"So the main advantage I see for MS is not eliminating a reason to switch from Firefox to Chrome (both rivals for IE) but eliminating a reason to switch from Windows to *nix."
Really? How do you figure that? Windows has a huge advantage in many software categories including games, cad, and most all vertical markets. And last time I checked Firefox ran on Windows now.... Nope Chrome has Google behind pushing it and Google is pushing Apps in Chrome! Firefox isn't a real threat because there is no multi billion dollar company pushing it hard. If anything Chrome will allow people to move off Windows and onto unix like OSs...
Actually just about everybody is worried about Iran's nuclear program. Russia has it's own problems with muslim extremists and Iran and Russia are natural enemies that for now are cooperating. They do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons they just want to sell them stuff. India doesn't really want an extremist Islamic nuclear power that could become allies with an extremist Pakistan. Throw in France, Germany, the UK, Sweden, Italy, and all the nations near Iran and you have a long list. Frankly you can make it pretty easy. Who wants Iran to have nuclear weapons. The extremists elements of the Iran.
Who doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons? Everybody else on the planet.
Of course you will have a few people outside of Iran but you get the picture. The world really doesn't want this.
No I have not and no their really isn't. The reasons that they give for not using OS-provided codecs are at best questionable. 1 is security. But then you are assuming that Mozilla's codecs are more secure than those proved by the OS. 2. Availability. Windows XP doesn't have native h.264 support but 7 does. I am not so sure about Vista but you easily add h.264 support. OS/X has it native and Linux everybody adds it.
Application provided codecs make as much sense as Application provided printer, sound, and graphics drivers. It is all about code reuse and flexibility. And yes there was a time when each application did provide printer, sound, and graphics drivers. And by going with OS based codec support adding newer and better codecs will be a simple matter of adding the support to the OS. Just like printers, graphics, and sound are today.
It always was. Firefox could have used the installed codecs in Windows, OS/X, and Linux to offer H.264. The only reason I can figure Microsoft did this was to keep people from dropping Firefox and going to Chrome.
The FCC so needs to crack down that it just is no longer funny. 1. Cable providers should not be allowed to own networks. Comcast owning NBC! No way. 2. We need net neutrality rules. Freak I pay to connect to the internet ISP you need to connect me. 3. Local governments need to crack down on the cable companies. They grant them "franchises" They should demand certain price levels and bandwidth. 4. We have been paying a telecom tax to the tune of how much for how long and we still do not have universal, inexpensive, broadband? Maybe it is time to get a refund with interest and fines!
Because if a woman could do anyone can! Wow that doesn't come out right. Grace Hopper got an early admission to Vassar at the age of 17! She would have gotten in at the age of 16 but her Latin scores where too low.. She got degrees in physics and mathematics at Vassar, Masters in both at Yale, then a PH.d. in Mathematics from Yale. She was not just anybody. Frankly she would make most us look like low grade morons. If she was 30 today Google, Microsoft, Intel, IBM, and Facebook would all be after her. She was a brilliant human being. So what should we learn from her? Well I have to wonder how much we have lost over the years. How many Grace Hoopers never got the chance to contribute the way she did because "girls" are not supposed good at math and science? Or to put it this way. Freaking brilliant people are not limited to just men.
But COBOL was one of if not the first "high level" languages. c was came after COBOL, after FORTRAN, after bpcl, after Algol, after Lisp, after PL/1, after APL, and after Pascal. Of course c aged better because it had decades of evolution of programing languages behind it. COBOL has fallen out of favor and I will admit that it isn't a fun languages. But most of the people posting about how terrible it is have never used it. It is still used today so it must have worked very well indeed. How many systems today are still running on Algol, bpcl, and or PL/1? Not a lot for sure. Frankly COBOL, FORTRAN, and Lisp are all huge success stories. COBOL and FORTRAN are still used today in a lot of very critical systems. Lisp is still used in many teaching environments and some production ones. Love it or hate it only a fool would dismiss COBOL as anything less that a huge success.
Yes the Envronuts makes it hard to launch any RTG probe. No that had nothing to do with mars rovers using solar. That happened because it was cheap. RTGs are expensive and the first mars rover was really a low budget program. When NASA found out how much science they could do with with the Solar they went cheap on the next few missions as well. Now that sad part is that we could have had an RTG powered mars rover about 30 years ago. NASA had plans for a tracked version of the Viking lander but never got funding.
You see grey because you want too. I will simply ask you one question. Is a satellite launch vehicle a weapon of mass destruction? Because under no international law or agreement is the Titan IV listed as a weapon system. If you know of any I would love to see a reference.
The Titan IV was also used for space probes and comsats. Every booster including the Falcon 9 has been used to loft military payloads The only exception I can think of is the Saturn Family. And he said it was being used to build missiles. So no at this point we are making excuses. The Titan IV is not a weapon of mass destruction which Moore claimed it was. Even to say that it launches the satellites that target missiles is a big stretch in the term. Does that make the semi-truck that carries the satellite to launch site a weapon of mass destruction? What about the computers that download the images? Of course those same satellites are also used to monitor weapons limitations agreements and have even been used to monitor ceasefires. Under NO international agreement of definition is a an imaging satellite considered a weapon of mass destruction! Over stated? Yes it was over stated to the point that it was a complete fiction. Or are you going to claim that Japan, Germany, and Brazil all count as having weapons of mass destruction since all of them have imaging satellites in orbit. As to it having a primary military mission. Maybe but so do many facilities in like military hospitals, airports, training centers, and even infantry units but none of them have anything to do with weapons of mass destruction. Moore literally said that the Titan IV factory was building weapons of mass destruction. Not that it was a building a rocket that is used by the military as well as civilians but weapons of mass destruction. It is simple as that. Is the Titan IV a weapon of mass destruction or a satellite launcher. Since it cares no nuclear warhead I say the answer is clear and Moore flat out lied. In this case it is completely black and white.
In the US yes but I don't think this was in the US. The story said was Greek but that doesn't mean that he was in Greece. Plus do we have hard date besides a link in pastebin?
Exactly. Just take a look at some of the super computers from that time Tron was mind blowing at the time. The plot was a bit weak but at the time most people didn't even own a computer and 1200 baud modems where rare of not even available yet. I know I lusted after a 300 baud modem at that time. For the time it was unreal. Today many people have a "virtual self" or many virtual selfs on Facebook, WOW, and Slashdot for example.
BTW the Indian extremists have been infiltrating Microsoft for years and have places many back doors into Windows so they can shutdown all our systems. Their main target is the thought control experiments based in Montauk NY at the secret underground base their. They are hoping that they can remotely activate it and then while we are under their control gain access to the secret base under the new Denver Airport.
You put this down to a simple factual error. The thing is that he wanted to show that the US was making ICBM which he could not. The US hasn't produced any ICBMs for years. We signed an international agreement on that subject and have been following. In fact we destroyed our newest ICBMs the MX, We have destroyed all our IRBMs "the Pershing II", we destroyed all or SRBMs "Pershing Is and Lancer missiles" long before the movie was shot. So he wanted to show that the US was building missiles just like we where accusing Iraq of but he couldn't. So he made it up to prove a point that wasn't true. I have heard of many other lies but this one is one that I can verify completely from my own knowledge without having to "trust" other sources. To me this one was just so blatant that it makes my head hurt. If he has asked anybody that worked their if it was an ICBM they could have told him know. If he had looked it up in any book on Space flight he could have found out. If he had asked the Air Force and or NASA they could have told him. I am sure that you can find many more errors and if you research them you can find people as knowledgeable as I am in those subject areas that can verify them for you. BTW the MLRS in service that that time is not counted as a SRBM because it was unguided and unguided short range rockets are not counted. The newer guided MLRS and ATACMs had be talked about with Russia and are forbidden to carry nuclear weapons and their are restrictions on their range and payload. Of course chemical and biological warheads are forbidden completely. Just in case you find sites that try and contradict me miss using the MLRS and ATACMs.
Well from reading the link what I am getting is that they are changing how it is listed and calculated. It does make sense in away since the variablity in atomic weight of hydrogen is much higher than say uranium when looking at it as a percentages. So they are going to show Hydrogen as a range instead of a fixed number.
So you need your own liar to match O'Reilly and Limbaugh?.... Hummmm so you are fine with O'Reilly and Limbaugh since they are no worse than than Moore who you think is a necessary evil? Sorry I hate them all for being evil.
Yea and the 4Chan gang are heroes for hacking Gawker and compromising all those passwords? They couldn't even take down PayPal or Amazon. So they are nothing but a gang of ineffectual thugs.
Okay I understand that but this is dumb. Maybe require a physical button or key to be turned on the server to allow that password to be used! Or maybe an USB device with crypto on it plugged in to activate it? I mean really people HP must have people that are at least as smart as I am.
"Moore's use of dramatic methods to tell the story are not lying, not in the way that the right wing's diversions, obfuscations, and blatant lies are lying." So his movies are works of fiction? You can not have it both ways. It is a drama or it is documentary. And his point was that the US was making ICBMs which the US has not done in years. We signed an arms control agreement and because of that we retired our newest ICBM the MX because it was too big and are using older Minutemen missiles. PER INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. So no you are saying that it is okay for him to state something clearly false to get his point across. You maybe okay with that but I am not. Don't call it a documentary and then take that level of dramatic license.
Nope because it wasn't a missile at all. The Titan IVs only function is to life satellites into orbit. It is as different as a bomber from an airliner or a tank from a truck. The Titan IV didn't even have the correct type of guidance system to be a deliver a warhead. It didn't fit in any silos, and the only two places that can launch it are above ground pads at Cape Canaveral and VAFB. It was as much of an ICBM as the Falcon 9 is.
Actually the factory didn't make any parts used in ICBMs. Just the Titan IV. Just let go of the fanboi worship and face facts that Moore at best did zero fact checking or at worst flat out lied. The rest was just dumb.
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"So the main advantage I see for MS is not eliminating a reason to switch from Firefox to Chrome (both rivals for IE) but eliminating a reason to switch from Windows to *nix."
Really? How do you figure that?
Windows has a huge advantage in many software categories including games, cad, and most all vertical markets.
And last time I checked Firefox ran on Windows now....
Nope Chrome has Google behind pushing it and Google is pushing Apps in Chrome! Firefox isn't a real threat because there is no multi billion dollar company pushing it hard.
If anything Chrome will allow people to move off Windows and onto unix like OSs...
Actually just about everybody is worried about Iran's nuclear program. Russia has it's own problems with muslim extremists and Iran and Russia are natural enemies that for now are cooperating. They do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons they just want to sell them stuff.
India doesn't really want an extremist Islamic nuclear power that could become allies with an extremist Pakistan.
Throw in France, Germany, the UK, Sweden, Italy, and all the nations near Iran and you have a long list. Frankly you can make it pretty easy.
Who wants Iran to have nuclear weapons.
The extremists elements of the Iran.
Who doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons?
Everybody else on the planet.
Of course you will have a few people outside of Iran but you get the picture. The world really doesn't want this.
No I have not and no their really isn't.
The reasons that they give for not using OS-provided codecs are at best questionable.
1 is security. But then you are assuming that Mozilla's codecs are more secure than those proved by the OS.
2. Availability. Windows XP doesn't have native h.264 support but 7 does. I am not so sure about Vista but you easily add h.264 support. OS/X has it native and Linux everybody adds it.
Application provided codecs make as much sense as Application provided printer, sound, and graphics drivers. It is all about code reuse and flexibility. And yes there was a time when each application did provide printer, sound, and graphics drivers. And by going with OS based codec support adding newer and better codecs will be a simple matter of adding the support to the OS. Just like printers, graphics, and sound are today.
It always was. Firefox could have used the installed codecs in Windows, OS/X, and Linux to offer H.264. The only reason I can figure Microsoft did this was to keep people from dropping Firefox and going to Chrome.
The FCC so needs to crack down that it just is no longer funny.
1. Cable providers should not be allowed to own networks. Comcast owning NBC! No way.
2. We need net neutrality rules. Freak I pay to connect to the internet ISP you need to connect me.
3. Local governments need to crack down on the cable companies. They grant them "franchises" They should demand certain price levels and bandwidth.
4. We have been paying a telecom tax to the tune of how much for how long and we still do not have universal, inexpensive, broadband? Maybe it is time to get a refund with interest and fines!
That is just it. Do they have a list of things that are now flat out broken?
Because if a woman could do anyone can!
Wow that doesn't come out right.
Grace Hopper got an early admission to Vassar at the age of 17! She would have gotten in at the age of 16 but her Latin scores where too low..
She got degrees in physics and mathematics at Vassar, Masters in both at Yale, then a PH.d. in Mathematics from Yale.
She was not just anybody. Frankly she would make most us look like low grade morons. If she was 30 today Google, Microsoft, Intel, IBM, and Facebook would all be after her. She was a brilliant human being.
So what should we learn from her? Well I have to wonder how much we have lost over the years. How many Grace Hoopers never got the chance to contribute the way she did because "girls" are not supposed good at math and science?
Or to put it this way. Freaking brilliant people are not limited to just men.
True. The only people that think that C++ is a good object oriented programing language are people that have only used C++.
But COBOL was one of if not the first "high level" languages. c was came after COBOL, after FORTRAN, after bpcl, after Algol, after Lisp, after PL/1, after APL, and after Pascal.
Of course c aged better because it had decades of evolution of programing languages behind it. COBOL has fallen out of favor and I will admit that it isn't a fun languages. But most of the people posting about how terrible it is have never used it. It is still used today so it must have worked very well indeed.
How many systems today are still running on Algol, bpcl, and or PL/1? Not a lot for sure.
Frankly COBOL, FORTRAN, and Lisp are all huge success stories. COBOL and FORTRAN are still used today in a lot of very critical systems. Lisp is still used in many teaching environments and some production ones. Love it or hate it only a fool would dismiss COBOL as anything less that a huge success.
Yes the Envronuts makes it hard to launch any RTG probe.
No that had nothing to do with mars rovers using solar. That happened because it was cheap. RTGs are expensive and the first mars rover was really a low budget program. When NASA found out how much science they could do with with the Solar they went cheap on the next few missions as well.
Now that sad part is that we could have had an RTG powered mars rover about 30 years ago. NASA had plans for a tracked version of the Viking lander but never got funding.
You see grey because you want too. I will simply ask you one question.
Is a satellite launch vehicle a weapon of mass destruction? Because under no international law or agreement is the Titan IV listed as a weapon system.
If you know of any I would love to see a reference.
The Titan IV was also used for space probes and comsats. Every booster including the Falcon 9 has been used to loft military payloads The only exception I can think of is the Saturn Family. And he said it was being used to build missiles. So no at this point we are making excuses.
The Titan IV is not a weapon of mass destruction which Moore claimed it was. Even to say that it launches the satellites that target missiles is a big stretch in the term. Does that make the semi-truck that carries the satellite to launch site a weapon of mass destruction? What about the computers that download the images?
Of course those same satellites are also used to monitor weapons limitations agreements and have even been used to monitor ceasefires.
Under NO international agreement of definition is a an imaging satellite considered a weapon of mass destruction! Over stated? Yes it was over stated to the point that it was a complete fiction. Or are you going to claim that Japan, Germany, and Brazil all count as having weapons of mass destruction since all of them have imaging satellites in orbit.
As to it having a primary military mission. Maybe but so do many facilities in like military hospitals, airports, training centers, and even infantry units but none of them have anything to do with weapons of mass destruction.
Moore literally said that the Titan IV factory was building weapons of mass destruction. Not that it was a building a rocket that is used by the military as well as civilians but weapons of mass destruction.
It is simple as that. Is the Titan IV a weapon of mass destruction or a satellite launcher. Since it cares no nuclear warhead I say the answer is clear and Moore flat out lied.
In this case it is completely black and white.
In the US yes but I don't think this was in the US. The story said was Greek but that doesn't mean that he was in Greece. Plus do we have hard date besides a link in pastebin?
Wow not just a stalker but one with no sense of humor.
Exactly. Just take a look at some of the super computers from that time Tron was mind blowing at the time. The plot was a bit weak but at the time most people didn't even own a computer and 1200 baud modems where rare of not even available yet. I know I lusted after a 300 baud modem at that time.
For the time it was unreal. Today many people have a "virtual self" or many virtual selfs on Facebook, WOW, and Slashdot for example.
So slashdot gets a twofor.
BTW the Indian extremists have been infiltrating Microsoft for years and have places many back doors into Windows so they can shutdown all our systems. Their main target is the thought control experiments based in Montauk NY at the secret underground base their. They are hoping that they can remotely activate it and then while we are under their control gain access to the secret base under the new Denver Airport.
You put this down to a simple factual error. The thing is that he wanted to show that the US was making ICBM which he could not. The US hasn't produced any ICBMs for years. We signed an international agreement on that subject and have been following. In fact we destroyed our newest ICBMs the MX, We have destroyed all our IRBMs "the Pershing II", we destroyed all or SRBMs "Pershing Is and Lancer missiles" long before the movie was shot. So he wanted to show that the US was building missiles just like we where accusing Iraq of but he couldn't.
So he made it up to prove a point that wasn't true.
I have heard of many other lies but this one is one that I can verify completely from my own knowledge without having to "trust" other sources. To me this one was just so blatant that it makes my head hurt. If he has asked anybody that worked their if it was an ICBM they could have told him know. If he had looked it up in any book on Space flight he could have found out. If he had asked the Air Force and or NASA they could have told him.
I am sure that you can find many more errors and if you research them you can find people as knowledgeable as I am in those subject areas that can verify them for you.
BTW the MLRS in service that that time is not counted as a SRBM because it was unguided and unguided short range rockets are not counted. The newer guided MLRS and ATACMs had be talked about with Russia and are forbidden to carry nuclear weapons and their are restrictions on their range and payload. Of course chemical and biological warheads are forbidden completely.
Just in case you find sites that try and contradict me miss using the MLRS and ATACMs.
Well from reading the link what I am getting is that they are changing how it is listed and calculated. It does make sense in away since the variablity in atomic weight of hydrogen is much higher than say uranium when looking at it as a percentages. So they are going to show Hydrogen as a range instead of a fixed number.
So you need your own liar to match O'Reilly and Limbaugh?....
Hummmm so you are fine with O'Reilly and Limbaugh since they are no worse than than Moore who you think is a necessary evil?
Sorry I hate them all for being evil.
Yea and the 4Chan gang are heroes for hacking Gawker and compromising all those passwords? They couldn't even take down PayPal or Amazon. So they are nothing but a gang of ineffectual thugs.
Okay I understand that but this is dumb. Maybe require a physical button or key to be turned on the server to allow that password to be used! Or maybe an USB device with crypto on it plugged in to activate it?
I mean really people HP must have people that are at least as smart as I am.
You left out providing fuel for cybercrime laws.
I would put this as more like their Midway than Waterloo.
"Moore's use of dramatic methods to tell the story are not lying, not in the way that the right wing's diversions, obfuscations, and blatant lies are lying."
So his movies are works of fiction?
You can not have it both ways. It is a drama or it is documentary. And his point was that the US was making ICBMs which the US has not done in years. We signed an arms control agreement and because of that we retired our newest ICBM the MX because it was too big and are using older Minutemen missiles. PER INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
So no you are saying that it is okay for him to state something clearly false to get his point across.
You maybe okay with that but I am not. Don't call it a documentary and then take that level of dramatic license.
Nope because it wasn't a missile at all.
The Titan IVs only function is to life satellites into orbit.
It is as different as a bomber from an airliner or a tank from a truck.
The Titan IV didn't even have the correct type of guidance system to be a deliver a warhead. It didn't fit in any silos, and the only two places that can launch it are above ground pads at Cape Canaveral and VAFB. It was as much of an ICBM as the Falcon 9 is.
Actually the factory didn't make any parts used in ICBMs. Just the Titan IV. Just let go of the fanboi worship and face facts that Moore at best did zero fact checking or at worst flat out lied.
The rest was just dumb.