Yes but I am smarter than you so my thoughts on your comments hold more weight.
Ah, I thought you were a troll. Never understood you people - being rude and stirring up trouble is easy to do. Any fool can do it by accident. Being a good troll is like being a good navel lint collector or something. (If you really are 'smart', try doing something productive... you'll discover how competent you are in short order.)
So, while I've got you on the line, so to speak, why do you do it? What's the point? Are you unable to have a useful conversation, so out of spite you try to spoil things for others? Do you feel powerless and this is a way to at least get a reaction from someone? (My four-year-old acts out to get attention, too. His spelling isn't as good as yours, though, I have to admit.) Or do you even know why you do it?
Relatively obsolete tech is fine, but I'm looking for: "features that are not considered obsolete in the least"
My Handera 330 did all of that, and came out in mid-2001 (i.e. over 3 years ago). SD and CF slot (CF worked for memory, serial, ethernet, WiFi, GPS, etc.; SD was memory only). Could run on a Lithium battery pack or AAA batteries. WAV recording and playback, etc. It did it all with a 33MHz 68K processor, and you can't get much more obsolete than that. But I could still surf the web and SSH over WiFi with it, no problem.
Looks like I might as well just get another one. Ah, well.
Sure. What exact models should I put into Google/Froogle? Will your query pick up how much older iPaqs are going for on eBay? How many reviews list current prices and not historical ones?
If you hit Google groups and look for "inexpensive handheld that can run linux" you'll see my (mostly unanswered) questions about it.
I did STFW, and came up dry, but that doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there who knows more than me. Perhaps you are such a person, but you haven't provided evidence for that (yet).
I was considering the PalmOne Zire21. Anyone know if/how well these work with Linux?
Yeah, it should work fine. Google groups says it does. And, so far as battery goes, the 21 is supposed to a lot better than most. Note that the screen doesn't have a backlight, so you'll need good illumination to read it.
Then the inability to right-click on the ads to do "block images from this server" in Mozilla.
Set up a bookmark (e.g. "Give me my button back!") with the content: "javascript:void(document.oncontextmenu=null)". You can click this to unbork such shenanigans.
Can't take cradit for it, someone else told me about it. But it's cool.
concrete and asphault can easily withstand the psi of a person picking up even a bus... you don't run into a problem with ground deformation (beneath asphault) until you exceed 40 tons/Sq inch so
Cool! Now try balancing that load.
And when you walk, the weight shifts dynamically, and can get focused on just a few square inches. (Or less, if you're Wonder Woman and wearing heels.) I'd expect a lot of crappy roads wouldn't handle that well.
Besides, the bus probably isn't designed to be supported by a few square inches, and your hands will likely punch through in fairly short order. No, what we really need for this problem is telekinesis, or at least strong magnetic fields. Maybe wind control...
Another thought. Why not simply use Compact Flash type 2? Allthough there isn't really enough info in the article to compare them..
That's PCMCIA technology, not even Cardbus. Too slow for what they are targeting. They want a videocard on one of these, and CF is limited to, max, about 12MB/sec. And CF has to tolerate much slower speeds, like on a 33MHz PDA.
You can no more prove or disprove the existence of God than Spock could prove or disprove the existence of Gene Roddenberry. Your statement, like mine, is a statement of faith.
My Handera 330 was stolen on a business trip a couple weeks ago. It was a long flight home without it. I've gotten past denial and anger, and now I'm trying to decide what to get for a replacement.
Color screens are nice, we can all agree. But I hate having to worry about batteries all the time. My little grayscale handheld could run for a month before I'd need to swap batteries.
I think I'm just going to get another H330 off eBay. I want the damn think to work, whenever I need it. I play games with lush graphics... but not on a three-inch screen. If you want nice games on a screen like that, you'd better not force people to ration their usage and manage power like that.
Mine, too. It's not a laptop replacement, but it does the kind of things I need it to do, and can be made to do a lot of laptop things (e.g. SSH) in a pinch.
Do you know what the maximum sized CF is that it can take?
Well, it takes those IBM microdrives (1GB hard drive in a CF Type II form factor), so I'd imagine that true flash-memory based ones wouldn't be a problem. I use a 48MB CF card for backups and a 128MB SD card to store apps and data. I've also got a CF 802.11b card, and that works a treat.
A lot of recent software doesn't work for it (mostly graphical games), but there is a way to flash it up to Palm OS 4.1 (look for the heos41 Yahoo group).
I'm too scared to have my ssh server exposed to the raw net. Things like port knocking and so forth help, but suffer from reliability and resource problems. I created an authentication protocol that's correct by inspection and utterly immune to any attack short of actually finding out the secret key.
In these days of 0-day exploits, I just can't take the chance that someone will find a hole in ssh and create a Warhol-worm before I can install a patch. I sleep better now...
You want a Handera 330. Too bad they're discontinued, but you can find 'em on eBay for fairly cheap.
If you want a color screen, good luck with AAA batteries. They just can't deliver the kind of power that such a screen currently needs for any significant length of time. Even the Li-ion batteries they use now have trouble keeping those screens going for more than a few hours. My H330 runs for weeks on its (optional) Li-ion battery pack.
Last Friday I went over to my cousin's house and cleaned her computer. (Can't quite get her to switch to Linux... yet.) Took all evening, and I finally had to boot into DOS and remove some files that way. One of them called "Wintools" had even set the 'hidden' and 'read-only' attributes, if I hadn't remembered 'attrib' I'd have had to wipe the thing and reinstall.
One of them had screwed up shutdown; it would freeze and she'd have to power-cycle, invoking a scandisk the next time. I don't know if it was intentional (to encourage the user keep the system running) or just crap programming, but either way the damn things could *not* be uninstalled without major surgery.
Going forward, your best way to understand what the software does now is by talking through it with the people you have access to, and using it (reading and commenting the code when you aren't sure what's going on).
My group inherited a bunch of code from another group; almost the worst possible situation (the original product was a prototype that had been shoved into production, the code was meant to be 'portable' but was never actually ported, and hence full of gotchas, etc.).
Ever read 'The Art of Unix Programming'? When he said, "The combination of threads, remote-procedure-call interfaces, and heavyweight object-oriented design is especially dangerous... if you are ever invited onto a project that is supposed to feature all three, fleeing in terror might well be an appropriate reaction.", he wasn't kidding. One of our guys found 1500 lines of code that didn't do anything.
The key thing is to figure out where the joints are. Find the interfaces, the ways different peices talk to each other. Understanding this is usually the key to how the whole code is organized. It tells you how the authors thought about it. And it also tells you what parts can be incrementally replaced without having to throw out the whole shebang.
Well, see, marriage is between a man and a woman, it's been like that for thousands of years.
Well, technically, it's been "between [at least one] man and [at least one] woman" for thousands of years. But no need to quibble about minor variations like that, right?
[Iraq] has a higher potential for economic industry rebuilding anytime soon.
Turns out the main engine for that (oil) has an infrastructure that's relatively easy to disrupt. Thank goodness (and the troops) that the oil fields weren't set on fire like last time, but production just hasn't been anything close to the pre-invasion estimates.
I agree Iraq has more long-term potential, but a successful example of reconstruction in Afghanistan would make the P.R. job in Iraq a lot easier.
...basically, we are boxing Iran in.
...and that's one of the reasons they are pursuing, or at least trying to give the impression they may pursue, nuclear weapons. Note that the other member of the "Axis of Eeevil" is also pursuing nukes. They figure that's the best way to fend off a U.S. invasion.
Chalabi was one of the darlings of the administration, and it now appears he may have been working for Iran, quite possibly feeding them intel and us disinformation. Iran may not like the U.S. at all, but they've been at actual war w/Iraq not that long ago. It appears to be one of the reasons Saddam was running his WMD bluff, to keep Iran out.
maybe you haven't noticed they [Afghanistan] are well on their way.
Warlords (i.e. armed thugs) are still running big chunks of the country. The elections went well, but I think a lot of that was that most of the people who'd want to interfere with them have been drawn into Iraq. The 'warlords' aren't being pushed on heroin, so they haven't fought much, but that can't continue indefinitely if long-term progress is to be made.
Yeah, it's a long-term commitment. I wish we'd gotten way further along before we'd moved on to the next long-term commitment.
They expected a lot more resistance in the opening weeks of the event.
They also expected to be greeted as liberators. There was never a question that the U.S. military would kix six kinds of crap out of the Iraqi army. There should have been a lot more planning for the post-military campaign. They were seriously expecting to be at vastly reduced troop strength by September of last year.
This isn't all 'soldiers who went to ground'. The foreign insurgents are causing plenty of trouble and have plenty of active and passive support from big chunks of the populace, and this shouldn't be a surprise.
[International support] would not increase appreciably under a Kerry administration
Well, it could hardly get much worse. And Europe's a lot closer to the area than the U.S.; they have an interest in avoiding a catastrophic failure there. Even if we don't get actual troops, money and material is a huge chunk (perhaps the largest piece) of all in a military operation (which, let's face it, this still is).
the US is in "Iraq" because it was an easy target in the region, period
Easier than Afghanistan? If we'd stayed in Afghanistan, we'd have the same problem with insurgents moving in from other countries, but the native populace was actually sick of radical Islamic rule. Add in the fact that the infrastructure was already in a shambles (any improvement we could make would be dramatically better than the existing situation) and the reason it was in a shambles was because the Soviets had bombed the heck out of them... and the U.S. was the country that helped them. Not to mention the worldwide support for the invasion of Afghanistan.
The insurgents would have had a lot less native support, and we'd have had a lot more international support. If we'd ponied up the kind of dough there that we are currently hemorrhaging in Iraq, the place would be well on its way to a stable democracy.
Instead, we opened up a two-front war, in far less favorable conditions. The Bush administration vastly underestimated the amount and kind of resistance they'd face. Either that, or they flatout lied to rally support for it. Now that we're there, we have to finish the job, but it would be vastly easier with some international support for the operation, and that ain't gonna happen while Bush is in charge.
God doesn't have to be logically consistent, for Heaven's sake!
Ah, if logic doesn't apply, then God is a ham sandwich. Pickles! Pickles! Vampire frogs, they're everywhere!
(As Ethan Allen said:
Those who invalidate reason, ought seriously to consider, whether they argue against reason, with or without reason; if with reason, then they establish the principle, that they are laboring to dethrone; but if they argue without reason, (which, in order to be consistent with themselves, they must do,) they are out of the reach of rational conviction, nor do they deserve a rational argument.)
How can you even try to UNDERSTAND Him, if He is infinitely omniscient and omnipotent???
Let's assume that's true; I am unable to comprehend It's actions. Well... Who, then, deliberately made me too stupid to understand It? Where does the fault lie?:->
In any case, the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is logically inconsistent, so I believe It cannot exist.
We can reason about infinite quantities, no problem. For example, there are infinitely many integers, and infinitely many real numbers. We can't conceive of them all. But it's possible to prove that, even though they are both infinite in number, there are more real numbers than integers.
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As I recall, there were problems doing AppleTalk over serial stuff. I have an old Mac IIsi that I might hook up for grins if so. I have an Ethernet card, but it's busy in my SE/30 running my website.:->
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Ah, I thought you were a troll. Never understood you people - being rude and stirring up trouble is easy to do. Any fool can do it by accident. Being a good troll is like being a good navel lint collector or something. (If you really are 'smart', try doing something productive... you'll discover how competent you are in short order.)
So, while I've got you on the line, so to speak, why do you do it? What's the point? Are you unable to have a useful conversation, so out of spite you try to spoil things for others? Do you feel powerless and this is a way to at least get a reaction from someone? (My four-year-old acts out to get attention, too. His spelling isn't as good as yours, though, I have to admit.) Or do you even know why you do it?
Well, a Handera 330 for auction, without the box, cradle, or charging cable, in Europe, would be a decent indication. It was stolen in Ireland.
I didn't say I had much hope, but it's hardly impossible. Most likely it ended up in a pawnshop or something.
By the way - your comments in reply to the other comments in this article are rather bitchy and whiney.
Gee, I had the same feeling about your "STFW" comment. :->
Too bad the ending was so lame. I enjoyed it otherwise. They left a few too many things dangling for a sequel, I suppose.
My Handera 330 did all of that, and came out in mid-2001 (i.e. over 3 years ago). SD and CF slot (CF worked for memory, serial, ethernet, WiFi, GPS, etc.; SD was memory only). Could run on a Lithium battery pack or AAA batteries. WAV recording and playback, etc. It did it all with a 33MHz 68K processor, and you can't get much more obsolete than that. But I could still surf the web and SSH over WiFi with it, no problem.
Looks like I might as well just get another one. Ah, well.
If you hit Google groups and look for "inexpensive handheld that can run linux" you'll see my (mostly unanswered) questions about it. I did STFW, and came up dry, but that doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there who knows more than me. Perhaps you are such a person, but you haven't provided evidence for that (yet).
Yeah, it should work fine. Google groups says it does. And, so far as battery goes, the 21 is supposed to a lot better than most. Note that the screen doesn't have a backlight, so you'll need good illumination to read it.
Don't think I haven't been keeping an eye on eBay and such.
Set up a bookmark (e.g. "Give me my button back!") with the content: "javascript:void(document.oncontextmenu=null)". You can click this to unbork such shenanigans.
Can't take cradit for it, someone else told me about it. But it's cool.
Cool! Now try balancing that load.
And when you walk, the weight shifts dynamically, and can get focused on just a few square inches. (Or less, if you're Wonder Woman and wearing heels.) I'd expect a lot of crappy roads wouldn't handle that well.
Besides, the bus probably isn't designed to be supported by a few square inches, and your hands will likely punch through in fairly short order. No, what we really need for this problem is telekinesis, or at least strong magnetic fields. Maybe wind control...
That's PCMCIA technology, not even Cardbus. Too slow for what they are targeting. They want a videocard on one of these, and CF is limited to, max, about 12MB/sec. And CF has to tolerate much slower speeds, like on a 33MHz PDA.
Depends on the God...
Color screens are nice, we can all agree. But I hate having to worry about batteries all the time. My little grayscale handheld could run for a month before I'd need to swap batteries.
I think I'm just going to get another H330 off eBay. I want the damn think to work, whenever I need it. I play games with lush graphics... but not on a three-inch screen. If you want nice games on a screen like that, you'd better not force people to ration their usage and manage power like that.
Lots easier to work with multiple places (home, work, web, etc.)
Mine, too. It's not a laptop replacement, but it does the kind of things I need it to do, and can be made to do a lot of laptop things (e.g. SSH) in a pinch.
Do you know what the maximum sized CF is that it can take?
Well, it takes those IBM microdrives (1GB hard drive in a CF Type II form factor), so I'd imagine that true flash-memory based ones wouldn't be a problem. I use a 48MB CF card for backups and a 128MB SD card to store apps and data. I've also got a CF 802.11b card, and that works a treat.
A lot of recent software doesn't work for it (mostly graphical games), but there is a way to flash it up to Palm OS 4.1 (look for the heos41 Yahoo group).
In these days of 0-day exploits, I just can't take the chance that someone will find a hole in ssh and create a Warhol-worm before I can install a patch. I sleep better now...
If you want a color screen, good luck with AAA batteries. They just can't deliver the kind of power that such a screen currently needs for any significant length of time. Even the Li-ion batteries they use now have trouble keeping those screens going for more than a few hours. My H330 runs for weeks on its (optional) Li-ion battery pack.
Gee, thanks!
Last Friday I went over to my cousin's house and cleaned her computer. (Can't quite get her to switch to Linux... yet.) Took all evening, and I finally had to boot into DOS and remove some files that way. One of them called "Wintools" had even set the 'hidden' and 'read-only' attributes, if I hadn't remembered 'attrib' I'd have had to wipe the thing and reinstall.
One of them had screwed up shutdown; it would freeze and she'd have to power-cycle, invoking a scandisk the next time. I don't know if it was intentional (to encourage the user keep the system running) or just crap programming, but either way the damn things could *not* be uninstalled without major surgery.
My group inherited a bunch of code from another group; almost the worst possible situation (the original product was a prototype that had been shoved into production, the code was meant to be 'portable' but was never actually ported, and hence full of gotchas, etc.).
Ever read 'The Art of Unix Programming'? When he said, "The combination of threads, remote-procedure-call interfaces, and heavyweight object-oriented design is especially dangerous... if you are ever invited onto a project that is supposed to feature all three, fleeing in terror might well be an appropriate reaction.", he wasn't kidding. One of our guys found 1500 lines of code that didn't do anything.
The key thing is to figure out where the joints are. Find the interfaces, the ways different peices talk to each other. Understanding this is usually the key to how the whole code is organized. It tells you how the authors thought about it. And it also tells you what parts can be incrementally replaced without having to throw out the whole shebang.
Well, technically, it's been "between [at least one] man and [at least one] woman" for thousands of years. But no need to quibble about minor variations like that, right?
Turns out the main engine for that (oil) has an infrastructure that's relatively easy to disrupt. Thank goodness (and the troops) that the oil fields weren't set on fire like last time, but production just hasn't been anything close to the pre-invasion estimates.
I agree Iraq has more long-term potential, but a successful example of reconstruction in Afghanistan would make the P.R. job in Iraq a lot easier.
Chalabi was one of the darlings of the administration, and it now appears he may have been working for Iran, quite possibly feeding them intel and us disinformation. Iran may not like the U.S. at all, but they've been at actual war w/Iraq not that long ago. It appears to be one of the reasons Saddam was running his WMD bluff, to keep Iran out.
maybe you haven't noticed they [Afghanistan] are well on their way.
Warlords (i.e. armed thugs) are still running big chunks of the country. The elections went well, but I think a lot of that was that most of the people who'd want to interfere with them have been drawn into Iraq. The 'warlords' aren't being pushed on heroin, so they haven't fought much, but that can't continue indefinitely if long-term progress is to be made.
Yeah, it's a long-term commitment. I wish we'd gotten way further along before we'd moved on to the next long-term commitment.
They expected a lot more resistance in the opening weeks of the event.
They also expected to be greeted as liberators. There was never a question that the U.S. military would kix six kinds of crap out of the Iraqi army. There should have been a lot more planning for the post-military campaign. They were seriously expecting to be at vastly reduced troop strength by September of last year.
This isn't all 'soldiers who went to ground'. The foreign insurgents are causing plenty of trouble and have plenty of active and passive support from big chunks of the populace, and this shouldn't be a surprise.
[International support] would not increase appreciably under a Kerry administration
Well, it could hardly get much worse. And Europe's a lot closer to the area than the U.S.; they have an interest in avoiding a catastrophic failure there. Even if we don't get actual troops, money and material is a huge chunk (perhaps the largest piece) of all in a military operation (which, let's face it, this still is).
Easier than Afghanistan? If we'd stayed in Afghanistan, we'd have the same problem with insurgents moving in from other countries, but the native populace was actually sick of radical Islamic rule. Add in the fact that the infrastructure was already in a shambles (any improvement we could make would be dramatically better than the existing situation) and the reason it was in a shambles was because the Soviets had bombed the heck out of them... and the U.S. was the country that helped them. Not to mention the worldwide support for the invasion of Afghanistan.
The insurgents would have had a lot less native support, and we'd have had a lot more international support. If we'd ponied up the kind of dough there that we are currently hemorrhaging in Iraq, the place would be well on its way to a stable democracy.
Instead, we opened up a two-front war, in far less favorable conditions. The Bush administration vastly underestimated the amount and kind of resistance they'd face. Either that, or they flatout lied to rally support for it. Now that we're there, we have to finish the job, but it would be vastly easier with some international support for the operation, and that ain't gonna happen while Bush is in charge.
Ah, if logic doesn't apply, then God is a ham sandwich. Pickles! Pickles! Vampire frogs, they're everywhere!
(As Ethan Allen said: Those who invalidate reason, ought seriously to consider, whether they argue against reason, with or without reason; if with reason, then they establish the principle, that they are laboring to dethrone; but if they argue without reason, (which, in order to be consistent with themselves, they must do,) they are out of the reach of rational conviction, nor do they deserve a rational argument.)
Let's assume that's true; I am unable to comprehend It's actions. Well... Who, then, deliberately made me too stupid to understand It? Where does the fault lie? :->
In any case, the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is logically inconsistent, so I believe It cannot exist.
We can reason about infinite quantities, no problem. For example, there are infinitely many integers, and infinitely many real numbers. We can't conceive of them all. But it's possible to prove that, even though they are both infinite in number, there are more real numbers than integers.
As I recall, there were problems doing AppleTalk over serial stuff. I have an old Mac IIsi that I might hook up for grins if so. I have an Ethernet card, but it's busy in my SE/30 running my website. :->