Why would you change the license on FreeBSD from the very very open more free than the GPL BSD license it's currently under to one that has less freedoms. The GPL is more restrictive than the BSD license by a long shot (And the Advertizing clause has been removed for a long time now)
As others have said, FreeBSD isn't going anywhere. Worst case is that FreeBSD becomes Not-FBSD because this company holds the copyright on the name and they have to rename the OS.
Mr. Slippery Wrote "Any "real techie" has a decent monitor with anti-glare coating...and positions it appropriately to reduce reflections."
Thats if your office has a budget to spring for that nice 21" monitor that everyone needs, or allows you to bring in your own hardware. In places where that doesn't happen You are at the mercy of whatever was cheapest the day they put in thier order for monitors. (Although i do have to say, now that we have bitched enough these 19"@85Hz monitors are *MUCH* better than them old 17"@60Hz)
The DeCSS code, on the other hand, is advertised as being a good way to get a lawsuit against you.
And now a word from our sponsers.
As you all know DeCSS is striving to send everyone who has a bad thought into the courtrooms for violating it. We've been running this advertisement for some time now so you better have seen it before now...
I dunno about you, but I missed that advertisement. To me the DeCSS code is a good way to back up DVD's and to learn a bit of video editing in my spare time.
Here, lemme spell it out for you. (And yes, i read the article, and no, i didn't expect to be moderated up... so stick it.)
#2: The "that-might-possibly-in-3000-years-turn-out-to-be- evidance-and-now-it's-the-governments" crap of confiscating computers is ludicrous. How could looking at a site be considered grounds for a search warrent?
There, looks better with Quotations, but I still stand by what i said. I think that the FBI goes way over thier rights when they take a person's Personal property.
Who knows what this will do to his college education, will he be branded with the "The FBI was investigating this kid, we better stay on our toes" brand? Will he now have his every step questioned by the school officials?
This is a serious breach of personal privacy and has further reaching ramifications than just his losing his computer.
My second point wasn't articulated properly, but was deciferable. Perhaps you should try reading and comprehension before you go forth flaming.
I prefer a nice fruit juice and stay away from the illegal substances thank you very much.
#1: Look at some timestamps on log files... If what was written is true he wasn't into the webpage until after it had been posted on various news sites.
#2: The that might possibly in 3000 years turn out to be evidance and now it's the governments crap of confiscating computers is ludicrous. How could looking at a site be considered grounds for a search warrent?
My bank (http://www.fleet.com) offers online banking and bill paying. It works nicely because if it is a business they have a relationship with (Utilities etc.) the bill goes directly to the recipient the day I request. Meaning I can pay my bill and KNOW it gets there THAT day. I can also do a bunch of nifty things like transfer funds to my friend who has an out of state account and all that stuff. Overall it's very nice, but if you use that AND checks it gets kinda confusing looking at a ballance that is multiple hundreds of dollars higher than you know you have available:)
No insult intended but you have no idea what you are talking about. This is USENET SPAM. Not e-mail spam. Usenet is infinately larger than any one person's e-mail. There are over 40,000 active newsgroups, and I have seen no public groups that didn't have at least 10 spam in the queue and that is a small number. You get groups such as comp.mail.sendmail which has 3800 messages alone. Even if 1 out of a hundred messages is a spam, thats 380 spam. Bring that across 40,000 newsgroups with pictures and other binaries, you have a HUGE chunk of diskspace, Bandwidth and CPU power that is taken up.
E-mail spam and usenet spam are very different beasts.
I've actually had a very good experiance with gateway returns on faulty Hardware. one morning my 17" monitor didn't power on, so I did all the standard trouble shooting short of opening the case of the monitor and checking the fuse (Which would have voided the warranty). When I called Tech Support I went directly into telling the person what the symptoms were, and the exact steps I did to troubleshoot the problem. Tech said "Well thats exactly what I would have asked you to do to check it. Give me the serial numbers and your customer number and I'll send a replacement out." I recieved a new monitor 3 days later.
Not all techs make you do it thier way everytime... only the new ones or the ones who think perhaps you may have missed something in your diagnosis.
It was the original Netquake v1.06. You know, with no client-side prediction and lag on your movements. The trade offs that John Carmack and crew made were made to make the gameplay better, not to make it so you can't cheat. I for one would rather risk the remote chance that I would be playing against someone who rewrote part of the code to cheat, than play with a 250ms delay to all of my input on the game again.
One thing that isn't really taken into account in all the stories are that most quake servers (Mine included) have a steady base of regular players, and that player base pretty much stays the same. We are all good friends who play and wouldn't play with cheat things like that and if they did we would know shortly after they started because they would get instantly better than they were the day before. Improvments like that don't happen in games like this.
I would say that ESR doesn't play quake much, and just wants to get his jabs in to give the closed source development sceme a blacker eye than it already has.
>Under the link to the crew is a list of what >they're having to eat. It seems that Curtis Brown >is having Rehydratable Shrimp Cocktails for both >lunch and dinner today! Must be nice.:)
I've noticed that as well, but when you consider in the costs for preparing the food (Whatever the food is) the difference between a $1 hot dog and a $10 shrip to the differance between a $201 hot dog and a $210 shrimp.
OK, I read the above and my wheels started spinning. I was thinking what the heck is this guy talking about? White girl? Nigger? Then I re-read the post above THAT and finally understood. Good arguement, but you should have put some of your own explanation into it. I bet this gets moderated down, but I don't think it desearves it. It just needs to be better explained by the poster. I agree with the idea of this though, the Whitehouse.gov is just another site. The government isn't(Shouldn't be) better than the people it serves. But it will always happen.
Gotta hate it when people don't keep up on security on the machines... THings like this are all too common. I know someone who recently got bit by the wu-ftpd exploit.
Actually you have to remember what the film was meant to be. It was meant to be a documentary and in the beggining they were carrying the camera around and getting all the wierd shots but when they got to the woods the novelty of it got out and they were using the camera when they didn't have the discomfort of having to carry it in their hands for hours on end. They take it off theirpacks when they stop for a break. And believe me while hiking a break every 3 hours or so is welcome. And if you've every hiked for multiple days you will see that yes you do get iritable and complain alot. That movie was completely believeable, I had heard NOTHING about it so when i went in I saw on the poster Something along the lines of In 1994 3 students went into the woods to do a documentary, a year later the footage was found. So I asked who i was going with (They knew nmore about the movie) if it was really a true story and she said "Yeah" So the entire movie I'm thinking that this is true footage of these 3 persons last days and everything that lead upto it. There was nothing there that needed explaining that wasn't explained. The bateries were explain in the beginning when they said they were carrying enough batteries to light a small country for a year. When i finally realized that the film wasn't a true story (I waited for the credits to roll because I wanted to know more of the story), I saw after the credits that it was an entirely fictional movie. I was MAD at my friend who had brought me. The movie got me worked up and scared more than i have been in YEARS.
I've seen people complain on here about how the rocks and the stick people weren't explained but I think that was part of the genous of the film. Imagine that YOU are the one there and there is nothing else around you, how would you get the explanation of the stick things?
For those unfortunet saps that didn't wait what happed at the very end?
Well, right at the end of the credits they go back to the guy who is hurt really really bad and do another scene with him. I believe the line was "Hello? Anyone up there? I've made a makeshift splint and well... here goes nothing! *snap* OOow."
They could easily post a link on where to get it without having that link benefit them in any way.
I'm sorry but if you feel that Rob doesn't desearve to be supported by us then there is something wrong with YOU. this is what he does for a living. How would you like to go out and spend a hell of a lot of time on your job and then saying "But don't bother buying this product from me because I told you all about it. Buy it from my competitor who did nothing to help you." You wouldn't would you?
Gore didn't invent the internet... true... can you deny that he helped make the internet what it is now? No. The Gore and Clinton campaigns made the Internet a BUZZWORD. If he keeps up this Open Source stuff, he may help contribute to it becoming a BUZZWORD. If he can do that, it can only be good for us. So don't put it down -yet-.
Wait... what you are saying is you want Open Source to be a buzzword? That is just BAD. Granted it may take longer to get Open Source out as something other than a buzzword but frankly Buzzwords lose 99% of their meaning QUICK! I say we actually teach people what open source is... not let a Half-baked guy do it for us. Geeze
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I have to disagree that the ad's are ineffective on TV.
My example is the "Whuzzup" series. People all over the place were copying that series of Commercial in language and otherwise.
Hell, budweiser.com has the commercials available for download!!
Just because you don't sit there and watch the commercial doesn't mean you don't see them.
Why would you change the license on FreeBSD from the very very open more free than the GPL BSD license it's currently under to one that has less freedoms. The GPL is more restrictive than the BSD license by a long shot (And the Advertizing clause has been removed for a long time now)
As others have said, FreeBSD isn't going anywhere. Worst case is that FreeBSD becomes Not-FBSD because this company holds the copyright on the name and they have to rename the OS.
The license is non restrictive.
Mr. Slippery Wrote "Any "real techie" has a decent monitor with anti-glare coating...and positions it appropriately to reduce reflections."
Thats if your office has a budget to spring for that nice 21" monitor that everyone needs, or allows you to bring in your own hardware. In places where that doesn't happen You are at the mercy of whatever was cheapest the day they put in thier order for monitors. (Although i do have to say, now that we have bitched enough these 19"@85Hz monitors are *MUCH* better than them old 17"@60Hz)
The DeCSS code, on the other hand, is advertised as being a good way to get a lawsuit against you.
And now a word from our sponsers.
As you all know DeCSS is striving to send everyone who has a bad thought into the courtrooms for violating it. We've been running this advertisement for some time now so you better have seen it before now...
I dunno about you, but I missed that advertisement. To me the DeCSS code is a good way to back up DVD's and to learn a bit of video editing in my spare time.
Actually, i think a better song would be:
"I think I'm a clone now" By Wierd Al
I think I'm a clone now
There always seems to be 2 of me just a hanging around.
It goes more aptly, I mean Lucas can't think seriously about his franchise with the names he is giving it right?
Actually... redhat's 6.1 release was called cartman. The computer name isn't listed there until you login.
...original Nintendo Entertainment System (NES). Most will know that for two-player mode you insert "select." Recite the same sequence to most...
Read the whole article...
Here, lemme spell it out for you. (And yes, i read the article, and no, i didn't expect to be moderated up... so stick it.)
- evidance-and-now-it's-the-governments" crap of confiscating computers is ludicrous. How could looking at a site be considered grounds for a search warrent?
#2: The "that-might-possibly-in-3000-years-turn-out-to-be
There, looks better with Quotations, but I still stand by what i said. I think that the FBI goes way over thier rights when they take a person's Personal property.
Who knows what this will do to his college education, will he be branded with the "The FBI was investigating this kid, we better stay on our toes" brand? Will he now have his every step questioned by the school officials?
This is a serious breach of personal privacy and has further reaching ramifications than just his losing his computer.
My second point wasn't articulated properly, but was deciferable. Perhaps you should try reading and comprehension before you go forth flaming.
I prefer a nice fruit juice and stay away from the illegal substances thank you very much.
I live 5 blocks from the RPI campus.
The FBI should look at some things...
#1: Look at some timestamps on log files... If what was written is true he wasn't into the webpage until after it had been posted on various news sites.
#2: The that might possibly in 3000 years turn out to be evidance and now it's the governments crap of confiscating computers is ludicrous. How could looking at a site be considered grounds for a search warrent?
Things like this are pathetic.
I'll wait til 7.2, Redhat has a nice long track record of the .2 of each series of being a nice stable version.
My bank (http://www.fleet.com) offers online banking and bill paying. It works nicely because if it is a business they have a relationship with (Utilities etc.) the bill goes directly to the recipient the day I request. Meaning I can pay my bill and KNOW it gets there THAT day. I can also do a bunch of nifty things like transfer funds to my friend who has an out of state account and all that stuff. Overall it's very nice, but if you use that AND checks it gets kinda confusing looking at a ballance that is multiple hundreds of dollars higher than you know you have available :)
No insult intended but you have no idea what you are talking about. This is USENET SPAM. Not e-mail spam. Usenet is infinately larger than any one person's e-mail. There are over 40,000 active newsgroups, and I have seen no public groups that didn't have at least 10 spam in the queue and that is a small number. You get groups such as comp.mail.sendmail which has 3800 messages alone. Even if 1 out of a hundred messages is a spam, thats 380 spam. Bring that across 40,000 newsgroups with pictures and other binaries, you have a HUGE chunk of diskspace, Bandwidth and CPU power that is taken up.
E-mail spam and usenet spam are very different beasts.
Try 426 days of uptime to move the server 10 feet around the corner. All 3 of them. I was fuming.
But what can ya do eh?
I've actually had a very good experiance with gateway returns on faulty Hardware. one morning my 17" monitor didn't power on, so I did all the standard trouble shooting short of opening the case of the monitor and checking the fuse (Which would have voided the warranty). When I called Tech Support I went directly into telling the person what the symptoms were, and the exact steps I did to troubleshoot the problem. Tech said "Well thats exactly what I would have asked you to do to check it. Give me the serial numbers and your customer number and I'll send a replacement out." I recieved a new monitor 3 days later.
Not all techs make you do it thier way everytime... only the new ones or the ones who think perhaps you may have missed something in your diagnosis.
It was the original Netquake v1.06. You know, with no client-side prediction and lag on your movements. The trade offs that John Carmack and crew made were made to make the gameplay better, not to make it so you can't cheat. I for one would rather risk the remote chance that I would be playing against someone who rewrote part of the code to cheat, than play with a 250ms delay to all of my input on the game again.
One thing that isn't really taken into account in all the stories are that most quake servers (Mine included) have a steady base of regular players, and that player base pretty much stays the same. We are all good friends who play and wouldn't play with cheat things like that and if they did we would know shortly after they started because they would get instantly better than they were the day before. Improvments like that don't happen in games like this.
I would say that ESR doesn't play quake much, and just wants to get his jabs in to give the closed source development sceme a blacker eye than it already has.
>Under the link to the crew is a list of what :)
>they're having to eat. It seems that Curtis Brown
>is having Rehydratable Shrimp Cocktails for both
>lunch and dinner today! Must be nice.
I've noticed that as well, but when you consider in the costs for preparing the food (Whatever the food is) the difference between a $1 hot dog and a $10 shrip to the differance between a $201 hot dog and a $210 shrimp.
Which would you prefer to eat?
OK, I read the above and my wheels started spinning. I was thinking what the heck is this guy talking about? White girl? Nigger? Then I re-read the post above THAT and finally understood. Good arguement, but you should have put some of your own explanation into it. I bet this gets moderated down, but I don't think it desearves it. It just needs to be better explained by the poster. I agree with the idea of this though, the Whitehouse.gov is just another site. The government isn't(Shouldn't be) better than the people it serves. But it will always happen.
Gotta hate it when people don't keep up on security on the machines... THings like this are all too common. I know someone who recently got bit by the wu-ftpd exploit.
We all already know that NT4.0 has BSD code in it... are they going to start putting more in and claiming it for their own? I don't like it.
Yeah and you KNOW this when you buy it.... no fraud.
Actually you have to remember what the film was meant to be. It was meant to be a documentary and in the beggining they were carrying the camera around and getting all the wierd shots but when they got to the woods the novelty of it got out and they were using the camera when they didn't have the discomfort of having to carry it in their hands for hours on end. They take it off theirpacks when they stop for a break. And believe me while hiking a break every 3 hours or so is welcome. And if you've every hiked for multiple days you will see that yes you do get iritable and complain alot. That movie was completely believeable, I had heard NOTHING about it so when i went in I saw on the poster Something along the lines of In 1994 3 students went into the woods to do a documentary, a year later the footage was found. So I asked who i was going with (They knew nmore about the movie) if it was really a true story and she said "Yeah" So the entire movie I'm thinking that this is true footage of these 3 persons last days and everything that lead upto it. There was nothing there that needed explaining that wasn't explained. The bateries were explain in the beginning when they said they were carrying enough batteries to light a small country for a year. When i finally realized that the film wasn't a true story (I waited for the credits to roll because I wanted to know more of the story), I saw after the credits that it was an entirely fictional movie. I was MAD at my friend who had brought me. The movie got me worked up and scared more than i have been in YEARS.
I've seen people complain on here about how the rocks and the stick people weren't explained but I think that was part of the genous of the film. Imagine that YOU are the one there and there is nothing else around you, how would you get the explanation of the stick things?
For those unfortunet saps that didn't wait what happed at the very end?
Well, right at the end of the credits they go back to the guy who is hurt really really bad and do another scene with him. I believe the line was "Hello? Anyone up there? I've made a makeshift splint and well... here goes nothing! *snap* OOow."
Did anyone else wait til the end of the Credits and see the Easter Egg?
Now THAT was hilarious.
They could easily post a link on where to get it without having that link benefit them in any way.
I'm sorry but if you feel that Rob doesn't desearve to be supported by us then there is something wrong with YOU. this is what he does for a living. How would you like to go out and spend a hell of a lot of time on your job and then saying "But don't bother buying this product from me because I told you all about it. Buy it from my competitor who did nothing to help you." You wouldn't would you?
Gore didn't invent the internet... true... can you deny that he helped make the internet what it is now? No. The Gore and Clinton campaigns made the Internet a BUZZWORD. If he keeps up this Open Source stuff, he may help contribute to it becoming a BUZZWORD. If he can do that, it can only be good for us. So don't put it down -yet-.
Wait... what you are saying is you want Open Source to be a buzzword? That is just BAD. Granted it may take longer to get Open Source out as something other than a buzzword but frankly Buzzwords lose 99% of their meaning QUICK! I say we actually teach people what open source is... not let a Half-baked guy do it for us. Geeze