And if it was only that easy. Frankly YikYak is a sewer but it should go the way of pets.com soon. VC folks will soon realise that it is not something that they can monetize.
If it happened. From the link. "I recognize that Bordne's account is not definitively confirmed. But I find him to have been consistently truthful in the matters I could confirm. An incident of this import, I believe, should not have to rest on the testimony of one man."
That is kind of unfair. The cost of software has kept going down over the years. Take a look at what people paid for WordStar, VisiCalc or DBaseII back in the late 70s early 80s. Also take a look at what people paid for computers like the Apple II and Commodore Pet. As far as everyone having access to a cheap computer I think people like Sir Clive Sinclair and Jack Tramiel should get a mention. Microsoft tried to create a standard for a home computer as well in the 1980s called the MSX but they never caught on in the US. While the PC did suck as did DOS it did allow for a "standard" to evolve and allowed software developers to have access to a large market.
"Yeah but won't someone thingof the oil company execs and investors? This nuclear shit is going to fuck them over." Funny how such a stupid post get a 3. Less than 3% of the electricity in the US comes from oil. Coal, and natural gas are the two big fossil fuels used for electrical power in the US. While you do have some cross over between oil and natural gas it is not 100% as far as companies. BTW the same thing holds true for anyone that says that solar and wind will help cut the US's dependence on foreign oil. They are lying.
If the price is expensive than wouldn't it make more sense to move the servers outside the city and run a dedicated fiber optic line to a small distribution center in the city?
"There are heaps of scenarios which would lead to a different conclusion if, for example, the company was dishonest. Apparently, companies sometimes don't tell the truth. It would be quite possible for the company to not have built what it applied for, or for some important facts about the plan to have been omitted, or intentionally mis-represented."
Then it should have failed the inspections.
"Another possibility is that the planners are corrupt, or simply incompetent and the application should have been rejected."
That would be the government's fault.
"As has been suggested, it's possible that the residents messed up, but i've a feeling this is unlikely."
Really? Have you ever been to a community meeting? I did once, most of the people were idiots.
"The public inquiry was poorly conducted and did not allow people to get the full information," said Ms Sageloli. " The published notice was hard to understand and did not clearly indicate that it concerned a data center. "
Sounds like the problem is with the local regulators. It is their job to make sure everything is done on the up and up.
Sure they are backup generators they do not run most of the time. Frankly the should never run except for short tests. They have the same type of setup as any Hospital does. Frankly I do not see why you would want to put these "edge" centers in cities. Is it that much cheaper than running dedicated fiber to one in a more rural or industrial area?
"So every site must have enough capacity to power the entire US
Surely you are not so ignorant of the topic to be serious?"
Your statement is that the wind is always blowing someplace.
For your idea to work you would have to massively overbuild generation and distribution. In other words west texas would have to have enough capacity to supply the North East with massive amounts of power during a winter storm if the Midwest was also getting a storm. The south east has limited wind resources put side of the smokey mountains and the coast but those areas considered sensitive and are not likely to have big wind farms. That is not even touching the grid issue of transporting huge amounts of power to the North east from West Texas. If you know how this can work please publish a paper on the subject showing the costs, locations of wind farms, and changes to the grid needed. I would love to see this work but all the papers I have read have shown that such a distributed system without natural gas peaking plants and hydro, natural gas, and nuclear baseload plants is not possible.
Now a large investment in wind power in eastern Colorado and farming in the area reduced and bison ranching in the area increased is a very interesting idea and should be looked at.
Almost 16,000 people are known dead with another 1200 missing after the tsunami. We have no idea how many got sick or injured. One case of cancer that hopefully will not be fatal makes the news.
"for 50 bucks under the condition that you must not show it to anymone."
Answer: "What for then? That's not worth the 50!"
Yea... No. It still comes down to it being more hassle than it's worth for some people. Throw in free parking, insurance, and maintenance you would take it.
It is not some shift in morality. It is simply too expensive and inconvenient for Europeans and people in some major US cities to have a car. Heck in some of those cities it is so bad that you can get from place to place faster on a bike than mass transit. In the US I expect in a few years as this generation gets married and has kids to see a shift away from the dirty, crowded, and expensive cities back to suburbs where the kids can have a yard. Europe has very different population density and has been urban for a much longer time so I do expect to see that shift in the EU. With the EUs rail system what you might see is people moving to smaller cities and towns using high speed rail to commute to work.
Frankly in the US I would like to see fewer suburbs and more towns but that is not likley for a while. Too many companies are going back to being in a few large cities in the US.
""One night the previous summer, I’d driven to meet a friend at an art gallery in Hollywood, my first visit to a gallery in years. The next morning, in my inbox, several spam e-mails urged me to invest in art. That was an easy one to figure out: I’d typed the name of the gallery into Google Maps." That does not make a lot of sense. If you started to see ads in Gmail about art then it makes sense. Getting spam does not. Google does not make money on email spam and they would not sell your name to a list. Now if you signed in at the gallery and put down your email address that would make sense. "“People You May Know,” of a California musician whom I’d bumped into six or seven times at AA meetings in a private home. In accordance with AA custom, he had never told me his last name nor inquired about mine. " You have your phone number in facebook? Even if you do this again does not make a lot of sense. Apple does no share phonebook data with facebook and Google and Facebook do not share data. Oh and the rant about AA. Oh well. Sorry but nothing to see here move along.
It does not sound that way to me. 1. The journalists should not have been there. They where trespassing which is breaking the law.
"1) the first employee to be hit was standing behind the vehicle as it backed out. That sounds bad to me since the employee shouldn't have been there." Wrong. It is illegal to hit someone with your car when backing out of a location.
"2) the ATV may have been blocking egress by the reporters' vehicle, but we can't tell." So what if it was? You are not allowed to just hit things with your car because they are in your way.
"3) One of the managers approached the vehicle after it had already struck at least two things. That was particularly dumb." Maybe but your still not allowed to hit them with your car.
I doubt your reasoning. Young Europeans living in cities don't have cars because it is too expensive and too big of a pain. The cost in insurance, parking, keeping it up, and fuel are not worth the hassle. Tell everyone that they can have a new 911, BMW 5 series, or Audi with free fuel, parking, and maintenance for life and they would take it in a heartbeat. It is not that they no longer want a car but that a car is not worth the hassle.
Star Trek had money. Remember the miners on the planet with the Horta? Kirk said they would be embarrassingly rich. In other words it was one of the things that just didn't work.
"They ate the seed corn to get the project done and then everyone was burned out and quit." Yes he did that badly. The things he did well was all the support systems he put in place before anyone knew they needed them.
"So why do the developers need to be located in the same city as the PR department?
2. A lot of the venture capital people are in SF.
Ditto for the money people."
Because in many startups the developers and the pr people, and the money people are all the same people. They are called startups after all.
"Anyway, "real" tech exists more in S. Florida than N/Central. Only UCF has really tried to do a proper research park, and that's only about 2 decades old."
Yes and that is a big part of the problem you do not have the schools feeding the tech companies. UF is in Gainsville which really is the middle of nowhere and FSU is in Tallahassee which is a city with two major employers, State government and FSU.
"Texas has less to offer than Florida, but it has a better tech reputation. Maybe it's because they know how to do something other than lure in tourists and use minimum-wage under-educated workers to do it." Florida has more than that including aerospace and shipbuilding but the reputation is correct. I still think it is the disconnect between the Universities that have good tech programs and where the tech companies in FL are. It really is too bad, I feel that a good tech company could do really well here.
True. Back in the dark ages when I graduated high school one of the required classes was called "comparative government". A few years early it was called Democracy vs Communism but they decided to tone it down a bit. I was in the class with two friends of mine and where actually getting into the class about four weeks into the class the teacher pulled us over and asked us to stop asking so many questions. He simply put it this way, "You guys are going to pass this class with As but I have kids in here that may not pass at all and not graduate. I do not have the time to answer your questions and help them pass."
Maybe a class in logic and critical thing would be a better mandatory class than programing.
But that type of grid can not handle the power distribution you are describing. You can not supply the north east with 100% of it's needs from a wind farm in west texas.
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And if it was only that easy.
Frankly YikYak is a sewer but it should go the way of pets.com soon. VC folks will soon realise that it is not something that they can monetize.
Vim, Emacs, Notepad++, Kedit, Word, JOE, SciTE,or any other editor should do just fine.
If it happened. From the link.
"I recognize that Bordne's account is not definitively confirmed. But I find him to have been consistently truthful in the matters I could confirm. An incident of this import, I believe, should not have to rest on the testimony of one man."
That is kind of unfair.
The cost of software has kept going down over the years. Take a look at what people paid for WordStar, VisiCalc or DBaseII back in the late 70s early 80s. Also take a look at what people paid for computers like the Apple II and Commodore Pet.
As far as everyone having access to a cheap computer I think people like Sir Clive Sinclair and Jack Tramiel should get a mention. Microsoft tried to create a standard for a home computer as well in the 1980s called the MSX but they never caught on in the US.
While the PC did suck as did DOS it did allow for a "standard" to evolve and allowed software developers to have access to a large market.
"Yeah but won't someone thingof the oil company execs and investors? This nuclear shit is going to fuck them over."
Funny how such a stupid post get a 3.
Less than 3% of the electricity in the US comes from oil.
Coal, and natural gas are the two big fossil fuels used for electrical power in the US. While you do have some cross over between oil and natural gas it is not 100% as far as companies.
BTW the same thing holds true for anyone that says that solar and wind will help cut the US's dependence on foreign oil.
They are lying.
Frankly it looks like the golden age of Fusion Research.
Lockheed's High Beta Fusion reactor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The Polywell Fusion reactor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....
ITER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Seem to me that there is a lot of research in this area. If any of them work then things get really interesting.
If the price is expensive than wouldn't it make more sense to move the servers outside the city and run a dedicated fiber optic line to a small distribution center in the city?
I attended on because it was the only development community meeting we have had in my area.
"There are heaps of scenarios which would lead to a different conclusion if, for example, the company was dishonest. Apparently, companies sometimes don't tell the truth. It would be quite possible for the company to not have built what it applied for, or for some important facts about the plan to have been omitted, or intentionally mis-represented."
Then it should have failed the inspections.
"Another possibility is that the planners are corrupt, or simply incompetent and the application should have been rejected."
That would be the government's fault.
"As has been suggested, it's possible that the residents messed up, but i've a feeling this is unlikely."
Really? Have you ever been to a community meeting? I did once, most of the people were idiots.
Thanks for the info but you should know that party you replied to will gain no wisdom from your information.
"The public inquiry was poorly conducted and did not allow people to get the full information," said Ms Sageloli. " The published notice was hard to understand and did not clearly indicate that it concerned a data center. "
Sounds like the problem is with the local regulators. It is their job to make sure everything is done on the up and up.
Sure they are backup generators they do not run most of the time. Frankly the should never run except for short tests. They have the same type of setup as any Hospital does.
Frankly I do not see why you would want to put these "edge" centers in cities. Is it that much cheaper than running dedicated fiber to one in a more rural or industrial area?
"So every site must have enough capacity to power the entire US
Surely you are not so ignorant of the topic to be serious?"
Your statement is that the wind is always blowing someplace.
For your idea to work you would have to massively overbuild generation and distribution. In other words west texas would have to have enough capacity to supply the North East with massive amounts of power during a winter storm if the Midwest was also getting a storm. The south east has limited wind resources put side of the smokey mountains and the coast but those areas considered sensitive and are not likely to have big wind farms.
That is not even touching the grid issue of transporting huge amounts of power to the North east from West Texas.
If you know how this can work please publish a paper on the subject showing the costs, locations of wind farms, and changes to the grid needed. I would love to see this work but all the papers I have read have shown that such a distributed system without natural gas peaking plants and hydro, natural gas, and nuclear baseload plants is not possible.
Now a large investment in wind power in eastern Colorado and farming in the area reduced and bison ranching in the area increased is a very interesting idea and should be looked at.
Almost 16,000 people are known dead with another 1200 missing after the tsunami. We have no idea how many got sick or injured. One case of cancer that hopefully will not be fatal makes the news.
"for 50 bucks under the condition that you must not show it to anymone."
Answer: "What for then? That's not worth the 50!"
Yea... No.
It still comes down to it being more hassle than it's worth for some people. Throw in free parking, insurance, and maintenance you would take it.
It is not some shift in morality. It is simply too expensive and inconvenient for Europeans and people in some major US cities to have a car. Heck in some of those cities it is so bad that you can get from place to place faster on a bike than mass transit. In the US I expect in a few years as this generation gets married and has kids to see a shift away from the dirty, crowded, and expensive cities back to suburbs where the kids can have a yard. Europe has very different population density and has been urban for a much longer time so I do expect to see that shift in the EU. With the EUs rail system what you might see is people moving to smaller cities and towns using high speed rail to commute to work.
Frankly in the US I would like to see fewer suburbs and more towns but that is not likley for a while. Too many companies are going back to being in a few large cities in the US.
""One night the previous summer, I’d driven to meet a friend at an art gallery in Hollywood, my first visit to a gallery in years. The next morning, in my inbox, several spam e-mails urged me to invest in art. That was an easy one to figure out: I’d typed the name of the gallery into Google Maps."
That does not make a lot of sense. If you started to see ads in Gmail about art then it makes sense. Getting spam does not. Google does not make money on email spam and they would not sell your name to a list. Now if you signed in at the gallery and put down your email address that would make sense.
"“People You May Know,” of a California musician whom I’d bumped into six or seven times at AA meetings in a private home. In accordance with AA custom, he had never told me his last name nor inquired about mine. "
You have your phone number in facebook? Even if you do this again does not make a lot of sense. Apple does no share phonebook data with facebook and Google and Facebook do not share data.
Oh and the rant about AA. Oh well.
Sorry but nothing to see here move along.
It does not sound that way to me.
1. The journalists should not have been there. They where trespassing which is breaking the law.
"1) the first employee to be hit was standing behind the vehicle as it backed out. That sounds bad to me since the employee shouldn't have been there."
Wrong. It is illegal to hit someone with your car when backing out of a location.
"2) the ATV may have been blocking egress by the reporters' vehicle, but we can't tell."
So what if it was? You are not allowed to just hit things with your car because they are in your way.
"3) One of the managers approached the vehicle after it had already struck at least two things. That was particularly dumb."
Maybe but your still not allowed to hit them with your car.
"and should we need a car/van/whatever, we can rent one at a cheap price."
No it didn't
" At that point, the Kibbutz died"
I doubt your reasoning.
Young Europeans living in cities don't have cars because it is too expensive and too big of a pain. The cost in insurance, parking, keeping it up, and fuel are not worth the hassle. Tell everyone that they can have a new 911, BMW 5 series, or Audi with free fuel, parking, and maintenance for life and they would take it in a heartbeat.
It is not that they no longer want a car but that a car is not worth the hassle.
Star Trek had money. Remember the miners on the planet with the Horta? Kirk said they would be embarrassingly rich.
In other words it was one of the things that just didn't work.
"They ate the seed corn to get the project done and then everyone was burned out and quit."
Yes he did that badly. The things he did well was all the support systems he put in place before anyone knew they needed them.
"So why do the developers need to be located in the same city as the PR department?
2. A lot of the venture capital people are in SF.
Ditto for the money people."
Because in many startups the developers and the pr people, and the money people are all the same people. They are called startups after all.
"Anyway, "real" tech exists more in S. Florida than N/Central. Only UCF has really tried to do a proper research park, and that's only about 2 decades old."
Yes and that is a big part of the problem you do not have the schools feeding the tech companies. UF is in Gainsville which really is the middle of nowhere and FSU is in Tallahassee which is a city with two major employers, State government and FSU.
"Texas has less to offer than Florida, but it has a better tech reputation. Maybe it's because they know how to do something other than lure in tourists and use minimum-wage under-educated workers to do it."
Florida has more than that including aerospace and shipbuilding but the reputation is correct. I still think it is the disconnect between the Universities that have good tech programs and where the tech companies in FL are.
It really is too bad, I feel that a good tech company could do really well here.
True.
Back in the dark ages when I graduated high school one of the required classes was called "comparative government". A few years early it was called Democracy vs Communism but they decided to tone it down a bit. I was in the class with two friends of mine and where actually getting into the class about four weeks into the class the teacher pulled us over and asked us to stop asking so many questions. He simply put it this way, "You guys are going to pass this class with As but I have kids in here that may not pass at all and not graduate. I do not have the time to answer your questions and help them pass."
Maybe a class in logic and critical thing would be a better mandatory class than programing.
But that type of grid can not handle the power distribution you are describing. You can not supply the north east with 100% of it's needs from a wind farm in west texas.