Who knows what was on in your area, but I think I saw a spot for "The Interpreter" in every or almost every break last night. In which case it's working as designed. That doesn't sound bad, although your description does. (I don't have a Tivo, just a VCR. Too cheap for Tivo or ReplayTV, too lazy to build a MythTV box.)
You described
WebSphere Studio,
among other systems. It works well if you license it for everyone that could ever work on the code. Very nice if you're deploying to WebSphere. Leave the family and it's just annoying.
I could. The form factor is the thing. I could use a few extra CPUs in a MOSIX cluster for my desktop, but I have no room for a small rack and associated power. This fits. I could make them into little application clusters -- 256 MB of flash is plenty per device. I could wish they had GigE, of course (since they obviously need to connect to NAS for data) or multiple NICs per system but even 100 Mb is sufficient for the intended markets.
I screwed up my moderation, so I'm posting to undo it...
How many FreeBSD developers are part of this hot potato? It doesn't appear to have affected product quality, but too frequent corporate changes do have a negative effect on resources. Funny how some projects can be more stable in part because no two people work on it full-time for the same company.
How about "show me what's new since the last time I was on"? One new 2-column table, or one new column in the users table, or maybe it's already there. You're already sorting by posting time, so no real additional work for the DB servers.
Maybe do it per sid. Not a lot of rows -- clean it out daily, keep only 2-3 days worth of rows... 10**8 rows? That would probably be quite a bit easier to get right. If MySQL can't handle that table, maybe it's time to get a real database.:-) Or stuff it in a cookie.
No need for a full user x comment matrix on the server. More like a regularly pruned set of.newsrcs with every full story display implicitly doing a catchup.
But it's ridiculous to assume it will ever completely replace the commercial software market.
It's not meant to. Watch out for
confusing words. Commercial, free software is a success -- it's what Red Hat and others do. Experienced users may not need it, but it can be nice. I know I'm distinctly less happy working through the various non-commercial installers for Linux and {Open,Net}BSD versus a nice commercial, free installer from Red Hat or someone similar.
On AbiWord specifically, $15 would slow down development due to a lack of users. It's several man-years of development away from being worth that much, given the competition of 1) MS Word being installed on almost all new Windows boxes (and under $100 if it isn't there), 2) WordPad being part of Windows, and 3) KWord being installed on a lot of new Linux desktops. They might get a couple hundred dollars, and lose nearly all users and developers, because if a free GTK+ word processor
project didn't exist, it would have to be invented.
No offense to anyone who works on AbiWord or thinks it does what it needs to do, but the bar is set too high these days.
A word processor, like an OS or a web browser, has become a product you have to give away to get more than a handful of users, and freeing your software is the only way to afford its development if it's in one of those categories. Opera seems to be hanging on as an exception, mostly from a rabid fan base built before browsers fell into that category and a lack of diversity in the free choices.
It would have helped if the advisories had said that ssh1 had an exploitable bug instead of saying that there was a purely theoretical way in which sessions might become transparent. Sometimes you don't go messing with your only means of getting into a given box when you don't think you have a reason. Six months later CERT mentioned ssh1 exploits picking up, but by then a person can lose track of which version is safe.
Yea, I got hit and lost some serious time and money. It was undoubtedly my fault. But it's not entirely black and white. Not all that far off, but not entirely.
Socialism is good, isn't it? Tell us about how little it costs to go to a doctor. (Sure, that's USian flamebait, but you just can't compare prices in a country whose government has declared a thing to be an essential service to prices in a country which hasn't.)
Admittedly, in the early years of deregulation, as the U.S. telco industry is now, the former monopolies are going to screw the consumers even worse than before. Eventually the free market will sort that out, though it may take a couple decades. At that time we'll have services at the market rate. Maybe that far in the future 6 Mb will go for $40 in some country. Today it simply doesn't, not even close, and there's the reason U.S. DSL has almost ceased to exist and cable modems are going the same way.
It would work if the technology didn't move so fast. As it is, with Internet things you can't take 5 years to pay off your capital investment in equipment. Phone switches can stay in service for 10+ years. IP switches/routers are obsoleted in 2 years, well before they're paid off, and that leads to bankruptcy.
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I watched a bit of Nightline last night. Mr. Koppel opened with a short monologue on the issue of "exercising judgement". Paraphrasing and cutting straight to the point -- presumably you can get a transcript of the 10/10 show soon if you really want:
So it's somehow going to matter if ABC broadcasts a tape that's already been broadcast all over the world by satellite and Internet? Regarding the Boca Raton, FL situation, how much scarier would it be if we
didn't report the news to the best of our ability?
I don't worry about obvious censorship. Of course, getting world news means staying away from CNN and with the BBC as much as possible, but that's nothing new.
Depending on your device drivers and possibly applications. I've had NT workstations (4.0, SP4 or higher) go over 49.7 days several times (the key is to not actually use it:-) and while they continue to run, they start acting totally wierd in some ways. Mostly in the GUI, AFAIcouldT, but I didn't wait around for something bigger to show up. All in all it handled it better than the Linux 2.0 workstation across the room I eventually rolled over a couple years ago.
Of course, almost all NT stability depends on your device drivers, and not knowing that is the #1 cause of unstable NT installs done by non-pros.
I think you're actually on very good ground distributing a patch to the client so it can connect to another server. At least, if you can afford to get the case to the Supreme Court, because Sony can buy off any lower court.
Players just need to move to non-UCITA states in that case.
I stand by the right to make a copy of a CD for a friend or two, or in the digital world email them an mp3. So do I have the right to keep a particular album in my stereo, in my house, and invite people in to bring along a blank tape and use my cassette deck to record it? Then run a classified ad in a music magazine saying that I'm doing so? Because that's the best solid world analogy for [the illegal use of] Napster that I can think of.
Maybe I do or should. But can you imagine that going unchallenged? It's right on the border. Done in any commercial way whatsoever its over the line. As described, you tell me. I think I'm a little frightened of the doctrine of first sale going that far.
It's some sort of surprise that the legally and morally right things to do are different?
If you believe in, or accept, copyright as is then you have to accept that the holder has the right to create scarcity as well. There are legitimate economic reasons for doing that, and some businesses do it masterfully. Ask Disney, or maybe George Lucas. If you don't think so, then you must think the system needs some pretty radical changes (beyond changing a few constants).
On the other hand, sometimes works are lost out of stupidity, and everyone later regrets the loss and prays that someone broke the law and has a copy. Ask a fan of Doctor Who about Patrick Troughton's tenure and how much of it they've actually seen.
The morally right thing to do is to digitize the stuff and spread it far and wide. The legally safer way to do that is to do it quietly and have each of your friends give it to a few more rather than distributing 1,000 copies yourself. You'll be vindicated in 100 years. And if the law ever gets back in line with the will of the people, maybe even sooner.
Read Microsoft licenses. All their licenses give you the right to run the then-current version or any prior version of the same product. So it's not like you can't buy a proper license to Word 2.0: buy Word 2000, then get a hold of the binaries by hook or by crook -- you're legal. (Probably better off too -- WinWord was manageable in those days and if Win98 hasn't broken the Win16 ABI it should kick ass today.)
Now, I don't know if anyone other than Microsoft does that. So if you've got a hankering to get WordPerfect 5.1 running on that AT you picked up at a garage sale, maybe you do have to go looking for it. (WP5.1 being one of the best word processors ever, and 12 MHz being plenty to run it beautifully.) And Microsoft's ideas of 'same product' can be hazy -- does Word 2000 license me for Word 4.0 (DOS, circa 1988) which I could in theory want to run on the same XT class laptop I used ten years ago?
This program attempts to trace the route an IP packet would follow to some internet host by launching UDP probe packets with a small ttl (time to live) then listening for an ICMP "time exceeded" reply from a gateway. We start our probes with a ttl of one and increase by one until we get an ICMP "port unreachable" (which means we got to "host") or hit a max (which defaults to 30 hops & can be changed with the -m flag).
Now I don't read raw IP packets every day, but the last time I did I don't remember ICMP being involved in sending a UDP datagram, and ttl-exceeded and port-unreachable are not echo-request or echo-reply. I can't claim I just checked traceroute.c, but I can say I've read many tcpdumps of traceroutes before.
Oh, well, if I'm wrong maybe I'll learn something, and that's never trivial. Otherwise it is nit-picking, and I clearly have nothing better to do, but I hate passing by "Informative" posts that are wrong when I can knowingly try to educate. More so on slow work days.:-)
OTOH, are we both right? I just now remember something about Windows tracert being ICMP based. Well shoot, now I'll have to go actually read the article and see what kind of traces people are picking up. If they are pure ICMP then the great-grandparent of this comment is entirely correct and I'm a sucker and a common, failed karma whore.
Close, but wrong. Go to a Unix box with good manpages and run man traceroute. traceroute recieves ICMP packets, but it does not send them, nor are they ICMP echoes or echo-replies. So this doesn't explain pings at all.
But who cares? Since everyone else is posting their ideas, here's where this stuff falls on my security scale. ping sweep: normal noise. traceroute sweep: not an issue the first time. second traceroute sweep: could be doing OS detection. Slightly interesting.
Every network I've run (where I've actually had a firewall to log such things -- OK, some employers and clients are cheaper and dumber than others) has gotten so much more than that coming in every day that I can't be bothered to wake up for a non-flood ping. I personally haven't met the admin who could be bothered. The eighties are over and the Internet has grown a bit...
I don't know if I'm being more of a karma whore or a Textware Solutions whore, but I don't think that's really a problem. The Palm is small enough that both the keyboard and screen fit in my field of vision. And after a few days and 10,000 words I started being able to tap while only half-looking, whereas after a similar amount of Graffiti I still needed to look at the unit to be successful.
I admit, when I was using the software Fitaly I would just Graffiti a few characters, or especially numbers, if that was all I needed at a given time. But since getting the stamp I haven't looked back. Too bad you can't demo that except for knowing someone who bought it. If you don't like Fitaly after trying it, that's fine, but I think a lot of people are going to love it as much as I do.
I've been using the software fitaly for my Palms for quite a while now, and loved it. Just a couple days ago (I ordered on the last day of the special price offer) I bought the FitalyStamp for my Palm III. The improvement is wonderful. The Palm IIIxe's digitizer seems to be a lot thicker than my old Palm Pro's, and the parallax was killing my accuracy. With the Stamp I'm back up to my proper 40-45 wpm. I type at that speed too, so I personally can write on my Palm as fast as at my desk.
But back to the point -- this isn't about one finger input, it's about pen input. Big difference. It's fast: I just bring my Palm to meetings now and don't bother with paper. I can read my notes, unlike my handwriting, and upload them to my desktop so I can store them with the rest of my electronic notes. I hate paper.
The product really works, and I just wish they could port InstantText to the Palm. Or Linux. It looks cool, but I'm not going to do my writing in Word 97 just to use it.
Your idea of the horizon differs from mine... nonetheless, I think Debian still reigns supreme at invoking major releases from other projects by making their own distro freeze.
Slackware isn't my choice, but AFAIK it hasn't changed much from the days when I did use it (because there were few, but not zero (CT!), other choices 5-6 years ago) and it's very much a DIYers launchpad, so if you want a different kernel, go for it. Besides, slack has the shortest release cycle of all, so 8.0 (I'm guessing here) won't trail Linux 2.4 by more than a couple months.
You can't copy DVDs on your $500 consumer drive, but the equipment that can do it is under $10,000. So the lone consumer can't make a backup, but any organized pirater has no problem.
When it's Maryland's version of the UCITA! The legislature made extensive pro-consumer changes to the recommended act before passing it. This act could go down in history as a good thing for consumer rights in the digital age -- it lays down the new law, and brings the software industry in line with so many other industries essential for modern living.
I think it's a positive sign that Maryland's version of this inevitable legislation will be availible for review by the remaining 48 states before they finish debating the UCITA. Is anyone else of the same mind?
There's one area where you do succeed, though Theo, and even I will admit this: manpages. OpenBSD has the best
manpages of any *BSD or Linux system out there. They're often shorter, but the quality is so much more. Why don't
you drop OpenBSD and just write manpages for FreeBSD? Hey, it's better than being a gopher!
Aw, you ruined a perfectly good flame with this sincere crap... long live the art of flaming! Well, since you brought it up, I'll focus on this point. OpenBSD believes in the Unix tradition of The Manual, formatted by nroff for ASCII and troff for typesetting. If you print out everything in/usr/man you have the complete manual. OpenBSD (I will call it by the name of the whole project, although it does have the strongest leader of all the mainstream free OSs) calls the LDP (with man pages as just one more publication) and the FreeBSD Handbooks fragmentation of documentation.
What do you think? The LDP certainly gets more material written, while OpenBSD truly lives up to its goal of One Manual. FreeBSD seems happy with a middle road -- a few centrally edited handbooks. I don't have an opinion, yet, and if anyone will actually see this article (and this comment) I think it would be an interesting discussion.
In the meantime, keep up the flame quality! That was quite enjoyable, even though I don't agree with you. (Maybe a little.)
P.S. Odd that the slashdot fortune I saw while reading this was:
"Your stupidity, Allen, is simply not up to par." -- Dave Mack (mack@inco.UUCP) "Yours is." --
Allen Gwinn (allen@sulaco.sigma.com), in alt.flame
Imagine if Mandrake suddenly decided to stop using RedHat. Suddenly they would need to do all the work RedHat had been doing for them. Why duplicate effort?
Oh, you mean exactly like they have done for quite a while now, and grown from 3 to 70 people along the way?
Netscape still supplies enough of the manpower for Mozilla that if they snatched it all back to fork Communicator 7.0 as a closed project they wouldn't lose that much. But the balance is changing. It looks as if by the time 6.0 is near enough done for design to begin on 7.0 that this will not be the case. (Ugh, what a sentence.)
As long as Netscape doesn't have all that much to add to Mozilla to make their product, I think things will stay the way they are. But it's a slight risk.
Who knows what was on in your area, but I think I saw a spot for "The Interpreter" in every or almost every break last night. In which case it's working as designed. That doesn't sound bad, although your description does. (I don't have a Tivo, just a VCR. Too cheap for Tivo or ReplayTV, too lazy to build a MythTV box.)
You described WebSphere Studio, among other systems. It works well if you license it for everyone that could ever work on the code. Very nice if you're deploying to WebSphere. Leave the family and it's just annoying.
I could. The form factor is the thing. I could use a few extra CPUs in a MOSIX cluster for my desktop, but I have no room for a small rack and associated power. This fits. I could make them into little application clusters -- 256 MB of flash is plenty per device. I could wish they had GigE, of course (since they obviously need to connect to NAS for data) or multiple NICs per system but even 100 Mb is sufficient for the intended markets.
I screwed up my moderation, so I'm posting to undo it ...
How many FreeBSD developers are part of this hot potato? It doesn't appear to have affected product quality, but too frequent corporate changes do have a negative effect on resources. Funny how some projects can be more stable in part because no two people work on it full-time for the same company.
How about "show me what's new since the last time I was on"? One new 2-column table, or one new column in the users table, or maybe it's already there. You're already sorting by posting time, so no real additional work for the DB servers.
... 10**8 rows? That would probably be quite a bit easier to get right. If MySQL can't handle that table, maybe it's time to get a real database. :-) Or stuff it in a cookie.
.newsrcs with every full story display implicitly doing a catchup.
Maybe do it per sid. Not a lot of rows -- clean it out daily, keep only 2-3 days worth of rows
No need for a full user x comment matrix on the server. More like a regularly pruned set of
Could you hire me to murder my boss? I could do it without fearing prosecution!
We're not talking about a civil proceeding here.
On AbiWord specifically, $15 would slow down development due to a lack of users. It's several man-years of development away from being worth that much, given the competition of 1) MS Word being installed on almost all new Windows boxes (and under $100 if it isn't there), 2) WordPad being part of Windows, and 3) KWord being installed on a lot of new Linux desktops. They might get a couple hundred dollars, and lose nearly all users and developers, because if a free GTK+ word processor project didn't exist, it would have to be invented. No offense to anyone who works on AbiWord or thinks it does what it needs to do, but the bar is set too high these days.
A word processor, like an OS or a web browser, has become a product you have to give away to get more than a handful of users, and freeing your software is the only way to afford its development if it's in one of those categories. Opera seems to be hanging on as an exception, mostly from a rabid fan base built before browsers fell into that category and a lack of diversity in the free choices.
It would have helped if the advisories had said that ssh1 had an exploitable bug instead of saying that there was a purely theoretical way in which sessions might become transparent. Sometimes you don't go messing with your only means of getting into a given box when you don't think you have a reason. Six months later CERT mentioned ssh1 exploits picking up, but by then a person can lose track of which version is safe.
Yea, I got hit and lost some serious time and money. It was undoubtedly my fault. But it's not entirely black and white. Not all that far off, but not entirely.
Socialism is good, isn't it? Tell us about how little it costs to go to a doctor. (Sure, that's USian flamebait, but you just can't compare prices in a country whose government has declared a thing to be an essential service to prices in a country which hasn't.)
Admittedly, in the early years of deregulation, as the U.S. telco industry is now, the former monopolies are going to screw the consumers even worse than before. Eventually the free market will sort that out, though it may take a couple decades. At that time we'll have services at the market rate. Maybe that far in the future 6 Mb will go for $40 in some country. Today it simply doesn't, not even close, and there's the reason U.S. DSL has almost ceased to exist and cable modems are going the same way.
It would work if the technology didn't move so fast. As it is, with Internet things you can't take 5 years to pay off your capital investment in equipment. Phone switches can stay in service for 10+ years. IP switches/routers are obsoleted in 2 years, well before they're paid off, and that leads to bankruptcy.
I watched a bit of Nightline last night. Mr. Koppel opened with a short monologue on the issue of "exercising judgement". Paraphrasing and cutting straight to the point -- presumably you can get a transcript of the 10/10 show soon if you really want:
I don't worry about obvious censorship. Of course, getting world news means staying away from CNN and with the BBC as much as possible, but that's nothing new.
Depending on your device drivers and possibly applications. I've had NT workstations (4.0, SP4 or higher) go over 49.7 days several times (the key is to not actually use it :-) and while they continue to run, they start acting totally wierd in some ways. Mostly in the GUI, AFAIcouldT, but I didn't wait around for something bigger to show up. All in all it handled it better than the Linux 2.0 workstation across the room I eventually rolled over a couple years ago.
Of course, almost all NT stability depends on your device drivers, and not knowing that is the #1 cause of unstable NT installs done by non-pros.
Two words:
Game Genie
I think you're actually on very good ground distributing a patch to the client so it can connect to another server. At least, if you can afford to get the case to the Supreme Court, because Sony can buy off any lower court.
Players just need to move to non-UCITA states in that case.
I stand by the right to make a copy of a CD for a friend or two, or in the digital world email them an mp3. So do I have the right to keep a particular album in my stereo, in my house, and invite people in to bring along a blank tape and use my cassette deck to record it? Then run a classified ad in a music magazine saying that I'm doing so? Because that's the best solid world analogy for [the illegal use of] Napster that I can think of.
Maybe I do or should. But can you imagine that going unchallenged? It's right on the border. Done in any commercial way whatsoever its over the line. As described, you tell me. I think I'm a little frightened of the doctrine of first sale going that far.
Finally, a reporter who understands why people need DSL. :-)
Attempt to dodge off-topicness: 128k is pathetic for DSL, isn't it? I doubt they can win a suit, but good luck to them.
It's some sort of surprise that the legally and morally right things to do are different?
If you believe in, or accept, copyright as is then you have to accept that the holder has the right to create scarcity as well. There are legitimate economic reasons for doing that, and some businesses do it masterfully. Ask Disney, or maybe George Lucas. If you don't think so, then you must think the system needs some pretty radical changes (beyond changing a few constants).
On the other hand, sometimes works are lost out of stupidity, and everyone later regrets the loss and prays that someone broke the law and has a copy. Ask a fan of Doctor Who about Patrick Troughton's tenure and how much of it they've actually seen.
The morally right thing to do is to digitize the stuff and spread it far and wide. The legally safer way to do that is to do it quietly and have each of your friends give it to a few more rather than distributing 1,000 copies yourself. You'll be vindicated in 100 years. And if the law ever gets back in line with the will of the people, maybe even sooner.
Now, I don't know if anyone other than Microsoft does that. So if you've got a hankering to get WordPerfect 5.1 running on that AT you picked up at a garage sale, maybe you do have to go looking for it. (WP5.1 being one of the best word processors ever, and 12 MHz being plenty to run it beautifully.) And Microsoft's ideas of 'same product' can be hazy -- does Word 2000 license me for Word 4.0 (DOS, circa 1988) which I could in theory want to run on the same XT class laptop I used ten years ago?
Oh, well, if I'm wrong maybe I'll learn something, and that's never trivial. Otherwise it is nit-picking, and I clearly have nothing better to do, but I hate passing by "Informative" posts that are wrong when I can knowingly try to educate. More so on slow work days. :-)
OTOH, are we both right? I just now remember something about Windows tracert being ICMP based. Well shoot, now I'll have to go actually read the article and see what kind of traces people are picking up. If they are pure ICMP then the great-grandparent of this comment is entirely correct and I'm a sucker and a common, failed karma whore.
So this is what Signal 11 feels like. <gdr>
Close, but wrong. Go to a Unix box with good manpages and run man traceroute. traceroute recieves ICMP packets, but it does not send them, nor are they ICMP echoes or echo-replies. So this doesn't explain pings at all.
...
But who cares? Since everyone else is posting their ideas, here's where this stuff falls on my security scale. ping sweep: normal noise. traceroute sweep: not an issue the first time. second traceroute sweep: could be doing OS detection. Slightly interesting.
Every network I've run (where I've actually had a firewall to log such things -- OK, some employers and clients are cheaper and dumber than others) has gotten so much more than that coming in every day that I can't be bothered to wake up for a non-flood ping. I personally haven't met the admin who could be bothered. The eighties are over and the Internet has grown a bit
I don't know if I'm being more of a karma whore or a Textware Solutions whore, but I don't think that's really a problem. The Palm is small enough that both the keyboard and screen fit in my field of vision. And after a few days and 10,000 words I started being able to tap while only half-looking, whereas after a similar amount of Graffiti I still needed to look at the unit to be successful.
I admit, when I was using the software Fitaly I would just Graffiti a few characters, or especially numbers, if that was all I needed at a given time. But since getting the stamp I haven't looked back. Too bad you can't demo that except for knowing someone who bought it. If you don't like Fitaly after trying it, that's fine, but I think a lot of people are going to love it as much as I do.
But back to the point -- this isn't about one finger input, it's about pen input. Big difference. It's fast: I just bring my Palm to meetings now and don't bother with paper. I can read my notes, unlike my handwriting, and upload them to my desktop so I can store them with the rest of my electronic notes. I hate paper.
The product really works, and I just wish they could port InstantText to the Palm. Or Linux. It looks cool, but I'm not going to do my writing in Word 97 just to use it.
Your idea of the horizon differs from mine ... nonetheless, I think Debian still reigns supreme at invoking major releases from other projects by making their own distro freeze.
Slackware isn't my choice, but AFAIK it hasn't changed much from the days when I did use it (because there were few, but not zero (CT!), other choices 5-6 years ago) and it's very much a DIYers launchpad, so if you want a different kernel, go for it. Besides, slack has the shortest release cycle of all, so 8.0 (I'm guessing here) won't trail Linux 2.4 by more than a couple months.
You can't copy DVDs on your $500 consumer drive, but the equipment that can do it is under $10,000. So the lone consumer can't make a backup, but any organized pirater has no problem.
When it's Maryland's version of the UCITA! The legislature made extensive pro-consumer changes to the recommended act before passing it. This act could go down in history as a good thing for consumer rights in the digital age -- it lays down the new law, and brings the software industry in line with so many other industries essential for modern living.
I think it's a positive sign that Maryland's version of this inevitable legislation will be availible for review by the remaining 48 states before they finish debating the UCITA. Is anyone else of the same mind?
Aw, you ruined a perfectly good flame with this sincere crap ... long live the art of flaming! Well, since you brought it up, I'll focus on this point. OpenBSD believes in the Unix tradition of The Manual, formatted by nroff for ASCII and troff for typesetting. If you print out everything in /usr/man you have the complete manual. OpenBSD (I will call it by the name of the whole project, although it does have the strongest leader of all the mainstream free OSs) calls the LDP (with man pages as just one more publication) and the FreeBSD Handbooks fragmentation of documentation.
What do you think? The LDP certainly gets more material written, while OpenBSD truly lives up to its goal of One Manual. FreeBSD seems happy with a middle road -- a few centrally edited handbooks. I don't have an opinion, yet, and if anyone will actually see this article (and this comment) I think it would be an interesting discussion.
In the meantime, keep up the flame quality! That was quite enjoyable, even though I don't agree with you. (Maybe a little.)
P.S. Odd that the slashdot fortune I saw while reading this was:
Oh, you mean exactly like they have done for quite a while now, and grown from 3 to 70 people along the way?
Netscape still supplies enough of the manpower for Mozilla that if they snatched it all back to fork Communicator 7.0 as a closed project they wouldn't lose that much. But the balance is changing. It looks as if by the time 6.0 is near enough done for design to begin on 7.0 that this will not be the case. (Ugh, what a sentence.)
As long as Netscape doesn't have all that much to add to Mozilla to make their product, I think things will stay the way they are. But it's a slight risk.