IE is - as stated above - being helpfull, as a program should be. It is not a "hijacking" since the program requesting the DNS-lookup is IE. This is nothing like having NXDOMAIN, transparently, changed into something it isn't on the network-level.
In one case the program gets to decide what to do and in the other someone else is telling your program that the expected result is something else.
They claim that the personal information regarding the Judge was removed prior to the call from the police - the call was an request to remove the information so they had complied with that request even before it was made.
Have you found out something new regarding the seizure? As far as I could read the seizure was warantless.
If I had mod-points I would mod the parent down...
In a lot of countries it is illegal to download unlicensed software. In a few countries it is legal (so far) to download and use pirated software but not to distribute. Anyhow.... Many companies use the old model of reimbursement (did I use that correctly?).
If a producer/company/programmer wants to charge money for their product that is their right!
What you are saying is analogous to breaking and entering to get a computer becuse it is expensive.... If somebody gives away computer then fine but I prefer to buy the things that are for sale and not stealing them.
I love the way that Linux/*BSD et al is changing the playing field but I wouldn't go advocating getting software without following the software owners wishes.
Just my 2 cents worth (Hey... You get what you pay for and I haven't gotten anything to write this:)
I maintain a pretty large network (about 300 locations with more than 30K akademic and other users) and we have rules handling this.
If a computer is relaying spam we ask the local organisation (school for example) to fix the problem within a fixed amount of time. If the local organisation is unwilling or unable to fix the problem we will help but we can shut down the links for the local organisation completeley. If we didn't do that then we ourselves would be shut down. What I hope is that, someday, the ISPs will do the same at each other.
The clueless/ignorant ISP wont survive long if they didn't implement proactive rules for handling abuse.
If the peer process worked then this wouldn't be a problem but more often than not the end user gets to carry the blame.
I Don't care if an ISP is the largest in a country... Shut them down untill they rectify the problem.
Oh.. BTW. A general filtering is not a solution. It would block a market (appliances that take care of your internet service needs like mail, web and so forth) and make it a "HTTP" only network.
I am all for Telias new rule. It will work (I must think like that unless I wan't to go postal:) )
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10 or 5 would make sense only in a 10-base culture. Anybody now which base the Incans used? Perhaps they didn't have a '0' (like the romans) and started of with 1 meaning an empty hand wich could mean 11 as a base?
I think it might be easier than that... Was the emplyee supposed to install the backdoor? If not... The dishonest act was committed before the employee was fired, and therefore it fits right in.
_If_ he was supposed to install the backdoor..... Hmmm.... Then somebody should get his head examined:)
Remember the hole in BIND from the beginning of this year? Big as a truck? If I recall correctly it was a TSIG related buffer overflow that made it possible to run code at the same priviledge as BIND (often root)...
A system with that problem was remotely available.
Well... If it was about Corel then it would be a no-problem since Corel actualy tries to make it easy for big corporations and governments to pay for what they use. I work with the problem on a daily basis and Microsoft licenses are hard to fullfill... I wan't to pay what I use but the licensedeals open for me is NOT helpfull.
Purchasing a computer can include an OperatingSystem license... How does that integate into the "select" license dealers records? Some computers are old and there are missing licenses in the first place... How do I justify me purchasing an upgrade license based on a receipt for a computer product which, by the way, doesn't include each item purchased? Must I purcase a new license? Can't do that 'cause thats misuse of funds.:(
It is an hopeless situation.. And before someone tells me to opt for the enterprise deal...
1. It is paying for the software you own already once more.
2. It is based on the number of machines running Windows, Sun Solaris, Unix of some kind and whatnot.. I'm not sure it doesn't count the machine used for in/out verification.
How 'bout the deal with CAL licenses... I own an computer.. And an OS license... I only connect to an NetWare server... And I still have to pay for an CAL license to microsoft? Client access license... It's a license for using the Client against a server.... But I already payed Novell for the clients? Tough...
No. I don't see Microsoft as an innocent company trying to enforce their license. In this case they kinda thinks "hell... They where stupid enough to sign the license... Let them prove they own the software! Not our problem to help them.".
Its a win-win for Microsoft anyhow... We are required to prove ourselves and even if a computer never did and never will run MS products we get the joy of paying the license anyhow. Otherwise we get fined an horrible amount of money and get branded as "the government who steals" wich gets a lot of people at that IT-management departement fired.
You mentioned Corel... They have a nice deal for schools (wich is the biggest loosers in this kind of situation. Because they don't have the staff or the longterm people who can deal with subtle license deals) and a lot of other softwaremakers also have nice flat deals.
Since it was mentioned I thought people would like to know more about "The Wave" so here goes...
The book "The Wave - a classroom out of control" was written by Todd Strasser, Harriet Harvey Coffin and Morton Rhue (some sources claim that Morton Rhue was the sole author) and was released in 1981 (Amazon.com link) with ISBN: 0440993717. There is a TV movie wich aired in 1981 (IMdb link).
It is based on a true story that occured in 1961.
disclaimer All info was found on the 'net and should be checked before any claims to the truthfullness of the information is made!
"The posting of the hacking code is akin to mass producing and distributing keys to a department store."?
Now that's an insightful comment... I can agree it's akin to make the keys... _IF_ you need said keys to even enter the store to do some shopping! Building a copy scheme wich is the same as the usage scheme is not only broken, it's plain stupid. In the good ole days of computer programs (games) the scheme often involved the manual, "Look at the fifth sentence's fourth word and add the numerical value on row 5, column 3 of the magic spell table" and such. This worked just because it was such a hassle to copy the manual though it didn't stop the copying because someone, somewhere thought the hassle was worth it. That kind of copy/usage scheme is never gonna work. Using encryption to block out those who don't use a "licensed" player and a "supported Operating System" and to block out people based on geographical location is, IMHO, wrong, stupid and "not good for sales". Does the DVD condone dicrimination? In my opinion it does because people with low budgets and developing countries are much more likel to use "free" software. Besides it also discriminates against people who happen to live "somewhere else" thanks to the "regional" scheme.
I thought we had come longer than this.
"Any spelling errors are my own and does not condone the sending of none spellcorrected messages."
Well... The ms/Linux part is quite interesting:) If Microsoft did a distro based on Linux (And they could do it if they wanted to) I think it would be called MS/Linux. But the points of all this (as I see it) is: The name used for the OS is Linux... Nothing more and nothing less. The name of the bundle (distro) is made up of the distromaker and Linux. Example: [Long] Red Hat Linux, [short] RH/Linux.
Now, if only FSF did a distro of Linux I would gladly call it GNU/Linux (or FSF/Linux if they wanted me too).
The GPL is an important part of Linux, yes, but not THE most important part... Without the cooperation and devotion of hundreds of user/developers Linux wouldn't exist, period.
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IE is - as stated above - being helpfull, as a program should be. It is not a "hijacking" since the program requesting the DNS-lookup is IE. This is nothing like having NXDOMAIN, transparently, changed into something it isn't on the network-level.
In one case the program gets to decide what to do and in the other someone else is telling your program that the expected result is something else.
Either way. I just filed a complaint with the BBC asking them to investigate this matter.
I'm in the process of filing a report with Swedish authorities to investigate this further.
They claim that the personal information regarding the Judge was removed prior to the call from the police - the call was an request to remove the information so they had complied with that request even before it was made.
Have you found out something new regarding the seizure? As far as I could read the seizure was warantless.
If I had mod-points I would mod the parent down...
:)
In a lot of countries it is illegal to download unlicensed software. In a few countries it is legal (so far) to download and use pirated software but not to distribute. Anyhow.... Many companies use the old model of reimbursement (did I use that correctly?).
If a producer/company/programmer wants to charge money for their product that is their right!
What you are saying is analogous to breaking and entering to get a computer becuse it is expensive.... If somebody gives away computer then fine but I prefer to buy the things that are for sale and not stealing them.
I love the way that Linux/*BSD et al is changing the playing field but I wouldn't go advocating getting software without following the software owners wishes.
Just my 2 cents worth (Hey... You get what you pay for and I haven't gotten anything to write this
Well...
:) )
I maintain a pretty large network (about 300 locations with more than 30K akademic and other users) and we have rules handling this.
If a computer is relaying spam we ask the local organisation (school for example) to fix the problem within a fixed amount of time. If the local organisation is unwilling or unable to fix the problem we will help but we can shut down the links for the local organisation completeley. If we didn't do that then we ourselves would be shut down. What I hope is that, someday, the ISPs will do the same at each other.
The clueless/ignorant ISP wont survive long if they didn't implement proactive rules for handling abuse.
If the peer process worked then this wouldn't be a problem but more often than not the end user gets to carry the blame.
I Don't care if an ISP is the largest in a country... Shut them down untill they rectify the problem.
Oh.. BTW. A general filtering is not a solution. It would block a market (appliances that take care of your internet service needs like mail, web and so forth) and make it a "HTTP" only network.
I am all for Telias new rule. It will work (I must think like that unless I wan't to go postal
10 or 5 would make sense only in a 10-base culture. Anybody now which base the Incans used?
Perhaps they didn't have a '0' (like the romans) and started of with 1 meaning an empty hand wich could mean 11 as a base?
Purely guesswork.
I think it might be easier than that...
:)
Was the emplyee supposed to install the backdoor? If not... The dishonest act was committed before the employee was fired, and therefore it fits right in.
_If_ he was supposed to install the backdoor..... Hmmm.... Then somebody should get his head examined
I like this...
It appeals to the "Dungeons and Dragons" player in me.
Now if I could just vanquish the monsters in there....
I could say the same to you... Research...
m l and, as always, Securityfocus is a great resource to use when investigating security flaws.
Remember the hole in BIND from the beginning of this year? Big as a truck? If I recall correctly it was a TSIG related buffer overflow that made it possible to run code at the same priviledge as BIND (often root)...
A system with that problem was remotely available.
Go check http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind-security.ht
You are (thus far) right about BIND 9 though.
Well... If it was about Corel then it would be a no-problem since Corel actualy tries to make it easy for big corporations and governments to pay for what they use. I work with the problem on a daily basis and Microsoft licenses are hard to fullfill... I wan't to pay what I use but the licensedeals open for me is NOT helpfull.
:(
Purchasing a computer can include an OperatingSystem license... How does that integate into the "select" license dealers records? Some computers are old and there are missing licenses in the first place... How do I justify me purchasing an upgrade license based on a receipt for a computer product which, by the way, doesn't include each item purchased? Must I purcase a new license? Can't do that 'cause thats misuse of funds.
It is an hopeless situation.. And before someone tells me to opt for the enterprise deal...
1. It is paying for the software you own already once more.
2. It is based on the number of machines running Windows, Sun Solaris, Unix of some kind and whatnot.. I'm not sure it doesn't count the machine used for in/out verification.
How 'bout the deal with CAL licenses... I own an computer.. And an OS license... I only connect to an NetWare server... And I still have to pay for an CAL license to microsoft? Client access license... It's a license for using the Client against a server.... But I already payed Novell for the clients? Tough...
No. I don't see Microsoft as an innocent company trying to enforce their license. In this case they kinda thinks "hell... They where stupid enough to sign the license... Let them prove they own the software! Not our problem to help them.".
Its a win-win for Microsoft anyhow... We are required to prove ourselves and even if a computer never did and never will run MS products we get the joy of paying the license anyhow. Otherwise we get fined an horrible amount of money and get branded as "the government who steals" wich gets a lot of people at that IT-management departement fired.
You mentioned Corel... They have a nice deal for schools (wich is the biggest loosers in this kind of situation. Because they don't have the staff or the longterm people who can deal with subtle license deals) and a lot of other softwaremakers also have nice flat deals.
Aaah... You are correct ofcourse...
:)
It was my so-called 'brain' wich got the two confused...
(TM needs defense... Patent does not... Try to remember
I'll try to think before my next post.
Even if the patent would stick he has invalidated any and all claims.
I do believe he is forced to enforce the patent against all infringements to keep it valid... And that is something he didn't do in the past.
Since it was mentioned I thought people would like to know more about "The Wave" so here goes...
The book "The Wave - a classroom out of control" was written by Todd Strasser, Harriet Harvey Coffin and Morton Rhue (some sources claim that Morton Rhue was the sole author) and was released in 1981 (Amazon.com link) with ISBN: 0440993717.
There is a TV movie wich aired in 1981 (IMdb link).
It is based on a true story that occured in 1961.
disclaimer
All info was found on the 'net and should be checked before any claims to the truthfullness of the information is made!
This got me wondering...
"The posting of the hacking code is akin to mass producing and distributing keys to a department store."?
Now that's an insightful comment... I can agree it's akin to make the keys... _IF_ you need said keys to even enter the store to do some shopping! Building a copy scheme wich is the same as the usage scheme is not only broken, it's plain stupid. In the good ole days of computer programs (games) the scheme often involved the manual, "Look at the fifth sentence's fourth word and add the numerical value on row 5, column 3 of the magic spell table" and such. This worked just because it was such a hassle to copy the manual though it didn't stop the copying because someone, somewhere thought the hassle was worth it. That kind of copy/usage scheme is never gonna work. Using encryption to block out those who don't use a "licensed" player and a "supported Operating System" and to block out people based on geographical location is, IMHO, wrong, stupid and "not good for sales". Does the DVD condone dicrimination? In my opinion it does because people with low budgets and developing countries are much more likel to use "free" software. Besides it also discriminates against people who happen to live "somewhere else" thanks to the "regional" scheme.
I thought we had come longer than this.
"Any spelling errors are my own and does not condone the sending of none spellcorrected messages."
Well... The ms/Linux part is quite interesting :)
If Microsoft did a distro based on Linux (And they could do it if they wanted to) I think it would be called MS/Linux.
But the points of all this (as I see it) is:
The name used for the OS is Linux... Nothing more and nothing less.
The name of the bundle (distro) is made up of the distromaker and Linux. Example: [Long] Red Hat Linux, [short] RH/Linux.
Now, if only FSF did a distro of Linux I would gladly call it GNU/Linux (or FSF/Linux if they wanted me too).
The GPL is an important part of Linux, yes, but not THE most important part... Without the cooperation and devotion of hundreds of user/developers Linux wouldn't exist, period.