires makes it easier for future fires to gain catastrophic proportions. (Ie. we protect a lot of land against forest fires; a few dry years come, and wooosh, a lot more burns than if the normal cycle of events were allowed.)
Paul
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Which counter? Is it widely used (ie. in large commercial sites)?
If I remember things correctly the US patent office doesn't have to prove anything. They just decide if the patent is valid within guidelines.
Prior art is somthing which are used in challenges to the patent.
In Europe it is a bit different, there you have to give reasonable assurances that it is something new and that prior art doesn't exist.
In fact I think that most of the work of European patent agents is to help you prove that no prior art doesn't exist.
I guess the American agencies help you broaden the patent as much as possible, including almost everything, and then the challenge process will narrow it down to a point where it sticks.
I owe you a beverage of your choice, this really was an interesting link. Perhaps I might create a custom made case, since with the right tools I don't mind doing the job.
They also have a lot of other interesting hole punchers. I'm going to read through their site and see what ideas pops up. I do have several years of electronics experience as well as my computer experience.
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http://zez.org/
I've been looking around a lot, but everything I've found has been 7/8 slot solutions or raid solutions for rack mount.
Those people who have answered here has been of tremendous help. They've pointed me in new directions as well as helped me to find the pci-2-pci bridges which are used by Digidesign.
I knew something like this was available, but my searches always turned up normal tower or smaller cases. I generally do my research before asking, and I got a bit frustrated looking around and not finding what I needed.
I don't like the insinuitation that I did this as my first place to find info, that really goes against my grain. I've thought myself most of the stuff I know of computers and programming, as well as having a formal degree. I know how frustrating it is to have people comming and ask what for you is an obvious question.
Thanks for the company names you gave me. Now I just have to find someone selling this in Scandinavia, but that's a breeze when I know what to look for.
I must say that this discussion has opened my eyes for a lot of cool hardware. Much of it is pretty inexpensive as well.
Now I just need to find USD 2000,- to buy that Digidesign rack.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Did I mention that I do professional audio? Most of the stuff I do is via ADAT interfaces, going from the computer to different D/A and A/D converters (24 bit stuff). I also use scsi for connecting to samplers.
Finally, my computer is loaded with harddrives in drive bays on the front. They're used for bringing data to and from my computer to other people.
What I really would love was if all those different I/O ports on the cards could just use a big scsi-like cable to a rack mount system.:)
Thanks for the links. Though the FrontX solution needs a knockout on the back to work... --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
You've stumbled over the problems of censorship; where does it start, where does it stop? The ISP shouldn't try to censor anything, unless instructed to do so by a court of law. If the service gets information about unlawful behaviour it should ask a court of law for permission to shut down that part of the service, thus helding itself unliable in any event; ie. either going to far, or not doing enough.
This takes into account that what is illegal in one count(r)y is legal in another; it does give people with real conserns (and the nutcases) a way to complain, and the company a way to do something about conserns which are real.
In a trigger happy society as the US, I think that is the only solution for ISP, especially small ones, as they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
How come Amazon.com works great on all browsers I've used? Yes, even Lynx.
Why is it that this is so? Because they seem to care about their customers time and money. They feel that any small pain for them offsets the pain of thousands of customers.
They are doing the right thing, the require the customers to have a credit card handy, nothing else when shopping with them. They understand business!
Everyone who requires someone to hop through rings of fire before presenting their credit card will never get the credit card.
Eat that, web standards project.
(BTW, standards is a good thing, but face reality people.) --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Doesn't work on all sites, doesn't override CSS. Did a test just this second on IE.
Doesn't work on Netscape 4.75. And let me tell you that I really, really have large problems with many sites because they are too f***ing lazy to do _their_ job.
It isn't my problem that you can't do your job right. I'll just point it out, and make a hell of it until you fix the problem.
I agree with you. Why should the problems of developers be offset to the consumers? Most people don't want to dl 14 mb because a developer care more about himself than the rest of the humanity.
The web standards people should take a good look at themselves, asking "am I really worth it?".
There also is the fact that there are a lot of people out there using stuff which cant be upgraded to IE 5.5, NS 6.0 or whatever. What about donated hardware? What about WebTV? What about a lot of new technologies using smaller leaner browsers? What about peole sitting at a library or at school?
This is just another typical reaction from lazy people with some power: offset the cost and problems to others. --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
"Besides, it was on FOX. Its not like the Discovery channel is broadcasting this shit."
Eh, we got Discovery Channel here in Europe as well, and to be honest, I've seen quite a few shows on that channel which falls squarely into ridiculous:
* Pyramid building "theories" from people believing in Atlantis.
* Alien stories
* UFO stories
Most of that is presented as researched, generally accepted, etc. Intersperced with that you'll find stories on every tank used in WWII, every airplane, etc.
Hardly ever any _good_ shows on Discovery covering _real_ science. --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
I beg do differ. What I learn during work or off work is my experience, granted, I might have learned it at work, but it is I who can use it, not someone else.
I do agree that making a competing product while working for a company isn't a good idea, and that's probably what you signed when starting for the company. I don't have any beef with that.
But, as soon as I quit that company I can do as I choose. Else I'm effectively hindered from earning money on what I know, and can do. If I create something from scratch doing the same as my former employer's software is doing, they don't have any legal right (at least not in Norway, thank god) to hinder me from doing that, because if they did, I wouldn't have any value whatsoever for future employers.
That wasn't very well written at all, was it? Before answering, I don't mean that you should steal anything from your employer which is protected by any laws. OTOH, the employer can't ban you from making competing products/solutions after you've quit your job with them. Then you should be a free man, free to earn money on your expertise. --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
They have a risk of getting any of the problems listed on that page.
Does this risk make these people (perhaps even you and me) less good at their jobs? No. But this information will be used to deny them jobs because the employer won't pay health insurance for those people.
However you turn this gem, you will see the flaw. Those people will be denied jobs in their chosen profession on the basis of a risk they might have of getting an illness which they are predisposed of.
BTW, did you know that people from Finland are predisposed for alcoholism? Maybe we shouldn't hire people from Finland? (Linus Torvalds comes from Finland). Women are predisposed to giving birth (which will keep them from work for a long period). Perhaps we shouldn't hire women.
The case here is hiring practices and discrimination. --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Society is a risk spreading business. If you let one portion of the group have all the benefits (right to live, get a job, healthcare, free speech, etc) and another only the risks (no job, no healthcare, no freedom) then there are no incentives for that group to prolong the life of the society.
That's what brought around the Russian revolution(s) (both kicking out the Tsar as well as the communists). People will take a lot of shit, when the balance tips, it will move fast.
Why on earth was this rated down to zero? It is a good and valid point, should have been at least a one, but two or three isn't beyond this. --
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Slashdot Mirror
First: There are ways of identifying photos which has been photoshopped (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/ 24/1459257&tid=152&tid=14)
e os20d.asp) using an data verification kit (Canon DVK-E2), explanation of how it works (although very untechy explanation) can be found here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012903canondvk e2.asp (it seems to be a hash based system, from what I can gleam of that text).
Second: Canon has at least one camera which, if you store the flash card, can show the authenticity of the original photo (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04081909canon_
I don't know if either method would stand up in court anywhere, but it is two places to start planning for your future documentation needs.
Another thing, although costly, can't one just create a 35 mm film from something like this http://www.colorslide.com/artists.html? (just my first result from a google search, but there are equipment for this on the market).
The point of evidence, though, is to show that it hasn't been tampered with from the gathering until used in court, that's true for any kind of evidence. With the right tools that can be done with digital photos.
Best regards,
Paul
In Norway security guards are not allowed to carry weapons. The robbers were armed, and I think they fired warning shots. Any sane person would have stood still until it was over.
No alarms or anything else would have helped, because the painting was on the wall and accessible.
The canvas was cut out of the frame, so no securing of the frame would have been of any help.
The only thing which would have helped would have been closing down the room with the robber, but that would have risked the wellbeing of the other people in the same room, there were at least one other person in there with the robber.
XV is a gold mine. It has just the function set needed for most operations you'd like to do quickly. Crop, resize, a few color management options and different save and load formats.
It is small and quick to open. I think it has the exact features you need for digicam work (as you do) or pre-web-publishing work (creating cropped thumnails instead of resiezed ones).
Thanks for reminding me of it, it has been a couple of years since I used it daily.
AFAIK forest fires are natural. Our fight to control forestfires makes forests less vital. A good and normal forestfire gives room for a different flora and fauna than which a forest has.
Our continual fight against forest fires makes it easier for future fires to gain catastrophic proportions. (Ie. we protect a lot of land against forest fires; a few dry years come, and wooosh, a lot more burns than if the normal cycle of events were allowed.)
Paul
Which counter? Is it widely used (ie. in large commercial sites)?
If I remember things correctly the US patent office doesn't have to prove anything. They just decide if the patent is valid within guidelines.
Prior art is somthing which are used in challenges to the patent.
In Europe it is a bit different, there you have to give reasonable assurances that it is something new and that prior art doesn't exist.
In fact I think that most of the work of European patent agents is to help you prove that no prior art doesn't exist.
I guess the American agencies help you broaden the patent as much as possible, including almost everything, and then the challenge process will narrow it down to a point where it sticks.
But IANAL.
And their first jetliner, which fell apart in the air. It spurred modern air disaster methods, though.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
They also have a lot of other interesting hole punchers. I'm going to read through their site and see what ideas pops up. I do have several years of electronics experience as well as my computer experience.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Those people who have answered here has been of tremendous help. They've pointed me in new directions as well as helped me to find the pci-2-pci bridges which are used by Digidesign.
I knew something like this was available, but my searches always turned up normal tower or smaller cases. I generally do my research before asking, and I got a bit frustrated looking around and not finding what I needed.
I don't like the insinuitation that I did this as my first place to find info, that really goes against my grain. I've thought myself most of the stuff I know of computers and programming, as well as having a formal degree. I know how frustrating it is to have people comming and ask what for you is an obvious question.
Thanks for the company names you gave me. Now I just have to find someone selling this in Scandinavia, but that's a breeze when I know what to look for.
I must say that this discussion has opened my eyes for a lot of cool hardware. Much of it is pretty inexpensive as well.
Now I just need to find USD 2000,- to buy that Digidesign rack.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
I owe you a beverage of your choice.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
But thank you for the offer. I think I need to look around on the used market.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
I ordered some today. The local dealer finally had the opportunity to get them.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
I do appreciate your idea though, if I were a much more practical guy I would probably do this.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Finally, my computer is loaded with harddrives in drive bays on the front. They're used for bringing data to and from my computer to other people.
What I really would love was if all those different I/O ports on the cards could just use a big scsi-like cable to a rack mount system. :)
Thanks for the links. Though the FrontX solution needs a knockout on the back to work...
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
This takes into account that what is illegal in one count(r)y is legal in another; it does give people with real conserns (and the nutcases) a way to complain, and the company a way to do something about conserns which are real.
In a trigger happy society as the US, I think that is the only solution for ISP, especially small ones, as they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
How come Amazon.com works great on all browsers I've used? Yes, even Lynx.
Why is it that this is so? Because they seem to care about their customers time and money. They feel that any small pain for them offsets the pain of thousands of customers.
They are doing the right thing, the require the customers to have a credit card handy, nothing else when shopping with them. They understand business!
Everyone who requires someone to hop through rings of fire before presenting their credit card will never get the credit card.
Eat that, web standards project.
(BTW, standards is a good thing, but face reality people.)
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Doesn't work on all sites, doesn't override CSS. Did a test just this second on IE.
Doesn't work on Netscape 4.75. And let me tell you that I really, really have large problems with many sites because they are too f***ing lazy to do _their_ job.
It isn't my problem that you can't do your job right. I'll just point it out, and make a hell of it until you fix the problem.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
I agree with you. Why should the problems of developers be offset to the consumers? Most people don't want to dl 14 mb because a developer care more about himself than the rest of the humanity.
The web standards people should take a good look at themselves, asking "am I really worth it?".
There also is the fact that there are a lot of people out there using stuff which cant be upgraded to IE 5.5, NS 6.0 or whatever. What about donated hardware? What about WebTV? What about a lot of new technologies using smaller leaner browsers? What about peole sitting at a library or at school?
This is just another typical reaction from lazy people with some power: offset the cost and problems to others.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Very good points you have here; I've been thinking along hose lines myself.
"A man is not an island unto himself" IIRC.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
"Besides, it was on FOX. Its not like the Discovery channel is broadcasting this shit."
Eh, we got Discovery Channel here in Europe as well, and to be honest, I've seen quite a few shows on that channel which falls squarely into ridiculous:
* Pyramid building "theories" from people believing in Atlantis.
* Alien stories
* UFO stories
Most of that is presented as researched, generally accepted, etc. Intersperced with that you'll find stories on every tank used in WWII, every airplane, etc.
Hardly ever any _good_ shows on Discovery covering _real_ science.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
I do agree that making a competing product while working for a company isn't a good idea, and that's probably what you signed when starting for the company. I don't have any beef with that.
But, as soon as I quit that company I can do as I choose. Else I'm effectively hindered from earning money on what I know, and can do. If I create something from scratch doing the same as my former employer's software is doing, they don't have any legal right (at least not in Norway, thank god) to hinder me from doing that, because if they did, I wouldn't have any value whatsoever for future employers.
That wasn't very well written at all, was it? Before answering, I don't mean that you should steal anything from your employer which is protected by any laws. OTOH, the employer can't ban you from making competing products/solutions after you've quit your job with them. Then you should be a free man, free to earn money on your expertise.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Does this risk make these people (perhaps even you and me) less good at their jobs? No. But this information will be used to deny them jobs because the employer won't pay health insurance for those people.
However you turn this gem, you will see the flaw. Those people will be denied jobs in their chosen profession on the basis of a risk they might have of getting an illness which they are predisposed of.
BTW, did you know that people from Finland are predisposed for alcoholism? Maybe we shouldn't hire people from Finland? (Linus Torvalds comes from Finland). Women are predisposed to giving birth (which will keep them from work for a long period). Perhaps we shouldn't hire women.
The case here is hiring practices and discrimination.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Doesn't matter for me, living in a civilized country in Europe, but for most Americans that should seem very, very scaring.
But, not everyone who are predisposed of having an illness will get it.
Everybody, btw, is predisposed of dying.
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The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Society is a risk spreading business. If you let one portion of the group have all the benefits (right to live, get a job, healthcare, free speech, etc) and another only the risks (no job, no healthcare, no freedom) then there are no incentives for that group to prolong the life of the society.
That's what brought around the Russian revolution(s) (both kicking out the Tsar as well as the communists). People will take a lot of shit, when the balance tips, it will move fast.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/
Why on earth was this rated down to zero? It is a good and valid point, should have been at least a one, but two or three isn't beyond this.
--
The Speedy Viking
http://zez.org/