Yes but what happens as A) The population continually increases B) The proportion of unskilled jobs relative to the total job market continues to decline (caveat: jobs that pay enough for even a single person to survive off of) and C) Inflation eats away at nominal pay increases
(hint: The end result is not a society anyone would want to live in. Armed guards and gated communities will only keep you safe for so long.)
If the growth in "skilled" jobs, or even jobs that pay a livable wage increased in relation to population growth/immigration, it would be different. but i don't think anyone can reasonably believe that's the case. Or is it a social Darwinism argument thinly veiled with "omg robots = progress!"?
I'm going to sound like a bleeding-heart here, but how do we justify corporate profits going through the roof (which they have, during the period in question), while at the same time declaring that the people who actually create those profits, should become continually poorer?
we didn't have double digit inflation or gas rationing for the entire decade either. The truth is, real income per capita has not increased since the 1970's. Wealth has increased, GDP has increased (dramatically) but the distribution has been skewed such that working class people haven't seen any increase at all. There seems to be a disconnect on this site (being tech oriented) folks working in IT seeming to have this notion that because they can get livable wages pretty easily, the same holds for everyone else. This is not true. We are a minority in the economy -- there are far more people working in service/retail/construction/manufacturing than IT. This arrogant line of thinking comes off as "herpa derpa, stop being poor, get a real job"
Silly n=1 example. My father worked as a janitor at SeaTac in the 70's while attending UW* -- his wage using 2006 dollars would have been around $17 an hour. Not a ton, but definitely livable.
*at that time you could go to a state school on a night job, even one as low-paying as a janitor. Do you really mean to tell me the economic prospects in america are far better now, than they were?
that.. is completely nonsensical? if an MP3 player can be connected to a computer it's exempt? shouldn't it be the other way around?:) (it's nonsensical for other reasons, but that's the one that caught my eye.)
I'm surprised the MPAA hasn't forced/coerced the cmos makers (forgive my lack of technical jargon here -- whoever makes the sensors that go into digital cameras) to include some kind of stenographic watermarking/disabling mechanism similar to what you see if you attempt to photocopy currency.
basically, if you try to record a film, the sensor picks up the watermark and stops recording/blackscreen/no audio/etc.
But the real issue is.. holy fuck. 5 hours -- over at worst a partially recorded movie? Holy fuck, going through ALL of your data, even on an unrelated device? I guess he consented to the search, but how could any sane person think that's a proportional response?
the whole point of these programs is to kind of 'leapfrog' a country's current level of technology/skill. If the state pays for a student to study abroad (i'm looking at you Saudi Arabia), it should absolutely be implied that the student *should* return home to put those skills to use.
Seriously? I really can't tell if this is a politician trolling, or if it's the Onion.. OR for the love of god, any politician anywhere really feels this way? Ireland, if this is true -- you have my sympathies, apparently our idiocy and surveillance state mentality jumped the containment barrier (i'm in the US):(
How in the heck did the idea of 'privacy' which, used to be one of the tenets of western civilization become something that our elected leaders (who are supposed to be on OUR side) actively try to quash? What is wrong with that picture. Did we learn nothing from the USSR and the Iron Curtain?
Not all jobs are equal. For a middle class to exist you need large numbers of workers creating things of value. that is not IT, that is not robotics repair/maintenance, and it's certainly not tech support. (yes all of those things you listed can pay well -- but at the end of the line, something somewhere of value must be created to pay for them.)
I dunno, i thought the same until i played FF6 on android. the onscreen controls work surprisingly well (basically emulating an analog joystick via touch). There's no real technical reason that more involved RPG's or games with depth can be created.. Sure anything beyond what you'd find playable on a 8 to 32 bit console might be dicey, but for your standard RPG, the limitation isn't baked into the hardware. It's Similar to the mindset of tablet = content consumption.. the mindset of android game = tower defense/puzzle/casual/whatever nonsense isn't rooted in anything besides lazy app developers taking the lowest common denominator and trying to create the next high volume, low cost time-waster.
I'm not sure i'd call the fixation many, many people have towards their cell phones an advance of any kind socially. The people who check their phone for twitter/facebook/sms/email whatever every 30 seconds look like a cross between zombies and rodents in a skinner box.
Seconded. I have an asus ux31a; 13.3 inch screen @ 1920x1080 (medicore specs on the ssd and ram -- as well as being un-upgradeable.) But overall it's a nice laptop, weighing in at ~2.2 pounds.
Since getting it in may 2013, I've wound up stowing my kindle fire. Of course it was around 900 dollars, but if you want a decent laptop with a good screen and light weight, an ultrabook might do what you want (provided you're willing to pay the premium).
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by that logic.. is apple bad because of their address?
New goal: start a tech company and have the address be 1/0 $company way
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Yes but what happens as A) The population continually increases B) The proportion of unskilled jobs relative to the total job market continues to decline (caveat: jobs that pay enough for even a single person to survive off of) and C) Inflation eats away at nominal pay increases
(hint: The end result is not a society anyone would want to live in. Armed guards and gated communities will only keep you safe for so long.)
If the growth in "skilled" jobs, or even jobs that pay a livable wage increased in relation to population growth/immigration, it would be different. but i don't think anyone can reasonably believe that's the case. Or is it a social Darwinism argument thinly veiled with "omg robots = progress!"?
I'm going to sound like a bleeding-heart here, but how do we justify corporate profits going through the roof (which they have, during the period in question), while at the same time declaring that the people who actually create those profits, should become continually poorer?
Why don't the googlers just move into the Tenderloin. It's due for some improvement :)
we didn't have double digit inflation or gas rationing for the entire decade either. The truth is, real income per capita has not increased since the 1970's. Wealth has increased, GDP has increased (dramatically) but the distribution has been skewed such that working class people haven't seen any increase at all. There seems to be a disconnect on this site (being tech oriented) folks working in IT seeming to have this notion that because they can get livable wages pretty easily, the same holds for everyone else. This is not true. We are a minority in the economy -- there are far more people working in service/retail/construction/manufacturing than IT. This arrogant line of thinking comes off as "herpa derpa, stop being poor, get a real job"
Silly n=1 example. My father worked as a janitor at SeaTac in the 70's while attending UW* -- his wage using 2006 dollars would have been around $17 an hour. Not a ton, but definitely livable.
*at that time you could go to a state school on a night job, even one as low-paying as a janitor. Do you really mean to tell me the economic prospects in america are far better now, than they were?
that.. is completely nonsensical? if an MP3 player can be connected to a computer it's exempt? shouldn't it be the other way around? :) (it's nonsensical for other reasons, but that's the one that caught my eye.)
off topic, but CCR was from southern california :) that whole "born on the bayou" thing was a fraud.
basically, if you try to record a film, the sensor picks up the watermark and stops recording/blackscreen/no audio/etc.
But the real issue is.. holy fuck. 5 hours -- over at worst a partially recorded movie? Holy fuck, going through ALL of your data, even on an unrelated device? I guess he consented to the search, but how could any sane person think that's a proportional response?
no sir, apparently if you want to ensure no one records something -- put it in a movie theater. :(
You should go read Orwell's seminal masterwork of the lead-up to the great porcine war -- ignoring the cloyingly cutesy name: "Animal Farm".
the whole point of these programs is to kind of 'leapfrog' a country's current level of technology/skill. If the state pays for a student to study abroad (i'm looking at you Saudi Arabia), it should absolutely be implied that the student *should* return home to put those skills to use.
I think the true cause of mortality in that scenario is a freak gasoline fight accident.
what in the actual fuck are you talking about.
How in the heck did the idea of 'privacy' which, used to be one of the tenets of western civilization become something that our elected leaders (who are supposed to be on OUR side) actively try to quash? What is wrong with that picture. Did we learn nothing from the USSR and the Iron Curtain?
sure. step 1: find a devout mormon or seventh day adventist. (there is no step 2)
so you like the word 'sheeple' I take it?
but will it be televised?
and that's why they're criminals, dude.
Not all jobs are equal. For a middle class to exist you need large numbers of workers creating things of value. that is not IT, that is not robotics repair/maintenance, and it's certainly not tech support. (yes all of those things you listed can pay well -- but at the end of the line, something somewhere of value must be created to pay for them.)
I dunno, i thought the same until i played FF6 on android. the onscreen controls work surprisingly well (basically emulating an analog joystick via touch). There's no real technical reason that more involved RPG's or games with depth can be created.. Sure anything beyond what you'd find playable on a 8 to 32 bit console might be dicey, but for your standard RPG, the limitation isn't baked into the hardware. It's Similar to the mindset of tablet = content consumption.. the mindset of android game = tower defense/puzzle/casual/whatever nonsense isn't rooted in anything besides lazy app developers taking the lowest common denominator and trying to create the next high volume, low cost time-waster.
blah blah time dilation due to gravity blah blah relativity.
i kind of.. don't like the idea of pharma getting customers (end users) to purchase ANYTHING. even as something as inane and pointless as this.
Woah. an electric car owner who's not a smug jerk, and has a sense of realism about his/her purchase? amazing.
I'm not sure i'd call the fixation many, many people have towards their cell phones an advance of any kind socially. The people who check their phone for twitter/facebook/sms/email whatever every 30 seconds look like a cross between zombies and rodents in a skinner box.
point well taken about the cost though :(
Since getting it in may 2013, I've wound up stowing my kindle fire. Of course it was around 900 dollars, but if you want a decent laptop with a good screen and light weight, an ultrabook might do what you want (provided you're willing to pay the premium).