If you include "xbox", which is how most people refer to the 360, you'll find both xbox and PS3 at nearly the same point. Which is interesting, considering that the PS3 was just released, and is already on a downtrend.
Sorry if infringed your territorial possession of the diagnostic criteria. I have a friend with a child who requires clinical treatment for autism, and as my parents once believed I was going deaf as a toddler, I'm terrified that I'm predisposed to having children the same way. I don't use the word in ignorance.
And the richest man in the world is mildly autistic. A nerd can do anyone's job, all they need to do is bother to learn it. It's a lot easier to fake a concern for social convention than it is to fake competence.
Do you not understand what is implied by the word entrepreneur? Ask the guys in jail for selling pirate DirecTV smartcards how lucrative the business it is.
Has your cable company gotten better? Has your cellular provider gotten better? The free market isn't magic fairy dust that fixes everything. Sometimes all competition does is encourage innovation in ways to nickle and dime you.
They all think of you as a consumer of services that only they can provide, not a consumer of commodity bandwidth. They want you dependent on them. They are established oligopolies used to getting their way and they believe you owe them.
The Internet envisaged by large corporations is AOL and X-Box Live. It's a captive environment with as many billable events as they can dream up. The only "problem" the market wants to solve is how to use price discrimination to extract the maximum revenue.
Now how many are going to hold off on Vista because Carmack said to.
Me. That Carmack fella is wicked smart, and you ought to listen to him.
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Isn't it cute how Apple fans will pontificate about the decisions around iPhone while seeming to know absolutely nothing about the mobile market?
Microsoft and Nokia had their "ZOMG, what if we had teh viruses!!1!" moment years ago. That's why Windows Mobile and Symbian already implement code signing. You guys will get that in Leopard someday, but who knows if it will make it to the iPhone OS X-lite in a reasonable time frame.
Besides, Cingular already sells the Palm Treo, an open device with few security features. It has never harmed Cingular's network and there's never been a large malware outbreak. The vast majority of mobile malware are proof-of-concepts written by security firms trying to scare up a new market. You are repeating a talking-point, FUD you don't understand.
What you are really saying is that Apple has less influence than Palm, and that the iPhone is so fundamentally insecure that it can't be sold without crippling it. You are claiming that introducing a $600 device with less functionality than all modern smartphones is a viable strategy for gaining market share, after which they will then be able to provide the functionality of their competitors.
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Holy geezus crisco, do you apply fanboys rove in packs? The grandparent gets modified 0 Troll and this is 3 Informative?
The iPhone does nothing a two-year-old Treo can't do, except do it all with an obnoxious gesture-based user interface. And I use Treo as an example because I consider it one of the worst platforms on which to implement that functionality.
And the lack of third-party applications disqualifies it from the moniker smartphone.
Hell yeah. TA has a purity and simplicity that is completely lacking in the RTS games that followed. That it scales flawlessly with your processor and the size of your screen is just icing on the cake.
We live in a country where the average working citizen works four or five months out of the year to pay for a bloated, corrupt, and evil government -- and you're bitching about not being able to enter into a state-sanctioned "marriage" with your homosexual lover? Give me a freakin' break!
It's even worse than that. Having sex with money is proscribed under the laws dealing with the defacement of currency.
That same article explained why: Apple wants the iPhone to work reliably, not to be known as a toy that can load various shareware apps, but which freezes erratically and is plagued with spyware and security hazards.
The Orwellian double-speak is mind-boggling. This is the world according to an Apple fanboy:
A device that can be adapted to do anything within the limits of technology and security: a toy. A device that does only what Apple product managers and Cingular marketers think you should be allowed to do with it: apparantly, not a toy.
Here's a little trivia: the Apple store uses either Symbol or Intermec-based handheld devices to scan products. These devices run either Palm OS or Windows CE. Apple uses toys to manage its invetory.
But I don't expect Apple to change with code signing in place.
This is not the same control provided by Symbian. I can download the Symbian SDKs without a contract or NDA, and I can deploy code to the vast majority of Symbian-based devices. Symbian is an open platform.
That word, it does not mean what you think it means. If you've entered an explicit contract with Apple to write your application and can only sell your application through their channels, you are not a third party.
I mean, I could have corrected your misunderstanding of the jargon "closed platform", but that wouldn't make any difference, now would it?
The irony is that many of us pissed about the closed nature of the device are so because we want to write software for it. Your fanboy inferiority complex need not be threatened, because we are impressed as hell with the device. It should be a crime that it will deprecated to the ghetto of a consumer appliance, and thus will hardly put a dent in the enterprise markets dominated by other smartphone manufacturers.
That "true believer" truly is an iTard. His entire understanding of the mobile market seems to be gleaned from searching Handango for cheap shareware games.
Some have unique platforms for programs (such as Verizon's BREW) that end up only offering expensive junk games, while others have third party development (such as Palm and WinCE / Windows Mobile) which tends to result in being insecure and unstable because the various apps that get loaded are prone to crash the system.
You forgot BlackBerry and the Symbian-based devices from Nokia and Sony-Ericsson. If you're going to spread FUD, don't be a coward and pick the easiest targets. The fact is, none of these devices have had any widespread security issues, due largely to the fact that malware authors tend to go for lower hanging fruit. BlackBerry, Symbian, and Windows Mobile have most of the same protections that desktop operating systems have, and employ code signing to guard sensitive APIs and to verify the source of applications. The Apple "iPhone" is no more or no less vulnerable - being a closed system is simply security by obscurity.
By the way, has being a closed system prevented the iPod from having issues, in both stability and functionality? What makes you think the first generation "iPhone" is going to be different?
Anecdotal evidence, from hundreds of people all over the country, all exhibiting one scenario and never the opposite, is evidence of a trend.
The annoying thing about all these discussions is that so few people recognize the role of price. We have no freakin' clue what the demand curve for these things looks like. When people say one has higher demand than the other, what they really mean is that one is closer to or lower than its clearing price than the other.
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The reason people "don't buy" Macs is the same reason people "don't buy" BMW cars.
They don't want others to presume they're obnoxious twats who derive self-esteem from a brand identity?
If you include "xbox", which is how most people refer to the 360, you'll find both xbox and PS3 at nearly the same point. Which is interesting, considering that the PS3 was just released, and is already on a downtrend.
'Cause god knows, those academic Marxists sure hate anything to do with semiotics.
Sorry if infringed your territorial possession of the diagnostic criteria. I have a friend with a child who requires clinical treatment for autism, and as my parents once believed I was going deaf as a toddler, I'm terrified that I'm predisposed to having children the same way. I don't use the word in ignorance.
And the richest man in the world is mildly autistic. A nerd can do anyone's job, all they need to do is bother to learn it. It's a lot easier to fake a concern for social convention than it is to fake competence.
It will be Universe of Starcraft. New and innovative, never been done before.
Wrong - Star Wars Galaxies. Shows how much you know.
(Damn fanboys, it's like they think Blizzard redefined the whole genre or something. And that sycophantic praise gets modded "insightful"!)
Do you not understand what is implied by the word entrepreneur? Ask the guys in jail for selling pirate DirecTV smartcards how lucrative the business it is.
And then some clever entrepeneur [sic] makes a cheap receiver that receives both, but for free.
And he'll go to jail. Do you have the slightest idea how these things work?
Has your cable company gotten better? Has your cellular provider gotten better? The free market isn't magic fairy dust that fixes everything. Sometimes all competition does is encourage innovation in ways to nickle and dime you.
They all think of you as a consumer of services that only they can provide, not a consumer of commodity bandwidth. They want you dependent on them. They are established oligopolies used to getting their way and they believe you owe them.
The Internet envisaged by large corporations is AOL and X-Box Live. It's a captive environment with as many billable events as they can dream up. The only "problem" the market wants to solve is how to use price discrimination to extract the maximum revenue.
Now how many are going to hold off on Vista because Carmack said to.
Me. That Carmack fella is wicked smart, and you ought to listen to him.
Isn't it cute how Apple fans will pontificate about the decisions around iPhone while seeming to know absolutely nothing about the mobile market?
Microsoft and Nokia had their "ZOMG, what if we had teh viruses!!1!" moment years ago. That's why Windows Mobile and Symbian already implement code signing. You guys will get that in Leopard someday, but who knows if it will make it to the iPhone OS X-lite in a reasonable time frame.
Besides, Cingular already sells the Palm Treo, an open device with few security features. It has never harmed Cingular's network and there's never been a large malware outbreak. The vast majority of mobile malware are proof-of-concepts written by security firms trying to scare up a new market. You are repeating a talking-point, FUD you don't understand.
What you are really saying is that Apple has less influence than Palm, and that the iPhone is so fundamentally insecure that it can't be sold without crippling it. You are claiming that introducing a $600 device with less functionality than all modern smartphones is a viable strategy for gaining market share, after which they will then be able to provide the functionality of their competitors.
Holy geezus crisco, do you apply fanboys rove in packs? The grandparent gets modified 0 Troll and this is 3 Informative?
The iPhone does nothing a two-year-old Treo can't do, except do it all with an obnoxious gesture-based user interface. And I use Treo as an example because I consider it one of the worst platforms on which to implement that functionality.
And the lack of third-party applications disqualifies it from the moniker smartphone.
A signing statement does not modify any law. A signing statement is a petulant child whining about the rules he is told to follow.
Hell yeah. TA has a purity and simplicity that is completely lacking in the RTS games that followed. That it scales flawlessly with your processor and the size of your screen is just icing on the cake.
Yeah, I'm sick of the PC thought police trying to blame all these deaths on water. Water doesn't kill people, radio DJs do.
We live in a country where the average working citizen works four or five months out of the year to pay for a bloated, corrupt, and evil government -- and you're bitching about not being able to enter into a state-sanctioned "marriage" with your homosexual lover? Give me a freakin' break!
It's even worse than that. Having sex with money is proscribed under the laws dealing with the defacement of currency.
That same article explained why: Apple wants the iPhone to work reliably, not to be known as a toy that can load various shareware apps, but which freezes erratically and is plagued with spyware and security hazards.
The Orwellian double-speak is mind-boggling. This is the world according to an Apple fanboy:
A device that can be adapted to do anything within the limits of technology and security: a toy.
A device that does only what Apple product managers and Cingular marketers think you should be allowed to do with it: apparantly, not a toy.
Here's a little trivia: the Apple store uses either Symbol or Intermec-based handheld devices to scan products. These devices run either Palm OS or Windows CE. Apple uses toys to manage its invetory.
The lack of code signing hasn't prevented Cingular from selling Treos.
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It appears they are working on it: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/142/449695/3
But I don't expect Apple to change with code signing in place.
This is not the same control provided by Symbian. I can download the Symbian SDKs without a contract or NDA, and I can deploy code to the vast majority of Symbian-based devices. Symbian is an open platform.
That word, it does not mean what you think it means. If you've entered an explicit contract with Apple to write your application and can only sell your application through their channels, you are not a third party.
Indeed you have. Was I right about the sticker?
I mean, I could have corrected your misunderstanding of the jargon "closed platform", but that wouldn't make any difference, now would it?
The irony is that many of us pissed about the closed nature of the device are so because we want to write software for it. Your fanboy inferiority complex need not be threatened, because we are impressed as hell with the device. It should be a crime that it will deprecated to the ghetto of a consumer appliance, and thus will hardly put a dent in the enterprise markets dominated by other smartphone manufacturers.
Translation: I have a picture of white fruit on my car and I don't actually develop anything or do anything with technology that affects the world.
That "true believer" truly is an iTard. His entire understanding of the mobile market seems to be gleaned from searching Handango for cheap shareware games.
Some have unique platforms for programs (such as Verizon's BREW) that end up only offering expensive junk games, while others have third party development (such as Palm and WinCE / Windows Mobile) which tends to result in being insecure and unstable because the various apps that get loaded are prone to crash the system.
You forgot BlackBerry and the Symbian-based devices from Nokia and Sony-Ericsson. If you're going to spread FUD, don't be a coward and pick the easiest targets. The fact is, none of these devices have had any widespread security issues, due largely to the fact that malware authors tend to go for lower hanging fruit. BlackBerry, Symbian, and Windows Mobile have most of the same protections that desktop operating systems have, and employ code signing to guard sensitive APIs and to verify the source of applications. The Apple "iPhone" is no more or no less vulnerable - being a closed system is simply security by obscurity.
By the way, has being a closed system prevented the iPod from having issues, in both stability and functionality? What makes you think the first generation "iPhone" is going to be different?
Anecdotal evidence, from hundreds of people all over the country, all exhibiting one scenario and never the opposite, is evidence of a trend.
The annoying thing about all these discussions is that so few people recognize the role of price. We have no freakin' clue what the demand curve for these things looks like. When people say one has higher demand than the other, what they really mean is that one is closer to or lower than its clearing price than the other.
If there is more demand for the Wii, no one can say how much... If there was actually more demand for the PS3, nobody could prove it.
"If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!"
When you said "was actually", was that a little sob? Are you crying?
Remember, I'm no Sony fanboy.
The words say no, but the painfully tortured logic is telling me YES!
Let's stop posting these worthless articles for the sake of the horde ok?
We need articles like this because it is immensely gratifying to kick Sony while they're down. The rootkit will not be forgotten or forgiven.